Wtf Is 666

[Jesus-made-me-do-it]

You know how 666 is the evil numbers and all that. Where did this come from? It makes no sence, there just numbers. I was told they were the number of demons in the bible, but theres only 612 in the bible.

Any help?

[Altarus]

Book of Revelation 13:18: "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

Six hundred threescore and six = 666.

So it's the number of the beast.

[SolInvictus]

the topic starter is actually right, a more recent translation of that passage from an older scripture states that the number of the beast is in fact 612 and not 666.

[Peter-II]

At 1/19/07 03:02 PM, SolInvictus wrote: the topic starter is actually right, a more recent translation of that passage from an older scripture states that the number of the beast is in fact 612 and not 666.

It's actually 616, if memory serves.

[SolInvictus]

At 1/19/07 03:52 PM, Peter-II wrote: It's actually 616, if memory serves.

i did a quick search and i couldn't find the original article but i found a lot of people unsure as to what it was; "i think it was like 612 or 6 something". bah not sure how it really matters.

[Altarus]

At 1/19/07 03:02 PM, SolInvictus wrote: the topic starter is actually right, a more recent translation of that passage from an older scripture states that the number of the beast is in fact 612 and not 666.

Church leaders was aware of this other number even before that transcript was found. As far as I know, they preferred 666 because it was more widespread and was verified by other non-Biblical writings. They regarded the number 616 as a scribal error (there is also 665 which some people claim is the true number of the beast). Anyways, point is, it is impossible to know which is correct, especially since there are so incredibly few early manuscripts.

[going4broke]

6 is the number of man
3 (the number of times 6 appears) is the number of divinity

[cellardoor6]

I wrote a report about this in high school. Everyone listen to me and learn something interesting:

At 1/19/07 09:33 PM, going4broke wrote: 6 is the number of man
3 (the number of times 6 appears) is the number of divinity

Therefore the 'beast' will be a man, a man that is worshipped as a divine being. Sounds like this beast will be the Antichrist.

Also, in the Book of Revelation, the beast appears during the 'sixth seal' or the commencement of the 6th millennium of 7 millenniums of human existence on Earth, after that God prevails and we reign in heaven and so forth.

Now bare with me, this may be hard to understand.

There are something called Chakras. Supposedly they are basically 7 energy fields inside of the human body: 1 at the pubic area, stomach, heart, throat, mouth, forehead and crown of head. There are also 7 smaller Chakras inside of the human right hand according to some eastern faiths.

Each Chakra supposedly represents different aspects of human existence and human awareness and intelligence, and some suggest that each Chakra represents a thousand year period of human existence, as if our bodies are blueprints for what will happen to the human race as a whole.

Since there are 7 Chakras, people believe that each one represents one of 7 seals spoken of in the Bible, the 7 thousand-year periods of human developement until the final completion of time and the conquering of the devil.

Think about this: When Adam and Eve partook of the forbidden fruit, they opened their first seal, or their first Chakra. The First Chakra is the one supposedly located in the genital area. And if you remember the book of Genesis, when Adam and Eve partook of the fruit, they became aware and ashamed of their nakedness, and became sexual and carnal. Thus somewhat validating the Chakra concept because the 1st chakra represents sexual desire, sense of self-security and so forth.

Now, in the Book of Revelation it describes an event in which the beast, the man with the number of 666 (who I believe to be the Antichrist) makes all men, women and children receive a mark on their forehead and on their right hand as a symbole of their both spiritual and physical submission and worship. And let me remind you this is taking place in the sixth seal or sixth millenium.

It then goes on to say that all people who receive the mark bind themselves to punishment that the devil will face at the end of time.

Therefore the number of the beast 666, is a spiritual, symbolic, emodiment and sign of submission to the beast by human kind. 6 is a number that represents man, 6 for the 6th chakra and seal on the forehead, and 6 for the chakra on the right hand.

Many humans receive the mark of the beast, and in doing so 'seal' their fate to the devil and no longer progress to the 7th seal, or 7th millennium like humans who deny the beast do.

Because in Revelation it goes on to say that those who receive the mark will be destroyed, therefore they and their lineage won't progress to the 7th millennium, which is the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth in which all men are, resurrected made immortal. The 7th seal represents the final chapter of human development, a period where those who followed the Anti-christ will miss out on.

Kind of an abstract concept but my paper was published in the newspaper.

[SmilezRoyale]

At 1/19/07 03:50 PM, Mercator wrote:

At 1/19/07 03:02 PM, SolInvictus wrote: the topic starter is actually right, a more recent translation of that passage from an older scripture states that the number of the beast is in fact 612 and not 666.

WTF does the beast need a number anyways?? Is he waiting in line for something??

It's from the book of revelation, it states that satan will summon a beast which will enslave the earth, those who submit to the beast are branded with a number to indentify themselfs as slaves of satan. And as i recall, the number is 666.

i DONT know what the 6's are for, but i know that the 3 numbers togeather are meant to mock the holy trinity.

The book of revelation like many bible stories are metaphors for predictions or sometimes messages written in code form to protect the writers from persecution from the different officals at the time. You would get in trouble for calling the king evil, but you wouldn't get in trouble if you changed real life characters into fake characters to express the same opinion without the officals knowing.

Satan is a dogma, anything you hear about him is rubbish.

[Memorize]

Meh, I always considered Revalation as just symbolic and metaphorical anyway. Really just because it was a vision and when they talk of the rider on the white horse (talking about the seals), people call him the anti-christ, yet if I open up any bible I read it was just Christ, Jesus Christ.

[fahrenheit]

Its all really perspective, some people believe the more accurate number of the beast is 616 (as previously stated). Which in Hebrew is the numerological name for Nero. A notorious christian killer.
Some believe John simply wrote this when he was fleeing from Romes oppresion, hoping to try and warn future christians about the beast (rome).

[SmilezRoyale]

At 1/19/07 10:53 PM, Zac-Donald wrote:

At 1/19/07 10:20 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

At 1/19/07 03:50 PM, Mercator wrote:

At 1/19/07 03:02 PM, SolInvictus wrote: the topic starter is actually right, a more recent translation of that passage from an older scripture states that the number of the beast is in fact 612 and not 666.

WTF does the beast need a number anyways?? Is he waiting in line for something??

It's from the book of revelation, it states that satan will summon a beast which will enslave the earth, those who submit to the beast are branded with a number to indentify themselfs as slaves of satan. And as i recall, the number is 666.

i DONT know what the 6's are for, but i know that the 3 numbers togeather are meant to mock the holy trinity.

Just because there is 3 6' doesn't mean it mocks the trinity,
There is no reason to draw such conclusions. In the bible it states the number once, and with no ties to the trinty, you may believe its mocking, but as I see it there is no reason to.

That's not MY theory, that's the beleif of preists and theologians, that the 3 sixes mock the holy trinity. [Since satan is the 'villan' of the bible, he has good reason to mock the 'good guys' of the bible]

[packow]

At 1/19/07 03:02 PM, SolInvictus wrote: the topic starter is actually right, a more recent translation of that passage from an older scripture states that the number of the beast is in fact 612 and not 666.

Interesting, considering there are 613 commandments, according to the old testament..

And anyone who says "NO YOU IDIOT THERE ARE TEN" does not deserve to debate the topic.

[Dealy-rizazamatizazz]

As much as i want to believe in my heart the bibles may contain some truth and that there was a god, my brain says, why has the bible changed so many times to fit modern day? The bible used to state the world is flat, the sun revolves around it, and we are the center of the universe because we're gods favorite. All proven wrong sadly. Including the part about gods favorite..he hates us but jesus is to prepare us for his greatness and we are to ask for forgiveness and be baptised for falling short of the grace of god. But even scientists will tell you that the probability of Earth existing..with people and what have you is a numerical impossibility, therfore, something helped..or was it just a matter of time, anyway, three 6's is the least of our worries, personaly i like 999, its bigger.

[MilestoneRazor]

At 1/19/07 11:45 PM, chocolate-penguin wrote:

At 1/19/07 03:52 PM, Peter-II wrote:

At 1/19/07 03:02 PM, SolInvictus wrote: the topic starter is actually right, a more recent translation of that passage from an older scripture states that the number of the beast is in fact 612 and not 666.

It's actually 616, if memory serves.

Fucking Bible, there's enough confusing books out there, and now we have to remember 3 numbers if we don't want our heads chopped off and fed to sodomizing demons in hell.

lolol

The general rule is if you don't have anything useful for the thread, don't post it.

If the number of the beast is 612 or 616, then why would the writer(s) of the bible state the number of the beast as six hundred threescore and six, because if there were 613 commandments in the old testament, and some believe the number of the beast is 612 or 616, and it is written as 666, maybe someone wanted it to be more memorable, or there's the unknown factor.

[D2Kvirus]

God Bless Wikipedia:

Some interpreted to relate the nature of human being as Homo sapiens itself, not as any individual. When the Greek word for "human being", áíèñùðïò, is translitterated into Hebrew gematric system, the resulting sum becomes 666. It is also assumed the '6' (smallest complete number) represents human being itself, and 6 tripled represent mind, body and soul; 7 is the number of God and 777 the Holy Trinity. 666 could also be titled as The Unholy Trinity representing The Devil, The Antichrist and The False Prophet.

[Humbucker740]

At 1/19/07 10:16 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

:stuff

Your paper thing would be good if it were right.

The REAL number of the beast is 616..
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/11134/beasts-
real-mark-devalued-to-616

[DJ-Jerakai]

At 1/19/07 04:06 PM, Altarus wrote:

Church leaders was aware of this other number even before that transcript was found. As far as I know, they preferred 666 because it was more widespread and was verified by other non-Biblical writings. They regarded the number 616 as a scribal error (there is also 665 which some people claim is the true number of the beast). Anyways, point is, it is impossible to know which is correct, especially since there are so incredibly few early manuscripts.

So they let people 'think' it was 666 when they knew that it wasn't.
Hmmmmmm.

"Not" spreading untruths again I see.

[Altarus]

At 1/21/07 12:36 AM, DJ-Jerakai wrote: So they let people 'think' it was 666 when they knew that it wasn't.
Hmmmmmm.

"Not" spreading untruths again I see.

That's not what I said. They were confronted with the discrepancy, but most found 666 to be more credible as the true number. The number 616 could easily have been a scribal error.

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

At 1/20/07 11:10 AM, D2KVirus wrote: God Bless Wikipedia:

Some interpreted to relate the nature of human being as Homo sapiens itself, not as any individual. When the Greek word for "human being", áíèñùðïò, is translitterated into Hebrew gematric system, the resulting sum becomes 666. It is also assumed the '6' (smallest complete number) represents human being itself, and 6 tripled represent mind, body and soul; 7 is the number of God and 777 the Holy Trinity. 666 could also be titled as The Unholy Trinity representing The Devil, The Antichrist and The False Prophet.

I don't think it would mean the last, since humanity has itself to blame for it's sins.
The false profet might be Muhammed, who would know.

[Dash-02]

666 marks the number of the beast look it up in Wikipedia I'm sure they will answer all your questions.

[Neoptolemus]

At 1/19/07 10:44 PM, fahrenheit wrote: Its all really perspective, some people believe the more accurate number of the beast is 616 (as previously stated). Which in Hebrew is the numerological name for Nero. A notorious christian killer.

Although, 666 is the numerological name for Nero when you use the less frquent form of his name "Neron".

Some believe John simply wrote this when he was fleeing from Romes oppresion, hoping to try and warn future christians about the beast (rome).

Also, 666 is also the numerological equivical of "Latin speaking man". Most likely John wrote it as a condemnation of Rome.

[supkill47]

One of the interpretation of this number(let assume it is 666) goes like this: 3 is the perfect number, the holy trinity, 6 is the imperfect number (for some unknow reason to me) so it is the perfect imperfect. If you looks at this book as a historical book, you see that this whole passage ios about rome. At this time the perfect of the imperfect could be considered as Nero, the emperor of Rome. If I remeber well, this number appear on the head of a multiple headed beast. The number of head representing the number of legion that rome possessed at this time.

[Humbucker740]

At 1/23/07 09:03 PM, supkill47 wrote: One of the interpretation of this number(let assume it is 666) goes like this: 3 is the perfect number, the holy trinity, 6 is the imperfect number (for some unknow reason to me) so it is the perfect imperfect

Don't make stuff up plz. You can't just come in here blurting stuff and expect me to believe you.

. If you looks at this book as a historical book, you see that this whole passage ios about rome.
At this time the perfect of the imperfect could be considered as Nero, the emperor of Rome.

Says who? You? You are so bad at making up numerology.

If I remeber well, this number appear on the head of a multiple headed beast. The number of head representing the number of legion that rome possessed at this time.

Rome had 666 legions? Now you're just full of it.

http://infotech.fanshawec.on.ca/faculty/newel l/legion.htm

Nero had 28 legions under him.

[Tankdown]

To be honest I care more about where the number 13 come from.

[D2Kvirus]

Apparently, the original Nuumber of the Beast was 616, but apparently it didn't have a good ring to it and was changed.
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/11134/beasts-
real-mark-devalued-to-616

[Brick-top]

At 1/23/07 09:13 PM, Tankdown wrote: To be honest I care more about where the number 13 come from.

Don’t 13 come from when the 13th decuple of Jesus betrayed him and caused his execution?

So if you’re a Muslim the number 13 shouldn’t bother you. lol.

[Tankdown]

I heard that it has come before that. But lets not get off topic.

[Altarus]

At 1/24/07 10:06 AM, D2KVirus wrote: Apparently, the original Nuumber of the Beast was 616, but apparently it didn't have a good ring to it and was changed.
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/11134/beasts-
real-mark-devalued-to-616

A single manuscript with the number 616 is not conclusive. In fact, secondary writings that pre-date that manuscript say that the number is 666.

[mrpiex]

Dude, 666 is the number of the beast. Im probably like the 50th poster to say that. I may hate religion and all that it stands for, but I know my enemy well. That is ho w I and france differ.
My Hit list
1.Religion
2.France
3.Northern ireland (the british side)
4.Hippies
5.Yoh mamma