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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 12:41 AM Reply

At 1/19/07 10:29 PM, Bezman wrote:
At 1/19/07 08:12 AM, EviLDoG wrote:
At 1/19/07 04:34 AM, McPaper wrote: Im sure you don't know what newgrounds use to stand for in its underground days. It would make stuff like this most of the time and it would get in even more trouble.
Never this serious... children being murdered is a taboo subject anywhere you go. You rearely see it in horror movies and therefore where you play a game where you are killing children, that is a bit sick.

Newgrounds was mainly controversial for killing adult celebrities and infringing copyrights. Also club a seal got quite a few people pissed off.
Erm... have you played "Pico's School"? You really should. Best Flash 3 game ever.

It may have been the first game based on the Culombine massacre. I dunno.

Probably or maybe it wasn't the game was released in the same year as columbine (1999) and i can't find out any information on the month it was released, so it could've been made before it (and i think it was but don't quote me on this).

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 12:42 AM Reply

At 1/19/07 05:50 PM, Pyro wrote:
At 1/19/07 05:21 PM, FatherTime89 wrote: stuff
The difference with all of those things are that they were good entertainment. SCMRPG! would be absolute crap if the story was different. What was the point of making it into a game if the actual GAMEPLAY sucked?

As I said before, I have not one ounce of sorrow or defense for the dumbass kids who shot up their school, but that alone would not make me hate the game.

Controversy + Crap content = Shit

Controversy + Entertainment = Gold

I aggree with you but whether the gameplay is good is a matter of opinion and we both know that that wasn't the reason it was kicked off slamdance.

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 07:10 AM Reply

that'srealy a shame i saw ypur game play and this was preaty awsome


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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 08:39 AM Reply

At 1/18/07 04:16 PM, Greenskullkid wrote: Aw, that sucks.. for you :(
Six days of work? Layout in those days maybe?!
Good news mostly.

ifthe layout wasa joke we will all kill you and wade will take over. got it?


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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 10:55 AM Reply

At 1/20/07 12:42 AM, FatherTime89 wrote:
I aggree with you but whether the gameplay is good is a matter of opinion and we both know that that wasn't the reason it was kicked off slamdance.

The game play for the game was amazing. I downloaded it and played it. For being made in RPG Maker 2000, it's really well done. It's appearent that Danny Ledonne obviously word hard on it and I'm still pissed that they ripped it. I'm also kinda mad that the other contestants are staying.

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 11:06 AM Reply

are you guys gonna be near boston, MA anytime soon?

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 12:07 PM Reply

At 1/20/07 10:55 AM, Radioactive24 wrote:
At 1/20/07 12:42 AM, FatherTime89 wrote:
I aggree with you but whether the gameplay is good is a matter of opinion and we both know that that wasn't the reason it was kicked off slamdance.
The game play for the game was amazing. I downloaded it and played it. For being made in RPG Maker 2000, it's really well done. It's appearent that Danny Ledonne obviously word hard on it and I'm still pissed that they ripped it. I'm also kinda mad that the other contestants are staying.

i meant i agreed that bad games with controversy aren't worth playing, just because of the controversy. I haven't actually played SCMRPG, but I will soon.

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 12:36 PM Reply

castle crashers looks awesome! can't wait for it!


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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 06:20 PM Reply

that was such a lame move on Slamdance's part.

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 06:28 PM Reply

Dang! I whas hoping to see some sweet material there.


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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 07:08 PM Reply

Huh? I still do not understand why you withdrew. Specify, what kind of controversy.

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 08:31 PM Reply

At 1/20/07 12:41 AM, FatherTime89 wrote:
Erm... have you played "Pico's School"? You really should. Best Flash 3 game ever.

It may have been the first game based on the Culombine massacre. I dunno.

Yeah, forgot about that :\, thing is, there was more controversy over the jacket that the assasin wore on the assasin page than the pico game

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 08:32 PM Reply

Who said update? Nobody said update? What update? Site update? What's that? I never said anything about updating the site. No no no, I never even said it was late either. Ok, you know that one thing that was supposed to be done a LONG time ago, something that was like a site update? Something about updating the site layout, I could have sworn you said update!

Also, late.


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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 09:21 PM Reply

if every one was fat there would be no fat people

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 20th, 2007 @ 09:24 PM Reply

Indeed

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 21st, 2007 @ 03:40 AM Reply

At 1/18/07 04:22 PM, MadCow wrote: Anyways, Tom, could you elaborate on the whole contriversy thing? I didn't really understand what it was from what I read on the site you linked... Is it something about censoring games, or not allowing violent games to be submitted or something?

From what I heard, several people are walking out of Slamdance.

From what I understand: You guys are against a competition that withdrew a game about the Columbine Massacre? Wtf is wrong with you retards? That's the most fucked up shit I've ever heard. I'm actually familiar with that game, but that doesn't make it right.

Censorship is complete bullshit. I can care less if you're trying to "shield" children or sensitive people, but it should never come at the cost of free speech.

Slamdance was probably trying to NOT get a lot of negativity by taking that game out of the competition. You know, since it would offend the 98.6% of people that aren't sick, internet freaks.

Censorship should be at the will of the individual.


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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 21st, 2007 @ 04:09 AM Reply

to bad tom

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 21st, 2007 @ 05:58 AM Reply

Please don't let this become like the redesign.


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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 21st, 2007 @ 01:59 PM Reply

Groovy.


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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 21st, 2007 @ 10:13 PM Reply

to bad about all the controversey such a shame Tom . ah well there's always other festivals.

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 21st, 2007 @ 10:19 PM Reply

SCMRPG is awsome

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 21st, 2007 @ 10:50 PM Reply

i agree

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 22nd, 2007 @ 12:55 AM Reply

Oh bloody hell.

From what I've seen of SCMRPG is that it's not suppose to be fun.

It's suppose to get you into the mind of two fucked up little killers. It makes you feel revolted at the actions they took. It scares you that there are people who think that way.

Its just that suddenly because it's in an interactive media, it's suppose to be fun, or non-political? Hell no.

It was never made to glorify the two fuckers. It shows their mindset, and their actions, as being completely insane.

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 22nd, 2007 @ 07:12 AM Reply

I'm sorry to see you guys pull out but after reading the information behind the whole mess I completely understand why you did. I'm glad that some people are willing to stand up for their principles. I just wish the rest of the developers would grow a pair and do the same thing. It's too bad too cause your game was by far the best there as far as im concerned. Keep up the good work guys.

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 22nd, 2007 @ 01:22 PM Reply

At 1/22/07 12:55 AM, Foxieboy wrote: Oh bloody hell.

From what I've seen of SCMRPG is that it's not suppose to be fun.

It's suppose to get you into the mind of two fucked up little killers. It makes you feel revolted at the actions they took. It scares you that there are people who think that way.

Its just that suddenly because it's in an interactive media, it's suppose to be fun, or non-political? Hell no.

so they can allow several films on the subject.. but not a single game? games are only allowed to have limited subject matter? NO.

you have not played the game. how can you make statements of what the game is about? that's like jack thompson saying that bully is a columbine simulator without ever seeing more than a few screenshots.

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 22nd, 2007 @ 01:53 PM Reply

I havent seen any of the movies made about the subject, but it all depends on what angle and what "glorification" is made with it. If the game would "glorify" being those two kids, then its kindof... a sensitive subject definitley. Honestly, even if you are controlling a "mindless schoolkid with a mission to kill" it´s controversial, and in most peoples opinon slightly wrong, i would guess.
But that´s exactly what the deal is with ceveral shooters out there...

Many years ago, watching an action movie that, with today standards would be concidered weak and un-raw, was "giving kids bad ideas and influences etc etc etc".
A few years back, the violent videogames were to blame, especially since they were so realistic and so on. The very same videogames that today are graphically inferior to what you see on the VGshelfs. Of course, technology have leaped in a sick way last 20 years, but still.

My point is, that there are some products that the world may not be "ready" for yet. I personally think that "if this goes, everything goes", but the fact that if the "world isn´t ready" will mean that it might be a financial (and moral:) threat to the ones who back it up. In a few years, im sure we all will play the game(or some similiar game), laugh and think that it´s so innocent, just like SMB, or MegaMan is today :)


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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 22nd, 2007 @ 02:14 PM Reply

Aww,man.,that bites!(even if im not too interested)

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 22nd, 2007 @ 02:17 PM Reply

I understand how Tom feels. I mean what if it was Pico's School, instead of Super Columbine Massacre which got pulled? Anyway, if a game where Christians can send everyone else to hell can be sold in Wal Mart, I don 't see why a Columbine game is unacceptable. Hell, some developers tried to cash in by making an Iraq war simulation, and for some reason, that's not considered exploitive, either.

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 22nd, 2007 @ 02:19 PM Reply

At 1/22/07 01:53 PM, Rucklo wrote: I havent seen any of the movies made about the subject, but it all depends on what angle and what "glorification" is made with it.

http://www.sundancechannel.com/film/?ixFilmID =5898&PHPSESSID=1271c0413b6ccdf82237f9d6df993 5b3

same festival, 4 years prior

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Response to Slamdance Update Jan. 22nd, 2007 @ 04:04 PM Reply

hmm that kinda looked like doublemorale... :/

well time changes... i dont know the true reasons for the game being pulled... but like i said, i personally think it´s a sad thing that it happened.

Like Tom mentioned earlier, this website have taken alot of beating due to flashes being uploaded, but no flashes were removed because they were too violent, or whatever (legal reasons are of course not the same)


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