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At 12/27/07 08:55 PM, iamnecromantic wrote: 1) i don't think god is all knowing, he just knows a hell of a lot more than us.

It's pretty much accepted that he supposedly is, but whatever.

2) if he'd used the actual names instead of the "fables," nobody would get a word of what was in the bible and the Jewish/Cristian/Islamic faiths wouldn't have existed.

What names?

ARE U ALL NUTS
RELIGON AND SCIENCE GO HAND IN HAND
FOR CHRIST SAKE IM RELIGOUS AND IM TRYING TO GET INTO FORENSICS AND U SAY THAT THEY ARE COMPLETE OPISITES U ARE WRONG

BOTH ARE THE WAY OF SAFGRAUDING US FROM THE POINT THAT WE R GOING TO DIE
BOTH DESIGNED TO GLORIFIY THAT TO STOP US FROM BEING SCARED WHATS TO F*CKING FEAR

so simply its wrong to think its a war bible prechers and mad scientists give it a thought.

At 12/28/07 12:42 AM, mash4077th wrote: RELIGON AND SCIENCE GO HAND IN HAND

Nope.
No respectable scientists has ever proposed a thory on the grounds that it can't be disproven.

FOR CHRIST SAKE IM RELIGOUS AND IM TRYING TO GET INTO FORENSICS

Hope nobody gets killed in your town then.

BOTH ARE THE WAY OF SAFGRAUDING US FROM THE POINT THAT WE R GOING TO DIE

No. Science is about finding out what the fuck everything is made of, what makes it work etc., in want of a better definition that is.

BOTH DESIGNED TO GLORIFIY THAT TO STOP US FROM BEING SCARED WHATS TO F*CKING FEAR

Believe what I say or you'll suffer for all eternity.
Yeah, I bet that stops people being scared.

so simply its wrong to think its a war bible prechers and mad scientists give it a thought.

No one says it's a war.

Please get out of this forum, as you lack the intelligence to post in an orderly and sensible manner.

At 12/28/07 01:09 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 12/28/07 12:42 AM, mash4077th wrote: RELIGON AND SCIENCE GO HAND IN HAND

Nope.
No respectable scientists has ever proposed a thory on the grounds that it can't be disproven.

well, you've got me there. there are many respectable scientists who believe in god. especially Isaac newton who, while he never gave any specific proof, did explicitly say that while his equations explained that the universe moved like clockwork, it didn't explain who winds the clock. and before you say it, i do know that he was also into witchcraft and alchemy.

Please get out of this forum, as you lack the intelligence to post in an orderly and sensible manner.

thank you for pointing that out. people can be assholes on this thread, but at least sadisticmonkey, poxpower and bookman60 are respectful and intelligent (sorry if I left anyone out).

At 12/28/07 01:52 AM, iamnecromantic wrote:
well, you've got me there. there are many respectable scientists who believe in god.

A lot of scientists throughout history who were religious were often only religious because of the area and time that they grew up in, where believing in X religion was just the done thing.
Not that I can speak for all of such scientists.

At 12/28/07 01:52 AM, iamnecromantic wrote:

At 12/28/07 01:09 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 12/28/07 12:42 AM, mash4077th wrote: RELIGON AND SCIENCE GO HAND IN HAND

Nope.
No respectable scientists has ever proposed a thory on the grounds that it can't be disproven.

well, you've got me there. there are many respectable scientists who believe in god. especially Isaac newton who, while he never gave any specific proof, did explicitly say that while his equations explained that the universe moved like clockwork, it didn't explain who winds the clock. and before you say it, i do know that he was also into witchcraft and alchemy.

Please get out of this forum, as you lack the intelligence to post in an orderly and sensible manner.

thank you for pointing that out. people can be assholes on this thread, but at least sadisticmonkey, poxpower and bookman60 are respectful and intelligent (sorry if I left anyone out)

you want intilegence both of u well listen to my intllegent EXTENDED version
the reason for realigon was to help people relisae the fact of deathh and later as a distraction this means that the main reason for the religoins founding is on fear as time progress new thorys begin to obtain infulence then science enters the picture basicly a total distraction from death and also as a way of progressing so as time contines the two re closly bonded as togher a perfect solotion yet the ppl who belive one has more influence then the other is wrong due to the fact that the quest for perfection bioth are needed as one without the other is a total misconsuption the actal brain acculatin of intellence would etheir lack tradionale vaules no protection or have no advancement stuck in a rut this is all real information ive goooooooooooot lots more where that cme fromm and just so u know iim only 15 annd i know how perfection is found bet that mates

alsoi no longer fear deathy as we are alredyy so close to it we have ressurections daily(RESUSITATIONS) near death experiacnes all say the same thing theres somthing else there science cant explain it but religon can we could not have proved that without science get round this mind bender u may have the intelegturall interitie of a chimp monk or 6-7 year old a very dmp one yes im insalting ur intelligacne true awswers nowssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!Q!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!Q!Q!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!1 or for a more privat disscusion email me about it at ateam@SKY.COM
see u soon bye for now !! bye for noww !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not even going to attempt to translate that into English.

At 12/28/07 02:45 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: I'm not even going to attempt to translate that into English.

well i will then

you want intilegence both of u well listen to my intllegent EXTENDED version

the reason for realigon was to help people relisae the fact of deathh and later as a distraction this means that the main reason for the religoins founding is on fear as time progress new thorys begin to obtain infulence
then science enters the picture basicly a total distraction from death and also as a way of progressing so as time contines the two re closly bonded as togher a perfect solotion yet the ppl

who belive one has more influence then the other is wrong due to the fact that the quest for perfection bioth are needed as one without the other is a total misconsuption

the actal brain acculatin of intellence would etheir lack tradionale vaules no protection or have no advancement stuck in a rut this is all real information ive goooooooooooot lots more where that cme fromm and just so u know iim only 15 annd i know how perfection is found bet that mates

alsoi no longer fear death as we are alredyy so close to it we have ressurections daily(RESUSITATIONS) near death experiacnes all say the same thing theres somthing else there science cant explain it but religon can we could not have proved that without science get round this mind bender u may have the intelegturall interitie of a chimp monk or 6-7 year old a very dmp one yes im insalting ur intelligacne true awswers nowssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!Q!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!Q!Q!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!1 or for a more privat disscusion email me about it at ateam@SKY.COM
see u soon bye for now !! bye for noww !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At 12/27/07 03:14 PM, Drakim wrote: Sigh, what happened here? This topic was slowly slowly picking up on it's value, but then it just plunged right down again.

To think it was only the silence before the shitstorm of stupid, courtesy of fallout kid. It hurts my brain to attempt reading it.

At 12/28/07 02:52 AM, mash4077th wrote:

At 12/28/07 02:45 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: I'm not even going to attempt to translate that into English.

well i will then

;
Translating something from gibberish into grunting still didn't help.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
see u soon bye for now !! bye for noww !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;
You may also look into learning what punctuation is, & how to use it to break up random blocks of text . You may even try something like putting a question mark after a question , just ot make it easier for those of us who would recognize that & then possibly choose to respond.

Oh yes , What is up with the posts that are all Caps ?<======= (look see a question mark , because I asked you a direct question)
It comes across here as if your yelling , ALL THE TIME , & that makes it annoying .

At 12/28/07 02:52 AM, mash4077th wrote:

At 12/28/07 02:45 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: I'm not even going to attempt to translate that into English.

well i will then

you want intilegence both of u well listen to my intllegent EXTENDED version

we're calling you an idiot because you don't bother to go back and spell check, nor do you have the courtesy to post in a way that people understand.

the reason for realigon was to help people relisae the fact of deathh and later as a distraction this means that the main reason for the religoins founding is on fear as time progress new thorys begin to obtain infulence

i'm not sure I understood a word of that, but religion isn't based on death or fear. any ruler that did that is something usually referred to as a tyrant

then science enters the picture basicly a total distraction from death and also as a way of progressing so as time contines the two re closly bonded as togher a perfect solotion yet the ppl

who belive one has more influence then the other is wrong due to the fact that the quest for perfection bioth are needed as one without the other is a total misconsuption

when was anything about perfection?

the actal brain acculatin of intellence would etheir lack tradionale vaules no protection or have no advancement stuck in a rut this is all real information ive goooooooooooot lots more where that cme fromm and just so u know iim only 15 annd i know how perfection is found bet that mates

i have no idea

alsoi no longer fear death as we are alredyy so close to it we have ressurections daily(RESUSITATIONS) near death experiacnes all say the same thing theres somthing else there science cant explain it but religon can we could not have proved that without science

actually, near death experiences are due to lack of activity in the brain. similar things are seen by people on LSD.

getting back to the fact that you're a moron

get round this mind bender u may have the intelegturall interitie of a chimp monk or 6-7 year old a very dmp one yes im insalting ur intelligacne true awswers nowssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!Q!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!Q!Q!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!!!Q!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!1 or for a more privat disscusion email me about it at ateam@SKY.COM
see u soon bye for now !! bye for noww !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i rest my case.

I gave up trying to decipher his ramblings... Anybody know what he's trying to say? Or a better question, does anyone care?

At 12/27/07 03:14 PM, Drakim wrote: Sigh, what happened here? This topic was slowly slowly picking up on it's value, but then it just plunged right down again.

The problem, I feel, is that people read the first post then rush and post a reply containing bullshit that has already been rebutted on every single page.

At 12/29/07 12:54 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 12/27/07 03:14 PM, Drakim wrote: Sigh, what happened here? This topic was slowly slowly picking up on it's value, but then it just plunged right down again.

The problem, I feel, is that people read the first post then rush and post a reply containing bullshit that has already been rebutted on every single page.

Then I say, one big topic like this simply does not work. It's too messy and too much chaos. We seem to get much better results from smaller topics with different aspects of "Science VS Religion" instead of one big.

At 12/29/07 09:57 AM, Drakim wrote: Then I say, one big topic like this simply does not work. It's too messy and too much chaos. We seem to get much better results from smaller topics with different aspects of "Science VS Religion" instead of one big.

Don't worry, I fully agree.

mods would lock it and say "there's already a science vs religion thread, post it there."

Does anyone else think that what god did to jesus would constitute child abuse in most places. You know sending your child somewhere you know he was gonna die. Where is the outrage

Well if you believe in the trinity, it would be more like suicide.

At 12/30/07 01:35 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Well if you believe in the trinity, it would be more like suicide.

Isn't that a deadly sin?

At 12/30/07 02:52 AM, poxpower wrote:

At 12/30/07 01:35 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Well if you believe in the trinity, it would be more like suicide.

Isn't that a deadly sin?

The rules god imposes on humans he obviously doesn't hold himself to.

thall shalt not murder anyone?

At 12/30/07 03:38 AM, Musician wrote:

At 12/30/07 02:52 AM, poxpower wrote:

thall shalt not murder anyone?

They just happened to be there when he flooded the earth. Like, yeah you can drop a nuclear bomb on a city, but why did all those people get in the way?
TOTALLY

At 12/30/07 03:38 AM, Musician wrote:
The rules god imposes on humans he obviously doesn't hold himself to.

thall shalt not murder anyone?

Yeah, THE ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT anyone?

At 12/30/07 04:40 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Yeah, THE ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT anyone?

Moderates ignore the old testament, despite that none of it makes sense without it

The bible is the truth. Science books should be replaced with bibles.

lol, seriously WHO KILLS MORE IN THE BIBLE?

Satan: 10 people

God: about 1,844,732 people

God kills to make an example out of someone.

Is that not how we learn?

If we do this, that is what will happen.

At 12/30/07 01:51 PM, XeroXTC wrote: God kills to make an example out of someone.

Is that not how we learn?

My parents were bigger fans of lecturing than corporal punishment.

I would advise the same technique for your own kids.

There is a big issue over the petty things God kills people over, or instructs people to kill other people over (especially Moses, the asshole)

It might have worked for your parents.

But pain does allow behavior modification.

Don't do that. *spank*

At 12/30/07 01:51 PM, XeroXTC wrote: God kills to make an example out of someone.

Is that not how we learn?

"You do not follow my religion. I will now show you the wrath of god for your sinful ways." *Boom*

Yeah sounds effective.

I know doesn't it. =]