Firewire

[Wavedude]

Ok, I have a firewire card, but something I didnt know is that you can connect your audio to it!

Using an and my mixer and card:
How could I have the mixer plugged into the firewire card?

[mhb]

At 1/8/07 06:53 PM, Wavedude wrote: Ok, I have a firewire card, but something I didnt know is that you can connect your audio to it!

Using an and my mixer and card:
How could I have the mixer plugged into the firewire card?

i'm assuming that you wanna hook your instruments to your mixer and have the mixer hooked into the firewire, correct?

you're mixer must have a firewire out for that to be possible.

[Wavedude]

At 1/8/07 07:23 PM, mhb wrote:
i'm assuming that you wanna hook your instruments to your mixer and have the mixer hooked into the firewire, correct?

you're mixer must have a firewire out for that to be possible.

It only has a usb out to go into computers. But it has 1/4" outputs. Would hooking the mixer into a interface using firewire help?

[mhb]

At 1/8/07 09:27 PM, Wavedude wrote:

At 1/8/07 07:23 PM, mhb wrote:
i'm assuming that you wanna hook your instruments to your mixer and have the mixer hooked into the firewire, correct?

you're mixer must have a firewire out for that to be possible.

It only has a usb out to go into computers. But it has 1/4" outputs. Would hooking the mixer into a interface using firewire help?

that should work. i would suggest an interface that utilizies an usb in and a firewire out. they're not cheap but you'd have the lowest possible latency from your mixer ot your computer that way.

[Wavedude]

At 1/8/07 09:36 PM, mhb wrote:
that should work. i would suggest an interface that utilizies an usb in and a firewire out. they're not cheap but you'd have the lowest possible latency from your mixer ot your computer that way.

Why USB and Firewire? When all I need is a firewire output?

[mhb]

At 1/8/07 09:43 PM, Wavedude wrote:

At 1/8/07 09:36 PM, mhb wrote:
that should work. i would suggest an interface that utilizies an usb in and a firewire out. they're not cheap but you'd have the lowest possible latency from your mixer ot your computer that way.

Why USB and Firewire? When all I need is a firewire output?

you're right. that's all you do need. i was just suggesting what i would do. only reason i would is 'cause it's more crap for me to say that i have.

[Laiderdaiv]

RTFM

[curriemaster]

At 1/8/07 06:53 PM, Wavedude wrote: Ok, I have a firewire card, but something I didnt know is that you can connect your audio to it!

Using an and my mixer and card:
How could I have the mixer plugged into the firewire card?

Im told that an excellent Firewire interface is the Presonus Firebox (link to review). This would add MIDI and 6 audio inputs to your current system. Personally I use the Lexicon Omega, which is an excellent USB interface, giving MIDI/line in/mic capabilities as well.

Im not sure if either one is better than the other though...from the soundonsound reviews they seem to be pretty matched! The Firebox looks pretty cool, though for MIDI you do have to use the breakout cable which might ruin the look a wee bit. All I can say is, my Omega was an excellent purchase worth every penny I spent!

[Wavedude]

Wow, thanks for all your help! But realy, is firewire faster than USB?

[Critical-Collision]

At 1/10/07 11:00 AM, Wavedude wrote: Wow, thanks for all your help! But realy, is firewire faster than USB?

Faster than USB 1.0 yeah but not faster than USB 2.0 I think they're about the same

[Khuskan]

At 1/8/07 06:53 PM, Wavedude wrote: Ok, I have a firewire card, but something I didnt know is that you can connect your audio to it!

Using an and my mixer and card:
How could I have the mixer plugged into the firewire card?

All (decent) mixers have phono connecters for audio output. All decent USB/Firewire soundcards have Phono connecters for audio inputs.

See where I'm going with this?

Problem with 1/4" jacks is that although they're perfectly fine for mixer>amp etc, soundcards with dual mono 1/4" jack inputs for left/right are rare. This is because jack input plugs are bulky, and phonos are a much smaller, cheaper alternative instead of having to make the whole card bigger.

Likewise, all decent mixers have dual XLR balanced output, which would be preferable to both jacks and phonos - but USB and firewire XLR inputs tend to be considerably more costly.

[curriemaster]

At 1/10/07 11:00 AM, Wavedude wrote: Wow, thanks for all your help! But realy, is firewire faster than USB?

I believe that USB 2.0 and Firewire are of similar speed. The Omega is USB 1.1 only but it nevertheless has a very low latency, it depends on your computer speed. Also, both the Presonus Firebox and the Lexicon Omega have two balanced XLR inputs, which is very useful in eliminating noise from audio recordings. Both the Omega and Firebox have great preamps installed in them with phantom power, so you can plug in either dynamic or condenser mics as well, if you have them.

[ZENON]

At 1/10/07 04:56 AM, Laiderdaiv wrote: RTFM

If none of you know what this means, put a penis in your mouth and use it as a soother.

[DeathlySwarm]

At 1/10/07 01:30 PM, BLACKNOISE wrote:

At 1/10/07 04:56 AM, Laiderdaiv wrote: RTFM

If none of you know what this means, put a penis in your mouth and use it as a soother.

ooooh the cunt has spoken.

People know what RTFM means, I'm sure, unless it is something that only the retarded know the meaning to.

Wavedude in case you haven't already done that, do it now! save yourself the bother of asking further questions.

If you have done that, then tell these 2 clowns to suck on some cock themselves

[vonDark]

At 1/10/07 11:08 AM, Critical-Collision wrote: Faster than USB 1.0 yeah but not faster than USB 2.0 I think they're about the same

Just so you know, there's a reason why noone produces USB 2.0 soundcards. And that is, because USB 2.0 is absolute shit, well kinda. Sure the MAXIMUM speed is higher, but because of the varying speed it's unusable for anything that would require a stable data-stream.

And in speed tests, firewire has allways proved to be faster.
I love apple for inventing it.

[Khuskan]

At 1/10/07 02:13 PM, vonDark wrote:

Just so you know, there's a reason why noone produces USB 2.0 soundcards.

Yup. Because usb 1.0 or 1.2 is cheaper to produce, and you don't need the 2.0 high speed for even the highest common bitrates and sample rates - You would never use it, so why put a more expensive (production side) component in it?

And in speed tests, firewire has allways proved to be faster.
I love apple for inventing it.

The college studio has a firewire soundcard. Making it work is a chore. Yes, its faster, yes, it has better data stream, but seriously, to get the mac (yes. It's a mac) to even recognise the firewire soundcard, both parts have to be restarted about 3 times, then the sound settings on the mac reconfigured to use it.

I have a USB m-audio audiophile. It's plug and play.

[vonDark]

At 1/10/07 02:21 PM, Khuskan wrote: The college studio has a firewire soundcard. Making it work is a chore. Yes, its faster, yes, it has better data stream, but seriously, to get the mac (yes. It's a mac) to even recognise the firewire soundcard, both parts have to be restarted about 3 times, then the sound settings on the mac reconfigured to use it.

Uh, I do beleive this pretty much has to do with the drivers, not the cable.

[curriemaster]

At 1/10/07 02:34 PM, vonDark wrote:

At 1/10/07 02:21 PM, Khuskan wrote: The college studio has a firewire soundcard. Making it work is a chore. Yes, its faster, yes, it has better data stream, but seriously, to get the mac (yes. It's a mac) to even recognise the firewire soundcard, both parts have to be restarted about 3 times, then the sound settings on the mac reconfigured to use it.

Uh, I do beleive this pretty much has to do with the drivers, not the cable.

Actually, the reason I bought the USB interface rather than the Firewire one was because I was told by quite a few people that for sustained data transfer the Firewire interface is pretty unreliable while running on a PC. I would assume its better on the Mac, but Im not surprised at all that people (and its not like Khuskan is unfamiliar with audio equipment and computers anyway - so he would have a better chance than most at getting it to work properly) still have problems with it.

Also, what cable are you talking about?

[vonDark]

At 1/10/07 03:06 PM, curriemaster wrote: Also, what cable are you talking about?

I worded myself a little wrong. I was talking about how the different kinds of connection-kinds wouldn't really affect the plug-and-play. As long as it supports CoreAudio, it should be easy as hell to connect.

[Wavedude]

SO you guys are saying, I should just get a USB 2.0? Hmm, my mixer already has a USB drive in it, could I still use that?

[vonDark]

At 1/11/07 03:29 PM, Wavedude wrote: SO you guys are saying, I should just get a USB 2.0?

There are no fucking USB 2.0 audio interfaces.

[powrrock]

At 1/11/07 03:29 PM, Wavedude wrote: SO you guys are saying, I should just get a USB 2.0? Hmm, my mixer already has a USB drive in it, could I still use that?

You cant replace the usb drive in the mixer, unless you have some really expensive modifiable board.

Purchasing a firewire interface is no different than you buying another board with firewire support. All your doing is bypassing having to use the USB 1.1 thats built into your board.
There's really no problem with it depending what your recording. You can only record 2 tracks simultaneously.

If you dont want 8, or 12 individual tracks, and you'd rather just export the main mix as your two tracks (which I usually do if I'm not doing a studio recording).

What do you want to record? What do you plan to record?

[Wavedude]

At 1/13/07 01:40 PM, powrrock wrote:
What do you want to record? What do you plan to record?

I just want to record stuff from the mixer into Cubase. The recording works fine, its perfect, but theres a 1 second delay from the played instrument. I played my guitar and it came up on cubase a second late.

[powrrock]

At 1/13/07 03:01 PM, Wavedude wrote:

At 1/13/07 01:40 PM, powrrock wrote:
What do you want to record? What do you plan to record?

I just want to record stuff from the mixer into Cubase. The recording works fine, its perfect, but theres a 1 second delay from the played instrument. I played my guitar and it came up on cubase a second late.

yea, you have some latency issues.

That could be either your software or your board.

Recomedations -

Tascam Us-122 (its usb still but I can guarntee you wont have any issues) $150-$180
Mbox 2 mini - Usb too, but I have had no latency issues. $270 - 300 (this comes with protools, which I prefer over cubase)

Most firewire interfaces are 4+ inputs. If you want to spend the cash, Tascam has a nice firewire board for like $600, the Fw-1082.

[Wavedude]

At 1/13/07 06:03 PM, powrrock wrote:
yea, you have some latency issues.

That could be either your software or your board.

It could be the software becuase it does the same thing to ReWire. But still, If Im just recording, does it matter that theres a delay? This delay doesnt show up on the rocorded track, it just does it when the "monitor" button is on.

[<deleted>]

At 1/10/07 01:30 PM, BLACKNOISE wrote:

At 1/10/07 04:56 AM, Laiderdaiv wrote: RTFM

If none of you know what this means, put a penis in your mouth and use it as a soother.

I suppose that is the only way you could ever get head Isn't it?

Sucking your own dick Isn't a very positive way of getting to 3rd base ;)

Stop acting like such a cocky bastard, it's rather annoying >=(

And no I don't know what RTFM means so what now? I have to suck a dick because you said so? You are stupid blacknoise, which might I add is one of the stupidest alias's ever.

=)

[Wavedude]

At 1/13/07 06:10 PM, OCON wrote:

You are stupid blacknoise, which might I add is one of the stupidest alias's ever.

=)

Dont forget, he was ZENON before BLACKNOISE.

[<deleted>]

At 1/13/07 06:13 PM, Wavedude wrote:

At 1/13/07 06:10 PM, OCON wrote:

You are stupid blacknoise, which might I add is one of the stupidest alias's ever.

=)

Dont forget, he was ZENON before BLACKNOISE.

I know that, and zenon was a better name