Christians, jews worship Allah

[Truth]

Allah is an arabic word meaning one god.
Christians, jews worship one god.
therefore they worship Allah.

This is a fact.

[reviewer-general]

Alla h is just a NAME for that one god. Christians conveniently don't give God a name other than "God" .

[Peter-II]

At 1/7/07 03:44 PM, reviewer-general wrote: Alla h is just a NAME for that one god. Christians conveniently don't give God a name other than "God" .

They should call God "Yahweh", though.

[SkunkyFluffy]

Yes, all three religions worship the god of Abraham and Isaac. Although Islam retells the stories slightly differently in the Quran, all three faiths share the Old Testament (Tanakh in the Hebrew faith). They share many of the same laws and codes of conduct.

What's your point? Do you think if every Jew, Christian, and Muslim on the planet realized that they were all just worshiping the same dude, they would stop fighting?

Maybe we can band together and destroy all the polytheists. They're cluttering up the place.

[Proteas]

At 1/7/07 03:38 PM, shohaib wrote: This is a fact.

So... did you figure this out on your own, or did you need help?

[Truth]

At 1/7/07 04:02 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 1/7/07 03:38 PM, shohaib wrote: This is a fact.

So... did you figure this out on your own, or did you need help?

i only posted this, so people wouldn't get confused

[Jose]

This isn't general, this isn't groundbreaking.

[Proteas]

At 1/7/07 04:17 PM, shohaib wrote: i only posted this, so people wouldn't get confused

That would imply that it wasn't a known fact to begin with.

[Peter-II]

At 1/7/07 04:17 PM, shohaib wrote: i only posted this, so people wouldn't get confused

Bullshit. Who would have been confused in the first place?

[Truth]

At 1/7/07 04:22 PM, Jose wrote: This isn't general, this isn't groundbreaking.

thanks for not not posting

[Jose]

At 1/7/07 04:27 PM, shohaib wrote:

At 1/7/07 04:22 PM, Jose wrote: This isn't general, this isn't groundbreaking.

thanks for not not posting

Thanks for making such a wonderful and in depth topic.

[cold-as-hell]

All these religions and a few others are from the same tree.

[thatguy]

Look here are the real gods:
Here

Now that that's out of the way,
You just stated the facts captain obvious, how revolutionary is that...We all know they are different words for the same thing, actually nobody knows God's real name, it was lost a long time ago, the differences are certain beliefs that each of these religions have.

[MortifiedPenguins]

Allah was also a arabic pagan moon god.

And thats a fact.

[packow]

Why the hell would you post this? It serves no other purpose than to make no-it-alls correct your definition or start showing off their historical knowledge, or to make (stupid) christians hate jews.

[seventy-one]

At 1/7/07 08:06 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Allah was also a arabic pagan moon god.

And thats a fact.

Allah was also what many arabic speaking people called gods- "God". Whether it be moon god, sun god, ground god, they were all a "God".

I don't see your point.

[troubles1]

At 1/7/07 03:38 PM, shohaib wrote: Allah is an arabic word meaning one god.
Christians, jews worship one god.
therefore they worship Allah.

This is a fact.

1. why did you post this in the politics forum?

2 . do you think this is some new revelation that everyone did not know/

3. I am guessing you just found this out and think you are some Indiana Jones type of person who discovered some lost treasure,, YOU DID NOT.

4. Would you like us to find you a psychologist to help you with your problem here or do you just need a hug?

[YHWH]

Actually, my name is the true name. Well, the Anglicized name.

[packow]

At 1/7/07 10:35 PM, YHWH wrote: Actually, my name is the true name. Well, the Anglicized name.

It's true.

Well, wouldn't it really be "YHVH?"

I guess the letter vav would be translated into a "W," but when spoken in hebrew it would sound like a V...

Considering it is "Yud Hey Vav Hey"

[packow]

At 1/8/07 12:40 AM, Grammer wrote: Jesus Christ is Allah.

I just thought we'd clear that all up.

Would "Allah" be the father, son and holy spirit in one, or would it just be the father?

Why would it be Jesus?

[Peter-II]

At 1/7/07 08:06 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Allah was also a arabic pagan moon god.

And thats a fact.

That's false. Just because Jack Chick says it doesn't make it true.

[cellardoor6]

At 1/8/07 12:40 AM, Grammer wrote: Jesus Christ is Allah.

I just thought we'd clear that all up.

Then who is The Father and the Holy Ghost, which Islam makes no reference to?

Oh and by the way, if you told a Muslim that Jesus Christ was/is Allah they would consider that blasphemy.

They believed that Jesus was just a holy man or one step down from a prophet, they don't believe he was a divine deity like Christians do.

Let me clear some things up for you:

-Yahweh (YHWH) was Jesus Christ before took on a physical body. Therefore Jews worshipped Christ, but when he was born they were unaware of this. Up until the time Christ was born, Jews, Christians, and future muslims believed that Judaism was the true religion.

-Jesus was born into a physical body, died, was transfigured, then resurrected and this is the Christ that Christians worship. Jews rejected him, and carried on with ancient Judaism and worshiped the past 'version' of christ even though Christians believe that their YHWH was already born (Jews still wait for him to arrive).

-600 years after Christ was born, and the 'true church' was in apostasy (Christianity became distorted), judaism already in apostasy. Then a man named Muhammad claimed to be visited by the Angel Gabriel and told that both Judaism and Christianity had gone astray from 'the way' and that a new gospel or shari'a needed to be restored to bring about the salvation of mankind.

Muhammad then gained a following, and the Islam we have today believes that until the end of the world, Islam will be the only true church, and there will be no living prophet after muhammad until the return of the Mahdi which will be a savior of sorts.

-When this Mahdi appears, the jews who are still waiting for their messiah (who already came according to Christians) will consider him to be the Christ, and so will Muslims, these religions will unite momentarily under a peace which will spread throughout the world for the first time in the history of Abrahamic religions.

But Christians consider this "mahdi" to be a false messiah (the anti-christ) who only brings peace as a means to consolidate power to eventually to persecute the true religion of followers of the true Christ who was already born, crucified, and resurrected.

This Mahdi becomes the political and religious leader of the world, and sets himself to be God and makes jerusalem the capital of a one-world government, which will partially fulfill the messianic teachings of both Judaism and Christianity.

Then Christians believe this false Messiah will seek to crush the last remaining followers of the true God and will do so by a military invasion of "Zion" (some believe Zion will be in the US, some believe it is just the mountain in Israel).

Then a final battle will take place, the Anti-Christ will be destroyed, then the true Christ will be made known to 'all nations, kindreds, and tongues' and all will worship him, and so forth for 1000 years.

Then after this a great spiritual battle will ensue, Christ will conquer, then all things will be put in their final order, and Christ will become our spiritual King (king of earth as well) and The Father still reigns over the entire universe. All evil doers are cast into hell (some forever, some temporarily as a punishment until they repent)

But alternatively, Muslims believe that this Mahdi will rule the world, then the world itself will be cleansed with fire and cease to exist, then all creation will be transfigured into the spirit world (paradise or hell) and the only true Allah will be known.

Alternatively, Jews believe that the Messiah will bring eternal life to everyone and everyone becomes resurrected to stay on earth under a reign of peace (every evil person becomes good), and God himself reigns as king in the flesh over the earth.

Theres quite a difference.

So bottom line: Allah does NOT = The Father, Son, or Holy Spirit.

Allah does not = Yahweh

[L337LiquidFire]

That was very well put. It is nice to see clarity and to hear someone who has taken the time to research what they say.

[cold-as-hell]

God, Jesus, allah, christ!, toyota.

It all sucks in the end.

[Goldensheep]

"Bum" is an American word meaning "Tramp" or "Vagrant"
"Bum" is also an English word meaning "Ass" or "Backside"
Therefore the homless are a bunch of assholes

This is a fact.

[cold-as-hell]

At 1/8/07 12:26 PM, Goldensheep wrote: "Bum" is an American word meaning "Tramp" or "Vagrant"
"Bum" is also an English word meaning "Ass" or "Backside"
Therefore the homless are a bunch of assholes

This is a fact.

Ive never heard an american say tramp.

This is a fact.

[MortifiedPenguins]

At 1/7/07 09:40 PM, seventy-one wrote:

At 1/7/07 08:06 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

I don't see your point.

It was mainly a rebutal against the topic creator.

And I actually did look it up and it seems Allah is just a combination of words for the and lord.

So, yeah my mistake.

[Elfer]

At 1/7/07 04:27 PM, Peter-II wrote:

At 1/7/07 04:17 PM, shohaib wrote: i only posted this, so people wouldn't get confused

Bullshit. Who would have been confused in the first place?

Well, Jews, Muslims and Christians apparently.

[SolInvictus]

At 1/8/07 11:53 AM, cold-as-hell wrote: God, Jesus, allah, christ!, toyota.

It all sucks in the end.

luckily all of the above have no end.

[Leeloo-Minai]

At 1/8/07 12:48 PM, Grammer wrote:

At 1/8/07 03:52 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 1/8/07 12:40 AM, Grammer wrote: Jesus Christ is Allah.

I just thought we'd clear that all up.

Then who is The Father and the Holy Ghost, which Islam makes no reference to?

I don't have to be Muslim to use the word Allah. In Pimp's profile, it says he's god, so it's like he's saying he's Allah. Get it? "Allah" doesn't necessarily refer to the god of Islam.

So yeah. Jesus is Allah.

Way to piss all over a great post.

Do Muslims know the mother of their God was Mary? No? Read cellardoors post, for real this time, to find out why.