poppyseed warning for drug tests

[psycho-squirrel]

poppyseed muffins, poppy seed cake, any food product with poppy seeds if ate enough, which can just be just one baggle, will show up positive on a drug test for opium. why? because opium comes from poppy seeds. many people have lost their jobs because they ate a food product with poppyseeds in them. many people dont know that poppyseed foods will shop up positive on a drug test.

drug tests must have a warning showing that if you have consumed poppyseeds, it will show a false positive.

the drug tests are very sensitive, thus they have way too much room for error.

have this waringing for any and al drug tests, and also a secondary test of some kind that will show if the test was a positive or a false positive.

or you could just not eat poppyseed products ever again. but that is easier said then done for those who like poppyseed cakes and such. which is a large amount of people.

[Kings-Cant-Fall]

This belongs in the politcal forum how?

[poxpower]

/ Seinfeld

[psycho-squirrel]

At 1/4/07 06:42 PM, Kings-Cant-Fall wrote: This belongs in the politcal forum how?

because it is a drug related topic. drug testing issues are part of the political catagory.

[SolInvictus]

At 1/4/07 08:59 PM, psycho-squirrel wrote: because it is a drug related topic. drug testing issues are part of the political catagory.

it is a poppy-seed related topic with nothing to debate or discuss.

[packow]

I don't understand why drug use is any of the employers business unless it affects their work or they show up to work intoxicated.

It's stupid to urine test workers for THC, for example. because It's not the employers' business if a worker has used marijuana in the past three weeks.

Hair Folicle testing is especially stupid, because it's not the employers' business if a worker has used marijuana in the past year.

Now blood testing, in my opinion, should be the only form of THC testing permitted in business, because it's the only test that can detect use within the day.

A workplace has every right to fire a worker who shows up stoned, but to test for previous week usage? Workplaces don't test for alcohol in previous weeks, why test for any other drug?

It's a simple violation of privacy.

[AdamRice]

That's an interesting story, although there really isn't much to debate about, you pretty much laid it on the table.

Do you have a link to a news story that is related to this poppy seed/opium drug test situation?

[Freemind]

At 1/4/07 06:46 PM, poxpower wrote: / Seinfeld

You beat me to it.

[Kev-o]

It would also be in your best interest to abstain from drugs before a drug test...

[Proteas]

At 1/4/07 09:57 PM, packow wrote: It's a simple violation of privacy.

No it isn't; they signed away their right to privacy the moment put their name on the release form at the end of the job application. You signed it, you agreed to it. DEAL WITH IT.

[packow]

At 1/4/07 10:09 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 1/4/07 09:57 PM, packow wrote: It's a simple violation of privacy.

No it isn't; they signed away their right to privacy the moment put their name on the release form at the end of the job application. You signed it, you agreed to it. DEAL WITH IT.

True. It's not infringing on your rights, but what I meant to emphasize was that the drug testing policy should be changed. It SHOULD be none of their business unless it pertains to the workplace.

[stafffighter]

At 1/4/07 11:22 PM, packow wrote:

True. It's not infringing on your rights, but what I meant to emphasize was that the drug testing policy should be changed. It SHOULD be none of their business unless it pertains to the workplace.

Someone who works for you being high at the time would very much pertian to the workplace.
And the mythbusters already determined the muffin thing could happen

[packow]

At 1/4/07 11:30 PM, stafffighter wrote:

At 1/4/07 11:22 PM, packow wrote:

True. It's not infringing on your rights, but what I meant to emphasize was that the drug testing policy should be changed. It SHOULD be none of their business unless it pertains to the workplace.

Someone who works for you being high at the time would very much pertian to the workplace.
And the mythbusters already determined the muffin thing could happen

Exactly. This is why I said they should do blood tests for THC rather than Urine tests, as blood tests can determine if someone had been using at the time, while a positive urine test only means that cannabis was used in the previous month.

[zendahl]

Fine I'll say it. They aren't interested in wether you actualy used the specific drug in question. They are only interested in wether you illegaly use a drug or not. Just because you might not be affected while at work doesn't mean they have any obligation to employ a person who engages in criminal drug use that could someday interfere with your performance on the job. Just because you're not high right now, doesn't mean you weren't high at work yesterday, or the day before. I don't want a drug using employee to keep working for me just because I was unlucky enough to test you on the day that your dog ate your stash. I would rather just say no drug users.

[Draconias]

That poppyseed thing is a myth. You would have to eat absurd amounts of poppy seeds (twenty plus pounds of the seed alone or something) for it to register as opium in your blood.

Employers do drug testing for plausible deniability. "Oh, my employee is doing cocaine, heroine, and marijuana and ODed yesterday? Well, we had no idea! He passed the drug test!"

[HogWashSoup]

At 1/5/07 12:12 PM, Draconias wrote: That poppyseed thing is a myth. You would have to eat absurd amounts of poppy seeds (twenty plus pounds of the seed alone or something) for it to register as opium in your blood.

Employers do drug testing for plausible deniability. "Oh, my employee is doing cocaine, heroine, and marijuana and ODed yesterday? Well, we had no idea! He passed the drug test!"

its a proven myth, and it doesnt take much. as shown on mythbusters and proof from my uncle. had 2 poppy seed muffins and showed positive on the test.

[Kings-Cant-Fall]

At 1/4/07 08:59 PM, psycho-squirrel wrote:

At 1/4/07 06:42 PM, Kings-Cant-Fall wrote: This belongs in the politcal forum how?

because it is a drug related topic. drug testing issues are part of the political catagory.

You're wrong. Drugs, as they relate to politics and law, belong in this forum. A thread about poppy seeds has absolutely nothing to do with politics.

The discussion of drugs tests and their usage by employers is a acceptable though...

[packow]

At 1/5/07 03:02 AM, zendahl wrote: Fine I'll say it. They aren't interested in wether you actualy used the specific drug in question. They are only interested in wether you illegaly use a drug or not. Just because you might not be affected while at work doesn't mean they have any obligation to employ a person who engages in criminal drug use that could someday interfere with your performance on the job. Just because you're not high right now, doesn't mean you weren't high at work yesterday, or the day before. I don't want a drug using employee to keep working for me just because I was unlucky enough to test you on the day that your dog ate your stash. I would rather just say no drug users.

The only problem I could see is the possibility of losing worktime due to an arrest.

But if a person is doing their job efficiently and not hurting anyone, I don't see why businesses should feel like it's their duty to do.

[troubles1]

At 1/5/07 12:55 PM, HogWashSoup wrote:

At 1/5/07 12:12 PM, Draconias wrote: That poppyseed thing is a myth. You would have to eat absurd amounts of poppy seeds (twenty plus pounds of the seed alone or something) for it to register as opium in your blood.

Employers do drug testing for plausible deniability. "Oh, my employee is doing cocaine, heroine, and marijuana and ODed yesterday? Well, we had no idea! He passed the drug test!"

its a proven myth, and it doesnt take much. as shown on mythbusters and proof from my uncle. had 2 poppy seed muffins and showed positive on the test.

I call bullshit, it would take a lot of poppy-seeds to test positive for opium. plus it would be so minute of a amount that it would not matter. I have taken quite a few piss tests , and ate Mcdonalds and other foods containing the dreaded poppy-seed , no problems. Your Uncle eating two muffins does not equal him taking a vicodin ,or Oxycontin, or heroin for that matter.

[heartagram-666]

Hmmmmmm..... been watching Seinfeld lately? Hack. Go choke to death on your poppy seeds. Asshole.

[Draconias]

At 1/5/07 12:55 PM, HogWashSoup wrote: its a proven myth, and it doesnt take much. as shown on mythbusters and proof from my uncle. had 2 poppy seed muffins and showed positive on the test.

As proven false on Mythbusters. Also, two muffins is not enough to register. Your uncle probably was using opium-- the drug tests simply aren't that sensitive and the stuff goes through your system too quickly.