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At 1/2/07 04:08 AM, PeppermintRoo wrote: I came across this blog just now, and was interested and ammused by what it had to say:

I wanted to include some more info about the part in the link you gave me were it says that the french fought the americans in french marroco. I found that weird I didnt heard of it yet so I asked my dad about it (I know! I know! its just easy he studied WWI and WWII history, so thats why)
They indeed did fight the americans, but thats because vichy (the state) was on the german side. france didnt really have a goverment, and these armies were under command of german favoured leaders. they didnt really represent france in my opinion. I mean every european nation under german control had pro-nazi parties in control.
I really dont think you can blame 'the french' for this action.

I live and was born in South America. While I have some French blood, I can hardly stand the French. In my opinion, French people lack taste and are arrogant. Once I tried living in France and it is the exact opposite from what is seen. Fancy restaurants? Thats bullshit. Hot women? Not particularly. Refined manners? More like barnyard behavior, I should say. Luxurious residences? More like shitty, small and dark ghettos. Maybe France was great once, but today no more. French people are living, at best, from past glories, and refuse to embrace the present and the future. Even Internet access in France is a bit faulty... If other French people read this, then take my advice: Don't refuse to evolve. There is nothing wrong with evolving. Evolution is good. Don't live upon past glories. Robespierre, the French Revolution, and Marx, are long gone. Create something new.

At 1/3/07 11:33 AM, candymancan wrote:
They are a society of stereotypes, and hypocrisy. And if you've ever been to France you'll see that the French are much more of a proud and sophisticated people than Americans themselves.

When I was in France, I never met such a French. They seemed pretty much as unculturized people as anyone else.

And I am not a big fan of the Americans, either (I'm not American), but I still had to point out that French people lack any style whatsoever.

Maybe you talk that way because, who knows, maybe you got to meet the French elite, the best of the best, the rich, the famous, or something. Not my case, I am talking about your everyday French, which is all I can account for.

At 1/2/07 10:45 PM, Techware wrote:

At 1/2/07 09:32 PM, fasdit wrote:

I think the main reason everyone hates them today (or thinks they hate them), is because France did not support the US with invading Iraq or the war on terror.

We've hated them a hell of a lot longer than that. Try WWI longer.

Why hate them in WW1 they did alot more than america did, america did very little in WW1

At 1/3/07 12:08 PM, zzzzd wrote:

Why hate them in WW1 they did alot more than america did, america did very little in WW1

Part of the reason is because they acted like complete snobs to everyone else. Having that "we're better" attitude. In fact, a lot of Americans much prefered the company of a German than a French man during both wars.

At 1/3/07 01:07 PM, candymancan wrote: Tell me Techware, have you ever truly met a french person? Or are you just referring to the viewpoints of those who have?

Did I say I? No I said we as the US and gave why we still don't like them.

i am from the UK and i hate the French. for one reason. we and the Americans saved them in TWO wars, yet they still act as if they won them both single handedly. if we had not halted the German advance in WW1 and forced them to dig into trenches the French would have been conquered. and in WW2 if it wasn't for our complete refusal to surrender and American aid to us the French would still be in German control. so show us some gratitude

the english would have been conquered too if it wasnt for the sea and if it wasnt for hitlers mercy in belgium!

At 1/3/07 04:20 PM, Tomsan wrote: the english would have been conquered too if it wasnt for the sea and if it wasnt for hitlers mercy in belgium!

yea Hitler was sooooooo merciful. the French surrendered the second Paris was bombed, using the excuse we didn't want our city destroyed. London was bombed to the ground. and Hitler was posed to invade and we didn't surrender. but the RAF won the battle of Britain and made it possible to liberate the French,

Wow anti french sentimemts? thats gotta be like, the news of the year!! So green day listeners, if you don't like america, move to canada. At least that way, we don't have to listen to you idiots complain and gripe about the way things are run. So what if bush is an idiot? anyone with half a brain could tell you that cheney runs everything. You fat frenchie pieces of schau.

I blames YOU FOR VOTING FOR HIM.... wait i can't he rigged the elections.

Theres a simple reason for this:

A) the French hate Americans first and foremost for silly reasons. So all we are doing is returning the favor.

B) the French are backstabbers. Even though we give them a ridiculous amount of military aide in technology, they turn around and sell it to China, Russia, Venezuela, and other countries that the US has military embargos on (that France is supposed to uphold).

C) the French completely disregard the fact that the US saved their asses in WWII, and THEN rebuilt their entire country with our own money, and then we forgave their debt to us so that they wouldn't be our economic slaves for ever.

So the bottomline is, France's economic prosperity, its freedom, and its very existence is only because the US went out of its way to help them. But when we have asked them for help they have either pretended to help us while helping our enemy, or have completely refused to do anything other than at most give a token force just to keep up appearance of assistance.

And then, there is the French people themselves that causes Americans to hate the French.

This may be considered 'a stereotype' but it is a commonly held fact that French people are completely fucking rude to foreigners. French people are arrogant, intolerant, assholes with a misguided sense of patriotism.

And someone might say "that sounds like Americans" but the thing is, we Americans may be arrogant, but we are not intolerant and we are NICE to foreigners. I don't see American waiters and waitresses YELLING at foreigners just because they can't order their food in proper English. I've never seen Americans beat up European tourists for shits and giggles. I've never seen Americans go on anti-French tirades when a person with an obvious French accent asks for directions.

But French people do the equivalent of this all the time. Its simply in their culture to be complete fucking dickheads, and especially to the people of countries that came to the rescue of the french when the French were GETTING THEIR ASSES KICKED, SURRENDERING, AND BEING PILLAGED by Germans.

god man i agree with you. and we are forced to learn their language here in Britain. There was a reason we fought a 100 year war with them you know LOL. anyway if it hadn't been for British and American soldiers giving their lives to liberate Europe you would all be enslaved. you act as if you won both wars single handedly. i mean the free French actually had the cheek to demand to be the first to march into Paris. If that doesn't prove that American and British hate is justified i don't know what will.

At 1/3/07 04:50 PM, tigershark13 wrote:

At 1/3/07 04:20 PM, Tomsan wrote: the english would have been conquered too if it wasnt for the sea and if it wasnt for hitlers mercy in belgium!

yea Hitler was sooooooo merciful. the French surrendered the second Paris was bombed, using the excuse we didn't want our city destroyed. London was bombed to the ground. and Hitler was posed to invade and we didn't surrender. but the RAF won the battle of Britain and made it possible to liberate the French,

In a way he was merciful. There was a point where Hitler could have totally invaded England during the Battle of Dunkirk, as well as order the killing of thousands of Brits and other Allied forces. Instead, Hitler pulled back, hoping even then for a peace settlement with England. For you see, England was actually alright in Hitler's book, and from what I recall of my WWII History class even considered them to be pretty close to Aryan stock.

At 1/3/07 06:27 PM, qygibo wrote:

At 1/3/07 04:50 PM, tigershark13 wrote:

At 1/3/07 04:20 PM, Tomsan wrote:

In a way he was merciful. There was a point where Hitler could have totally invaded England during the Battle of Dunkirk, as well as order the killing of thousands of Brits and other Allied forces. Instead, Hitler pulled back, hoping even then for a peace settlement with England. For you see, England was actually alright in Hitler's book, and from what I recall of my WWII History class even considered them to be pretty close to Aryan stock.

i know he respected our empire and even offered peace to Churchill. but we refused it. i was referring too his slaughter of the Jews.

At 1/3/07 06:27 PM, qygibo wrote:

In a way he was merciful. There was a point where Hitler could have totally invaded England during the Battle of Dunkirk, as well as order the killing of thousands of Brits and other Allied forces. Instead, Hitler pulled back, hoping even then for a peace settlement with England. For you see, England was actually alright in Hitler's book, and from what I recall of my WWII History class even considered them to be pretty close to Aryan stock.

Hitler couldn't of just invaded Britain. He didn't have controll of the seas for one thing and he couldnt get control of the skies and there for couldn't invade. At Dunkirk the Germans stopped advancing to reduce there casulties it wasn't to do with being merciful they stopped advancing and used the Artillery an Luffwaffle to try an destroy the remainding allies.

And yea Hitler respected Britain at the start of the war as well as the rest of the English speaking world, Seeing Britsh Commonwealth and america as very similar to germany.
Allthough his respect soon vanished.

At 1/3/07 06:53 PM, tigershark13 wrote:
i know he respected our empire and even offered peace to Churchill. but we refused it. i was referring too his slaughter of the Jews.

lol retard I wasnt

At 1/3/07 06:55 PM, tawc wrote:

At Dunkirk the Germans stopped advancing to reduce there casulties it wasn't to do with being merciful they stopped advancing and used the Artillery an Luffwaffle to try an destroy the remainding allies.

he stopped advancing yes, he did not use any artillery or luftwaffe (which at that time was VERY strong). what you are saying is false. Hitler could have easily destroyed the britain army there.

At 1/3/07 06:31 PM, candymancan wrote:

At 1/3/07 06:16 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

C) the French completely disregard the fact that the US saved their asses in WWII, and THEN rebuilt their entire country with our own money, and then we forgave their debt to us so that they wouldn't be our economic slaves for ever.

Who do you know that is french, and has disregarded the fact that we ASSISTED them, in ridding Germans from their country?

Actually the French forget about America and Britains part of the war in europe and side with the view that russia won the war, similar to how alot of americans think america won the war.

At 1/3/07 07:11 PM, Tomsan wrote:

he stopped advancing yes, he did not use any artillery or luftwaffe (which at that time was VERY strong). what you are saying is false. Hitler could have easily destroyed the britain army there.

He probably could of, But He made a wrong choice and decided to Bomb the shit out of them instead of advancing, If he had advnaved, Dunkirk wouldn;t of been as succesfull as it was.
He didn't just let them go. lol

At 1/2/07 02:50 PM, tawc wrote:

At 1/2/07 12:33 PM, Techware wrote:

Of course, if you knew anything about history...

I know plenty about history, I was just pointing out america hasn;t really been that succesfull with there 15 odd wars.

"History" is always written by the victors.

At 1/3/07 08:02 PM, Aserg wrote:

I know plenty about history, I was just pointing out america hasn;t really been that succesfull with there 15 odd wars.

"History" is always written by the victors.

So by your logic if we won all those wars we'd have written all the history

At 1/3/07 05:46 PM, candymancan wrote:

That makes no sense, and no difference.

Of course it does. I'm not telling you my opinion. I'm telling you why most Americans don't like the French.

Since you can't read very well, Here you go.

At 1/3/07 09:06 PM, candymancan wrote:

It doesn't matter, because you have never met a french person in your entire pathetic lifetime, you have no say on the matter.

I don't need to meet a French person to tell you how others feel about it (it's as simple as asking that person).

You've never met the president. Why do you hate him?

Now because you clearly are an idiot, fuck off and die.

Someone belongs on the 3-4 age.

I went to Cologne with my step-mother for one of her business meeting. I had taken a few French classes, so I could get by in the city by myself. But while I toured some of Cologne's restaraunts, I was heckled by older teenagers and young tweeners, just for the sake of my Rural-American accent in my French. I gave them absolutely no reason to heckle me, and yet the motherfuckers did.

Thats why I hate the French.

At 1/3/07 06:55 PM, tawc wrote:

Hitler couldn't of just invaded Britain. He didn't have controll of the seas for one thing and he couldnt get control of the skies and there for couldn't invade. At Dunkirk the Germans stopped advancing to reduce there casulties it wasn't to do with being merciful they stopped advancing and used the Artillery an Luffwaffle to try an destroy the remainding allies.

And yea Hitler respected Britain at the start of the war as well as the rest of the English speaking world, Seeing Britsh Commonwealth and america as very similar to germany.
Allthough his respect soon vanished.

It wasn't to reduce casualties, it was because Hitler was a bad leader. He felt that it was more necessary to focus on France than it was to knock out this rather large army. He held back because based off of his maps, Hitler felt that the tanks wouldn't make it over the canals that were around the area.

And again, Hitler's views on England also clouded his views. Some of his generals noted this reluctance to take on England full on: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWsealo in.htm

Sure, England had some strong forces, but Hitler played too conservatively. He cared about saving lives as much as it would boost morale at home, but he didn't really care all that much about his people other than how they could be a means to his end of European domination.

At 1/3/07 09:20 PM, YHWH wrote: But while I toured some of Cologne's restaraunts, I was heckled by older teenagers and young tweeners, just for the sake of my Rural-American accent in my French. I gave them absolutely no reason to heckle me, and yet the motherfuckers did.

Thats why I hate the French.

We have plenty of dumbass teenagers in America too

At 1/3/07 09:11 PM, candymancan wrote:

Now because you clearly are an idiot, fuck off and die.

Woah, you need to change your tampon, kid.

At 1/3/07 09:11 PM, candymancan wrote:

I doubt anyone you've asked has ever personally known a french person either, thus making their opinions void as well.

How would you know? Have you met them? Did you ask them if they actually met a French person?

Why would I hate him? He only completely cast aside the constitution, and sent our country to war for nothing but his own ignorance and stupidity.

But you said that you couldn't make a decision about someone unless you've met them. Are you changing that statement?

Now because you clearly are an idiot, fuck off and die.

At least you're fluent in some words.

At 1/3/07 07:05 PM, Tomsan wrote:

At 1/3/07 06:53 PM, tigershark13 wrote:
i know he respected our empire and even offered peace to Churchill. but we refused it. i was referring too his slaughter of the Jews.

lol retard I wasnt

retard you say Hitler was mercyful but he wasn't so i was proving you wrong.

also yes the French do act as if they won WW2 single handedly, they act as if surrandering to the Germans was a ploy. and the free french, if they arn't the piinnicle of arrogence i don't know what was.