At 6/3/16 11:48 AM, PsychoGoldfish wrote:
Oh I'm not saying Roman harmed AJ at all. My point here is that Roman got over on him multiple times, and he's STILL a huge draw. My point is if Roman couldn't damage him, Cena won't be able to either.
Reigns didn't "get over on him" to my mind. Roman beat him, but AJ proved in both matches that he COULD have beaten Roman, and that's huge. They put AJ on a par with him and that allows them to come back to it down the road with a clear and legitimate reason, and for the fans to buy into it. Contrast that with how John Cena feuds usually work, where he never sweats the threat, beats them silly, and renders them totally ineffective before beating them multiple times. He killed the Wyatts, he killed Rusev, he luckily didn't kill Owens but definitely took shine off him. So yeah, they could absolutely book this thing badly. If they book this like they booked Cena vs. Bray, then it'll be an incredible mistake.
I agree the Club should remain small... at least for it's early stages, but I think there is going to be a clear divide between the 'new era' guys, and the old guard, and that could see more talent ending up with the club.
There should be a divide, but that divide should not be done in the basis of a stable. To me that divide should be more along the lines of guys and gals that come up from NXT and are fresh faces vs. the folks who have been around for awhile and maybe are jealous of the attention and the shinyness of the new talents. You're seeing that as the basis for Sheamus/Crews and that can be done in other instances too without having to put a stable people have to join to manufacture it.
Balor is an obvious fit given their history. You never know, the Young Bucks or Kenney Omega could get signed at some point.
They could, but all due respect, their small as fuck, their spot machines. I'm gonna say no. WWE clearly pays attention to NJPW. I think if those guys got signed, it'd be as NXT only guys. I also don't want to turn Balor because then I lose access to The Demon part of his gimmick, and I DON'T want to lose that unless the audience is telling me they don't give a fuck anymore.
It wouldn't be a stretch to see the TNA guys (Joe, Ares, EY) joining up too just to give it that invasion style angle where outside promotions are taking over. It would be more like the Outsiders (Guerrero/Benoit/Saturn/Melinko) faction than the NWO.
TNA is not WCW. TNA is to WCW what the local indy running the local armory or high school gym is to ROH. Right now I think all the guys you mentioned are seen as either ROH guys, or the misused greatness of TNA. That brand stinks worse then shit in the fans' eyes, I've never seen three letters with more heat in this business (and yes, that INCLUDES the last year of WCW). Those guys to me also need to stay in NXT (which gets me a fuck ton of heat, but hear me out) here's why: How do you get better at a job and develop skills? Because you work with and around people who know more then you do right? That's a problem I'm seeing with some of the NXT talents that have come up (Charlotte shows it pretty much to me). If there's no one clearly better then you that you can work then you are only learning how to have good matches with your small clique of dance partners that are on your level. You never learn how to ACTUALLY work. Guys like Joe, like Ares, and like Baylor, Itami, these other international folks coming in WILL teach these young, WWE only folks how the fuck to work a match properly and that is NEEDED badly. Plus, they want NXT to draw as a touring brand now. That means there's gotta be some over and name talent that you can ALWAYS rely on being there. Seems win win to leave the folks I mentioned right where they're at.
The Bullet Club has a long history of being much more than 3 guys, but never growing too big, and nobody wants a repeat of the late NWO, except maybe DoctorStrongbad, so Hulk Hogan can come back and lead them....
It has that history in NJPW. But WWE has been smart about promoting this as like a family, three guys who are like brothers. They have used the bits they've needed from NJPW, and tossed the rest, as they should. To me you need to market The Club like The Horsemen used to be marketed: small, elite, the best workers in the company, the most ruthless bastards too. Make them a main event to upper mid-card machine that the faces can batter themselves against. If you don't know what I mean, go back and watch some classic Crockett Promotions stuff on The Network involving the Horsemen. The NWO started out that way....then it got waaaaay out of control.