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At 7/25/09 06:11 PM, Assi9 wrote: Honestly, I don't think Shawn's held a title since.......I STARTED WATCHING WRESTLING. If he has had said title at any time after 2002-03, please correct me.

He has held the tag titles with Cena before their match at WM23
But World title wise, its been since 02.. and back at the time he only held it for about a month..

Gee, a lot of these matches look familiar. Anywho, time for The D-Lucks Night of Rematc- uh, Champions Predictions! Blah blah, winners in bold, matches/stips in italics, blah.

1. Women's Champion Michelle McCool vs Melina

The match with the least hype is also one of the most obvious. Despite there being very few face challengers for heel McCool, it also just doesn't seem likely that Melina wins the title back. If Melina and McCool have another match at Summerslam then I'll say Melina will likely win that, and perhaps go on to a feud with Natalya providing The Hart Dynasty are finished with Cryme Tyme at that point. Likewise, if there is no rematch between McCool and Melina at SS, then I could see Eve having a quick feud with McCool, again providing the Cryme Tyme/Harts feud is done by then. Regardless though, I don't see McCool dropping the strap so soon after winning it.
McCool to retain.

2. Divas Champion Maryse vs Mickie James

Now, I don't normally include my own feelings on a personal level in my predicitions, but goddamn, they're both so hot. ahem Now that's out of the way, this match should be a lot better than McCool/Melina. Mickie James is just awesome in the ring and Maryse has improved leaps and bounds since her early days in the company. The storyline here though is that Maryse is scared of facing Mickie as Mickie seems to have her number. Now, what I'd LIKE to happen is that this feud is extended by having Mickie win by DQ or Maryse win by shenanigans tonight after Maryse splashes Mickie in the face with perfume again. Either way, Mickie will get a rematch at SS because of it, plus it ties in with previous events in their feud. But of course this is Creative, and we'll probably get a cut and dry clean match with no real intrigue at all. In which case I see Mickie winning due to the whole 'Maryse is scared of facing her' angle.
Mickie to win.

3. Unified WWE Tag Team Champions Chris Jericho & ??? vs Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase

There are so many ways this match can go, and it completely depends on who Y2J's partner is (thank you, Captain Obvious). As far as I'm concerned it can be out of the following:
Kane - seen talking with Jericho on this week's SD. But of course if you see anyone showing an interest in becoming Jericho's partner on TV, it will never happen at the PPV. So Kane's ruled out.
The Brian Kendrick - See above, unfortunately.
Christian - It wouldn't be the first time they've teamed up, and if Christian loses his match against Dreamer earlier in the night, then it's possible he 'snaps' and alligns himself with Jericho. Plus he can then say he's better than injured Edge or something, given their history.
Cody Rhodes/Ted DiBiase - Rhodes turned on Bob Holly to become Ted's 'mystery partner at last year's NoC, perhaps one will turn on the other tonight for the sake of history repeating itself. But it wouldn't make a lot of sense.
Chris Masters - The guy's allegedly set to come back soon, and he and Jericho could become a submission specialist team provided Masters keeps the Masterlock, although I'm hoping he doesn't really, it was a bit crap.
Someone EVIL - As hinted by Jericho's Twitter. Of course, this could be entirely a red herring. After all, who's going to believe Funaki as Y2J's partner?
Lance Storm, Dean Malenko, JBL - A MAN CAN DREAM, DAMN IT.

Frankly the partner could be anyone. To me it seems Christian is the most likely, but we'll just have to see tonight. Whoever it is though, I really don't see Jericho losing the belts unless he decides the only person worth tagging with Chris Jericho is Chris Jericho, defends the titles alone and loses. Which I really don't want to happen, as fitting as it would be to his character.
Jericho and Mystery Partner to retain though.

4. United States Champion Kofi Kingston vs MVP vs Carlito vs Jack Swagger vs The Miz vs Big Show (Six Pack Challenge)

The way the match has been pushed over the last week (Big Show trashing literally everyone) has left me wary over this one. If Show wins tonight, who's going to win it off him? Whenever Show has a championship, there's always a credibility issue attached to eventually getting the belt off him. Plus Show shouldn't really be borderline burying the midcard by winning the match tonight, it would do no one any favours. Hence why the best possible result for me is Jack Swagger winning tonight. Swagger's in a blossoming feud with MVP right now which has the potential to be really good, and series of matches for the US title should make it even better. Really, that's my only reasoning for this prediction; there's more to be gained storyline-wise from Swagger (or by association MVP) winning the match than Big Show trashing everyone and having a ridiculously long reign with the belt.
So, hopefully, Swagger to win a very fitting title tonight.

5. Intercontinental Champion Rey Mysterio vs Dolph Ziggler w/ Maria

This is one of the tougher ones to predict. Whereas Rey only just won the belt back from Jericho at The Bash, Ziggler's being pushed to the moon right now. Really, Ziggler has a lot more to gain from winning this match than Rey does. Rey's going to remain wildly over with or without the title and Ziggler jobbing to Rey would almost definately hurt his credibility, especially after getting a pinfall win over Khali, Kane interference or not. Could Maria be a factor in the match? Possible yes, but she isn't going to trip Rey or anything like that; she's still a face ultimately. If she does intervene, it'll be in a way similar to Dolph's match against Finlay on SD. Ultimately though, Ziggler has much more to lose in this match kayfabe-wise than Rey, so I'm going with another short reign for Rey here.
Kerwin White's cadd-, uh, Nicky, I mean, Ziggler to win.

6. ECW Champion Tommy Dreamer vs Christian

It's match #529 in their Best of 1056 Series, and hence should be their last PPV encounter with any luck. While they've had some ok matches, this rivalry has run its course now. It's time for Dreamer to go on to a new feud with Regal, Kozlov or Benjamin or something. Shelton in particular as he has a win over Christian and so can claim to be better than the No. 1 contender. Plus if Christian loses this match early in the night, he can potentially allign himself with Jericho later on. Point is, this feud's dragged on long enough and it's time for a fresh contender to the belt.
Tommy to retain.

7. World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk vs JYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFF Hardy

After watching Punk's promo on this Friday's SD, I officially mark for Punk a lot harder than I did before. As some of you have said, it is bizarre that the one with past drug problems is the face in this TVPG scenario and the straight-edge sober one is the heel. And I also found myself agreeing with Punk's points; the whole thing is utterly bizarre for TVPG, and yet it's also really entertaining. As I'm running out of characters, I'll make it quick; Punk isn't losing the title yet, it's good business for him to retain and we may even get a Punk/Morrison feud in the near future. Good times. Plus it will be amusing to see the disappointment from Jeff marks.
Punk to retain.

8. WWE Champion Randy Orton vs Triple H vs John Cena (Triple Threat Match)

Three words. Same. Old. Shit. Raw is literally infuriating to me at this point; everything about it with the exception on the US title picture (minus Big Show) just induces rage in me, but that's a story for another time (and it will be). Point is, Randy needs to be booked stronger instead of being constantly buried by HHH or Cena, blah blah blah, please fucking retain. Plus if HBK's returning soon for a feud with Orton that'll at least make things interesting for at least 2 weeks.
Orton to retain. Please.

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PREDICTIONS OVER. As usual, any thoughts on them?

At 7/26/09 12:25 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Also on the give Michaels the title...why?

I could definitely see an upside in HBK getting the title. He can drag a good match out of pretty much anyone, and he knows how to put together a really good story within a match. That could really help them build some new people into main event positions. I mean, they could use a HBK/Orton feud to build Orton as a believable champion finally, but I think with HBK as champ, they could get a few people up there.

I know it's not likely to happen. I think what will happen is HBK will feud with Orton, they'll trade the title a few times, but Orton will ultimately retain, and they'll have to get some promising talent from SD! to bury in the ME picture of Raw.

At 7/26/09 08:01 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: 1. Women's Champion Michelle McCool vs Melina

I don't think the WWE puts enough thought into the women's division to plan ahead, so I'd say Melina will win the belt and feud with Natalya.

2. Divas Champion Maryse vs Mickie James

I'm going Mickie James, although I could see Miz interfering to win Maryse's love.

3. Unified WWE Tag Team Champions Chris Jericho & ??? vs Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase

I'd say Jericho will retain, but I have no idea who could be his partner, and it's mysteries like this that make wrestling interesting to me.

4. United States Champion Kofi Kingston vs MVP vs Carlito vs Jack Swagger vs The Miz vs Big Show (Six Pack Challenge)

I agree with you about Swagger. An MVP/Swagger feud for the belt could be good. And might make MVP worth a damn again. But probably not.

5. Intercontinental Champion Rey Mysterio vs Dolph Ziggler w/ Maria

WWE is all for the short title reigns and numerous belt changes nowadays, so Misterio dropping the belt seems like a strong possibility, and there's an upside to giving Ziggler the belt.

6. ECW Champion Tommy Dreamer vs Christian

I don't watch ECW, so I don't really know much about this. Then again, I can easily imagine Dreamer retaining and Christian becoming part of the unified tag champs.

7. World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk vs JYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFF Hardy

I'm really beginning to dislike Jeff "I heal myself" Hardy. The only reason Punk is the heel here is because Punk is up against Jeff. And of course Punk's brilliant subtle heel mannerisms.

I see Punk retaining here, and either Jeff going for something extreme and totally wiping himself out, or Punk destroying him totally to explain his absence from the company. Then a fully heel Punk can feud with Misterio.

8. WWE Champion Randy Orton vs Triple H vs John Cena (Triple Threat Match)

ZZZzzzzzz. I'm not going to make a prediction for this. In fact, yes I am: Boredom.

At 7/26/09 08:01 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: 1. Women's Champion Michelle McCool vs Melina
2. Divas Champion Maryse vs Mickie James

Who cares?

3. Unified WWE Tag Team Champions Chris Jericho & ??? vs Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase

Most interesting match of the PPV because we have no idea what is going to happen.

4. United States Champion Kofi Kingston vs MVP vs Carlito vs Jack Swagger vs The Miz vs Big Show (Six Pack Challenge)

The way raw is being book almost expect Show to win and then feud with cena over the title.
however I agree that Swagger winning is the way to go.

5. Intercontinental Champion Rey Mysterio vs Dolph Ziggler w/ Maria

Mystery to win, feud to continue.

6. ECW Champion Tommy Dreamer vs Christian

Dreamer to win, drop title to kozlov soon.

7. World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk vs JYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFF Hardy

I would like to say hardy to win, I can't stand punk. So that's what I will say. Hardy.

8. WWE Champion Randy Orton vs Triple H vs John Cena (Triple Threat Match)

If big show wins US title, Orton to win.
Otherwise, Cena to win.

At 7/26/09 04:44 AM, Random-Her03 wrote:

Chris Jericho is teasing who his mystery partner for tomorrow night's WWE Night of Champions pay-per-view on Twitter with the following message:

"I'm not gonna say who my partner is going to be tomorrow....but he is EVIL...."

Taka Michinoku?..

That would be awesome.

As far as predictions go, I think you guys have hit the nail on the head for them. The only thing I'd say would be that I think it would be better if Swagger won the U.S. title in a singles match but yeah I think he's the best one to give the title to next. Him or Miz would benifit from a singles title run.

Raw really needs to put someone new in the WWE title hunt as we are just getting variations of the same thing over and over. I think HBK is a bit too old for WWE to pin their hopes on but he would at least he would freshen up the division.

Is it me or is John Cena better off as a non-Champion? What i mean is, that John Cena's on screen/stage presence is better represented when he's not the champion and that gives Raw more options to add storylines for other characters and such.

With that said, Randy (as much as i hate him) will/should retain the title this weekend.

Punk is just so damn awesome!

Well, Orton is still champ despite tapping out to both Cena & Triple H....because THAT makes sense.
God I HATE the Raw brand right now. I swear, if Michaels doesn't win the title off of Orton, I'm done with Raw. And I love how Cody and DiBiase help Orton win his match, but Orton was NOWHERE TO BE FOUND during their TAG TEAM TITLE MATCH. I mean, if YOU were either of those guys, wouldn't you think "hmm...why am I helping this guy be a champion while I get nothing?"

/rant

hmmm jericho's partner wasn't that epic after all...

thats what i get for getting my hopes up

Jeff Hardy is the champion...which is either proof he's staying, or a swerve on the smart fans and a ploy to really really turn Punk all the way round the bend here. It certainly better not be the Ortoning of Punk once more or else really? Screw WWE hard, they deserve to fail if they've built a guy this much and into an attraction only to dump him off like this.

So who was Jericho's partner? Kane, right?

At 7/27/09 12:43 AM, Assi9 wrote: So who was Jericho's partner? Kane, right?

Well, size wise you're close...Big Show.

Message sent to kids by Jeff beating Punk: Do drugs, win titles.

Goddamnit, WWE.

At 7/27/09 06:11 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Message sent to kids by Jeff beating Punk: Do drugs, win titles.

Goddamnit, WWE.

For real.

I guess this means Jeff is staying. Either that or they will have a loser leaves WWE type match down the road. If Jeff does stick around he could fued with his brother over the title assuming he still has the belt by the time Matt has recovered.

Christian wins the ECW title which is fine with me, Dreamer had a good run but I think they do need to concentrate on building Christian as a top guy.

I'm glad Kofi didn't lose in the 6 pac challenge thing. This way there is a chance for a better singles match for the title between him and Swagger or Miz.

Orton won..Meh. As we have discusses the Raw lineup is getting stale and boring. They really need some fresh opponents for Orton.

So Jericho's partner turned out to be Big Show, not a bad choice... but still.. was it really worth the hype? but anyway the 2 had quite good chemistry for a team, it's no Jericho and Edge but it'll certainly do, also i like the whole RAW wreslter/SD! wrestler combination as the champs. Big Show seems to have refreshed his look aswell, wearing blue and shaving his moustache part of his goatee.. lol yeah i notice these things a lot. For some reason i have a feeling that this tag title run will turn Big Show back to a babyface.. Jericho will most likely go sour on him down the line, and i think Show will retaliate. I hope so, i like the babyface Big Show.. even though the Happy Giant gimmick is currently filled (Khali).

I'm not a CM Punk fan, and i'm not afraid to express it, but i've come around to liking this gimmick, he actually is right about a lot of things that he expresses in his promos.. but he's just such a smug asshole about it.. its great, kinda reminds me of Muhammad Hussan's promos.. he would say hateful things, but he had a point about some.

Christian winning the ECW seems about right, Dreamer did have a lengthily reign.. but man they better start having wrestlers like Regal, Benjamin and Kozlov go for the title... coz Christian vs Dreamer is starting to become the next HHH vs Orton.

Kofi Kingston is a talented wrestler, no doubt.. but he's one of the weakest US Champs WWE's had in a while.. they're making him job week after week.. then suddenly he just wins a 6 man match?.. Personally i would of loved to have seen Swagger or MVP take the title to give their feud a little bit of flavour.

Womens title match.. who cares.. WWE title match.. same old thing..

Normally i find Miz annoying, but i liked his backstage segment with Maryse.. see maybe if he toned down a little, he'd be more tolerated.

Maryse lost the title to Mickie, so now Mickie joins McCool in the "divas to win both the Divas title and Womens title" catagory.. yay!

I was disappointed to see Mysterio retain during the IC match, i was also expecting Maria to turn heel and attack Mysterio.. I was disappointed that it didn't happen. Well i guess were seeing that empty headed Maria going for the wrong guys storyline again... wait.. again?... *cough santino cough* ah yes again.

Jeff wins the title.. i dunno, i don't buy it... i don't think that this win is implying that he's staying, although if it was the case i'd be happy. Apparently after the match Punk and Hardy shook hands.. wait what? Punk has been ridiculing Hardy for months, and even did so earlier in the PPV! and now he's shaking hands with the guy?.. that sucks... i hope its going somewhere. Like I said before, I hate CM Punk.. but i love the gimmick.

At 7/27/09 11:39 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: So Jericho's partner turned out to be Big Show, not a bad choice... but still.. was it really worth the hype? but anyway the 2 had quite good chemistry for a team, it's no Jericho and Edge but it'll certainly do, also i like the whole RAW wreslter/SD! wrestler combination as the champs. Big Show seems to have refreshed his look aswell, wearing blue and shaving his moustache part of his goatee.. lol yeah i notice these things a lot. For some reason i have a feeling that this tag title run will turn Big Show back to a babyface.. Jericho will most likely go sour on him down the line, and i think Show will retaliate. I hope so, i like the babyface Big Show.. even though the Happy Giant gimmick is currently filled (Khali).

It didn't get over, it didn't live up to the hype. In fact, I heard Vince hated the opener and slammed down his headset. Something tells me this team may not last too long.

I'm not a CM Punk fan, and i'm not afraid to express it, but i've come around to liking this gimmick, he actually is right about a lot of things that he expresses in his promos.. but he's just such a smug asshole about it.. its great, kinda reminds me of Muhammad Hussan's promos.. he would say hateful things, but he had a point about some.

Like I say, it's like a more mature version of his indy gimmick.

Christian winning the ECW seems about right, Dreamer did have a lengthily reign.. but man they better start having wrestlers like Regal, Benjamin and Kozlov go for the title... coz Christian vs Dreamer is starting to become the next HHH vs Orton.

I think Tommy should at least get a rematch (though maybe a TV one), have him get screwed by outside interference and let that be his next feud. Dreamer has some renewed credibility now to help someone new break out. That's not to say job him back into oblivion, keep him strong, but Tommy is an asset in that he's a veteran guy who can help new talent improve a bit.

Kofi Kingston is a talented wrestler, no doubt.. but he's one of the weakest US Champs WWE's had in a while.. they're making him job week after week.. then suddenly he just wins a 6 man match?.. Personally i would of loved to have seen Swagger or MVP take the title to give their feud a little bit of flavour.

You can't blame Kofi for how he's booked. That title is worthless and it's all because RAW has chosen to book it as worthless. Put it on whoever you want but it won't change a damn thing unless WWE remembers that if someone is a champion they should be booked like one.

Womens title match.. who cares.. WWE title match.. same old thing..

Agreed on both counts. Very sad that I have to.

Normally i find Miz annoying, but i liked his backstage segment with Maryse.. see maybe if he toned down a little, he'd be more tolerated.

I wonder if that's the start of a face turn?

Maryse lost the title to Mickie, so now Mickie joins McCool in the "divas to win both the Divas title and Womens title" catagory.. yay!

So now Lady Taker has to adjust her promos just to make it clear that she was first. Maryse is a terrible worker, so let's use this an excuse to keep her out of the ring.

I was disappointed to see Mysterio retain during the IC match, i was also expecting Maria to turn heel and attack Mysterio.. I was disappointed that it didn't happen. Well i guess were seeing that empty headed Maria going for the wrong guys storyline again... wait.. again?... *cough santino cough* ah yes again.

This was a real head scratcher for me because they've done so much to build Ziggler up and his first title match he loses clean? I was actually surprised at the amount of clean finishes on this show. This was one where a DQ or something probably wouldn't be out of the question.

Jeff wins the title.. i dunno, i don't buy it... i don't think that this win is implying that he's staying, although if it was the case i'd be happy. Apparently after the match Punk and Hardy shook hands.. wait what? Punk has been ridiculing Hardy for months, and even did so earlier in the PPV! and now he's shaking hands with the guy?.. that sucks... i hope its going somewhere. Like I said before, I hate CM Punk.. but i love the gimmick.

I heard the rumor is he's there through at least SummerSlam now. Also I think the Punk thing makes sense because Punk's whole character and point right now is to prove he's better then Jeff Hardy. He can point out that even though he disagrees with Jeff Hardy's lifestyle, but he's man enough to respect him as a competitor. This was something Punk would even do in ROH where he was inarguably at the height of his heel infamy. Unless it was Raven where they would suspend the Code of Honor handshake deal and the other components, Punk always followed the Code of Honor and would bag on or feud with other heels if they didn't (I believe that was the impetus for The Second City Saints vs. The Prophecy feud). So again this fits into what Punk has done currently and in the past in my mind. I think they still want Punk to be a tweener, and not an outright hypocrite heel like Jericho.

Sounds like a pretty mediocre show all around. At least tonight we'll see how the WWE manages to book RKO vs. HHH 5000

At 7/27/09 06:01 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Sounds like a pretty mediocre show all around. At least tonight we'll see how the WWE manages to book RKO vs. HHH 5000

I really hope not...it was a good fued at the very begining if i remember correctly. This is getting really old, i just can't stand to see them fight like theres something to care about. I will give it to orton that he has gotten to the point were he is almost untouchable and needs to fued with someone who will take him to his highest level.

At 7/27/09 06:45 PM, idiot-buster wrote: I really hope not...it was a good fued at the very begining if i remember correctly. This is getting really old, i just can't stand to see them fight like theres something to care about. I will give it to orton that he has gotten to the point were he is almost untouchable and needs to fued with someone who will take him to his highest level.

I am PRAYING that Michaels returns tonight to challenge Orton for the title at SummerSlam. Then we get someone new to face off with him. Have John Cena vs Triple H be a middle-card feud, then have DX reunite to battle Orton and Legacy post-SummerSlam.

Oh wait, that would be enjoyable. Creative can't have that now, can they? :)

At 7/27/09 06:53 PM, Zornkatzu wrote: I am PRAYING that Michaels returns tonight to challenge Orton for the title at SummerSlam. Then we get someone new to face off with him. Have John Cena vs Triple H be a middle-card feud, then have DX reunite to battle Orton and Legacy post-SummerSlam.

Oh, shit, I forgot about the DX reunion. Even when we move away from HHH we still won't move away from him. And even better is the thought that Cena will probably be feuding with HHH so we can have a fatal four way for the title.

At 7/27/09 08:20 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Oh, shit, I forgot about the DX reunion. Even when we move away from HHH we still won't move away from him. And even better is the thought that Cena will probably be feuding with HHH so we can have a fatal four way for the title.

Ugh. The sad thing is, you're probably right on the money...lousy Creative...

Masters is back, and he looks less "jacked up" which is a good sign. Also did anybody hear Cole shout "BOOM SHAKA LAKA!!!" when Shaq attacked Big Show.. i can already see millions of videos on youtube with michael cole remixed with some dance music.

*Sigh* Cena vs Orton....yay....

The only good news is that next week is Triple H for DiBiase & Rhodes. I smell a DX reunion!!

Please don't let me down again Creative :(

JeriShow.......makes for one hell of a team-up..........just not tonight. :P Shaq did a far better job than ZZ Top did last week, and unlike Seth Green, he was able to back up his words. Damn, he's larger than I thought. o_O

Back to JeriShow: This is a blessing in disguise. Why? CHRISTIAN IS STILL AVAILABLE, which means a potential Edge/Christian reunion - which the fans have already gotten behind. Add to that the history Edge has with Show already, and we could see Edge/Christian as the new Unified Tag Champs sometime next year.

I was expecting MVP to fight Swagger (until I realized how the matches were being set up), and then ol' Mr. Muscles returns. Looking better than he did last time, though.

I was looking forward to Henry facing Orton, but I SHOULD KNOW BETTER BY NOW - if it's not one, it's the other.........at least until Shawn returns. >_<a t 7/27/09 06:11 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote:

Message sent to kids by Jeff beating Punk: Do drugs, win titles.

Goddamnit, WWE.

A bad side effect to a good storyline. >_<

At 7/27/09 11:39 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: I was disappointed to see Mysterio retain during the IC match, i was also expecting Maria to turn heel and attack Mysterio.. I was disappointed that it didn't happen. Well i guess were seeing that empty headed Maria going for the wrong guys storyline again... wait.. again?... *cough santino cough* ah yes again.

Please don't compare Ziggy to Santino.

At 7/27/09 02:16 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: I heard the rumor is he's there through at least SummerSlam now. Also I think the Punk thing makes sense because Punk's whole character and point right now is to prove he's better then Jeff Hardy. He can point out that even though he disagrees with Jeff Hardy's lifestyle, but he's man enough to respect him as a competitor. This was something Punk would even do in ROH where he was inarguably at the height of his heel infamy. Unless it was Raven where they would suspend the Code of Honor handshake deal and the other components, Punk always followed the Code of Honor and would bag on or feud with other heels if they didn't (I believe that was the impetus for The Second City Saints vs. The Prophecy feud). So again this fits into what Punk has done currently and in the past in my mind. I think they still want Punk to be a tweener, and not an outright hypocrite heel like Jericho.

He's definitely not a full-blown heel yet; a bit of a douche, but one with a point.

Random drunken thoughts (shut up, you like 'em):

Wow, they were right, Big Show's new look is pretty freakin terrible. Also this partnership with Jericho really does nothing for me. The problem though is look at what the unified tag belts are right now: It's a card to send any two guys to any show you want. If we consider this week a fluke on the "hard split" (and I'm willing to give them that one week does not mean 'omg the walls are tumblin down!!!!') then the tag belts are probably never going to get put on anyone but the most "marketable" guys that can be sent across the boards. No team I can think of, other then a super team like the BOD (Kane and Taker) would fit the bill right now, so I guess I'm living with Jericho and Show for now. It's sad though because in my acknowledging that this is how the tag belts are important, I must also acknowledge that tag team wrestling as I knew it, is dead. Dead and gone. First match I ever saw was a tag match. Damn you Bischoff and Mcmahon.

Wow, RAW is pretty obviously now on the crutch of whatever celebrity is running it for that current week aren't they? Fuck there was little of interest on this show. Chavo and Swaggle again? Whatever...end this fucking shit!!! It's like they don't even try now "Oh, we have a new celebrity this week, that'll make it new and better" Really? REALLY? Just close up shop if that's what you truly believe guys.

I did like that they decided to do a beat the clock sprint tonight. I like the concept in general, but I still think they fucked it up simply because when they announced participants it's like "ok, so this guy won't win, this guy won't win.." and it only comes down to Cena and H as viable. Oh, they tried to swerve us with Henry, but we can't do that can we? THAT'D BE NEW!!!! The only explanation for this that would even be CLOSE to working is for them to say they had to do this because they want to pitch Summerslam like Mania. Where city's bid, so they need to put their best foot forward. Which I would totally understand...for about 5 minutes. Because then I'd look at SD! and go "what's the likely title match there? Hardy and Punk again right? Maybe a three way with Morrison involved?" THAT'S TWO GUYS YOU'VE BUILT UP OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS AND ONE GUY THE CIVILIANS KNOW FUCKERS!!! That's you're SD! main event!!! Is it bad? Fuck no!!! It's been a great story. But my point is that you built something DIFFERENT that is now worthy of being on what is inarguably your second biggest show of the year. This is what pisses me off. It's like they can always find an excuse not to try moving people up on RAW...but everywhere else it's fine.

I had a friend ask me in mid-2001 just after ECW closed the doors (and by this point, WCW is a month dead, so again, eat my dick that ECW never effected you Bischoff) why a WWE monopoly was gonna be bad. At the time I had only vague arguments...now I'm living it and christ I'm scared and I'm sad. Look, I live in New Jersey, bout 20 minutes from the PA border. There's a town about 30 minutes up the road called Bethlehem and an arena on the college campus called Stabler (I'm sure some of you have seen RAW broadcast from there). I have seen shows from all three major companies in that building, I went to my first WWF show there when I was around 9 or 10, a marathon show back in the day where they gave you a house show card and taped like two weeks of tv. I begged to stay for every match. Today? They still run stabler pretty often but I've felt no urge to go. I've missed like 5 shows that have run that building in the last two or three years. I can't imagine in this day and age having the enthusiasm for the product as that little kid did. I can't imagine having the enthusiasm I did for a simple ECW house show in that building as I did in merely 9 years ago. That is sad as shit to me because this business used to mean just about everything to me. We all got our passions, and wrestling was one of mine...it still is...but it seems with every year that passes I find a little less to like about it. Christ that sucks. I WANT IT BACK GODDAMMIT!!! I used to think maybe being there for ECW (the real shit) ruined me...but I don't think so. I think WWE has ruined it for me. They're determined to make me go away...and maybe one day they'll actually do it...I don't like that thought. I don't like the thought of not being a wrestling fan anymore.

I watched shawn michaels turn heel at a raw taping!!!! I watched Summerslam 97 the night before!!! I watched Attitude get born and couldn't imagine not loving this business and these performers for the rest of my life...and what have all these mother fuckers done since? THEY'VE BROKEN MY FUCKING HEART THAT'S WHAT!!!! I used to think of Mick Foley as a personal hero...now he's a whore and shill...I used to think Chris Benoit was everything the business should be...now he's rotting in hell for being a murdering scumbag and why the hell am I still here? Why the hell am I still doing this? Because there's still people I believe in...and they'll probably disappoint me too won't they? Maybe I'm not at the crossroads yet...maybe I looked at that in 07 when I had just about everything I hold dear on the line because of the Benoit Tragedy (I damn near lost my modship for it, and there's probably no way I can justify how dear to me my ability to be a moderator for you guys is to me) and I kept on walking that road as a fan, even though just about every day I had to say "why? This thing seems so sick and twisted". I kept finding a reason to believe...but it's like they don't want us to believe anymore. It's like they don't want us to care, and I hate them for it. I hate them so much for that. How dare you shit on my decision to care you bastards? How dare you shit on that kid that hung around for a five hour show when his dad and brother didn't wanna? But they did it out of love and shit for that kid? How dare you try to invalidate that?

GET IT TOGETHER GODDAMN YOU!!!! Get it together and make your shit better!!!!

Thanks for reading through all that if you did...if you ignored it, hey, I get it. It's a lot of crazy crap from a drunken old school fan. The guy at the comic shop today...he said his version of storytelling in comics is gone...haha, I get it now...my version of wrestling is gone isn't it? I've become a dinosaur in only 10 years haven't I? I'm looking for a product that no longer exists now aren't I? So I guess I can keep trying to find something to cling to, or get off the bus...I guess we all gotta.

Thanks for all you do in this topic guys. It seriously helps keep me following this crazy bullshit.

Lets see if I can articulate my Raw thoughts....
FUCK YOU WWE

Excuse the language, but I'm sure you must agree. Pretty much the best part of Raw will be replaced with Jeremy Piven next week.

First off, the Beat the Clock challenge is a stupid idea. Can anyone tell me why John Cena would deserve a title shot more than Evan Bourne? John Cena took 4 minutes to beat a jabroni, whereas Evan Bourne managed to beat a potential main eventer in Jack Swagger in 3 minutes.

They almost made me believe, too. I almost thought that they'd give Henry the title shot. I almost thought that Miz would finally get one over on Cena in a match situation. It would've solved everything. The Miz could've maybe feuded with Cena with a chance of going over, and we'd have had Henry in the ME picture, as opposed to Cena. But no.

So we're gonna have Trips vs. Legacy next week, which is more depressing considering they're building to have HBK involved in this too. We're gonna have DX vs. Spirit Squad 2.0. Does anyone see Legacy getting anything on DX? And HBK will go from an excellent feud, and the match of the year, to making cock jokes and squashing the future of the company.

I also like to take this opportunity to wish The Brian Kendrick the best in all his future endeavours.

Shaqilicious!

Fuck you Michael Cole.

At 7/28/09 08:58 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Lets see if I can articulate my Raw thoughts....
FUCK YOU WWE

This. Raw just infuriates me. The same old shit in the ME is frustrating beyond words, the whole Chavo/Swoggle shit just makes me angry, and the nonsensical booking and the amount of midcarders getting lost in the shuffle is just saddening. Smackdown and ECW are the only good things going right now, bar Jeff winning the title Sunday.

I also like to take this opportunity to wish The Brian Kendrick the best in all his future endeavours.

Quick point: Guys like Jeff Hardy do hard drugs such as meth and end up getting the WHC, Brian Kendrick only does pot and gets insanely buried? Suck my dick, WWE Wellness. Either give up the ridiculous double standards for the sake of money-making in order to gain some respect or continue being ignorant. It's fucking ridiculous.

Shaqilicious!

Fuck you Michael Cole.

For the love of God, just fucking retire Cole. During the PPV there were at least 4 times during NoC where instead of calling a big spot, he merely went "LOOK IT LOOK IT LOOK IT LOOK IT!" This is coming from a 'veteran' commentator. Seriously, Cole, just call it a day and let a more talented commentator take your spot. Cole and King simply do not work together.

I can't believe that's how they bring back Chris Masters..
Obviously not going to be anything big in his come back.

If he was coming back, should have been Jerichos partner. It's a waste.

Haven't caught Raw yet but from what I've been reading I hear it's a tremendous show offering a lot of fresh feuds going into SummerSlam, not to mention the clever pushing of Brian Kendrick. Excellent.

I think Avie needs a round of applause for summing up (in a drunken angry manner) how many of us have been feeling about the product of today. I totally feel a connection to what he was saying; I became a fan during the attitude era and just got hooked with it and had a lot of fun watching it. Now? It's not as fun as it used to be. In fact some of the things we have to sit through are painful and uncomfortable to watch. It just begs the question: How much more are we going to take?

That being said, I did enjoy some of the matches on Raw last night. Despite Raw using the celebs as a crutch, Shaq was fun to watch. His segment with Jericho at the opening was pretty funny.

I guess Kendrick is the new whipping boy huh?