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At 7/11/09 11:36 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: SD was really good last night. The Rey/Jericho match blew everything away and I would consider it the best TV match of the year so far. Lots of really cool spots and both guys came off looking great. This also plants the seeds for a Ziggler/Rey fued for the IC title. This could also meanthat the WWE has an option to let Ziggler fill in for Edge as Jericho's tag team partner.

It is a nice possibility, and with Jericho having lost that shot at Rey, it makes sense he'll want to hang onto the only title he still has. He could also use Ziggler to strike back at Rey, since Jericho no longer has any sort of "guarantee" of an IC title shot. Yes, I think this would be an excellent direction to go in. But then it's heel vs. heel in that title match at NOC.

wtf was wrong with R-Truth? Is this supposed ot be funny? Because it wasn't.

Yeah...it was just...bizarre.

The fued between Punk and Hardy is really turing out to be a very interesting and compelling story. SD is kicking ass!

Totally! What I also like is this is very much the heel character Punk did in ROH prior to coming to WWE. Someone who believes his lifestyle makes him inherently better then the guys who've abused drugs, or who Punk doesn't see as being men of their word or on his level. This is very very good, and a rare occurence indeed.

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It's pretty cool that they got Seth Green to be the guest GM of Raw. I'm sure he will be promoting Robot Chicken while he is there (which is fine since that show rules) and with good reason. Apparently HHH is going to be in an episode.

From wrestlezone.com:
Seth Green and Matt Senreich, co-executive producer and co-creator of Robot Chicken, will release the Robot Chicken: Star Wars Episode II DVD on Tuesday, July 21 with any paper inside the DVD serving as an early entry voucher for the Robot Chicken Skate Party Bus Tour launching August 1 with details on www.adultswimpresents.com. WWE Superstar Triple H will be part of a sketch in Robot Chicken's season 4.5 premiere on Sunday, July 26 at 11:30pm/ET on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim with a sneak preview exclusively on Monday Night Raw.

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According to the pay-per-view schedule on WWE.com, No Mercy has been renamed Hell in the Cell. The event will take place on October 4th at the Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh. What? thats never going to work in my opinion. Is it going to be all cell matches... not a PPV i will eve buy.

I just could not give me any incentive to go and spend 40$ on a 2 or 3 hour show :::i honesty don't know, i havent bought on in over a year::: I know thay want to give each one a theme or whatever thay want, but i would not care at see another cell match for along time if thats how it's going to go down. Now that's all that's been said on this subject and i know nothing more.

What do you all think?

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I honestly hate the idea of an even being all cell matches. There's no variety in that at all. Cell matches are my least favorite to begin with (with the exception of HITC when done right) so the idea of a PPV having nothing but those kind of matches just seems like a waste to me. Having one cell match is one thing because you can build up to it, but if everyone will be in one then it loses the interest factor.

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Actually guys, I've heard the concept is to be more like NWO, where you would only get the top matches to be Hell In A Cell, not like Lockdown or breaking point where every match is the same gimmick again and again.

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Like Avie said, it's only the main event matches that will take place in a cell, but I still don't like the idea. Hell In A Cell, in my opinion, is the way to blow off a feud in a big way. Having three or four on the same show damages that idea and will no doubt get stale by the last match (even if it is the best of the bunch). Not to mention, with the PG era thrust upon us, there'll be no blood in these matches >:(


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At 7/13/09 12:03 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Actually guys, I've heard the concept is to be more like NWO, where you would only get the top matches to be Hell In A Cell, not like Lockdown or breaking point where every match is the same gimmick again and again.

I don't see why they need to make the names so literal.
No mercy would have been the perfect name for a submission themed PPV.

Hell in a cell was good when 6 men competed in it, as a match with 2 wrestlers I don't find it that interesting.
Maybe I'm just a sucker for big spots but I can not see HHH vs Orton in a cell as a blow off match or otherwise as entertaining.

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You guys might have seen this already but I just caught it for the first time and didn't stop laughing the entire way though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTk2zF9gM 5U


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At 7/13/09 02:58 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: You guys might have seen this already but I just caught it for the first time and didn't stop laughing the entire way though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTk2zF9gM 5U

lol i have this on my iPod
this was actually from a while ago now.. like 3 years ago hahaha


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Raw was pretty good last night. They actually did a decent job with Seth Green who the crowd seemed to really like. We now know that the tag titles will be defended with a partner of Jericho's choosing.

Speaking of crowd response, the way they reacted to Mark Henry was cool to watch.

Poor Chavo.... It seems every time I see the guy on TV I'm compelled to write that. When your doing the job for Hornswaggle on a nightly basis it's time to hang it up and leave.

Next week's guest is ZZ Top. Thats out of nowhere isn't it?

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At 7/14/09 08:37 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Next week's guest is ZZ Top. Thats out of nowhere isn't it?

So was Seth Green lol

I just read reports that WWE have re-signed Nick Dinsmore (or better known as Eugene), though they've signed him only to be a trainer to the younger talent, not to wrestle or appear on tv.


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........And the new World Heavyweight Champion........Dakota Fanning!

I really have to start actually watching that show. *gets shot by every other crew member*

The part at the end when Trips hoisted Seth on his shoulders was awesome. ^_^

On the other hand, Chavo's career going down Shit Creek wasn't. The fact that he hasn't gone to TNA yet surprises me. Why the fuck does he allow this on himself?

Mark Henry's face transition seems to be working far better than his heel days ever did - and it's only been about a month in. Jericho also broke the usual formula again by actually getting into the ring & not chickening out (albeit after reconsidering it several times).

The MVP/Swagger feud is officially underway, and it looks to be a promising setup.

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At 7/14/09 08:37 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Raw was pretty good last night. They actually did a decent job with Seth Green who the crowd seemed to really like. We now know that the tag titles will be defended with a partner of Jericho's choosing.

I really liked too that they're going with my suggestion of using this as an excuse to turn Edge face and give him a readied made program when he comes back. Jericho even used a lot of the verbiage I suggested in the way he slammed Edge, and the announcers did a good job putting over the severity of his surgery and creating the seeds of a "hero's journey" for Edge.

Speaking of crowd response, the way they reacted to Mark Henry was cool to watch.

If you haven't watched ECW, you've really missed the great development that Henry has been making. He may turn out to be the star that Vince had hoped he would be when he signed him back in 96. It's certainly an excellent case for taking your time with some guys and really making an investment in developing them until they're absolutely ready.

Poor Chavo.... It seems every time I see the guy on TV I'm compelled to write that. When your doing the job for Hornswaggle on a nightly basis it's time to hang it up and leave.

I guess the money must be good that he doesn't take off for TNA and puts up with it. Or maybe he's hoping that he'll get traded back to Smackdown! or ECW at some point and then maybe he can actually get a little bit of a push.

Next week's guest is ZZ Top. Thats out of nowhere isn't it?

I think that's the point though, to keep it crazy random and unpredictable.

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I hope they do more with Santion other than have him take up space in the GM's office soon. The dude is too funny to be left off the show.

While ZZ Top is a random choice it doesn't suprise me. The have been in the stands at WWE events for years. Not a year goes by without seeing them at ringside at least once. I just wonder if they will subject us to a live song.

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At 7/15/09 10:18 PM, idiot-buster wrote: WWE Hall of Famer Superstar Billy Graham is selling his WWE Hall of Fame ring on eBay.

That's just so sad to me. Really really sad

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/spo rt/wrestling/2536396/Superstar-Billy-Gra ham-sells-his-WWE-Hall-of-Fame-ring-on-e Bay.html

It appears to be more of an angry gesture than an attempt to get a quick cash fix. I mean, he had a job with WWE until recently, so he can't be too short on cash, can he? He doesn't have three ex-wives like Flair...

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At 7/17/09 12:34 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: That's just so sad to me. Really really sad

I was thinking the same thing.

I am eager to see what the situation between CM Punk and Jeff Hardy is going to be like tonight. I am really enjoying their program together.

I also want to see if Jericho will announce who his partner is or will he leave it a suprise for NOC.

I hope R-Truth is back to normal...

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At 7/17/09 03:47 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I also want to see if Jericho will announce who his partner is or will he leave it a suprise for NOC.

Honestly I think they should leave it a surprise. Really build it up, have Jericho approach people, people approach Jericho, or just have Jericho be like "I picked the partner, he's super awesome, but I'm not telling you parasites because now we have the advantage because Legacy can't anticipate us since they can only watch tapes of me". Use the psychological and logical reasoning of keeping it a mystery so Jericho and the mystery man have the competitive edge.

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Holy crap! Heel Punk promo's are awesome! Avie was right. I think I'll like this change. Punk cut deep too. SD is off to a great start.

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At 7/17/09 08:16 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Holy crap! Heel Punk promo's are awesome! Avie was right. I think I'll like this change. Punk cut deep too. SD is off to a great start.

Took you long enough! When people talk about how great Punk was during his indy days, its not an exaggeration.

I will say this, I'd like to see Punk win a match every once in a while since he's THE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION! Here's hoping he can get a decisive victory over Jeff at Night of Champions.

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Don't you just want to kick Ricky Ortiz in the balls?

At 7/17/09 03:47 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I hope R-Truth is back to normal...

It appears he's just doing 'the other gimmick' on the side for shits & giggles.

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At 7/18/09 02:05 AM, Assi9 wrote:
At 7/17/09 03:47 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I hope R-Truth is back to normal...
It appears he's just doing 'the other gimmick' on the side for shits & giggles.

As bad as the gimmick is, I really don't blame him for trying to do something different. If this can help him differentiate him from all the other midcarders, then I'd consider it successful. Not sure if I could handle this gimmick at a main event level though...

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At 7/18/09 07:36 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: As bad as the gimmick is, I really don't blame him for trying to do something different. If this can help him differentiate him from all the other midcarders, then I'd consider it successful. Not sure if I could handle this gimmick at a main event level though...

I cought some of smackdown for the first time in almost a year and it did seem very good to say the least. The oppening segment was ok and could have been worked on much more, just the basic stuff. If Edge ever returns i see a possible great feud of Jerico vs. Edge now in JR's blog a few days before this he hinted at this happing at wrestlemania 26. This could be a potential feud of the year if they give both men full creative control over the feud otherwise i can see it being one of thoes Cena/show battles that they keep pushing, but no one cares about.

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SD put on a solid show last night. Punk and Morrison are always good in the ring together and the promos that were done by Punk and Jericho was great.

Was it me or did Layla look...well...ugly? Maybe it was her makeup or something but when the camera got in close I was just like..eh...

At least they are doing something with Ortiz. An annoying heel works better than an annoying face.

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Who do you think will be Jerichos partner come NOC?
I don't want to see the straps on the trainwreck that is legacy, I really don't think it would help them at this stage. I can see them splitting sometime between or during NOC and the next PPV.

As for Jerichos partner..
the heels on smackdown seem out, ziggler and punk already have title matches.
on raw.. miz wouldn't be out of place but to contradict myself I dont think he is at that level and at the same time it would be a step backwards.

A returning Chris Masters is seeming like the best foreseeable option but how many people will remember him and will it get much of a reaction?

I am hoping that it is someone not on the current roster, someone from the past who will get that crowd reaction and hopefully have a run till summerslam.
Really though, no idea who, any ideas?

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At 7/19/09 04:45 AM, Shaun wrote: Who do you think will be Jerichos partner come NOC?

Right now, Chris Masters returning as Jericho's partner seems to make the most sense for me.


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I'll save my thoughts on who Jericho's partner will be until my predictions on PPV weekend.


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At 7/19/09 04:45 AM, Shaun wrote: Who do you think will be Jerichos partner come NOC?

I think Ted will turn on Cody and Orton and join Jericho. Eh, not very likely but it could happen. I didn't even relize that Masters was officially back with the WWE. Some might remember him though not enough to get a big reaction.

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I'm hoping for Christian to be Jericho's partner.

Have Christian vs Dreamer open the show, Dreamer retains the ECW title and Christian snaps after the match (Thus turning heel). Once the tag match comes around, Christian is introduced as Jericho's partner (They've teamed up in the past so it wouldn't be new), and they retain the tag titles. This of course would mean that once Edge returns (As a face), he would feud with Jericho and Christian.

It turns Christian heel, and it gives him something else to do instead of just being on ECW, and it furthers the Edge/Jericho feud due to the history between all three men.

With that said, there's like a 0% chance of this happening.

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