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At 7/1/09 11:48 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: My only concern is about Bourne. I think Vince and Co. would be very tempted to job him out since they always seem to favor the bigger guys. Then again they could use him as Raw's attention getter due to his high flying antics.

Like I said, they had Rey over there, and they have an athletic guy like Kofi there they do nothing with. I just see Bourne getting crushed.

Regal and Benjamin add some new heels to go after the ECW title. Right now there are two faces in Dreamer and Christian fighting over the championship. Once their fued is over no matter who wins they will need heels to fued with.

Yep, but I think this is something where Benjamin needs to get a real push, really build that dude up and see what you have there. But Regal needs to be used as more of the veteran guy that you can put a young guy you want to strap a rocket to into a feud with so he learns how to work.

Golddust is probably there for some comedy unless they actually give him a chance to be serious in the ring. If nothing else he'll be the veteran job guy for the younger talent to beat up on.

I think probably the veteran guy with some possible name cache left that will again be getting beaten by the young talent but also be comedy. This roster will be a real challenge for the ECW writing team to work with.

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Moving to the Raw roster:
Gail Kim

I'm glad Gail's back on RAW where she originally was during her 1st run, she didn't really smackdown all that much. One thing I'm not all into about her going to RAW is the fact that she's on the same show as the Divas title again.. I dunno why but when i compare the Divas title to the Women's Title.. the Diva's title just so much weaker..

Alicia Fox

See, I knew it! i even wrote it on here a couple of months back.. Edge and Alicia Fox would not even talk to eachother since Fox was drafted to smackdown.. well she wasn't getting much action on SD! since she was always just watching McTaker (lol that's a good one DannyIsOnFire) wrestle, so maybe she can go gunnin for the Divas title on RAW.. i saw her wrestle on ECW once, she's not that bad.. the chick can pull off an impressive Axe kick.. also i know it isn't a big deal or anything but i hope she starts straightening her hair again soon... i just dont know how she could pick up guys when she has the same hairstyle as a french poodle.. (did Fifi just pop into anybodies head just now? lol)

Jack Swagger

I knew this was gonna happen.. but i thought it would of been until at least next year's draft, Swagger was pretty much the HHH of ECW, he was always involved with the title picture and was in every main event on the show.. ah well this is a good thing, and i do believe he deserves the push, specially if he's aiming to team with orton.

Evan Bourne

Just like Swagger, I'm glad he's getting the push too. I'd really love to see him chase the US title, I feel he could have some amazing matches with Kofi Kingston.

Mark Henry

I'm glad he's here too, I don't think Henry deserves all the slack he gets.. he is a good worker, he isn't as fragile as other big guys, what just because he isn't agile enough? i don't know.. anyway he seemed to be playing the babyface role during his match with orton, and did actually manage to get a good pop during his match. i wouldn't mind seeing a babyface Mark Henry run.. just one where he doesn't job so much that is.. also where is this gonna leave Tony Atlas? I bet he'll just quietly disappear..

Moving to the SmackDown roster:
Matt Hardy

While I am disappointed that he didn't last on RAW for too long (i dunno why but i always thought he suited the red brand more).. I like this move it has definately made SD! more watchable out of this, and not to mention he have both Hardys on the same show again, that is if Jeff is sticking around.. But i hope he doesn't become like Big Show or Kane and have a habit of jumping from brand to brand.. cause over the past year he's moved around quite a bit.

Finlay

Honestly I'm not very satisfied with this move.. don't get me wrong, I like finlay.. good wrestler and all but i dunno, i felt he made a good fit in ECW, and i reckon there were more worthy wrestlers getting the SD! spot (Christian!) but all in all he is a good wrestler, so i guess he is worthy of the trade.

The Hart Dynasty - David Hart Smith, Tyson Kidd & Natalya

YES! best trade in my opinion, I was dissapointed that DH Smith never got to debut on smackdown during the draft last year, and good to see Natalya getting an opportunity at the Womens title, this move is definately gonna make things better for the New Hart Foundation. If you noticed, The Hart Dynasty weren't involved in any feuds or storylines or anything.. they were.. just there. I'm glad they've been traded, and to smackdown which was the right way to go!

Moving to the ECW roster:
Shelton Benjamin

I don't like this move, pure and simple.. Shelton i feel is actually too good for ECW, don't go pushing him down by putting him on the C show, plus i was never into his first ECW run.. but seeing as they have made this trade, at least slap the ECW title around his waist, he needs it.

Goldust

Goldust was getting alot of camera time on RAW which was good, but now they've put him on ECW so he might get even more recognition which is pretty good, also if he brings up the whole Ass Cream bit with Christian, I'll worship the man lol

William Regal

Not a bad trade, his push on RAW really fell to the wayside after his suspension, so this could be good to bring his rep up. Also remember when Regal used to trash ECW those years ago?.. lol

Brie & Nikki Bella

Meh.. they didn't fit in RAW so i guess this was the best place to put them.. Also judging by ECW this past week, it looks like Nikki (the bitchy one) is turning heel. So a bella v bella fued would be an ok and slightly confusing feud to watch.


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At 7/2/09 01:19 AM, Random-Her03 wrote:
Moving to the Raw roster:
Gail Kim
One thing I'm not all into about her going to RAW is the fact that she's on the same show as the Divas title again.. I dunno why but when i compare the Divas title to the Women's Title.. the Diva's title just so much weaker..

Because it kinda' is.....

Alicia Fox
See, I knew it! i even wrote it on here a couple of months back.. Edge and Alicia Fox would not even talk to eachother since Fox was drafted to smackdown..

.....wait, was she that 'wedding planner' chick that Edge was making out with during the Edge/Vickie angle? I'll be damned.......maybe Creative didn't think anyone would notice.

Mark Henry
anyway he seemed to be playing the babyface role during his match with orton, and did actually manage to get a good pop during his match. i wouldn't mind seeing a babyface Mark Henry run.. just one where he doesn't job so much that is.. also where is this gonna leave Tony Atlas? I bet he'll just quietly disappear..

Somehow, putting "Mark Henry" & "babyface" in the same sentence just doesn't ad up.....

Moving to the ECW roster:
Goldust
Goldust was getting alot of camera time on RAW which was good, but now they've put him on ECW so he might get even more recognition which is pretty good, also if he brings up the whole Ass Cream bit with Christian, I'll worship the man lol

I don't even want to know. o_O

Brie & Nikki Bella
Meh.. they didn't fit in RAW so i guess this was the best place to put them.. Also judging by ECW this past week, it looks like Nikki (the bitchy one) is turning heel. So a bella v bella fued would be an ok and slightly confusing feud to watch.

Hopefully they'll be wearing contrasting attire, or else even Stryker & the other guy (forgot his name) will get confused.

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Y'know, matches like CM Punk vs. Edge are why I really wish I could get WGN around here, or that WWE would start streaming Superstars on Hulu. That's the kind of stuff I really like to see!

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At 7/2/09 11:54 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Y'know, matches like CM Punk vs. Edge are why I really wish I could get WGN around here, or that WWE would start streaming Superstars on Hulu. That's the kind of stuff I really like to see!

go here

they haven't uploaded superstars yet, but they will soon enough.


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At 7/2/09 12:22 PM, Assi9 wrote: Somehow, putting "Mark Henry" & "babyface" in the same sentence just doesn't ad up.....

dude 2 words..

SEXUAL CHOCOLATE
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At 7/2/09 12:22 PM, Assi9 wrote: Somehow, putting "Mark Henry" & "babyface" in the same sentence just doesn't ad up.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzQJsa0aT C0


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At 7/3/09 10:52 AM, Random-Her03 wrote:
At 7/2/09 12:22 PM, Assi9 wrote: Somehow, putting "Mark Henry" & "babyface" in the same sentence just doesn't ad up.....
dude 2 words..

SEXUAL CHOCOLATE
hahahaha

*beats Random-Her03 over with a Mick Foley-style barbed-wire bat*

At 7/3/09 11:07 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzQJsa0aT C0

*proceeds to use same barbed-wire bat on DannyIsOnFire; decides to whack self in face with it instead*

MY GOD........I thought you guys were kidding..........I'M GOING TO HAVE NIGHTMARES TONIGHT. O_O

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At 7/3/09 04:15 PM, Assi9 wrote: MY GOD........I thought you guys were kidding..........I'M GOING TO HAVE NIGHTMARES TONIGHT. O_O

You didn't know about that? Damn dude you missed out. Despite his thing with Mae Young I actually liked that gimmick. He was great in that role. Too bad he was involved with so many crappy storylines.

I'm looking forward to SD. I avoided looking at the spoilers so I'm ready for anything they throw at me! Well...Not anything exactly but you get the idea.

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At 7/3/09 05:50 PM, Outlaw88 wrote:
At 7/3/09 04:15 PM, Assi9 wrote: MY GOD........I thought you guys were kidding..........I'M GOING TO HAVE NIGHTMARES TONIGHT. O_O
You didn't know about that? Damn dude you missed out. Despite his thing with Mae Young I actually liked that gimmick. He was great in that role. Too bad he was involved with so many crappy storylines.

Oh thank god.........I thought you meant that was his CURRENT gimmick - I thought he didn't look quite as big in that vid. Seeing the replay of him decimating Orton Monday was great, though. :P Aw, looks like I missed out that night; I was dreading the aftermath of the Trump thing, so I didn't bother watching it - that and I was too tired.

The main event was well-done, and the rematch holds some promise - if they add a stipulation to it.

Whether I like Michael Jackson or not, I respected the Morrison/Long bit.

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At 7/3/09 10:47 PM, Assi9 wrote: The main event was well-done, and the rematch holds some promise - if they add a stipulation to it.

I think they will, I think played right they'll get their main event SS match here if Jeff isn't disappearing off the roster. But I think by NOC we should probably know where Punk stands just because my fear with something like this always is if you milk it too long, when you do pull the trigger the bullet has fallen out of the gun. Still, very good work here.

Whether I like Michael Jackson or not, I respected the Morrison/Long bit.

My only issue with it was Morrison left without Long giving him a freakin answer!!! Unless I missed it, Morrison basically said "hey, I won a non-title match so I should be facing the winner of the title match" and Long said "Let's talk about Michael Jackson and do schtick" so they discuss Michael Jackson and do schtick. Morrison mentions it again, and Long tells him to leave and he does. The fuck is that?

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first of all, Assi9.. i'm sorry about partially introducing you to Sexual Chocolate, but you would of found out some time or another lol

At 7/3/09 10:47 PM, Assi9 wrote: The main event was well-done, and the rematch holds some promise - if they add a stipulation to it.

I liked it too... though i thought it was kinda dumb how Hardy overselled his "eye injury" and J.R was full like "oh my.. what just happened to hardy?" then when he revealed that his eye was fine J.R's like "oh my god, hardy was just faking it! he pulled a fast one on punk!".. man even kids wouldn't believe that.

Whether I like Michael Jackson or not, I respected the Morrison/Long bit.

It was a good homage to Jacko.. though Long doesn't really have that much rhythm, despite him always dancing around and all lol.. also it got a chuckle out of me when morrison came back and said "forgot my glasses..". Even though Morrison was a big time heel just a couple of months ago, he's pretty good at playing the babyface role.


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I'm a bit suprised that they seem to be pushing Ziggler over R-Truth. Or maybe this is the beginning of a fued between the two.

Main event was awesome. All 4 involved did a really great job in that match and I thought the end was fitting. Jeff is calling Punk's bluff and made him get pinned in the process.

I do hope Morrison gets his chance. His segment with Long was good but yeah, he didn't get an answer!

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Bad, bad news.

Last night at a WWE house show in San Diego, Edge was injured in a match with Jeff Hardy. About 5-minutes into the match, Edge went down with what looks to be a torn Achilles tendon. The injury looked to come off of him simply planting his foot wrong. The match was immediately stopped, and EMT's came to the ring to help Edge, who apologized to the fans before being taken to the back.

If the injury is a torn Achilles tendon, it will require surgery and a long recovery time. WWE is currently looking for a way to get the tag titles onto Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase. The company is also looking at footage shot for this week's Smackdown, to see if there is a spot in the footage where they can claim the injury took place, if the torn Achilles tendon is the actual injury.

Credit: Wrestingobserver.com

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/1 09258/Edge-Injured-At-WWE-House-Show.htm

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Dmn. Edge is one of the best things going for the WWE right now and if he's going to be out for a while that only hurts things... :(

The info for the upcoming WWE DVD release "The Rise & Fall Of WCW" has become available and is as follows...

The chapters in the Rise & Fall of WCW DVD will be:

Jim Crockett Promotions
Georgia Championship Wrestling
Mid Atlantic Championship Wrestling
Black Saturday
The Expansion
Crockett sells to Turner
Greatest Talent in the World
New Management
Bill Watts Era
Eric Bischoff hired
Hulk Hogan Arrives
Nitro debuts
NWO
Cruiserweights
Bill Goldberg
Rating streak
Celebrities
Goldberg vs. Hogan
Mistakes Begin
Vince Russo
Corporate Merger
Vince buys WCW
Legacy of WCW.

The matches featured on the DVD package will include the following:

Ric Flair vs. Magnum T.A., Sting & Lex Luger & Barry Windham vs. Flair & Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Dusty Rhodes vs. Windham, Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat in Chicago, Rock & Roll Express vs. Midnight Express, Midnight Express vs. Southern Boys, Steiners vs. Sting & Lex Luger, Sting vs. Vader, Rick Rude vs. Sting, Flair vs. Hulk Hogan from Orlando, Flair vs. The Giant, Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Dean Malenko, Syxx vs. Eddie Guerrero, Guerrero vs. Malenko, Chris Jericho vs. Juventud Guerrera, Steiners vs. Kevin Nash & Scott Hall, DDP & Karl Malone vs. Hogan & Dennis Rodman, Goldberg vs. DDP and Booker T vs. Lance Storm

I'll probably get this DVD when it comes out.

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The Kane/Khali feud should be beneficial for the both of them - both having their careers shit on by Creative recently.

At 7/4/09 02:22 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:
At 7/3/09 10:47 PM, Assi9 wrote: Whether I like Michael Jackson or not, I respected the Morrison/Long bit.
My only issue with it was Morrison left without Long giving him a freakin answer!!! Unless I missed it, Morrison basically said "hey, I won a non-title match so I should be facing the winner of the title match" and Long said "Let's talk about Michael Jackson and do schtick" so they discuss Michael Jackson and do schtick. Morrison mentions it again, and Long tells him to leave and he does. The fuck is that?

Guess they're waiting on just the right moment - they might be avoiding another Punk/Morrison feud considering they're acting like the first one never existed. I'd rather see a Hardy/Morrison feud over it anyway.

At 7/4/09 04:11 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: first of all, Assi9.. i'm sorry about partially introducing you to Sexual Chocolate, but you would of found out some time or another lol

No biggie. I'm now tempted to drown myself in alcohol, though...... >.<

At 7/3/09 10:47 PM, Assi9 wrote: The main event was well-done, and the rematch holds some promise - if they add a stipulation to it.
I liked it too... though i thought it was kinda dumb how Hardy overselled his "eye injury" and J.R was full like "oh my.. what just happened to hardy?" then when he revealed that his eye was fine J.R's like "oh my god, hardy was just faking it! he pulled a fast one on punk!".. man even kids wouldn't believe that.

Yeah, that was stupid - no one in that audience bought that.

Even though Morrison was a big time heel just a couple of months ago, he's pretty good at playing the babyface role.

I'm actually a tad surprised at the transition, considering how well he established himself as a douche.

At 7/4/09 12:00 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Bad, bad news.

Last night at a WWE house show in San Diego, Edge was injured in a match with Jeff Hardy. About 5-minutes into the match, Edge went down with what looks to be a torn Achilles tendon. The injury looked to come off of him simply planting his foot wrong. The match was immediately stopped, and EMT's came to the ring to help Edge, who apologized to the fans before being taken to the back.

If the injury is a torn Achilles tendon, it will require surgery and a long recovery time. WWE is currently looking for a way to get the tag titles onto Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase. The company is also looking at footage shot for this week's Smackdown, to see if there is a spot in the footage where they can claim the injury took place, if the torn Achilles tendon is the actual injury.

What, IS THERE A FUCKING CURSE GOING AROUND LATELY!? This was to be an excellent angle with him & Jericho, and THIS HAPPENS..... ARGHBARGE! >:(

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Fuck. It sucks that Edge is injured. He's so entertaining, and having him and Jericho make the tag titles important again was going to be awesome. Argh, and the eventual split between Y2J and him would've made for some interesting TV too.

I don't know how to take the thing that they're looking for footage to blame the injury on, if it's true. I suppose it's good to give the fans something tangible, but I can't see how they'd use it to put someone else over. That only really works with a heel attacking a face.

Part of me hopes they keep him as an on air personality while he recoups, because he's an awesome promo.

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At 7/4/09 02:05 PM, Assi9 wrote: The Kane/Khali feud should be beneficial for the both of them - both having their careers shit on by Creative recently.

It makes me happy that I don't tend to have off Friday's anymore meaning I have to tape SD!. That means I can watch this feud with the "fast forward" button firmly pressed :)

Guess they're waiting on just the right moment - they might be avoiding another Punk/Morrison feud considering they're acting like the first one never existed. I'd rather see a Hardy/Morrison feud over it anyway.

I can appreciate that, but then don't bring it up. Don't have Morrison in the office asking for the shot. Or if he's going to be in there looking for the shot, why can't Long just send him off with a "I'll take that under advisement playa" or something similar? I can appreciate they are grooming Morrison, and I appreciate that they're educating the audience to see him as a future contender, but I just felt the non-answer thing was quite weak.

I liked it too... though i thought it was kinda dumb how Hardy overselled his "eye injury" and J.R was full like "oh my.. what just happened to hardy?" then when he revealed that his eye was fine J.R's like "oh my god, hardy was just faking it! he pulled a fast one on punk!".. man even kids wouldn't believe that.
Yeah, that was stupid - no one in that audience bought that.

I hope not, but again that's the WWE influence now of the announcers have to act stupid and like their not in on the obvious. I think it's much better to play something like that for what it is: Jeff trying to give Punk a taste of his own medicine. But may I point out, both as an objective observer and as a mark for Mr. Punk that WE DO NOT KNOW THAT HE'S FAKING THIS!!! Seriously, this could turn out where Punk is actually hurting and like the Shawn Michaels turn for the initial run of DX, or Bret Hart at the final part of his WWE tenure, or more recently Chris Jericho, Punk turns because the fans didn't trust him, and they believed in the scummy jerk off guy a heck of a lot more. Plus...I just don't think CM Punk would take a short cut or fake an injury...he's certainly NEVER done that in his career before.

<_<
>_>

Also Jeff Hardy is a dangerous druggy and I demand he be piss-tested before NOC lest he hurt Punk even more, who's with me? YES!!!!

I'm actually a tad surprised at the transition, considering how well he established himself as a douche.

I think it's like Finlay, you go to a new brand, they feel like they've "restarted" you.

What, IS THERE A FUCKING CURSE GOING AROUND LATELY!? This was to be an excellent angle with him & Jericho, and THIS HAPPENS..... ARGHBARGE! >:(

I know! PWInsider is in fact reporting that this IS a torn achilles tendon and depending on the severity he could be out as long as January. We knew Edge was working banged up but there's no word yet if this is a cause and effect deal. Certainly a terrible break for what could have been something really interesting. But they could salvage it by having Jericho and Mysterio keep their issue going a little longer, and have Jericho turn Edge face by continuing to blast him as clumsy, stupid, and whatever else to say Edge cost them the championship, and he isn't on Jericho's level, which could dovetail nicely into a Mania match if Edge winds up being out for the maximum.

As for the tag belts themselves, the easiest thing would be to vacate them and either hold a tournament which could end at NOC (which I don't see them putting that much effort into it) or doing a 4-way elimination bout at NOC (a 4-way seems likely, elimination maybe not so much), I say a 4-way so that all four of the major teams (THD, CT, Legacy, and TC) are featured and they show this as more of a division. Personally? I'd either put the belts on Legacy or The Hart Dynasty myself, probably the Dynasty unless they want both Rhodes and Dibiase to turn face. Plus, I want those belts on SD! where a tag wrestler is the booker man and might treat them with some respect.

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At 7/4/09 11:09 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
At 7/4/09 02:05 PM, Assi9 wrote: The Kane/Khali feud should be beneficial for the both of them - both having their careers shit on by Creative recently.
It makes me happy that I don't tend to have off Friday's anymore meaning I have to tape SD!. That means I can watch this feud with the "fast forward" button firmly pressed :)

I'm sure everyone here has that same fear. :P But, at least Khali is on a similar size level again.

Guess they're waiting on just the right moment - they might be avoiding another Punk/Morrison feud considering they're acting like the first one never existed. I'd rather see a Hardy/Morrison feud over it anyway.
I can appreciate that, but then don't bring it up. Don't have Morrison in the office asking for the shot. Or if he's going to be in there looking for the shot, why can't Long just send him off with a "I'll take that under advisement playa" or something similar? I can appreciate they are grooming Morrison, and I appreciate that they're educating the audience to see him as a future contender, but I just felt the non-answer thing was quite weak.

Yeah, considering that's USUALLY how they have Long do it.

I liked it too... though i thought it was kinda dumb how Hardy overselled his "eye injury" and J.R was full like "oh my.. what just happened to hardy?" then when he revealed that his eye was fine J.R's like "oh my god, hardy was just faking it! he pulled a fast one on punk!".. man even kids wouldn't believe that.
Yeah, that was stupid - no one in that audience bought that.
I hope not, but again that's the WWE influence now of the announcers have to act stupid and like their not in on the obvious. I think it's much better to play something like that for what it is: Jeff trying to give Punk a taste of his own medicine. But may I point out, both as an objective observer and as a mark for Mr. Punk that WE DO NOT KNOW THAT HE'S FAKING THIS!!! Seriously, this could turn out where Punk is actually hurting and like the Shawn Michaels turn for the initial run of DX, or Bret Hart at the final part of his WWE tenure, or more recently Chris Jericho, Punk turns because the fans didn't trust him, and they believed in the scummy jerk off guy a heck of a lot more. Plus...I just don't think CM Punk would take a short cut or fake an injury...he's certainly NEVER done that in his career before.

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Also Jeff Hardy is a dangerous druggy and I demand he be piss-tested before NOC lest he hurt Punk even more, who's with me? YES!!!!

True; he's making it out to look like an actual serious injury so far.....it's hard to say how this is all gonna' go - one of the more well-done ideas from Creative for a change.

What, IS THERE A FUCKING CURSE GOING AROUND LATELY!? This was to be an excellent angle with him & Jericho, and THIS HAPPENS..... ARGHBARGE! >:(
I know! PWInsider is in fact reporting that this IS a torn achilles tendon and depending on the severity he could be out as long as January. We knew Edge was working banged up but there's no word yet if this is a cause and effect deal. Certainly a terrible break for what could have been something really interesting. But they could salvage it by having Jericho and Mysterio keep their issue going a little longer, and have Jericho turn Edge face by continuing to blast him as clumsy, stupid, and whatever else to say Edge cost them the championship, and he isn't on Jericho's level, which could dovetail nicely into a Mania match if Edge winds up being out for the maximum.

FUCKING JANUARY!!??!!??!!?? BULLSHIT!!!!!

This is about as bad as it gets for a storyline-hampering injury. ARGH.

Shit.

As for the tag belts themselves, the easiest thing would be to vacate them and either hold a tournament which could end at NOC (which I don't see them putting that much effort into it) or doing a 4-way elimination bout at NOC (a 4-way seems likely, elimination maybe not so much), I say a 4-way so that all four of the major teams (THD, CT, Legacy, and TC) are featured and they show this as more of a division. Personally? I'd either put the belts on Legacy or The Hart Dynasty myself, probably the Dynasty unless they want both Rhodes and Dibiase to turn face. Plus, I want those belts on SD! where a tag wrestler is the booker man and might treat them with some respect.

Well, it'd be the best way to actually prove to TNA that they still have a TT division, and that just because they have fewer tag teams doesn't mean it's dead. SOMETHING THE WWE NEEDS TO DO TO STAY AHEAD IN THAT DEPARTMENT. I mean, 3 show brands & 4 (5 before Edge's injury) major tag teams, versus ONE show & at least 7 teams, if I'm not mistaken. BIG DIFFERENCE THAR.

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Has there been any offical word on whether Jeff has resigned or not? If he's not going to stay with the company I'm guessing that are using him to get Punk over a a champion.

If Edge is going to be out until January and if Jeff leaves the WWE I think they will seriously consider a Morrison/Punk fued for the belt. Jericho can be added to the mix as well.

As far as the issue with the tag belts, I guess it depends on how honest they want to be. If they come out and say Edge was hurt they could make Jericho give up being tag champ or make him find a substitute partner. From what I hear WWE wants Legacy to have the belts anyway so they will probably do a tournamant or something.

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At 7/4/09 11:09 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

(THD, CT, Legacy, and TC)

The Hart Dynasty, Cryme Time, Legacy, who are TC? My initial thought was Too Cool...


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At 7/5/09 02:32 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote:
At 7/4/09 11:09 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
(THD, CT, Legacy, and TC)

The Hart Dynasty, Cryme Time, Legacy, who are TC? My initial thought was Too Cool...

The Colons? Although TC as an abbreviation is stretching it a bit I think.

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At 7/5/09 04:59 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:
At 7/5/09 02:32 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote:
At 7/4/09 11:09 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
(THD, CT, Legacy, and TC)

The Hart Dynasty, Cryme Time, Legacy, who are TC? My initial thought was Too Cool...
The Colons? Although TC as an abbreviation is stretching it a bit I think.

Yeah, it took me a minute to figure it out, too.

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At 7/5/09 07:42 PM, Assi9 wrote: Yeah, it took me a minute to figure it out, too.

Well, I got it pretty much straight away. I mean, if you're talking about tag teams in the WWE, there's not so many to list, right? Maybe it says something bad about the Colons that people forget they exist though...

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At 7/5/09 09:33 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Has there been any offical word on whether Jeff has resigned or not? If he's not going to stay with the company I'm guessing that are using him to get Punk over a a champion.

None yet but I'm seeing where people seem to be acting under the assumption now that he has resigned or will resign. Right now he's doing probably the best work of his career and has really impressed since returning. Not to mention he's making a lot of money after some personal tragedy. My advice to Jeff would be do this, collect some checks, have some fun, and when you're in a better place financially and not as featured or having as much fun? Then take the break. You've only got a finite number of years to wrestle anyway, especially when you consider the risks he takes. But still, I don't know anything for sure, I think NOC will tell us for sure since last I knew his contract was finishing up either at that show or at the Bash.

If Edge is going to be out until January and if Jeff leaves the WWE I think they will seriously consider a Morrison/Punk fued for the belt. Jericho can be added to the mix as well.

There's also things you can do with Matt, and Taker is headed back by SS they hope. So they can always go there in an emergency but damn I want that built to as that could be a Mania or just before it type program. If Edge does wind up out for the maximum (and again, we don't know anything for sure beyond this is a tear), then I absolutely see this storyline having no possibility to conclude as anything but a full heel turn for Punk to fill the Edge sized void left on that side. I believe Morrison will get an opportunity anyway (and well he should) but I would like them to more firmly establish Punk as a top guy so that way Morrison will undoubtedly get rub by working with and potentially beating him. There's also a lot of developing mid-carders on the brand that can be elevated too. That's the nice thing about SD! really, they're actively working towards developing their talent and making new stars. Which is something you need to do, it's never a good time to have a top guy injured, but a deep roster will take some of the sting out because you've got options.

As far as the issue with the tag belts, I guess it depends on how honest they want to be. If they come out and say Edge was hurt they could make Jericho give up being tag champ or make him find a substitute partner. From what I hear WWE wants Legacy to have the belts anyway so they will probably do a tournamant or something.

I like the idea of vacating them and doing an honest to God tournament so the division gets some more focus and they can spin a feud or two out that might not have to do with the belts but I just don't think WWE will put that kind of focus or attention on those belts. I see them doing some kind of a quick match up to address the problem either on PPV or on the TV this week. There is an interesting option though I just thought of in the let Jericho get a substitute partner thing. What if Teddy tells Jericho he can pick anyone on the roster to be his partner, or he forfeits the belts and Jericho picks Punk? Jericho could rationalize it as who better to pick then the world heavyweight champion, and Jericho can say once he's the IC champion they can rule SD! in the way he and "that loser Edge" (yes, I'm still hopeful for Jericho and Edge to have a program when Edge heals) never could. But Punk is the reluctant partner (at least at first) saying he's only willing to do it because he respects the history of the tag titles and he respects Teddy Long's authority (remember, this story hinges on the idea that Teddy allowed ANYONE to be Jericho's choice and would honor it regardless of whether or not they were a face). This could add a whole new dimension to the Punk storyline.

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That would be an interesting idea but I have a feeling they will just give the belts to Legacy as soon as they can. Most likely tonight. Remember that the Million Dollar Man is going to be the GM tonight, so he is going to pull in his son's favor.

So we are getting Cena vs. HHH on Raw tonight. My guess is that HHH wins and goes on to face Orton again. I'd like to see Miz get involved and cost Cena the match so that they can continue their fued but I doubt that will happen.

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At 7/6/09 10:55 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: That would be an interesting idea but I have a feeling they will just give the belts to Legacy as soon as they can. Most likely tonight. Remember that the Million Dollar Man is going to be the GM tonight, so he is going to pull in his son's favor.

So we are getting Cena vs. HHH on Raw tonight. My guess is that HHH wins and goes on to face Orton again. I'd like to see Miz get involved and cost Cena the match so that they can continue their fued but I doubt that will happen.

I had a quick glance over the spoilers (as this show was taped with last weeks for some reason) and it dosen't seem like a bad show overall. I know one of the matches is Kofi/Bourne which will probably be the match of the night by far.


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At 7/6/09 10:55 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: That would be an interesting idea but I have a feeling they will just give the belts to Legacy as soon as they can. Most likely tonight. Remember that the Million Dollar Man is going to be the GM tonight, so he is going to pull in his son's favor.

Oh gee, how ironic...... </obvious sarcasm>

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At 7/6/09 11:00 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: I had a quick glance over the spoilers (as this show was taped with last weeks for some reason) and it dosen't seem like a bad show overall. I know one of the matches is Kofi/Bourne which will probably be the match of the night by far.

I think it's because they're touring Australia and other international spots right now. SD! was also taped in advance as well. So the tag title situation won't be resolved until next week. So enjoy the last two Edge matches you'll get for the foreseeable future.

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Well I guess the Colons are out of the tag title hunt huh?

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