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At 6/15/09 08:33 PM, l0vemetal wrote: So, who do we think Vince "sold" RAW to?

...JBL? Hah

I'd say Ric Flair, but he's broke, so it can't be him. Right?

In my heart I'm hoping for Bischoff.

I have a guessbut I'll wait for the announcment..

Trump?! WTF? I guessed Eric Bischoff....

Commercial free? Um...ok. Does Trump have nothing better to do? This is weird.

The WWE title match was decent. Big Show was kicking some ass. I thought he was going to win it for a little bit.

Okey this better just be one of there stupid ideas and not the real thing here... I'm shocked none of this leaked out or anything. Well the commercial free part did, but that would never lead you to think this would happen...Man i have to say they are desperate right now...

O_O

That was a bit unexpected. I guess once he got his feet wet he didn't want to get out of the money pool......

After finishing watching tonight, I admit every match was good. I'm still a bit dumbfounded by Trump's appearance, though; I thought it'd be either Trips or, even though I'd never wish this on any of us, JBL. I thought Trump was done after WM23; anyone know anything else about this whole thing yet?

At 6/16/09 12:23 AM, Assi9 wrote: After finishing watching tonight, I admit every match was good. I'm still a bit dumbfounded by Trump's appearance, though; I thought it'd be either Trips or, even though I'd never wish this on any of us, JBL. I thought Trump was done after WM23; anyone know anything else about this whole thing yet?

It screams short sighted attempt to grab media attention.
Trump will not be a long term option, probably ending in another trump vs vince showdown and vince "winning back" RAW.
Raw isn't worth watching, this doesn't help.

The ppv type match on a commercial free Raw screams desperate to me. I can't imagine the Trump thing lasting too long. Eventually Trump will end up being too busy to be a part of the WWE so they will have to come up ith something else.

At 6/16/09 08:28 AM, Shaun wrote: It screams short sighted attempt to grab media attention.
Trump will not be a long term option, probably ending in another trump vs vince showdown and vince "winning back" RAW.
Raw isn't worth watching, this doesn't help.

It actually is in the news that trump bought raw and it's getting some good media :::i guss you could say that::: But this and next week is just screaming desperation to draw a larger audience. We will se the results of this next week and see if this storyline will help out or will just be forgotten by the media.

My over view of raw last night was not that good. Well i can't remeber most of the show but the ecw championship match was short and well not that good. The ten man battle royal was very predictible. Thats about all i remember from the show... that alone says alot.

I thought the Smackdown! bits of this show were the best really. The WWE title situation did nothing for me going in, and continues to do nothing for me now.

Trump buys RAW? Might be interesting, we'll see, it'll get them some pub, but it's still the same creative team so can we really expect anything different here.

The World Title match was good work wise, and they continue to develop Punk the right way here and continue to keep him a tweener they could go either way with. I look forward to what he'll do with Jeff Hardy. By far the World Title is the most interesting.

Dreamer winning was good I think, it freshens up the ECW title picture and gives us some unique options, but that was not a good match and probably telegraphs he won't keep it much longer, and really probably shouldn't.

IC Title match was great, everything else was predictable or "whatever" for me for the most part.

I know that the sole point of this is to generate a buzz around the WWE and get them some publicity, but these are only ever temporary. This just takes wrestling away from the wrestling fans (lets face it, Vince is the biggest mark of the lot), and puts it in the hands of someone who doesn't give two shits about wrestling.

Trump's presence will get WWE some mainstream attention for a few weeks, but the fact that nothing about actual wrestling will have changed means that no new fans will be attracted. People will tune in to see what the deal with is, but they won't stick around, because chances are they don't like wrestling if they weren't going to watch Raw anyway.

I hope Vince will take the opportunity next week to really showcase all the finest points of his company, and hopefully convince some people that maybe wrestling isn't the worst thing in the world, because if it's as bad as Raw has been in recent memory, then, if anything, more people are going to be turned off permanently.

At 6/16/09 11:14 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: I know that the sole point of this is to generate a buzz around the WWE and get them some publicity, but these are only ever temporary. This just takes wrestling away from the wrestling fans (lets face it, Vince is the biggest mark of the lot), and puts it in the hands of someone who doesn't give two shits about wrestling.

That's true, but it can be beneficial. Vince has built his success off exploiting pop culture to his own advantage.

Trump's presence will get WWE some mainstream attention for a few weeks, but the fact that nothing about actual wrestling will have changed means that no new fans will be attracted. People will tune in to see what the deal with is, but they won't stick around, because chances are they don't like wrestling if they weren't going to watch Raw anyway.

I think they won't stick around because the product is so boring and repetitive on RAW these days. When you have a good show on the air, it makes sense to do things like this angle with Trump, it sure worked with Tyson. But the problem here is if you do get lapsed fans to come back and check it out, and/or the general public to come look, what will they find? They'll find essentially the same product they left years ago. That's the problem, this sort of thing gets the attention they want and can use, but there has to be something beyond that initial hook to make people stay. They've done nothing to do that, RAW has no new main eventers elevated, no really hot programs going, there's just nothing there beyond the Trump situation and I just don't see them building anything new up while it's happening. So yeah, this is something that won't work out like they want, not because the hook is bad or there's anything inherently wrong with what they're attempting, it's because they've done nothing to address the real issue.

I hope Vince will take the opportunity next week to really showcase all the finest points of his company, and hopefully convince some people that maybe wrestling isn't the worst thing in the world, because if it's as bad as Raw has been in recent memory, then, if anything, more people are going to be turned off permanently.

Can't see it happening, because in Vince's mind this is the way he should be pushing and promoting shit. He has no clue how to fix it, and truth be told there is no quick overnight fix. For him to showcase the best parts of his company, he'd have to run Smackdown! in RAW's time slot :)

Credit: F4WOnline.com

WWE Hall Of Famer Gerald Brisco, best known to present-day WWE fans as one of Vince McMahon's on-air "stooges" (alongside Pat Patterson), suffered from what was at first believed to be a stroke this past weekend.

Updated reports show that Brisco, 62, suffered a blockage in an artery in his neck and is also suffering from heart issues. Brisco will undergo surgery tomorrow.

I wish him a speedy recovery.

The ratings are in for this week's special "Three-for-All" RAW. According to data compiled by Neilson Media Research, the three-hour June 15th edition of WWE RAW drew a 3.7 cable rating.

If you remove the first "bonus" hour, RAW's typical timeslot (the final 2 hours) did a very strong 3.93 rating.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Hour 1: 3.30 rating (4,561,000 viewers)
Hour 2: 3.75 rating (5,720,000 viewers)
Hour 3: 4.10 rating (6,091,000 viewers)

Does Avie work for WWE or something?

At 6/17/09 12:32 PM, Twilight wrote: Does Avie work for WWE or something?

Not to the best of my knowledge. He's just got a PWI Elite account.

At 6/17/09 12:32 PM, Twilight wrote: Does Avie work for WWE or something?

Its a well known fact that Avie is actually Joey Styles >_>

Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but WWE blew it big time with Miz on Monday. Miz comes out from under the ring during the Battle Royal, and there's a perfect opportunity to have him eliminate Cena, and score yet another "victory" over him. So what does WWE do? They allow Miz to be thrown out of the ring by Cena and HHH. If HHH was going to win the match anyways, why not let Miz throw out Cena?

Oh, right... Had that happened, we wouldn't have gotten the Super Cena v Super Trips face-off.

At 6/17/09 04:24 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Oh, right... Had that happened, we wouldn't have gotten the Super Cena v Super Trips face-off.

They didn't even get the super face off. HHH pushed Cena out straight afterwards from behind. But I agree, your idea would have been FAR superior.

At 6/17/09 04:37 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote:

At 6/17/09 04:24 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Oh, right... Had that happened, we wouldn't have gotten the Super Cena v Super Trips face-off.

They didn't even get the super face off. HHH pushed Cena out straight afterwards from behind. But I agree, your idea would have been FAR superior.

Agreed times three. I had teh same thought when I saw it unfold on Monday. It would have really helped out the storyline between Cena and Miz while Big Show still goes after Cena. It was the perfect timing for it and to The Miz's credit he looked totalyl capable of pulling it off right up until he ran at them full speed.

Haven't watched ECW yet but apparently there's gonna be a Championship Scramble for the title.

Since Raw's gonna be showing Trips/Orton in a Last Man Standing match six days before the PPV, it would surely make sense for them to announce a Scramble match for the WWE Championship as well. Have Trips/Orton end in some sort of dodgy finish (interference by Show, followed by Cena, followed by Miz) and let the five of them have it out at The Bash.

And finally since I really like the scramble matches I'd throw one in for Smackdown too. Probably including Edge, Jericho and Mysterio, as well as Hardy and Punk. Not sure how you could book that one though since Hardy/Punk has already been announced. Maybe Teddy could come out and say since Raw and ECW are doing it, Smackdown is going to follow suit and show them how it's done.

All speculation of course, but I'd love to see the return of the scrambles.

At 6/17/09 04:24 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Its a well known fact that Avie is actually Joey Styles >_>

SHHHHHH! Vince will fire my ass from .com if you say that out loud! Oh fuck...

Oh, right... Had that happened, we wouldn't have gotten the Super Cena v Super Trips face-off.

Which again shows you the biggest problem with RAW right now: they do not have anybody fresh anywhere near the top and they're doing nothing to make it happen, where conversely SD! has been building the pushed properties they got out of the draft. I don't want to hear the excuse "well, MITB gave us an excuse to put the belt on Punk and elevate him whenever we were ready" screw that, RAW doesn't need to have guys like Miz or MVP in the main events right now, or even a month from now, but they should be doing better at laying the groundwork for them to move beyond their current station at some point. But why do that when you can push the exact same people you've pushed for the last five years or so to such monstrous success. AmIrightguys?

In the past we used to blame HHH for keeping guys down but I think in thise case it has got to be Vince on this one. He doesn't seem to be able to see far enough ahead for days when his top stars aren't drawing becuase fans have seen them face off against the same people over and over again. Bringing up new talent is the only way to keep the product fresh but he seems to only want to work with what kinda works now instead of trying new things and building characters.

A couple of releases today.

From WWE.com: World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of Raw Superstar Sim Snuka as of today, June 19, 2009. WWE wishes Sim the best in all future endeavors.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/10579908

From WWE.com: World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of SmackDown Superstar Candice Michelle as of today, June 19, 2009. WWE wishes Candice the best in all future endeavors.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/10579966

I'm surprised that Candice managed to hang around for so long.

At 6/19/09 06:36 PM, pepeatumi wrote: I'm surprised that Candice managed to hang around for so long.

Myself too, they'd really done everything they could with her awhile ago, and I'm surprised she even got to return from the last injury.

The Morrison / Edge match was excellent tonight; but then again, we all know Morrison knows how to put on a match.

Came across ProWrestlingSCOOPS!.com on my Internet travels, and there was something about Kurt Angle implying he's returning to the WWE; GOOD, because his TNA crap was getting extremely stale.

Also saw a pic of Rey Mysterio WITHOUT his mask; a lot more regular-looking under there than I thought. I sincerely doubt anybody would be able to pick him out of a crowd. However, there is an advantage to that - he probably doesn't have a lot of paparazzi problems that way. :P

Continuing to scour the aforementioned website, yup, Ken Kennedy IS apparently set to hit TNA. Umaga hasn't been confirmed yet. Rob Van Dam has also mentioned that he & TNA have been talking recently - THAT should be interesting. On the other side of things, Roxxie Laveau (not under that name, exactly) has turned in her resume to WWE.

I KNEW I saw Lashley's head on a TNA commercial a while ago. Hopefully things will go better for him there.

At 6/19/09 09:49 PM, Assi9 wrote: Came across ProWrestlingSCOOPS!.com on my Internet travels, and there was something about Kurt Angle implying he's returning to the WWE; GOOD, because his TNA crap was getting extremely stale.

I heard that. He was on the Bubba The Love Sponge Show and mentioned that his TNA deal ends in August, and that he's been discussing a new deal with Dixie Carter, though nothing is guaranteed as of now. Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing him go back to WWE, particularly if its on RAW.

At 6/19/09 11:13 PM, pepeatumi wrote: I heard that. He was on the Bubba The Love Sponge Show and mentioned that his TNA deal ends in August, and that he's been discussing a new deal with Dixie Carter, though nothing is guaranteed as of now. Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing him go back to WWE, particularly if its on RAW.

I think Angle is probably just trying to work TNA a little for a better deal. Unless Kurt has given up the MMA talk, and gone through some kind of rehab to get his "issues" under control, WWE will not take or touch him. Given TNA's track record on the second subject, I tend to think they haven't pressed the issue, and given Angle's feelings on the subject I doubt he independently has done anything soooo...

I really enjoyed the Edge/Morrison match. They did a great job and put one one hell of a match. That was my favorite match of the night but the Jeff/Jericho match as well as the Punk/Rey match were also very well done.

As for the releases.. Doesn't suprise me in the least. Snuka wasn't doing anything and Candice was too injury prone.

At 6/20/09 11:37 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I really enjoyed the Edge/Morrison match. They did a great job and put one one hell of a match. That was my favorite match of the night but the Jeff/Jericho match as well as the Punk/Rey match were also very well done.

The Morrison match was great, but WWE still badly needs to give the fans more of a reason to care about this guy, other then just cutting promos on heels and having good matches. I do think they're starting to turn that corner finally but the sooner the better here. The guy has the goods, but unless the really make the fans connect with him, all the tools in the world won't matter worth a damn. I also agree on the other two matches. Sure in the end they're there to basically advance the Jericho/Rey issue with the main event adding a little more to the "is Punk a heel or isn't he?" situation. RAW creative should really be taking notes on what SD! is doing these days.

As for the releases.. Doesn't suprise me in the least. Snuka wasn't doing anything and Candice was too injury prone.

With Snuka I understand he got the blame on Taker's scary bump at Mania (he was cameraman) some people think Snuka fucked it up cause he was supposed to catch Taker, other people think that Snuka probably saved Taker's life. I tend to fall into the second camp based on my viewing of the thing. I think Taker just did not get the vertical leap going like he should have and was going to fall directly on his head so the best anybody could do was act as as much of a crash pad as they could there. But right or wrong, Snuka ate the blame, never got used again, and thus released.

Also Mark Canterbury (Phinneas Godwin/Mideon)'s son got released yesterday as well.

At 6/20/09 11:54 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Also Mark Canterbury (Phinneas Godwin/Mideon)'s son got released yesterday as well.

I didn't evn know he was there.. I didn't even know Mideon had a son. I just hope his gimmick wasn't running around naked like his Dad.

Tomorrow will be weird. Watching Raw with no breaks. I guess I'll have to pick what I think will be boring segments to get a bathroom break if need be.