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At 6/4/09 08:56 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: The way I see it just because five of the eight titles are being defended isn't a bad thing. PPV's are meant for the big matches, aka the title matches. The gimmick of NoC is that ALL the titles are defended. Not to mention between Extreme Rules and NoC you've got The Bash which will probably feature less championship matches, in preperation for "Vengeance 2.0".

Actually no, the gimmick is that ALL matches are title matches. Just like Extreme Rules is "every match has an 'extreme' stip" I recall at least one set of tag belts not being defended on the show last year, which would negate the idea that it's all belts on the line.

Orton was working, Mexican TV has a lot more of that in their "news" programs then here in the states.

As far as Masters...unless he's dramatically improved, put him on RAW or ECW. I already have to suffer Khali on SD! I don't want any more shite workers on that brand potentially taking tv time away from more deserving acts and talents.

At 6/5/09 06:47 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: I recall at least one set of tag belts not being defended on the show last year, which would negate the idea that it's all belts on the line.

Actually, both sets of tag titles were defended. JoMo and The Miz were in one match and Hardcore Holly and Priceless were in the other. In the first night of champions, all nine titles were on the line, and last year all eight were on the line (cruiserweight was disbanded by this point I think). This year will likely feature all championships like the two previous.

At 6/5/09 07:17 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Actually, both sets of tag titles were defended. JoMo and The Miz were in one match and Hardcore Holly and Priceless were in the other. In the first night of champions, all nine titles were on the line, and last year all eight were on the line (cruiserweight was disbanded by this point I think). This year will likely feature all championships like the two previous.

I could have sworn there was 1 title that wasn't defended...or maybe I'm thinking that because they were just creating the Diva's Title then?

Due to unforeseen surprise circumstances, I didn't quite catch all of SD tonight; I did see the majority of the Edge / Mysterio match, which was quite good - but then again, most matches with Mysterio are generally good.

Something I have to point out about Jericho: One thing I'm beginning to respect about him is the fact that he doesn't seem to use the '4 Moves of Doom' formula in his matches. He uses his signatures, but he does them in seemingly different orders every match. I have to give him credit on that.

For those who caught TNA last night, has Taz revealed himself fully to the TNA audience yet? Was I correct on a warm welcome by them?

Back to the WWE side, again: Where did Ezekiel Jackson go off to? I have high hopes for the guy as a possible main eventer at some point, but then I saw THE Ballsac Kendrick going around looking for someone else to hide behind......

At 6/5/09 08:19 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Recent photos of Masters show him to be certainly a lot smaller than he was back when he was getting canned for Wellness. Perhaps there's a chance he's learnt his lesson, improved his skills and matured in the time since then, but we'll have to wait and see.

Here's a side-by-side comparison to show how much he has gone down since his previous WWE run.

O_O Yeah, that DEFINITELY proves he was pumping 'roids at the time. I'm just a little shocked Vince gave him a whopping THIRD chance. He must like the guy.

At 6/5/09 08:19 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Recent photos of Masters show him to be certainly a lot smaller than he was back when he was getting canned for Wellness. Perhaps there's a chance he's learnt his lesson, improved his skills and matured in the time since then, but we'll have to wait and see.

perhaps it could be the reason they're giving him another run.

At 6/6/09 03:17 AM, Assi9 wrote: Back to the WWE side, again: Where did Ezekiel Jackson go off to? I have high hopes for the guy as a possible main eventer at some point, but then I saw THE Ballsac Kendrick going around looking for someone else to hide behind......

Jackson got drafted to ECW. I haven't been able to watch that show for a while due to work so I'm not sure if he's shown up on it yet.

SD was really good last night. We got some competitive matches that were really enjoyable to watch. Jericho vs R-Truth was good, CM Punk vs. Umaga kicked ass, and the main event was awesome. The opening bit between Edge and Jeff was also well done and of course when you give Jericho the mic he can't help but be good.

Overall SD was better than Raw this week. I think it did a better job in getting people ready for the PPV.

At 6/6/09 11:28 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Jackson got drafted to ECW. I haven't been able to watch that show for a while due to work so I'm not sure if he's shown up on it yet.

Nope, he's yet to appear. I'm sensing the old F'E'd very soon.

SD was really good last night. We got some competitive matches that were really enjoyable to watch. Jericho vs R-Truth was good, CM Punk vs. Umaga kicked ass, and the main event was awesome. The opening bit between Edge and Jeff was also well done and of course when you give Jericho the mic he can't help but be good.

Overall SD was better than Raw this week. I think it did a better job in getting people ready for the PPV.

Yup, there wasn't a single match on Smackdown (barring the Diva one which I skipped) that I didn't enjoy. Even Khali was tollerable. In my honest opinion Smackdown will continue to be the A brand at least until the 2010 draft, when Raw can take everyone who's been made to look great on Smackdown, and have them job out to the usual suspects.

Apparently Vince is going for a different image with all three of his brands. Raw is the sports-entertainent brand, featuring more skits and what not rather than actual wrestling. SD is the "wrestling" brand with longer, technical matches and ECW is the televised development territory young up-and-comers can learn the tricks of the trade and establish themselves with the crowd.

Zeke and Candice Michelle are the only 2 who have yet to appear on TV since the draft, and i have heard that Candice is returning very soon. I was really looking forward to seeing a singles run for Zeke, but then again he isn't released yet or anything so maybe we'll just give it some more time.

But I do like that they're giving everyone in the supp draft a go, Ziggler, Ryder, Smith, hell even seeing Helms as a backstage announcer is good enough for me. A handful of wrestlers that were involved in the supp draft last year barely got used.. Big Daddy V, Trevor Murdoch, DH Smith, Chuck Palumbo, Matt Striker had like one match on RAW before going back to ECW, Super Crazy i think never had a match on ECW and was moved to SD! without any explanation..

Here's hoping they do keep Zeke on the payroll; it'd be a very stupid move if they didn't, when he's clearly future Title holder material. I see him getting the ECW Championship very soon.

Ah, I knew there was a few matches I was forgetting: The Punk / Umaga match was great, but I have to wonder why they're 'letting Umaga speak' now all of a sudden - something I see as a horrible move. Jamal (that's his real name, right?) IS UMAGA; screwing with the gimmick he's established his career on over all these years reeks of suck.

At 6/6/09 12:00 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Apparently Vince is going for a different image with all three of his brands. Raw is the sports-entertainent brand, featuring more skits and what not rather than actual wrestling. SD is the "wrestling" brand with longer, technical matches and ECW is the televised development territory young up-and-comers can learn the tricks of the trade and establish themselves with the crowd.

Hm, maybe that's the method to his madness.....

At 6/6/09 12:27 PM, Random-Her03 wrote: But I do like that they're giving everyone in the supp draft a go, Ziggler, Ryder, Smith, hell even seeing Helms as a backstage announcer is good enough for me. A handful of wrestlers that were involved in the supp draft last year barely got used.. Big Daddy V, Trevor Murdoch, DH Smith, Chuck Palumbo, Matt Striker had like one match on RAW before going back to ECW, Super Crazy i think never had a match on ECW and was moved to SD! without any explanation..

What happened to BDV & Palumbo? Palumbo wouldn't surprise me if he got axed again, but BDV had been on somewhat of a roll.

Already seen where Murdoch went...........JETHRO HOLIDAY!? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH HIM!?

At 6/6/09 12:00 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Nope, he's yet to appear. I'm sensing the old F'E'd very soon.

The mania number was down, but not down as much as some feared. A few developmental guys are gone, and Kennedy is gone, so it makes me wonder if that's going to buy some of these folks some time. Personally though, some of this TV time going to the "woo woo" man Zack Ryder could be given to developing Jackson and seeing if he's worth anything really.

Overall SD was better than Raw this week. I think it did a better job in getting people ready for the PPV.

I won't buy the PPV sunday, but I might buy the DVD solely for Jericho/Mysterio, and Edge/Hardy. That is how good the build for those two bouts has been. SD! has done a very good job making fans care about this PPV, and I like that they have kind of protected Punk here in proving he can beat Umaga when he most likely won't be winning Sunday I'd think (unless the idea is to put Punk and Umaga on an even playing field win wise).

Yup, there wasn't a single match on Smackdown (barring the Diva one which I skipped) that I didn't enjoy. Even Khali was tollerable. In my honest opinion Smackdown will continue to be the A brand at least until the 2010 draft, when Raw can take everyone who's been made to look great on Smackdown, and have them job out to the usual suspects.

Yeah, or they can just pick off from SD! throughout the year if they really feel like it, and I could see that happening if MyNetwork tv collapses and SD! goes on an even lower penetration network.

Apparently Vince is going for a different image with all three of his brands. Raw is the sports-entertainent brand, featuring more skits and what not rather than actual wrestling. SD is the "wrestling" brand with longer, technical matches and ECW is the televised development territory young up-and-comers can learn the tricks of the trade and establish themselves with the crowd.

At 6/6/09 07:40 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Personally though, some of this TV time going to the "woo woo" man Zack Ryder could be given to developing Jackson and seeing if he's worth anything really.

I do agree, but i actually like Ryder, he's not a bad wrestler, his gimmick pisses people off which is good for him, being that he's a heel. Also his finisher is pretty creative.

At 6/6/09 10:52 PM, Random-Her03 wrote: I do agree, but i actually like Ryder, he's not a bad wrestler, his gimmick pisses people off which is good for him, being that he's a heel. Also his finisher is pretty creative.

His gimmick is INSIPID, it's going to do nothing for him and it's a complete one trick pony idea. Also, how is he even really that much of a heel? I don't know what he is other then a decent, not phenomenal worker, with a horrible gimmick that does nothing for him. Miz used to be horrible, but then he really found himself as a heel and was able to really put his personality across and be in a pushed team with a very good in ring worker who could help him get better at the work aspect.

Miz is the type of heel that does annoying heat right, and pisses the crowd off the proper way. If the crowd hates you and wants to pay to see you get beat, congratulations, you are an effective heel and shall draw money. If you're a heel, and the crowd hates you and wants you to go away, congrats, you fucked up and will never draw a dime.

At 6/7/09 01:41 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: His gimmick is INSIPID, it's going to do nothing for him and it's a complete one trick pony idea. Also, how is he even really that much of a heel? I don't know what he is other then a decent, not phenomenal worker, with a horrible gimmick that does nothing for him. Miz used to be horrible, but then he really found himself as a heel and was able to really put his personality across and be in a pushed team with a very good in ring worker who could help him get better at the work aspect.

Miz is the type of heel that does annoying heat right, and pisses the crowd off the proper way. If the crowd hates you and wants to pay to see you get beat, congratulations, you are an effective heel and shall draw money. If you're a heel, and the crowd hates you and wants you to go away, congrats, you fucked up and will never draw a dime.

to be honest i see a lot of miz in zack ryder
when miz first debuted he was the annoying guy with his own personal quote (HOO-RAH!), which he would constantly shout every week, he would act like a tool and would constantly be shouting in the ring. (still does kinda..), but most of all, nobody took him seriously..

Give time for Ryder to blossom on his own, to me, Miz doesn't fit into the main event elite yet, but then again thats only my opinion, a lot of other people think otherwise coz he's up in a high place now.

I wouldn't consider Miz a main event guy just yet but he has been playing a very effective heel and may very well get a chance to work a decent program with Cena. I think a run with the U.S. Title would help him a lot since he would be a hated heel that people would want to see lose the belt.

The Zack situation kinda reminds me of X-pac. He got hated alright but it was the "get off my tv and stop wasting my time" kind of heat.

EXTREEEEEEEEEEEME MODE ACTIVATED. It's time for The D-Lucks Extreme Rules Predictions! As you know to the EXTREEEEEEEEME by now, winners in EXTREEEEEEEEME BOLD, match types/stips in EXTREEEEEEEME ITALICS.

1. Santino/a Marella vs. Vickie Guerrero (Train Wrec- uh, I mean, Hog Pen Match for the title of 'Miss Wrestlemania')

First off let's get one thing straight, this match will be a waste of PPV time and will be absolute carnage to watch, most likely inducing more than a few cringes and embarrassing spots. Now that's out of the way, initially I thought they'd have Vickie win this through Chavo/Matt Hardy/Regal shenanigans, leading to the final end of the Santina angle. But then I realised that a man can dream, and realised that the Santina angle will be running for at least another few months while some members of the "WWE Universe" still mark for it. And to cater to these fans, this match will simply be an excuse for them to see Vickie covered in slop for about 5-10 minutes. Santino/a will regain his/her 'title', and this nonsense will continue to be dragged on. Yes, it was amusing at first, but this angle has run its course, in my opinion. Still, that probably isn't what Creative thinks, and this train wreck will merely be a vehicle for some Vickie humiliation. I wish it wasn't and that it will be the end of the Santina angle, and it may well be, but frankly the 'Vickie humilation' outcome is much more likely.
Santino to win. Sigh. I used to many characters for this.

2. United States Champion Kofi Kingston vs MVP vs Matt Hardy vs William Regal (Fatal Four Way Match)

My reasoning for this is very simple; Kofi won the title a mere 6 days ago. If they intend to push Kingston, I highly doubt that he'll be dropping the title so soon. MVP's just had the title and could potentially be in the main event picture within a few months or so if he plays his cards right, and Matt and Regal are lackeys for Vickie at this point who have been shown to be unable to co-exist with each other. So really, not a lot else needs to be said about this match, Kofi frankly isn't losing the title after 6 days, a US run better than his IC run should benefit him in the not too distant future. And if he does lose it, I shall chew my own testicles.
Kofi to retain.

3. Umaga vs CM Punk (Samoan Strap Match)

This one's actually really hard to call. Both men will benefit from the win tonight, it's a question really of who needs it more. On one hand you have Umaga. Now with the ability to speak English, Umaga has been shown as an effective monster against Punk and with his newfound promo possibilities, Umaga has the doors open to re-establish himself as a major player. On the other hand, you have CM Punk, the man who holds the MITB briefcase and holds a DQ victory over Umaga at Judgment Day, and now as of Friday's SD, a pinfall victory over Umaga following a GTS. It could be argued that the SD match could have lost their PPV match some heat, but that can't be changed now, and the two should have a good match regardless. However, as for the winner, it should be the one who needs the push more.
Hence, I feel Punk needs the win here. At the end of the day Punk IS the one with the MITB briefcase and needs to be seen as a credible threat to the champions. Prior to Umaga's initial attack on Punk, this was starting to emerge as the case as Punk had at least one pinfall win over Edge. Jobbing Punk out to Umaga consistantly will not help his credibility, and with Umaga's new promo abilities he can easily regain some heat with a quick promo and win over someone else on next week's SD.
So really, Umaga can afford the loss more than Punk can in my eyes, although if the result ends up having Umaga win to push him further as a monster then I won't be surprised.
CM Punk to win, though.

4. Big Show vs John Cena (Submission Match)

In a nutshell, anyone who legitimately thinks that Big Show will be given the win here has some sort of mental handicap. The angle is basically, "Oh no! Cena can't lock in the STF on THAT MAMMOTH Big Show! How will he ever OVERCOME THE ODDS in a Submission Match?!"
It's essentially the same old crap, crap that they've done numerous times in the past to boot; Triple H being unable to lock in the Pedigree on Khali in their brief feud last year is a prime example. Guess who won their match (Clue, he wasn't over 7ft tall).
Basically, due to the No DQ stips in the match, Cena will use something like a chain for 'extra reach' to lock in the STF and make Show tap. End of. Also I seem to remember Cena locking in the STF on Khali a year or two ago with no real problem. Hmm.
Blah blah, Cena OVERCOMES THE ODDS again and wins. Yawn.

5. Intercontinental Champion Rey Mysterio vs Chris Jericho (No Holds Barred Match)

Firstly, Jericho's sneak attack on Mysterio last week on SD was a thing of beauty. It was just phenominally well done. Anyway, considering Rey won their last encounter clean, and the fact that the angle has become about Rey's mask, it's clear these two things will play some part tonight. Jericho can't get DQ'd, so he'll likely want to beat Rey down enough so he can remove the mask. Rey, naturally, wants the opposite, as well as to retain his title. Really though, with Rey's popularity he doesn't need the belt; he could easily lose it to Jericho tonight and not lose a step. If Jericho won the belt a whole variety of new feuds will be open to him after he is done with Rey; feuds with guys like Morrison and R-Truth spring to mind. Basically, I feel Jericho wins the belt tonight, leading to another attempt to remove the mask which will be thwarted by someone making the save (Jeff? Truth? Morrison, at a stretch?)
Jericho to win the championship.

6. ECW Champion Christian vs Jack Swagger vs Tommy Dreamer (Hardcore Match, if Dreamer doesn't win he leaves the WWE.)

The inner mark in me would LOVE to see Dreamer win tonight. It would be an amazing moment if he were to do so. However, when you consider Dreamer's postion in the company as well as his past, really you know tonight is his last match. I hope I'm wrong, but the evidence points too heavily to the contrary. Dreamer has always been the guy who puts the younger talent over, in the original ECW he never wanted to win the championship as he felt it would take the edge off his character, hence why he only held the title for about 30 minutes. He said on The Rise and Fall of ECW, "I was actually pissed off. I wanted to go my entire ECW career without winning titles. The only reason I won titles is because guys left."
When you consider that this is who Dreamer is, why would he suddenly want the championship now? And that's why, unfortunately, tonight is most likely Dreamer's swansong. Dreamer may even do all the work, destroying Swagger with weapons before Christian pins Swagger for himself, continuing Christian's pattern of winning title matchs through questionable tactics. Or Dreamer gets pinned himself to 'pass the torch', as it were.
Either way, I feel Christian will retain tonight, leading to Dreamer's retirement. It's been a hell of a ride, Tommy, good luck in your 'future endeavours'.
Christian to retain.

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EXTREEEEEME PREDICTION CONTINUATION

7. WWE Champion Randy Orton vs Batista (Steel Cage Match)

You've already heard my ranting and raving about how Orton has been booked as a weak, pathetic champion, so I'll spare you that on this occasion. With that rant in mind, however, Orton really needs a win tonight. And I feel he will be given one, but as per usual, it'll be down to shenanigans from Rhodes and DiBiase, and even then Orton will probably 'only just' escape with Batista only inches behind. No, I don't see Dave looking at the lights at the match's conclusion, though I can always dream and hope. I know Orton isn't the most dazzling of wrestlers, but he can at least be booked strongly if he's the goddamn WWE Champion.
Anyway, before I start ranting again, I do see Orton winning, but only through shenanigans and a narrow escape because that's how he's unfortunately been booked.
Orton to retain in weak fashion.

8. World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs Jeff Hardy (Ladder Match)

Now this is more like it. Edge and Jeff have had consistently good to great matches with either each other or other competitors on SD (Edge/Rey on Friday is a great example), and I don't see this match as being any different; this really could be the show stealer. Edge pretty much summed up what I feel will happen in the match a few weeks back on SD when he said something along the lines of "While Jeff is always the daredevil, putting his career on the line to be the human highlight reel, making sure the match isn't forgotten, I always win."
And really, I feel that's exactly how the match will play out tonight; Edge and Jeff do some ladder brawling, Jeff hits some insane spots before making a 'miscalculation' (which always seems to be the way Jeff is booked to lose in these kinds of matches), leading to Edge retaining the title. There are far more potential challengers for Edge than Jeff when it comes to who holds the championship, with Punk, Rey, and Morrison amongst the guys who Edge can carry out extended programs with. Jeff on the other hand, only really has Jericho and Umaga to feud with over the belt.
So with all that said, Edge to retain after a good, good match.

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Right, and there's my EXTREEEEEEEEEMELY long predications done for this month. And as usual, any EXTREEEEEEEEME thoughts on my predictions?

My predictions are probably going to be late, so here's only the prediction of the match winners.

WWE Champion Randy Orton vs. Batista(Steel Cage Match)
World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs. Jeff Hardy (Ladder Match)
John Cena vs. Big Show (Submission Match)
ECW Champion Christian vs. Jack Swagger vs. Tommy Dreamer (Triple Threat Hardcore Rules Match)
Intercontinental Champion Rey Mysterio vs. Chris Jericho (No Holds Barred Match)
United States Champion Kofi Kingston vs. MVP vs. William Regal vs. Matt Hardy (Fatal Four Way Match)
CM Punk vs. Umaga (Samoan Strap Match)
Miss WrestleMania Vickie Guerrero vs. Santina Marella (Hog Pen Match)

Wow, didn't see that coming. Hopefully they'll give Punk a decent run this time around...

i think jeff hardy broke the record of shortest reigning world heavyweight champion... shame really..
hopefully this builds a good fued

At 6/7/09 11:07 PM, Random-Her03 wrote: i think jeff hardy broke the record of shortest reigning world heavyweight champion... shame really..
hopefully this builds a good fued

I thought it was odd to book Jeff to win, and then Punk to beat him. Perhaps we're going to finally get that long awaited Punk heel turn? Or is the idea here simply to run a "no hard feelings Jeff, but I just saw my moment and took it" insertion into the Edge/Hardy arc as Hardy exits? Very interesting possibility.

Also, with Jeff losing in under a minute, I do in fact believe he now holds the record for the shortest title run in pro wrestling history. That being any title, anywhere. Because I really think only in WWE will you see that kind of a scenario booked.

At 6/8/09 12:43 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

:Perhaps we're going to finally get that long awaited Punk heel turn? Or is the idea here simply to run a "no hard feelings Jeff, but I just saw my moment and took it"

i'm gonna go with the latter.

Sadly, I couldn't watch Extreme Rules last night - even though I was wanting to see it.

Poor Jeff......oh well; we knew it was only a matter of time before Punk pulled off the same thing he did last year.

Who won the other matches?

At 6/8/09 06:14 AM, Assi9 wrote: Who won the other matches?

Batista beat Orton: New Champion
Tommy Dreamer pinned Swagger: New Champion (Yay!)
Cena Beat Big Show ( No real suprise there. I don't thinkShow has ever beaten Cena on PPV.)
Santina beat Viki (Who cares?)
Jericho beat Rey: New Champion
Kofi retains U.S. Title
CM Punk Beat Umaga
CM Punk beat Jeff Hardy for the title

That about covers it.

Also... Don't know how true this is but it seems Batista got hurt again. Read it here.

At 6/8/09 07:37 AM, Outlaw88 wrote:

At 6/8/09 06:14 AM, Assi9 wrote: Who won the other matches?

Batista beat Orton: New Champion

There goes all of Orton's heel cred.......

Tommy Dreamer pinned Swagger: New Champion (Yay!)

YES!!! YEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!! AWESOME!

Cena Beat Big Show ( No real suprise there. I don't thinkShow has ever beaten Cena on PPV.)

No shit. :P How'd he do it this time?

Santina beat Viki (Who cares?)

Me. :P I know, I know, it's a waste of everyone's time, but I hate that whiny bitch. Seriously, WTF did Eddie see in her? Gimmick or no gimmick.

Jericho beat Rey: New Champion

PLEEZ tell me he wasn't unmasked......

Kofi retains U.S. Title

No surprise there, either. Just like I said, I expect a very strong title run.

CM Punk Beat Umaga

Not surprised again. Not like Umaga would lose any cred anyway - I still say his newfound speech will hurt his gimmick, though; it's just too sudden.

Also... Don't know how true this is but it seems Batista got hurt again. Read it here.

Aw, hell; just after beating the shit out that aforementioned remains of Orton's cred..........BAD TIMING!!!

I think it says alot when the WWE chooses to put the title on an injured, injury prone donkey, rather than keep the title on Orton.
They should really move him down to the midcard or something. I know Vince has the hots for him, but he really doesn't do anything for me. He's boring on the mic, boring in the ring, and not even a nice person, apparently.
I suppose at least the number one heel on Raw is the widow of a beloved wrestler. She deserves the position more.

"World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of SmackDown Superstar Umaga as of today, June 8, 2009. WWE wishes Umaga the best in all future endeavors."

At 6/8/09 06:29 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: "World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of SmackDown Superstar Umaga as of today, June 8, 2009. WWE wishes Umaga the best in all future endeavors."

SEE!? DIDN'T I FUCKING CALL THIS!? THE MOMENT UMAGA WAS ALLOWED TO SPEAK, HE WAS FLUSHED DOWN THE FUCKING TOILET.

Maybe he 'wanted to get the last word in'. *gets shot*

Well, it sems the age of Orton 2.0 is officially a joke.

At 6/8/09 11:12 PM, l0vemetal wrote: Well, it sems the age of Orton 2.0 is officially a joke.

Yeah, why didn't they just have him suck Triple H off while they were at it. I get that it was a big moment and all, but why do they insist that it's good to have the face just destroy the heel like that? Especially when the heel has his buddies and sees the face coming. It would have been much more effective I think to have done that thing up to when H hit the ring, and just have him and Orton brawl all over the place and back out the building or something. Because now that I've seen Triple H once again destroy Orton and Legacy, where's the impetus for me to want to see this continue? H just proved Orton is utterly a bitch, and Randy isn't even the reigning champion to where they can counter with "but don't you want to see H take the title he never lost off him?" well I can't do that, unless Batista is going to forfeit it next week and cause a tournament.

As for Umaga, wtf? That one is just bizarre as I've heard he was a favorite with management. Seems like there's got to be more to that story (for the record, I know as much as you do at present, probably tomorrow I'll find out what happened).

As to Vickie, heard that was a worked-shoot. Vickie is indeed leaving to spend more time with her daughters and gave notice sometime ago, guess that's why she's been so ineffective and de-emphasized since coming over to RAW. Could be an opportunity for Chavo here if the decide to make him the "wrestler GM" in the vein of Regal or Angle before him. How did the Edge thing go over? I didn't watch the show but I'm curious, was the crowd really behind what Edge was saying, or did this turn Vickie into a sympathetic face on her way out the door? I'm still not sure, but it seems like they are really looking to work an Edge face turn here.