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Well...that was interesting...

Anyway, another week, another good SD! it's also pretty funny that they have like 80% of the judgement day card. With RAW only contributing 2 matches and ECW it's customary title bout, everything else is Smackdown! pretty shocking considering all the moves in the draft were supposed to make RAW the stronger show again. But maybe it's just a fluke because they didn't have H to book or HBK to book, or anybody beyond John Cena...which again DOES go back to things I was saying in that initial post, WWE still shows an inability to think beyond the guys that were top draws a decade ago and really build anybody on the supposed top brand. Michaels is hinting he could be gone by next year, Batista is hinting the same. So that leaves them H and Cena if those two go (maybe Orton if they can finally get him to break through) and who beyond that? I mean really. They best hope that they can get one or both of those 2 to stick around a little longer, and that Taker can stay healthy a couple more years because they've done a piss poor job with truly building up new stars and it's really starting to hit crunch time for that.

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At 5/17/09 01:09 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: They best hope that they can get one or both of those 2 to stick around a little longer, and that Taker can stay healthy a couple more years because they've done a piss poor job with truly building up new stars and it's really starting to hit crunch time for that.

Luckily they have SD! though, and if they keep going at the rate they're going, you could easily see alot of their talent elevated quite alot.

Punk's been pushed and stopped so many times that I can't imagine him being a top guy, but he could easily become top face if Jeff leaves and Taker is only part time. He's the only one with a sure future out of those three, so we could see him actually reach the top. Fo Real.

And it would be awesome for Shelton to actually break out into the ME after all this time, he's a trooper.

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It's that time of the month again, time for The D-Lucks Judgment Day Predictions!!! Exclamation mark. As you know, winners in bold, match types/stips in italics.

1. Shelton Benjamin vs John Morrison

It's very clear from the way things have progressed on SD in recent weeks that WWE is trying everything they can to push JoMo as a face, as well as putting him over as a 'future top star'. With that in mind, if WWE are going to get the fans fully behind Morrison's new alignment, they need to make him look strong. While it is arguable that he has been made to look strong thus far in his feud with Shelton, a win at the PPV against him will certainly put Morrison in a better position. When you add all this together, it only makes sense to have JoMo go over tonight. I'm sure Shelton wouldn't be hurt by the loss, as he's displayed a new aggressiveness recently that's really helped his character in my opinion.
Morrison to win.

2. Intercontinental Champion Rey Mysterio vs Chris Jericho

Personally, I think that one of the reasons behind the US and IC belts switching brands in the Draft was to help give them more exposure as a result of the hard brand split. That's partly why I don't see the belt changing hands so frivolously in future months as opposed to how the belt was treated on Raw. Rey and Jericho allegedly have a big feud coming up, so it wouldn't make sense for Rey to drop the belt now, plus the feud will keep Jericho away from the WHC title picture for a little while which will let Edge get some feuds in himself.
As for the match itself, we could easily see some shenanigans from Jericho, leading to a DQ loss and Rey retaining, followed by a beatdown. Or of course we could see Rey win clean, causing Jericho to snap over 'disrespect', or something similar. Either way, I don't see Rey losing the title tonight to prolong the feud.
Rey to retain.

3. CM Punk vs Umaga

First of all, this will be a short prediction. Secondly, I'm not at all thinking that Punk wins clean. At all. I'm purely basing this on the fact that I think Umaga will get himself DQ'd in order to protect Punk for later in the evening *cough*Chicago*cough*. Umaga gets DQ'd, Punk somehow fends off the assault/gets backup from someone, Punk is protected. Point is, Umaga needs to be shown as a credible monster again without Punk being totally squashed. So a DQ win for Punk followed by Punk somehow fending Umaga off will prevent both sides from losing heat.
So, Punk to win via DQ.

4. John Cena vs Big Show

WEEEEELLLLLL it's the Big Show, and being buried by Cena after the latter was recently thrown into a "7000-watt searchlight" (which is ludicrous in itself, 7000 watts would kill anyone. BUT THEN AGAIN CENA IS NO NORMAL MAN BAH GAWD) would be preposterous. Hence why I have two words for ya. Suck i-, uh I mean, The MIz.
Miz, in his own mind, is 3-0 against Cena. Why not give Miz some more heat by having him cost Cena the match against Show and have him go 4-0 against him? Miz, like Morrison, needs to be established as a legitimate singles contender now he has been split from his tag partner, and this angle with Cena could well help Miz a great deal, if done correctly. Having Miz distract Cena (and hey, maybe even rough him up a bit after the match with Show?) and cost him the match would elevate not only the angle, but Miz as a contender. So hopefully that occurs tonight. And if it doesn't and Cena just destroys Show, then I'll just bow my head in disappointment.
Big Show to win via Miz distraction.

5. ECW Champion Christian vs Jack Swagger

While these two have had a great feud with some high quality matches, it's time for this feud to end. Christian has a wide range of challengers on the ECW roster (Tommy Dreamer's last shot anyone? No?) and Swagger has plenty of faces to feud with afterwards also, such as Evan Bourne who's not really doing anything at the moment. And really, that's the only reasoning I have for this prediction; the feud needs to end, and Christian isn't going to lose the belt on the first PPV since winning it. Here's hoping we aren't treated to a lovely Christian/Kozlov feud any time soon.
So, Christian to retain.

6. WWE Champion Randy Orton vs Batista

Firstly, it would be a waste of time giving Orton the belt if he lost it to Batista now. Secondly, you'd have to have a missing brain stem not to think that Rhodes and DiBiase will get involved at some point in the match. Then you've got to take into account that Batista has had a lot of DQ losses recently, so they could continue the 'Batista's rage works against him' angle by having him get DQ'd against Orton; that way he'll have no one to blame but himself for the loss (or, more probable, Rhodes and DiBiase shenanigans). Point is, Orton's not losing the belt just yet. And considering Dave will have no backup (although it's possible MVP could appear, but they seem to have dropped his involvement the past couple of weeks) and Orton will, there's surely no way they'll have Orton lose tonight.
Orton to retain.

7. World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs. JJJJJJYYYYEEEEEFFFFFF Hardy

Right, picture the scene. Edge and Jeff have a long gruelling match which culminates in Jeff making a mistake. Edge capitalises and retains against Jeff. And who should make his second appearance of the night in his hometown than CM Punk. Punk cashes in MitB, pins edge and wins the title. But the celebrations are cut short by Umaga, who is still agitated by his DQ loss earlier in the night. Umaga lays out the new champ, and Jeff if he tries to make the save and stands tall to end the show. That way Punk has a readymade opponent for his first title defense that also continues his previous feud.

I know that Punk cashing in MitB at Judgment Day in his hometown is faceslappingly obvious even to casual fans, so there's always the chane that WWE could swerve us and have something more unexpected happen, such as Punk successfully cashing in the briefcase but Umaga interfering during the subsequent match so that Punk loses the briefcase. Or of course nothing could happen at all with Punk. But I'm going with the general concensus that Punk cashes in in his hometown.
Oh yeah, and Edge retains beforehand. ;)
Edge to retain, followed by MitB shenanigans from Punk.

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And that's my predictions for this month. And as per usual, does anyone have any thoughts on my predictions?


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Agree with pretty much everything, except the Cena-Show match. Cena has gotten his ass handed to him these past couple of weeks, so I expect him to overcome the odds and somehow win his match against Big Show. I will then slam my head on my keyboard repeatedly.

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I can't really decide if I like Morrison and MVP as heels. Part of he reason I like them is because they played the part so well. Also has anyone heard of the actor Dominic Purcell? Him and Batista could be brothers because the resemblance is almost uncanny.

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John Morrison vs Shelton Benjamin
Both these guys are amazing talents, and I'm loving this fued! I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that this match will definately become a favourite of the night. I see alot of creative spots and possibly a Charlie Haas interference, I'm gonna give Shelton the win, really because he's been on the losing end of this fued so if they give him this win by cheating or interference, they can keep this awesome fued going!
My Prediction: Shelton Benjamin

Jack Swagger vs Christian (c) for the ECW Title
I haven't really been following this fued as of late, due to the fact that i don't really watch ECW, god i hope Christian comes to SD! soon.. anyway i think Christian will retain, mainly because he's only had the title for a month and i think WWE are trying to cut down on the short title reigns, I also hope we see another Edge and Christian confrontation.
My Prediction: Christian retains

Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (c) for the IC title
This is a pretty nice fued, but i've barely seen them together, If i wasn't aware of the matches in the ppv, i'd think that Jericho and Edge are fueding, then again i missed smackdown about a week ago, and i heard that Jericho requested a long fued with Mysterio, so maybe they're just taking it slow at first. As much as i would love to see Jericho become a 9 time IC champ, I don't see him walking out as champ.
My Prediction: Mysterio retains

CM Punk vs Umaga
Avie you're right, SD! has really taken up this card.. Umaga is looking a lot slimmer these days so hopefully we can see some more of his high flying moves (i remember him in 3 min warning, i don't remember if it was him or Rosey who used to do moonsaults, but i remember both of them going off the top rope) anyway it seems CM Punk's star is shining brighter than the Samoan Bulldozers so i'll give the victory to him.
My Prediction: CM Punk

John Cena vs The Big Show
This fued has seemed kinda weak, from what i've seen it looks more like a Cena/Miz fued, I'm gonna agree with D-Yikes and say that The Miz will get a taste in this match, and possibly be the reason that Cena loses, then again I don't see The Miz being in a big fued with Cena, I don't think he's quite ready for it yet.. anyway The Big Show will win in my opinion coz i think Cena's taking a little bit of time off to make another flop.. sorry.. "movie".
My Prediction: Big Show

Edge (c) vs Jeff Hardy for the WH title
I do like these 2 wrestlers a lot, but i'm getting bored of this fued. It'll be a good match, but i have a feeling they won't be alone. I see CM Punk cashing in the breifcase just after the 2 make their entrances. I hope this is a good match, cause like i said this fued is starting to become a bit stale.
Even if Punk cashes in, I see the first MITB winner who comes up short with their cashed in match. But i do see this creating a new fued, even though I'm not a CM Punk fan, this fued would be new, which is good.
My Prediction: Punk cashes in, but Edge still retains

Batista vs Randy Orton (c) for the WWE title
Let's put it this way, If Batista wins, I'll make out with a rabid badger and find a sample of Freddie Mercury's blood and inject into me... no i won't.. but you know where i'm getting at.
My Prediction: Orton retains

The PPV has already started, but i assure you i started this about 40 mins ago, i've just been distracted while writing.


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Wow. Just... wow.

Probably the worst WWE PPV I've watched, with the exception of Mysterio / Jericho.

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didn't take too long for flair to come back to wwe

i think we all knew he'd be back soon..


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At 5/17/09 08:48 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Luckily they have SD! though, and if they keep going at the rate they're going, you could easily see alot of their talent elevated quite alot.

I can, but every year there's a draft, and every year they try to scoop the very best guys off SD! to send to RAW, and then they wind up being devalued a bit or utterly shipped to the background while the same four or five guys get pushed. SD! can build up some guys sure, and has done, but even there how many guys have we truly seen "break out" from that show? It's still under auspices of Vince and even though it tends to be a better show that's more "hands off" from the Mac man, it still has to please him. Don't get me wrong, very good show, lots of depth and potential there, but consistency is what we need and we need guys to truly break through there, and stay broken through if they move.

Punk's been pushed and stopped so many times that I can't imagine him being a top guy, but he could easily become top face if Jeff leaves and Taker is only part time. He's the only one with a sure future out of those three, so we could see him actually reach the top. Fo Real.

Totally, Punk has been start stopped, but the core fan base is behind this guy and they WANT him to succeed, the ratings actually went up a bit while he was Champ last year on RAW. Was it for Punk? Or was it just the idea that someone new and young was on top? Not entirely sure, I'm a big fan of the guy so I hope it was the former. But honestly, WWE definitely needs to shit or get off the pot there, I know he can generate heat in the back, I know he doesn't fit their mold and they didn't really want him, but they've signed a deal with Pepsi (and he's the perfect spokesman there, please bring back the Pepsi Plunge WWE!) and he's a great rep for the company in general. If they don't get him to the top on SD! then I just don't see it happening, he's definitely a prospect they should be getting ready and so far it looks like they are. I think people will forgive the stop start, some of that was ECW which so few people watch, I think the ratings drop on RAW would indicate people were pissed that he was dropped out of the top mix. So to me? Punk is kind of RVD 09 in that no matter what they do to him, the fans are behind him and want him to succeed so as long as they book him properly and don't hamstring him he can get to where they can really generate money from him.

And it would be awesome for Shelton to actually break out into the ME after all this time, he's a trooper.

He is, but I just don't know that he has those tools, upper middle definitely and honestly? What's wrong with that? Curt Hennig never really reached the pinnacle in either WCW or WWE, but he is still fondly remembered because he was booked strongly and importantly. You don't have to be at the tippity top to make an impact and really be integral to the show. Being an important part of the middle is great too.

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So all the champions retained last night and Punk didn't cash in briefcase. No idea how the matches looked, though judging by the one response to it it wasn't really worth it. It doesn't suprise me that the one match he did like was the Jericho/Rey match.

I thought for suse Punk was going to cash in. He's tried a few times already. Then again he's only done it when Edge was beaten up. He should do what RVD did and state when he is going to challenge to hype up the bout.

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At 5/18/09 07:46 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: So all the champions retained last night and Punk didn't cash in briefcase. No idea how the matches looked, though judging by the one response to it it wasn't really worth it. It doesn't suprise me that the one match he did like was the Jericho/Rey match.

The whole PPV just seemed like a 3-hour episode of RAW; WWE really pulled a slump with this one, man. Having the Miz come down and do what seemed to be a 20-minute segment? What the hell, man. Does anyone like this guy now that he's solo? I wasn't sure if the crowd was booing him because he's a hell or because they legitimately hate him. He tries way too hard.

Meh, anyway, here's some match recaps, and don't worry... I'm not "spoiling" anything that wouldn't be spoiled just by venturing over to WWE.com...

CM PUNK vs UMAGA... It was alright for what it was worth. No memorable spots, in fact a pretty dull match. Umaga basically dominated from start to finish, burying Punk in the process. Seeing Punk trying to hit the GTS was pretty funny, I'll give 'em that.

CHRISTIAN vs JACK SWAGGER... "Christian's a cheater!" I'm no fan of ECW to begin with, though these guys did put on a decent match. Pretty back and forth, though nothing out of the norm. If I recall correctly, we didn't even see either one's finisher. Wow.

JOHN MORRISON vs SHELTON BENJAMIN: Seems Charlie Haas was just there to play cheerleader and nothing else. Morrison pulled out a good spot when he lunged off the ropes doing the little two-flips-in-the-air collision, but other'n that, nothing too exciting.

REY MYSTERIO vs CHRIS JERICHO... Most definitely the match of the night. Lots of good back and forth action, lots of good counters, and seeing Jericho catch Mysterio about a half second before the 619 connected, countering straight into the Walls was a great spot. The whole" turnbuckle 619" was a good way to finish it off methinks.

JOHN CENA vs BIG SHOW... Everyone knows the outcome to this. Let's beat Cena down the entire match, give him about 4 offensive maneuvers during it's entirety, so that way when he goes Super-Cena and wins outta nowhere it'll make him seem that much more invincible. Same "PPV Cena" formula I'm tired of seeing.

RANDY ORTON vs BATISTA... What a fucking snoozefest. What little action there was in this match (believe me, there wasn't much...) was brought to a halt when Orton slugged the referee, retaining his Championship, and Legacy coming down. Why are we paying for this again? Don't we watch the PPVs hoping we'll see something new? Seeing Flair get involved, most likely breaking his "retirement" (did anybody actually think it was permanent?) is not new, nor even the least bit exciting.

EDGE vs JEFF HARDY... Decent match, though again, nothing memorable... just your standard match. What surprised me was after Punk's match being the opener, I was almost sure he'd be there to cash in after some "resting time," but alas, no Punk, signifiying he got completely buried in his hometown with no redemption. Also, I thought WWE was silently scrapping their Hardy-Hardy feud? Meh.

Overall a lackluster PPV. As mentioned, we basically paid $40 to get an extra hour on RAW or SmackDown. It's not very often I post here, much less to complain, but yeah. This was probably the first time since I've started watching again (mid '07) that I've actually felt genuinely jipped out of money.

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At 5/18/09 01:29 PM, l0vemetal wrote: Does anyone like this guy [The Miz] now that he's solo? I wasn't sure if the crowd was booing him because he's a hell or because they legitimately hate him. He tries way too hard.

To me, he's always tried too hard.. he's too animated and quite frankly, even if Rob Schneider put on a pair of tights and started wrestling, i'd take his character more seriously.. I gotta say though i do like his new smark like gimmick, but all he really does is just take aim at 12 rounds.. like ok it was funny the first time.. but not 4 weeks in a row. I really hope WWE makes the right decision and decide to push Morrison over Miz.

CM PUNK vs UMAGA... It was alright for what it was worth. No memorable spots, in fact a pretty dull match. Umaga basically dominated from start to finish, burying Punk in the process. Seeing Punk trying to hit the GTS was pretty funny, I'll give 'em that.

Now believe me when i say this, I'm not afraid to tell people that I am.. wait for it... NOT A CM PUNK FAN! which lately seems like blasphemy.. ah well, but all that aside i do disagree that they shouldn't of buried him.. i don't like the guy but let's face facts, unless he pulls a Brock Lesnar (which doesn't really seem likely), he'll be a future HOFer, I get that Umaga's been out for quite a while and they don't really want him to come back being a jobber.. but when it comes between CM Punk and Umaga.. Punks just up higher, also let's not forget he's holding the MITB breifcase, so they should be making him unstoppable for his cash in moment.

CHRISTIAN vs JACK SWAGGER... "Christian's a cheater!" I'm no fan of ECW to begin with, though these guys did put on a decent match. Pretty back and forth, though nothing out of the norm. If I recall correctly, we didn't even see either one's finisher. Wow.

Swagger is another HOFer in the making in my view, definately one of the best "rookies" so far. Just like you, I don't follow ECW and they're storylines very well but from what i understand, Christian seems to be cheating in his matches against Swagger, nice, kinda reminds me of the good old Eddie Guerrero days.

JOHN MORRISON vs SHELTON BENJAMIN: Seems Charlie Haas was just there to play cheerleader and nothing else. Morrison pulled out a good spot when he lunged off the ropes doing the little two-flips-in-the-air collision, but other'n that, nothing too exciting.

that flip was awesome, but yeh i really thought this one was gonna be match of the night material.. it was a good match don't get me wrong.. but yeh, had heaps more potential to it. Also couldn't help noticing Haas bleached the top of his hair blonde.. why does he always dye his hair ONLY when he teams with Shelton? think about it..

REY MYSTERIO vs CHRIS JERICHO... Most definitely the match of the night. Lots of good back and forth action, lots of good counters, and seeing Jericho catch Mysterio about a half second before the 619 connected, countering straight into the Walls was a great spot. The whole" turnbuckle 619" was a good way to finish it off methinks.

there was no chance that this match was gonna suck.. even though i think Mysterio has gotten a lot less high flying than he used to be (which i could understand why with his recent injuries). This match was also pulling for match of the night, and it delivered! and though i did miss the beginning of it, it really makes me wanna find the first part of it asap.

JOHN CENA vs BIG SHOW... Everyone knows the outcome to this. Let's beat Cena down the entire match, give him about 4 offensive maneuvers during it's entirety, so that way when he goes Super-Cena and wins outta nowhere it'll make him seem that much more invincible. Same "PPV Cena" formula I'm tired of seeing.

true, you'd think after 4 years of doing it, they'd think of something new

RANDY ORTON vs BATISTA... What a fucking snoozefest. What little action there was in this match (believe me, there wasn't much...) was brought to a halt when Orton slugged the referee, retaining his Championship, and Legacy coming down. Why are we paying for this again? Don't we watch the PPVs hoping we'll see something new? Seeing Flair get involved, most likely breaking his "retirement" (did anybody actually think it was permanent?) is not new, nor even the least bit exciting.

to be honest.. i didn't even bother watching this match, while flairs comeback sorta caught me off guard, i had more of a "i knew he wouldn't last too long without wwe" feeling.

EDGE vs JEFF HARDY... Decent match, though again, nothing memorable... just your standard match. What surprised me was after Punk's match being the opener, I was almost sure he'd be there to cash in after some "resting time," but alas, no Punk, signifiying he got completely buried in his hometown with no redemption. Also, I thought WWE was silently scrapping their Hardy-Hardy feud? Meh.

It was a passable match, and it kinda did surprise me that Matt Hardy interfered as i thought their brother vs brother feud was long over now.. but yeh no Punk cashing in the breifcase.. kind of a shocker but maybe it's just the whole christian comeback all over again, Vince probably knew that the crowd knew that Punk was gonna cash in so he might of nixed it for the night and go with a plan B instead.

Overall a lackluster PPV. As mentioned, we basically paid $40 to get an extra hour on RAW or SmackDown. It's not very often I post here, much less to complain, but yeah. This was probably the first time since I've started watching again (mid '07) that I've actually felt genuinely jipped out of money.

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At 5/18/09 07:46 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I thought for suse Punk was going to cash in. He's tried a few times already. Then again he's only done it when Edge was beaten up. He should do what RVD did and state when he is going to challenge to hype up the bout.

I see it, but character wise it makes no sense. Look, the idea that the babyface should let the heel know he's coming is dumb, just like it'd be dumb to have a heel let a babyface know he's coming. Think of it like you would a shoot: You have this ability to get the champion ANYTIME why WOULDN'T you try to beat the guy down and then cash in, or you take advantage of him when already beaten down. You have a title match you can instate ANY TIME, so you want to cash it in when you're surest to win. Plus from a straight up character perspective, Punk has done just that before and he won, why would he change a formula he personally knows would work for him? I think Punk will wind up chasing Edge, and ultimately beating him by surprise at a PPV or on SD! and then there will be a return bout on the next PPV or something to really hype up.

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Raw was fairly crap last night and I just wish Flair would stay out of the ring. Since I barely watch ECW and Superstars (unless a match catches my eye) I'm considering dropping Raw as well. Smackdowns just far better and worth my time whereas Raw seems like a waste of a couple of hours nearly every week.

As far as Punk and MITB go, I'd love him to turn heel (which he was apparently awsome as during his indie days) and cash in on a newly crowned Jeff Hardy. Then the two start a programme based on there real life lifestyles. Straight edge versus past problems with drugs.


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At 5/18/09 02:28 PM, Random-Her03 wrote: NOT A CM PUNK FAN! which lately seems like blasphemy.. ah well, but all that aside i do disagree that they shouldn't of buried him.. i don't like the guy but let's face facts, unless he pulls a Brock Lesnar (which doesn't really seem likely), he'll be a future HOFer

..WAIT..
WHAT!?

CM Punk will is not a future hall of famer. I don't think even his die hard fans would say that he is.
He is a lackluster midcarder who has achieved very little.
He is over rated is his role which isn't even at that great of a height.

From what I've read this PPV was one of the best in a long while so I was surprised to read most of the reactions here. It really didn't sound all that good reading the results.
Pretty predictable through out.
I really would like to purchase a PPV, I guess I might wait for summer slam.
extreme rules isnt shaping up to be anything special.

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At 5/20/09 10:42 AM, Shaun wrote:
CM Punk will is not a future hall of famer. I don't think even his die hard fans would say that he is.
He is a lackluster midcarder who has achieved very little.
He is over rated is his role which isn't even at that great of a height.

Too be honest, being a hall of famer doesn't mean anything. Anyone can be one if they are booked consitently. When the compnay is adding people, it doesn't come down to titles held, it comes down to the amount of dedication you put into the business.

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Know what WWE cares about? Sales. CM Punk sells t-shirts and other merch. If you are selling stuff you are going to be pushed to a degree. The support he's getting from the fans justifies the push he should be getting. I like Punk so I see no reason why he shouldn't be pushed.

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At 5/21/09 10:36 PM, boloneyman wrote: Too be honest, being a hall of famer doesn't mean anything. Anyone can be one if they are booked consitently. When the compnay is adding people, it doesn't come down to titles held, it comes down to the amount of dedication you put into the business.

Bob Orton is a hall of famer. What did Bob Orton ever accomplish really? They need guys to fill out the ceremonies honestly. Punk is still pretty young and has a LOT of years left, he's never been consistently pushed or given a chance to show if he can really draw any money, and really? What do you want? Instantaneous push? Oh that's worked so well lately right. I forgot.

Some of you guys I think have a serious misunderstanding of how the big stars became stars. I think a lot of you think these guys just come out of nowhere, have their WWE runs, and that's it. Most of the guys who REALLY have made money in the business, no matter how long that money making run was, had to toil for like 5 years or 10 years doing bullshit shows, getting crap pay offs, and being opening match losers. It used to be a guy didn't stop being a rookie UNTIL he'd put in 5 years or so. Now the WWE thinks they can make their own stars in 2 years, 3 years, whatever, and guess what? It isn't working out so hot for them most of the time because to really learn their craft correctly guys have to put in time. Punk I think is a guy who's learned the right way, he's committed, he's put in some time, and let's see what can be done with him. Most of you probably would have said when Austin came in he was a talented mid-carder who'd never go anywhere.

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well i watched smackdown
and after 3 years Umaga finally speaks... in a perfect american-english accent..

kinda ruins the character now doesn't it?


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At 5/23/09 06:12 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: well i watched smackdown
and after 3 years Umaga finally speaks... in a perfect american-english accent..

kinda ruins the character now doesn't it?

He spoke? Wow, figures that would happen when I miss SD. But yeah I guess it does kinda ruin the whole "savage" thing.

So there is going to be a ladder match between Jeff and Edge. That will be one to see since both guys are really good at that style of match.

I'm actually a bit suprised WWE is favoring Ziggler over R-Truth. I would have done it the other way around.

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Hello, please can I join this club? I love wrestling and my favourite wrestlers are: Jeff Hardy and Rey Mysterio.

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Rather than taking up post space with where I disappeared to, just read the blog. :P

Just now got cable access again, so I can now watch TNA - BOY DID I MISS A SHITLOAD OF THAT. Did manage to catch WM25, though (FUCKING AWESOME SHIT THAR) and the aforementioned waste-of-money Judgment Day. I agree with everyone else here - Jericho vs. Mysterio was the ONLY worthwhile match of the night, really.

I noticed they changed the name of One Night Stand...........makes sense when it isn't 'one night' anymore........nor true ECW.....

I'll make another post with what I've observed this past year later.

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At 5/24/09 02:53 AM, Assi9 wrote: Yes, I'm back for good this time.

Welcome back! Its been way too long man!

Looking at WWE.com there was an issue with the arena they were originally going to use. However they changed venues and the show will still be live Monday night. You can read the article here.

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I'm guessing you're referring to the incident with the head coach of the Denver Nuggets, right? Saw the blurb on SD last Friday.

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Raw was decent last night. I liked the U.S. title contender match and the main event was good too. The bit with Goldust and Hornswaggle was somewhat amusing as well. I do think they are taking the Santina thin a bit too far though. Does anyone really want to see a pig-pin match? Why are they wasting PPV time with that?

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Guess who's injured again? That's right, Ken Kennedy hurt his wrist last night, taking an RKO.
I think they should just quit trying to push him as a wrestler, and put him in a remake of Unbreakable.

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WHAT!? He just gets back, and HE'S ALREADY BACK OUT AGAIN!?!?!? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck........

Anyway, who was playing the Nuggets' coach? I thought it was Cena at first (face-wise), but Cena couldn't have pulled off that voice.

Btw, WHERE THE FUCK DID TAZZ GO!? He'd never just get replaced by JOHN GRISHAM (nothing wrong with him moving up the ladder, but come on) for no reason, would he?

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At 5/26/09 04:12 PM, Assi9 wrote: Btw, WHERE THE FUCK DID TAZZ GO!? He'd never just get replaced by JOHN GRISHAM (nothing wrong with him moving up the ladder, but come on) for no reason, would he?

That is incorrect. Anyone else?

*bup bup bup*

The correct answer would be TODD Grisham. Go ahead, Assi.

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At 5/26/09 12:53 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Guess who's injured again? That's right, Ken Kennedy hurt his wrist last night, taking an RKO.
I think they should just quit trying to push him as a wrestler, and put him in a remake of Unbreakable.

We wish Mr. Kennedy well in his future endeavors. Seriously, if not just a little sprain or some other thing he can get through, that should be the next step with him.

Also just wanted to point out that if you go to www.hulu.com you can watch the entire Friday Night Smackdown! show and ECW 100% for free, 100% legal (which should be a duh since I never promote or let you guys promote watching WWE streams illegally anyways :p). I recommend checking that out, and this week's episode was quite strong and as for the whole "Umaga talks" issue, it's not like it was a long promo, basically he just challenged Punk to a strap match, and said he was going to hurt him bad. I think if you won't give him a mouthpiece then Umaga HAS to start cutting promos, at least minimal ones like the one on friday or he's just going to be a one dimensional bruiser that can only go so far. It's not ECW up there where he can do stupid insane stunts like Sabu and get over that way, and it's not like back in the day when a guy like Kamala or Giant Gonzalez would do the work and Harvey Wippleman or somebody would handle the talk. To me? Not a big issue, but I could be wrong.

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At 5/26/09 09:01 PM, Shoopufzilla wrote:
At 5/26/09 04:12 PM, Assi9 wrote: Btw, WHERE THE FUCK DID TAZZ GO!? He'd never just get replaced by JOHN GRISHAM (nothing wrong with him moving up the ladder, but come on) for no reason, would he?
That is incorrect. Anyone else?

*bup bup bup*

The correct answer would be TODD Grisham. Go ahead, Assi.

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Hey, at least I got his last name right.

For the record, for a while I was accidentally calling Joey Styles A.J. Styles instead.

At 5/26/09 11:45 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
At 5/26/09 12:53 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Guess who's injured again? That's right, Ken Kennedy hurt his wrist last night, taking an RKO.
I think they should just quit trying to push him as a wrestler, and put him in a remake of Unbreakable.
We wish Mr. Kennedy well in his future endeavors. Seriously, if not just a little sprain or some other thing he can get through, that should be the next step with him.

'LA-LA-LA-LA-LA,

I-AM-NOT-LIS-TEN-ING!!!'

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