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At 5/5/09 12:26 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I missed most ofRaw but I just got finished reading the results. So it looks like Shane will be out of the picture for a while. That is a fine way of getting him out of the storyline so the actual wrestlers will get the attention.

Agreed, it's well past time to get the Mc's out of this thing again and go back to focusing on the boys.

I'm also guessing that Regal will be gunning for the U.S. Title. Not a bad fued there since both he and MVP are great workers.

They are, but this is CM Punk all over again. MVP is now going from being a peripheral guy in the top storyline to being in a meaningless feud with William Regal for a secondary belt. Just like Punk went from World Champ last year to being in a pretty meaningless feud with Regal for a secondary belt!!! WWE has got to stop elevating guys, then knocking them down, then elevating, then knocking down. This does not help people be seen as stars.

Well my work schedual changed so that I'll be working Tuesday nights. Guess I won't be seeing ECW for a long time now. I'll have to make an effort to keep up with it and watch some of the results at the web site.

You don't have a working VCR? Cause I mean, if you get the channel, why not just tape the show? Or is this one of those "well, it's good if I'm HOME..but if not? Eh..."

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Man I hate Orton What he did to shane was wrong And i Just hope that at judgement day batista beats the living hell out of him ant takes his wwe title


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Meh, ECW was meh, lol. I am hopping for a MVP/RKO feud for WWE title to elevate MVP to main event status, but first he should lose the title to Regal (one of the most underrated people in WWE, and one of the best mat wrestlers) first, then go after RKO.

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all i saw from ECW was Zach Ryder talking to Tiffany, apparently he's got a match with Finlay on Superstars
i do like that they're really trying to give everyone in the supplemental draft some TV time, even if some of them do job

also it appears that Ryders got a new look, for those of you who havent seen it, just think of a flamboyantly gay version of Kenny Dykstra..


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At 5/5/09 03:16 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: You don't have a working VCR? Cause I mean, if you get the channel, why not just tape the show? Or is this one of those "well, it's good if I'm HOME..but if not? Eh..."

Actually no. I don't have a working VCR nor do I have a DVD player that will also record a show. In fact my DVD player is my PS2. So I really don't have a way of recording the show. Otherwise I would.

So Christian moved right along to Henry in a big hurry. At least Swagger and Dreamer are still in the picture.

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At 5/6/09 12:00 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Actually no. I don't have a working VCR nor do I have a DVD player that will also record a show. In fact my DVD player is my PS2. So I really don't have a way of recording the show. Otherwise I would.

you should just watch it on youtube then, you'll find it somewhere on that site


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I agree that WWE should be more consistant with who they push and how they do it. The situation with MVP is exactly like Punk's not that long ago. I didn't realize it until Avie pointed it out, but damn. Same person wanting the mid level belt. At least we'll get some decent matches out of it.

How long do you think it will be before Jessie gets released? I doubt they will give him the time of day without Festus around.

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At 5/7/09 11:35 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: How long do you think it will be before Jessie gets released? I doubt they will give him the time of day without Festus around.

I never really liked either of them, aside from there awsome theme song, biscuits and gravy :)
Apparently one of them has a relative in the writting team though so that might play to there advantage.

Also Jericho/Morrison has been announced for tonights edition of Superstars. I don't normally watch ECW or Superstars unless something catches my eye. This certainly did, should be an excellent match.


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So as you all know i attended Monday Night Raw at HSBC Arena tonight, and thought it was a pretty good show. What I found funny was that Legacy had to redo their entrance for TV haha. Something went wrong and they had to do it again. Randy, believe it or not, got more pops than jeers.

Speaking of jeers, you think the heat is bad on Vickie when you watch on TV? It is 10 times worse than you think live. It is hilarious. You could not hear a word she was saying.

The dark match was ok too. Batista wanted to take on Legacy 3 on 1. But, he then says he had a partner, so none other than John Cena comes out, fully healed from his altercations with the Big Show in recent weeks, and performs for the fans. It was a great show, I do not want to spoil anything for those of you who did not see it.

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At 5/7/09 12:18 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: I never really liked either of them, aside from there awsome theme song, biscuits and gravy :)
Apparently one of them has a relative in the writting team though so that might play to there advantage.

What it is actually is Jesse is the son of Terry Gordy. Gordy was Michael Hayes's tag partner in The Fabulous Freebirds, and Hayes is the head writer on SD!. But in the end if Vince wants the guy gone, he'll be gone, I think it's too early to say whether or not he'll be released yet, we've basically only had "week 1" of our new post-draft rosters.

Also Jericho/Morrison has been announced for tonights edition of Superstars. I don't normally watch ECW or Superstars unless something catches my eye. This certainly did, should be an excellent match.

If they're given time absolutely.

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You know, Superstars is quietly becoming a damn good show. Once again, we got a show with some solid wrestling, and a segment that helped push one of the title matches at JD.

The Cutting Edge did a great job of promoting the Edge-Hardy title match, and it made for a nice trip down memory lane as Edge talked about his history with Jeff. Segment ended after Jeff hit a Twist of Fate and a Swanton on Edge.

Santina-Kelly vs Beth-Rosa was much better than it had any right to be. Kelly seems to be improving, and although he has to dress in drag to do it, Santino finally finds himself/herself with a short winning streak. My only problem with the match is that I believe Rosa got pinned, despite the fact that Beth was the legal woman.

Zack Ryder vs Finlay was just puzzling, to be honest. It was a decent match, but why give Ryder a new gimmick, if you're going to job him out in his first match?

Morrison vs Jericho was very good, but not great. Surprisingly, it was Morrison who was in control throughout the majority of the match. Morrison came close to getting the win after hitting Starship Pain (Split-Legged Corkscrew Moonsault) but Jericho managed to get his foot on the ropes. Finish came when Shelton Benjamin's music interrupted the match (With a tron appearance by Shelton), which distract Morrison and allowed Jericho to hit the Codebreaker for the win.

All in all, another solid show for Superstars.

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I saw this in one of Matt Hardy's blogs, and it made me chuckle a bit.

The column I will occasionally read when I check out reviews (because the gentleman who writes it "gets it", and speaks about the talent and business with respect and dignity) is the "Looking at a "so and so" edition of whatever TV show he's reviewing." That column is the most accurate and most consistent of any of the "major" sites. It blows most of the other "attempted" reviews away. I have no knowledge of the gentleman's background who writes this column-but I appreciate the fact he has a good grasp on what the WWE does, what pro wrestling is REALLY about, and is respectful of what we do as humans and athletes.

That of course, would be a column on PWinsider. Proving that Avie is right when he talks about how good of a site it is.

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SD was pretty good the other night. They are doing a good job in making Punk seem like a true contender to Edge with him getting the two times in a row. His fued with Umaga will hold him over until WWE is ready for him to cash in the briefcase.

Jeff vs. Jericho was really great too. I'm guessing Jericho might fued with Rey which would provide some really great matches as well.

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I really wish we had single brand PPVs still, because I'd totally buy SD! offerings, it's a shame that WWE always seems to give RAW more time on the PPV's while SD! has more depth to the roster at present and producing good, simple to understand feuds.

Hardy/Edge: Edge wants to keep his belt, Hardy wants to win it. Throw in these are two guys who have clawed their way up and been rivals for years and this could be their final chapter.

Punk/Umaga: Umaga has screwed with Punk unprovoked twice now. Punk wants to end it.

Rey/Jericho: Jericho threw that chair at Rey, and Jericho doesn't respect him. Rey wants to shut up Jericho's loud mouth and now firmly has his attention to do so.

Shelton/Morrison: Two guys costing each other matches and wanting to settle the score.

See how easy storytelling can be WWE? You don't need fifty million twists, or these over the top home invasions, trying to destroy whole families, blah blah. Just find simple reasons for 2 guys to hate each other and the wrestling ring is the mechanism whereby the issue is settled. It's so freaking simple and pure and that is the core for wrestling's success. WWE needs to stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just do what they do best.

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Yeah sometimes the best fueds are the simple ones. I like what's going on on SD right now as these are rivalries that are competitive and interesting. Compared to Raw it seems much easier to follow. I don't know why WWE feels they need to complicate their storylines, but I can understand their desire to spice things up now and then.

Apparently Mr. Kennedy is back doing some house shows so it shouldn't be too long before he makes an apperance on Raw.

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it's nice to see The Brian Kendrick get a win on raw, and against a worthy opponent that is carlito. I'm actually interested in who "THE partner" would be.. i hope it isn't some jobber like chavo or jamie noble..


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At 5/12/09 01:29 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: it's nice to see The Brian Kendrick get a win on raw, and against a worthy opponent that is carlito. I'm actually interested in who "THE partner" would be.. i hope it isn't some jobber like chavo or jamie noble..

Yeah I was glad to see Kendrick get a win too, and it will be good to see Carlito and Primo with some competition in the tag team ranks.

I'm also happy that they didn't totally job Miz to Cena. He got some decent offense in and due to the stipulations of the match he didn't have to be pinned. Now I obviously don't think he will pin Cena anytime soon, but making him look like a legit threat is good booking for once.

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At 5/12/09 01:29 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: it's nice to see The Brian Kendrick get a win on raw, and against a worthy opponent that is carlito. I'm actually interested in who "THE partner" would be.. i hope it isn't some jobber like chavo or jamie noble..

At least they remembered Carlito has a partner and all, but again my problem here is that it doesn't so much seem like the tag champs are in a feud, but that Carlito is in a feud and because he has a tag title Primo and whoever Kendricks partner will be are along for the ride. It really sucks what's been done to the tag division, but at least on SD! you could get some good matches out of it, if not have it really be super duper hard pushed.

If you watched RAW last night, you deserve a medal, reading a report and then listening to the post game, this episode just sounded like utter garbage from start to finish. Don't they have a PPV on Sunday they wanted to promote? Also, Vince said that there's a bunch of young talent ready to break out in his conference call, I guess none of that is on RAW right?

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its good to finally see DH Smith come back after just over a year absence
it seems he's also stopped abbreviating his name and is now going under the name 'David Hart Smith'

its also good to see that theres a new Hart Foundation in town


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Maybe they could eventually challenge for the tag titles. The thing about the undisputed title thing is that they are allowed to be on any show which should be a handy tool to give the champions exposure, but so farthey have only been seen on Raw and barely at that. WWE needs to utalize this fact to push whoever they have as champs.

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At 5/14/09 10:15 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Maybe they could eventually challenge for the tag titles. The thing about the undisputed title thing is that they are allowed to be on any show which should be a handy tool to give the champions exposure, but so farthey have only been seen on Raw and barely at that. WWE needs to utalize this fact to push whoever they have as champs.

i really hope wwe made that decision because of what you said
if they make the champs start to challenge teams for one set of the tag titles, its gonna piss me off


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At 5/14/09 10:48 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: i really hope wwe made that decision because of what you said
if they make the champs start to challenge teams for one set of the tag titles, its gonna piss me off

From what I hear it is a situation where like the Undisputed Title back in the beginning of the brand split, the undisputed tag champs work any show, but once they lose those titles, they become exclusive to the show they were drafted to. So once The Colons drop the belts, they become exclusive to RAW again. I do think there is tremendous opportunity having these belts focused on a bit more they can be a great tool for getting some young talent quick exposure (hey, if they aren't going to really push teams as money drawers, they should look at them more like Miz and Morrison then, a vehicle to get two guys to improve and eventually split to become great singles talents). I like the idea of eventually flipping those belts to this new Hart Foundation.

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Smackdown was it's usual brand of excellence last night. The opening tag match in paticular was fantastic and the ending had an old-school feel about it. Take some notes Raw.


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At 5/16/09 09:21 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Smackdown was it's usual brand of excellence last night. The opening tag match in paticular was fantastic and the ending had an old-school feel about it. Take some notes Raw.

Yeah SD was really great last night. The opening match was many shades of awesome and I really enjoyed the work of both Edge and Jericho in the main event. It was also good to see R-Truth get a victory as I think he can be a strong player on SD if given the chance. Yeah his enterance is a tad annoying but it pumps up the crowd, which is exactly what its supposed to do.

I really thought CM Punk was going to cash in his briefcase, but he got stopped again. I think he and Umaga are going to have a kickass match on Sunday.

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At 4/18/03 01:52 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: I don't know that I really want a membership here...I'm not happy with the current WWE, RAW seems to be where careers go to die...watching guys like RVD and Tommy Dreamer, jerk the curtain, when they used to do main events in ECW sickens and disheartens me...or watching Smackdown and seeing Tazz sit there on color (not that he's bad at it, he's great, he really grew into the role and adds a lot of credibility to the matches he's calling, which is what a color guy is supposed to do) when I know he could kick the living hell out of most of these so-called "main eventers" in a legit fight in the parking lot anytime.

Trust me, I know what you mean. I hate to see all of Batista's or John Cena's talent go to waste, especially of all the new "main-event" match types now-a-days.

:. I'm sick of Vince's "sports-entertainment", tired of quick fixes...tired of watching Hulk Hogan matches...tired of watching Goldberg, I didn't like him when he was "da man" in WCW, and I like him even less now that he'll beat Rock, than lose to Triple H in June, cause H won't lose to anybody who might draw more money than him (hey, don't believe me, who was the last guy H lost the belt to? HBK, I love HBK but...at this point, can you honestly call him a full time draw?), H is already lobbying to get the win over Jobberg, and I frankly think it sucks, bastard is making tons of money, and he's just going to be another high profile victim for Hunter, god I'm so sick of this...and yet I'll still tune in monday and thursday...but I've stopped watching PPVs unless it's a big one, or a really jacked card.

First, Triple H lost belt last to Randy Orton, FYI. Second, I agree that I'm not sure if I want to join either. Even though I'm a HUGE Raw fan, (John Cena is DA MAN!) I don't think that Vince McMahon should keep going with the quick fixes. On the bright side, Vickie Guerroro (is that how you spell it?) is doing an awesome job keeping arguments and rivalrys out of the show. But if you think about it, wrestling was better back in the '80s and '90s, when WWE was called WWF (World Wrestling Federation). Final line, I don't think I want to join.

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At 5/16/09 02:05 PM, FlashDefender787 wrote: First, Triple H lost belt last to Randy Orton, FYI.

Are...are you replying to Avie's post on the first page? From over SIX years ago?

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At 5/16/09 07:50 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Are...are you replying to Avie's post on the first page? From over SIX years ago?

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i.. i think he is lol


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At 5/16/09 07:50 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Are...are you replying to Avie's post on the first page? From over SIX years ago?

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i... i think he is lol

anyway, smackdown was pretty good. I'm glad they didn't start the show off with a 15 min opening segment like they normally do, and just went right to a match.. man that tag match was pretty awesome, this drafting to smackdown has really brought out the best in Charlie Haas! I don't even care that he went through the whole "unexplained heel turn when drafted" like Alicia Fox, him and Shelton Benjamin really do work well together and I'm hoping Shelty B can help Charlie get up in the bigger leagues.

It's good to see R-Truth get a win, considering he's been on a bit of a losing streak lately, but i don't think him and Mike Knox mesh that well in the ring.. It seems like they're getting prepared to fued.. but any fued that's with Knox, seems to be forgettable..

I finally see who this Ricky Ortiz guy is, he actually wasn't so bad considering he was up against Jeff Hardy, but once Hardy got his momentum, Ortiz was pretty much toast.. not bad of a showing though.. also i liked his pants.

I'm liking that WWE is really giving Dolph Ziggler the chance to shine on the blue brand, seeing as his run on RAW was mediocre. I liked his finishing move (it's sorta like Shelton Benjamins finisher, except he jumps behind them instead). But now it seems like he's been put in a fued with The Great Khali. Just like Mike Knox, any fued with Khali seems to be even more forgettable.

Edge vs Jericho was a tad bit confusing, but different in a good way, both are 2 very skilled wrestlers, and its been a long time since WWE has had a main event between 2 heels, i think the crowd were more behind Edge on this one. Good match none of the less and once again Deja Vu kicks in when CM Punk comes to cash in his breifcase but Umaga interferes before him doing so.
I remember CM Punk saying he would like to cash in his breifcase at JD, infront of his home crowd, and i'm gonna stick to his word.. i think he will indeed cash it in on sunday, but will he win?...


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