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At 4/28/09 07:29 PM, Affix wrote: I'm glad Batista beat Big Show, I would rather like to see Batista be champion again(whoever won the match was obviously going to beat Orton at Judgement Day).

Uh...if you're planning to order the show based on that logic...I'd put that 40 bucks back in your wallet and see if anything else pops up on that card you want to see.

How bout Tommy Dreamer proving that he can still go? Even with the DQ finish, his match with Christian tonight was great.

It was also good to see him main eventing in MSG.. Regardless of whether "ECW" is the C brand or not.

At 4/28/09 10:16 PM, pepeatumi wrote: How bout Tommy Dreamer proving that he can still go? Even with the DQ finish, his match with Christian tonight was great.

It was also good to see him main eventing in MSG.. Regardless of whether "ECW" is the C brand or not.

I was thinking the same thing. I really enjoyed his match with Christian. i hoep he gets another shot in the near future.

So...Helms is a backstage interview guy now.. Sometimes I hate the WWE.

Finleys match was good too. It was a solid bout with a lot of back and forth action and a decent finish. I think Kidd might have a future with the company.

Worst. Gimmick Change. Ever.

At 4/29/09 04:35 PM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Worst. Gimmick Change. Ever.

Wow....i'm glad i almost never watch ECW. What is this a army gimmick? a cheap one at that....a US flag on it to...wow i thought he was proud to be a russian not just go around and wear a cheap army costume. Good going creative team.

At 4/29/09 04:35 PM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Worst. Gimmick Change. Ever.

i.. i just can't take anybody seriously when they wear one of those hats..

At 4/29/09 08:45 AM, Outlaw88 wrote:

It was also good to see him main eventing in MSG.. Regardless of whether "ECW" is the C brand or not.

I'm really glad Tommy got to have the spotlight and get treated with respect in what will most likely be his last match in MSG. It really is a shame that WWE doesn't see more in Tommy as a worker and a teacher for their newer talents. Just another instance of WWE not knowing what end is up anymore it seems.

I was thinking the same thing. I really enjoyed his match with Christian. i hoep he gets another shot in the near future.

If he doesn't sign a new deal soon, that's probably the last one he gets.

So...Helms is a backstage interview guy now.. Sometimes I hate the WWE.

JR said it's mostly because Helms is not yet 100%. The man had a SEVERE neck injury, there was a gigantic question mark as to whether or not he'd ever wrestle again, and who knows what could happen to him should he re-injure it? If they pull the guy out of the ring because he or they don't believe he's 100% but they give him something else to do on TV, and they pay him, I'm not only good with that...I'm GREAT with that. I like to think that part of being a fan of somebody is wanting the best quality of life possible for them, even if that means they can't do what you'd like them to do to entertain you.

Finleys match was good too. It was a solid bout with a lot of back and forth action and a decent finish. I think Kidd might have a future with the company.

Even if he doesn't, at least they're giving him the real chance to prove that he COULD have one. That's something WWE needs to do, and why I'm happy you've got the Tuesday night show to do that with. No, it isn't ECW, but it is a good way for WWE to have young talents get their feet wet and try to make a name for themselves before hitting the big shows.

At 4/29/09 08:45 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: So...Helms is a backstage interview guy now.. Sometimes I hate the WWE.

i think it might have something to do with his neck injury

but i totally marked out when he said "WASSUP WID DAT?!"

Now that I know the whole story with Helms I'm fine with it. I didn't know he still wasn't at 100%.

I have been hearing that Jeff may be playing hardball in terms of his contract to get a better deal rathe than not sigining at all. I think he is looking to get a deal like Taker's where he has to travel less but still gets a big paycheck. We'll see how that turns out.

Is it me or does it look like Legacy might break up?In recent weeks, WWE has been going about making backstage segments with Ted DiBiase criticizing Randy Orton behind his back with Cody Rhodes seemingly siding with Orton. I have heard that the idea behind this is to eventually turn DiBiase and make him a top babyface. What does eveyone think of this? I could see Cody Rhodes as the next top babyface make him stand out and since he is smaller he could be made to look vicious and they could build him up with some major wins over time and maby he could be the next HBK or HHH.

I've heard for quite awhile they believe Dibiase is money and a future top guy. The question would of course be "is he ready to start on that road now?" and I'd say probably. The Legacy idea has really been a pretty big failure and done nothing for Dibiase or Rhodes as Randy has been made to look pretty damn ineffective so they've then gotten tainted by the association, and they've wound up as Triple H's punching bags. Maybe it is time to split that grouping up and see what you can get from the pieces.

At 5/1/09 01:31 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: The Legacy idea has really been a pretty big failure and done nothing for Dibiase or Rhodes as Randy has been made to look pretty damn ineffective so they've then gotten tainted by the association, and they've wound up as Triple H's punching bags.

i have to agree with you on that one
but i think the main reason he's turing face is because he has a movie coming out later this year. the marine 2 if i remember clearly..

From wrestlezone.com
"WWE Hall Of Famer The Iron Sheik was on both "The Howard Stern Show" and the "Opie & Anthony" show today. Apparently, Iron Sheik was pounding booze all morning and wound up urinating on himself live on the "Opie & Anthony" show."
link to pics.

That guy is a mess.

At 5/1/09 08:18 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: From wrestlezone.com
"WWE Hall Of Famer The Iron Sheik was on both "The Howard Stern Show" and the "Opie & Anthony" show today. Apparently, Iron Sheik was pounding booze all morning and wound up urinating on himself live on the "Opie & Anthony" show."
link to pics.

That guy is a mess.

you just figured that out now? lol
still i love that guy, awesome wrestler back in the day
and still very entertaining, if you can, try to listen to a howard stern clip with him and bubba the love sponge in a heated arguement over hulk hogan, sheiks medals and many more

if you look it up on youtube i think you'll be able to find it

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Umaga's back, and he's lost a few kilos too..

or pounds to you americans...

Spoilers.

Smackdown was excellent this week, all the matches were pretty damn good. I'm looking forward to seeing Morrison/Jericho somewhere down the road. Those two could have some excellent matches. Hardy/Edge for the title should also be really good, and despite being a massive Hardy mark I'm hoping Edge gets to keep the title for a while yet. Maybe have Matt cost him it and finish it with a TLC at Extreme Rules. Like someone suggested, some sort of contract which would also work out nicely if Jeff decides not to resign.

SD was really good last night. I didn't know you could stop someone cashing in the MITB, but at least it went like that instead of him giving to the ref and then Umaga kicks him. The confrontation between Morrison and Jericho could be interesting. Are they going to turn Morrison a face now?

So it will be Jeff Hardy bs Edge for the title. If Jeff is leaving he may as well put Edge over too.

Edge should've left loooong ago. That guy is terrible! no sport at all

At 5/2/09 02:06 PM, CloneA12 wrote: Edge should've left loooong ago. That guy is terrible! no sport at all

What are you takling about? He is the top heel on smackdown and is one of the top preformers in the company today. He is in the mainevent scene and has very good matchs most of the time :::i'm talking about wrestlemania 25::: Just because he is a heel does not mean he is a shitty wrestler which is not the case here. Just take a look at jericho in the past year he is doing thing that are worse than edge. so respond to me with some of your reasonings.

The 2009 WWE Annual Shareholders Meeting was held this morning (May 1st). Here are some of the newsworthy items from the meeting that i though were interesting some were cut out.

* Vince McMahon said that he is not interested in running an MMA promotion.

* Vince McMahon said that WWE is looking into creating a Wednesday night TV program. He feels that it would not be overexposure due to the huge number of TV stations available & that being on TV every weeknight would make it easier for the fans to follow along with the storylines or catch up if they miss any of the TV shows.

* A shareholder requested the creation of a WWE affinity program. Vince McMahon agreed to look into possibly doing that.

* Donna Goldsmith said that WWE has major marketing plans for Summerslam 2009, including a huge party leading into the event. Vince McMahon predicted that Summerslam 2009 will sell out.

* Vince McMahon said that Playboy wanted to work with WWE again this year, but Vince turned down the offer because of WWE's new "PG environment".

* Vince McMahon said that WWE was planning a tour of China, but ran into some problems. He feels that China will be a big part of WWE's future.

* Vince McMahon said that WWE is considering canceling it's tour of Mexico in late May due to the swine flu outbreak. He also announced a Mexican tour for October of 2009.

* Vince McMahon partially blamed the decline of pay-per-view buys on more fans choosing to watch pay-per-views with each other rather than individually ordering the pay-per-views.

* A shareholder asked if "Mr. McMahon" could be the person who ends the Undertaker's WrestleMania undefeated streak. Vince McMahon said that him ending the streak would probably anger a lot of people, so it's unlikely to happen.

* Vince McMahon said that both him & his wife will be participating in all of the upcoming earnings conference calls.

* Vince McMahon said that him appearing in a movie would be a bad idea due to his lack of patience & time.

* Vince McMahon said that holding WrestleMania overseas would be difficult because it would have to air live in North America. He mentioned that Summerslam 1992 from London, England aired in North America on a tape delay & it ended up being a bad business decision.

Vince also said that they've signed a sponsoship with Pepsi, sparking rumours that CM Punk's about to bring back the Pepsi Plunge.

At 5/2/09 04:07 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Vince also said that they've signed a sponsoship with Pepsi, sparking rumours that CM Punk's about to bring back the Pepsi Plunge.

I don't see them doing that, as they could see that as taking away from HHH a bit. It would be pretty awesome if they did though.

At 5/2/09 03:26 PM, idiot-buster wrote: The 2009 WWE Annual Shareholders Meeting was held this morning (May 1st). Here are some of the newsworthy items from the meeting that i though were interesting some were cut out.

Oh god this should be good. I've been waiting for this one actually.

* Vince McMahon said that he is not interested in running an MMA promotion.

Can't blame him, Vince learned with the XFL he doesn't understand actual sport, and for him the biggest problem he'd face immediately is spending lots of time and money building a guy, and then if he loses in his first real fight there's nothing you can do. I think he'd fall into the trap of EliteXC when Kimbo Slice was exposed, or he'd be screwed because he'd be too tempted to at least work the outcomes if not the actual fights. Maybe this is something Shane can play with down the line, but with finances down, it makes no sense to get into a sport or a business they don't really understand. Smartest thing I've heard him say in awhile.

* Vince McMahon said that WWE is looking into creating a Wednesday night TV program. He feels that it would not be overexposure due to the huge number of TV stations available & that being on TV every weeknight would make it easier for the fans to follow along with the storylines or catch up if they miss any of the TV shows.

You better have the creative teams split even fucking further then, unless this is a recap show. You guys cannot keep adding on programming when you don't have a product people want to watch. It's money, it's time, it's resources that you're putting out that could probably be better used elsewhere. Unless this is on a network giving them great exposure, why? Don't see the need.

* A shareholder requested the creation of a WWE affinity program. Vince McMahon agreed to look into possibly doing that.

What exactly would such a program do? I'm vague on what exactly was asked of Vince here, is this supposed to be like a discount thing? Because as long as shit is down, guarantee you'll never see that. They have to milk those diehards so they can NOT have to change anything they're doing too much.

* Donna Goldsmith said that WWE has major marketing plans for Summerslam 2009, including a huge party leading into the event. Vince McMahon predicted that Summerslam 2009 will sell out.

Birds go tweet, I believe it will sell out too. It's a big 4 show, usually one of their strongest cards of the year, so I do think they'll get the sell out, and if they don't? They'll paper the arena and claim it was a sell out. :)

* Vince McMahon said that Playboy wanted to work with WWE again this year, but Vince turned down the offer because of WWE's new "PG environment".

That is indeed a shoot. Can't say you're marketing to kids and have your women appear naked. Even though Playboy is pretty classy pornography, it's still pornography.

* Vince McMahon said that WWE was planning a tour of China, but ran into some problems. He feels that China will be a big part of WWE's future.

It does seem a pretty untapped market for them, but I wonder if the problems were of a governmental nature. That is a great market for them though I think if they can successfully break into it.

* Vince McMahon said that WWE is considering canceling it's tour of Mexico in late May due to the swine flu outbreak. He also announced a Mexican tour for October of 2009.

Can't blame him for erring on the side of caution. The last thing they need is for guys to become sick and they can't work TV.

* Vince McMahon partially blamed the decline of pay-per-view buys on more fans choosing to watch pay-per-views with each other rather than individually ordering the pay-per-views.

OH SHUT UP!!! I've been doing that since 1999 or 2000, AND THE PRODUCT WAS STILL GOOD AND YOU MADE ASS LOADS OF MONEY!!! Buy rates are down because you're audience SHRUNK, pure and simple. You're audience shrunk because they don't like what you give them, until you address that, you will never increase buy rates. People had friends they could watch the shows with during the Attitude Era too, that's not a new phenomenon. Once again they'd rather make an excuse then deal with the root cause. Typical. Stupidest statement so far.

* A shareholder asked if "Mr. McMahon" could be the person who ends the Undertaker's WrestleMania undefeated streak. Vince McMahon said that him ending the streak would probably anger a lot of people, so it's unlikely to happen.

No way should it EVER happen!!! He does that and his audience will shrink to probably around nill. The over pushing of himself and his family long past the shelf life of their characters has been a major factor in audience attrition I feel, and this would just destroy any credibility they have left. Taker should never lose at Mania, but if he does, I'd rather it be the Brooklyn Brawler then Vince McMahon.

* Vince McMahon said that both him & his wife will be participating in all of the upcoming earnings conference calls.

So it'll be double the bullshit and disinformation? Christ this'll be fun...

* Vince McMahon said that him appearing in a movie would be a bad idea due to his lack of patience & time.

Not to mention he'd have to be the director, because if he wasn't, the thing would never get done because he'd be screaming at the guy every take. If Vince isn't in complete control of that sort of thing, he has no interest in it. If he isn't "The Boss" there's just no point.

* Vince McMahon said that holding WrestleMania overseas would be difficult because it would have to air live in North America. He mentioned that Summerslam 1992 from London, England aired in North America on a tape delay & it ended up being a bad business decision.

I'd like a little more info there, because I thought they did really well with that show, certainly it's fondly remembered. But for Mania? Yeah, I can't see it happening because like he says, it needs to air live in the US or else the internet will be covering and spoiling the show which will most likely cost them buys. They cannot tape delay to the states in this day and age. That's where the bulk of the money is anyway, North American buys, overseas buys are slightly less cash.

The heart and soul of ECW, Tommy Dreamer, may have competed in his final match last night. If it is then he should have some position in WWE

In Dreamer's recent blog, he hinted that last night could have been his final - in front of a jam packed Madison Square Garden crowd. Dreamer promised he would retire if he was unable to capture the ECW title before his WWE contract expired.

Last night, he was awarded an opportunity to fulfill his final quest in professional wrestling - wrestle Christian Cage for the ECW Championship. Dreamer's quest was quickly shattered when Jack Swagger attacked him and Christian, which resulted in the match to be halted and Dreamer winning via DQ.

Dreamer has been overlooked by man, although he was never considered a Ric Flair or Ricky Steamboat, Dreamer has always been a solid and consistent wrestler. The love he has for ECW, despite it turning in to a watered down version, is beyond what anyone would imagine. He lives and breathes the original ECW and the new ECW.

If this is indeed his final match, he will be the final ECW Original to put his heart and soul in to the WWE version of ECW. As a fan of ECW, it does take a little while to fathom that Tommy Dreamer's exit from ECW came without the title.

Where does Tommy go from here? I hope he is offered a job with WWE, whether it be as an agent or in some other fashion. He has put everything in to the WWE and never made any real complaints. It has been said that he would be given a position in WWE if he signs another contract with them.

I think it would be a good exit for Dreamer since he did get to wrestle at MSG in a really great match. It just sucks that WWE couldn't bring themselves to give him the title for a little while. On one hand I'd hate to see him leave since Dreamre is awesome. On the other hand he's been losing so much and is getting up there in age so it might just be his time to leave.

I heard that WWE plans on replacing Tiffany (her contract runs out soon), with Tommy Dreamer. I think Tiffany is not that great on the mic, and with somebody like Tommy, he could bring some interesting stuff to ECW.

At 5/3/09 07:30 PM, idiot-buster wrote: The heart and soul of ECW, Tommy Dreamer, may have competed in his final match last night. If it is then he should have some position in WWE

Whoa, let's be clear here, cause this is how dumb rumors start. What Tommy may have completed Tuesday night was his LAST MSG MATCH!! NOT his last match period. Tommy has at least another month or so left on his contract from what I understand. He is NOT done as of yet, but that may the last time he works MSG.

In Dreamer's recent blog, he hinted that last night could have been his final - in front of a jam packed Madison Square Garden crowd. Dreamer promised he would retire if he was unable to capture the ECW title before his WWE contract expired.

Again, his final MSG match. Tommy has a little while to go, unless he signed that new deal.

Dreamer has been overlooked by man, although he was never considered a Ric Flair or Ricky Steamboat, Dreamer has always been a solid and consistent wrestler. The love he has for ECW, despite it turning in to a watered down version, is beyond what anyone would imagine. He lives and breathes the original ECW and the new ECW.

Everything Tommy has in his life, he has because of ECW. He met his wife in ECW, he has his children because of that meeting. ECW gave him the exposure to work for WWE, every oppurtunity Tommy has had in wrestling and because of wrestling in the last 10 years is a direct result of his working for ECW. Tommy is the heart and soul, but moreover he's a very solid worker who they could be getting more out of on a show that is obviously a means for developing their young talents, that is a guy that should be used more prominently, especially as beating him could be a means to really establish young heels as the crowd really loves him and feels a connection with him.

If this is indeed his final match, he will be the final ECW Original to put his heart and soul in to the WWE version of ECW. As a fan of ECW, it does take a little while to fathom that Tommy Dreamer's exit from ECW came without the title.

It's not ECW, and Tommy isn't leaving yet. Seriously, just because it has the letters, it stopped being in any way related to ECW when the December to Dismember went on the air and Paul Heyman was told very clearly to shut up he was just another employee. For me Big Show is the last real ECW champion. Some people will disagree I'm sure and say the relaunch wasn't good or true from the start, but I feel like up until that PPV, it was at least somewhat like ECW.

Where does Tommy go from here? I hope he is offered a job with WWE, whether it be as an agent or in some other fashion. He has put everything in to the WWE and never made any real complaints. It has been said that he would be given a position in WWE if he signs another contract with them.

I know the GM thing has been bandied about, which I do believe he could do, but come on, how much has an ECW GM really done? It's not a show that lends itself to that sort of character since it's pretty much 40 something minutes of action. That spot hasn't mattered since Heyman, so again while I think Tommy can do it, and I'd never begrudge him cashing a check to not take bumps (lord knows the man earned it), but again it just seems like here's a guy that has talents beyond something like that that could be better used. He still has some gas in the tank in the ring, and a desire to be doing that still, he did pretty damn well in talent relations and they looked at him as I recall as somebody who could totally and completely manage the developmental system (and that was back when there were two territories, not one). This is a guy that frankly I think the WORST use of him is giving him a non-wrestling role that really won't matter or see him getting a lot of air time anyway.

At 5/3/09 11:57 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: It's not ECW, and Tommy isn't leaving yet. Seriously, just because it has the letters, it stopped being in any way related to ECW when the December to Dismember went on the air and Paul Heyman was told very clearly to shut up he was just another employee. For me Big Show is the last real ECW champion. Some people will disagree I'm sure and say the relaunch wasn't good or true from the start, but I feel like up until that PPV, it was at least somewhat like ECW.

it was losing the ECW feel then, but when it really died for me was the halloween special, and dreamer himself dressed as heyman, and styles and tazz were forced to pretend that they had no idea who he was dressed as.. i remember not watching ECW for close to a year after that..

I know the GM thing has been bandied about, which I do believe he could do, but come on, how much has an ECW GM really done? It's not a show that lends itself to that sort of character since it's pretty much 40 something minutes of action. That spot hasn't mattered since Heyman, so again while I think Tommy can do it, and I'd never begrudge him cashing a check to not take bumps (lord knows the man earned it), but again it just seems like here's a guy that has talents beyond something like that that could be better used. He still has some gas in the tank in the ring, and a desire to be doing that still, he did pretty damn well in talent relations and they looked at him as I recall as somebody who could totally and completely manage the developmental system (and that was back when there were two territories, not one). This is a guy that frankly I think the WORST use of him is giving him a non-wrestling role that really won't matter or see him getting a lot of air time anyway.

Sure Dreamer would probably never work in the ring again after this but still, having him as a GM, its a plus. In the end of the day, it's still an on-air role so people would still get to see him, he also seems to fit the role very well compared to others. Also i've always like the wrestler/former wrestler as GM, Stone Cold, Mick Foley, Kurt Angle, William Regal just to name a few have all stood out as GMs when they were given the role.

Guss what guys i'm going to a live monday night raw tonight out of Buffal Ny. I'm so excited for this, because this is my first show that i'm going to that is televised.

I missed most ofRaw but I just got finished reading the results. So it looks like Shane will be out of the picture for a while. That is a fine way of getting him out of the storyline so the actual wrestlers will get the attention. I'm also guessing that Regal will be gunning for the U.S. Title. Not a bad fued there since both he and MVP are great workers.

Well my work schedual changed so that I'll be working Tuesday nights. Guess I won't be seeing ECW for a long time now. I'll have to make an effort to keep up with it and watch some of the results at the web site.