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There is an article on wrestlezone that is talking about Vince and his disliking of Christian. I don't know how true it is but you can read about it here.

Vince is probably not very happy with the fact that ratings have been down. Heading into WM with low numbers is a good cause for worry I suppose.

I'm looking forward to SD tonight. I want to see how Edge handles his situation.

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So I'm on MSN, and I find this.

An interview with HHH! Its actually pretty good.

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That is a pretty good interview. I'm glad HHH was candid enough to talk about him beign worried about future storylines rather than be in character for it.

SD was pretty good last night. I liked that MVP got the U.S. Title again but it makes me think he won't win the MITB match. Which may be what WWE wants me to think. Honestly I am still rooting for MVP, but I also would like to see Benjamin win.

Taker and JBL had a decent match as did HBK and Kane. Seeing Jeff Hardy flip out with that chair was a definite highlight though.

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Great, Kendrick and Jackson got pretty buried. Honestly, it's such a waste of potential. You have to wonder what things would be like for the two of them right now if Kendrick hadn't fucked up his push by enjoying the ganja.


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At 3/21/09 09:39 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Great, Kendrick and Jackson got pretty buried. Honestly, it's such a waste of potential. You have to wonder what things would be like for the two of them right now if Kendrick hadn't fucked up his push by enjoying the ganja.

yeh and they got the "jobber entrance" which is a bad sign..

hey i found a video of trish stratus, she has a whole new look, she looks pretty nice, looks classier
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At 3/21/09 11:11 PM, Random-Her03 wrote: yeh and they got the "jobber entrance" which is a bad sign..

That may be but he was up against Jeff Hardy. One has a match at WM and the other does not. This match wasn't about Hardy and Kendrick. It was just about Hardy.

hey i found a video of trish stratus, she has a whole new look, she looks pretty nice, looks classier
Trish does the weather

Nice, I'll have to check that out.

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At 3/22/09 10:22 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: That may be but he was up against Jeff Hardy. One has a match at WM and the other does not. This match wasn't about Hardy and Kendrick. It was just about Hardy.

oh no no no, i didn't mean hardy and kendrick, i meant kendrick and ezekial

Nice, I'll have to check that out.

yeh plus she seemed to have removed her breast implants, i dunno if this was recent but yeh it makes her look more natural and nicer looking (i've always been more of an ass man myself lol)

no, not billy gunn...

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So I'm predicting that Miz and Morrison win the undisputed tag belts at Mania and head to RAW. Honestly we really need to condense more of these belts down, let's just have one women's champ again, lets have one mid-level champion (meaning at least the fusion of the IC and US belts, but probably those should merge with the ECW title). The brand extension is in no way a hard split anymore, it's just a base roster of talent you can use on a show now. Having this many belts made sense when there was more of a hard split and the idea was guys couldn't go to the other show without being traded or a special storyline to explain it. You had single brand PPVs so you needed more titles to even things out and sweeten those contests. But with the way things are now it's too freakin much and it's unnecessary. Time to pair things down down to a more manageable level.

As far as the Mania build? Ugh, it's been shit, and they jacked up the price by another 5 bucks!!! Seriously? Really? If I didn't know a guy who still owes me money and will probably cover my end of this PPV, I'd probably skip it in protest (and I honestly still should). WWE deserves a bad number for this show, a really bad number for the way they're doing things. But the problem with rooting for that of course is that a bad Mania number means a lot of people will be losing their jobs as a result. Mania is the big show and WWE basically sets their yearly budgets and such by it. So a bad Mania number will lead to another major blood letting at Titan, perhaps even bigger then that 10% reduction earlier in the year.

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I think the reasoning behind the Tag belt merger is that they were having Miz and Morrison appear on all three shows while being defending tag champs anyway, and the fact that there are so little tag teams to begin with that they must have figured it was pointless to have two existing tag titles. I have to disagree with you on the merging of the mid-level belts as they can be used to establish up and coming talent. That and they have been more consistent with keeping them to their respective brand. Yeah we saw JBL battle Taker last week, but it wasn't about the IC title.

But yeah there doesn't need to be two women's titles either.

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At 3/23/09 01:58 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I think the reasoning behind the Tag belt merger is that they were having Miz and Morrison appear on all three shows while being defending tag champs anyway, and the fact that there are so little tag teams to begin with that they must have figured it was pointless to have two existing tag titles. I have to disagree with you on the merging of the mid-level belts as they can be used to establish up and coming talent. That and they have been more consistent with keeping them to their respective brand. Yeah we saw JBL battle Taker last week, but it wasn't about the IC title.

And THAT'S THE PROBLEM!!! MVP and JBL are CHAMPIONS!! But nobody seems to want their belts, or want them on a consistent basis. Being the IC or US champion means jack fucking shit, it only works if you're a babyface that the people ALREADY like, and why can't the ECW belt (which hey, may not even be the ECW belt soon since Sci Fi and WWE are supposed to be "re-branding" that show, and hopefully it'll be in part so they can drop those letters and let them rest in peace) be defended across all the shows? Giving it and it's champion more exposure. The Monday Night Wars proved it too, if you have too many belts, they can't all be special. The World title (or A world title I should say) is always going to be the most important belt out there, and that's fine, it always SHOULD be. But if I have say, four titles underneath that, how can I really and truly justify them as all being important? How can I make it seem like they all matter if they serve essentially the same function? That's the problem here. The IC and US titles are basically just mid-carder belts with nothing special about them at present.

The Tag Titles to me should be a belt on a similar par with the world title, in that it makes you the best TEAM, like the world champion is the biggest star, Ditto a women's belt, and (if one existed) a lightweight belt.

I agree we need a mid-level title so guys get that experience of being a champion before they get a run at the top, but we don't need three, we need one. We would only need that many if there was more of a hard split, but there isn't. It's too much for a company that is not really keeping it's shows seperate. This is not me saying let's end the brand split, this is me making a plea for sanity, and for if a guy (or guys) can himself (themselves) champion(s) it should fucking well mean something. Now it only really matters in like 2 cases.

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how awesome was that promo that shawn michaels delivered?
haven't seen a great promo like that in ages

also apparently stephanie mcmahon was legitimately hurt after the whole ending segment on raw


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At 3/24/09 04:41 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: how awesome was that promo that shawn michaels delivered?
haven't seen a great promo like that in ages

I personally thought it ran a little long.


also apparently stephanie mcmahon was legitimately hurt after the whole ending segment on raw

IMO, they're getting a little beyond suspension-of-disbelief with some of this stuff now. The "home invasion" wasn't as bad as wielding guns or attempted vehicular homicide angles, but there are some crimes where it doesn't matter if the victim doesn't want to press charges, the DA will see that your ass is still going on trial.

I know we're supposed to close our eyes and pretend really hard that it makes sense, but as a former law student, my eyes keep seeing the cracks beginning to show whenever they do their selective law enforcement storylines. It's not quite as ridiculous as the Undertaker using lightning powers, but still, tort law and criminal law are two very, very different things...

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As you guy may or may not have noticed, WWE will be releasing a film called 12 Rounds, starring John Cena (Why they haven't hyped it up is a mystery to me >_>).

But you see, John Cena isn't the only wrestlers with a movie coming out. Everyone's favorite Olympic gold medalist is also revealing a movie. Oh, yes.

I give you... ENDGAME!!!

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At 3/24/09 11:46 AM, pepeatumi wrote: (Why they haven't hyped it up is a mystery to me >_>).

Are you shitting me!?


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At 3/24/09 12:36 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote:
At 3/24/09 11:46 AM, pepeatumi wrote: (Why they haven't hyped it up is a mystery to me >_>).
Are you shitting me!?

Really?! I must have missed it! They only played it a few million times too...

Ah, sarcasm.

So it seems the all diva night thing got canned. Or perhaps moved as we are going to see Morrison in action against Carlito as well as a VIP lounge segment with all the MITB competitors involved. So now I have reason to watch it tonight.

Raw was ok, but I honestly had a tough time paying attention to it. Too much hype and not enough decent action.

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At 3/24/09 12:36 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote:
At 3/24/09 11:46 AM, pepeatumi wrote: (Why they haven't hyped it up is a mystery to me >_>).
Are you shitting me!?

Just to let you know. If I add the shifty eyes at the end of a sentence, it was more than likely a sarcastic remark.

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At 3/24/09 04:41 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: also apparently stephanie mcmahon was legitimately hurt after the whole ending segment on raw

I don't buy it, haven't read it on any of my legit sources that would know (PWInsider) and I saw that DDT, Steph took that bump textbook and Orton delivered it textbook. So other then the bumps and bruises one might get from the standard taking of a DDT, can't imagine this was serious

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ECW was good last night. I enjoyed the opening match between Morrison and Carlito as well as the tag match between Dreamer/Bourne and Swagger/Kidd. The VIP lounge was also entertaning to watch as well.

From wrestlezone:
During the Ric Flair beatdown from Chris Jericho on last night's WWE RAW, Flair suffered a bad wound on his head from the shot with the handheld video camera. After the show, Flair needed a dozen staples to close the wound. [Credit: PWInsider.com]

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At 3/25/09 08:34 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: ECW was good last night. I enjoyed the opening match between Morrison and Carlito as well as the tag match between Dreamer/Bourne and Swagger/Kidd. The VIP lounge was also entertaning to watch as well.

Agree with everything except the VIP lounge part. I was expecting (Or hoping for) a big brawl to end the show, and instead we get all participants saying that they're going to win the MITB.

And I have to say this, its a shame that neither Evan Bourne nor Jack Swagger will be wrestling at WM this year.

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At 3/25/09 10:33 AM, pepeatumi wrote: And I have to say this, its a shame that neither Evan Bourne nor Jack Swagger will be wrestling at WM this year.

I do agree about Evan Bourne he would fit in perfect in the money in the bank match. I would love to see him jump off a 20ft ladder. this year the money in the bank match seems not as good as the years past. They put in 4/5 guys who you almost never see in thoes types of matches and never go airborne. That was a stupid mistake of the creative teams part.

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At 3/25/09 09:43 PM, idiot-buster wrote: I do agree about Evan Bourne he would fit in perfect in the money in the bank match. I would love to see him jump off a 20ft ladder.

i finally figured it out, im guessing that they didn't put bourne in the MITB match because they don't wanna risk it
he just came fresh off an injury only 2 weeks ago and i don't think it would be wise to put him in such a dangerous match so quickly

but i agree, putting him off the whole WM card altogether is just bogus man...


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I think with Bourne what happened was they want to try and promote the Mania card a little further in advance, and MITB has become a big selling point. Plus, I don't think they were 100% sure that he'd be back in time for the PPV.

Also wanted to ask you guys a question, my boards are going to be in need of a revamp. Possibly a total relaunch (some issues with the old database) and I was curious if you guys would be interested in having a wrestling forum over there? I know the one Red did didn't really work out but this would be something built into an existing forum with an existing NG userbase. So you'd have the wrestling section, but other parts to hang out on as well, and it'd allow people to have their own threads and stuff for news and other stuff that goes on in here. Let me know if you have any interest.

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At 3/26/09 01:04 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Also wanted to ask you guys a question, my boards are going to be in need of a revamp. Possibly a total relaunch (some issues with the old database) and I was curious if you guys would be interested in having a wrestling forum over there?

I'm all for it. It gives me yet another place to spread the word about some of the lesser know wrestling feds out there.

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I'd be cool with it.

Here is an article talking about the WWE offering assistance in fighting substance abuse to former employees. You can read about it here.

It's good they are doing that.

Mexican star Abismo Negro (Black Hole or Black Abyss) aka Winners in AAA, whose real name is Andrés Alejandro Palomeque González, was found dead, floating in a river in El Rosario, Mexico earlier today.
You can read the full article here...

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At 3/26/09 01:04 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:
Also wanted to ask you guys a question, my boards are going to be in need of a revamp. Possibly a total relaunch (some issues with the old database) and I was curious if you guys would be interested in having a wrestling forum over there?

sounds good

hey here's an interesting note
source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

-- As reported earlier, Big Show was originally earmarked to take part in the Money in the Bank
Match at WrestleMania XXV, but Vince McMahon decided to put him in the World Heavyweight Championship bout instead. Mark Henry ended up taking place in the bout. Had Big Show stayed in the match, he was expected to win the briefcase.


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At 3/26/09 01:09 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Mexican star Abismo Negro (Black Hole or Black Abyss) aka Winners in AAA, whose real name is Andrés Alejandro Palomeque González, was found dead, floating in a river in El Rosario, Mexico earlier today.

Black Abyss. This actually happened a couple of days ago. He was supposedly on a bus, suffered some sort of nervous breakdown (He even asked the bus driver to let him out) and the next thing people know, he was dead.

Though I've gotten used to wrestling deaths (Unfortunately), I have to admit that this one took me by surprise, mostly due to the bizarre circumstances surrounding his death.

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Can't believe I forgot to post this.

This would be ROH's first tv episode on HDnet. You know, for those that might not have seen ROH before.

By the way, it was uploaded by the guys from ROH. Hopefully you guys will at least give it a look.

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Good for ROH taking advantage of that opportunity. I hope they are able to expand their audience with this.

I have no idea whats in store for us on SD tonight but I don't care, I'm looking forward to it anyway. After the week I had I'm ready to indulge in the sillyness that has been going on. I'm sure we will see more of the Taker/HBK fued as well as Edge and all his woes.

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At 3/27/09 11:40 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I have no idea whats in store for us on SD tonight but I don't care, I'm looking forward to it anyway. After the week I had I'm ready to indulge in the sillyness that has been going on. I'm sure we will see more of the Taker/HBK fued as well as Edge and all his woes.

Smackdown was a bit predictable until the end of course. HBK did something i never expected and reminded me alot of the promo he did back in 1997, the last time the 2 feuded. Now is it me or is the creative team just focused on this one match to make wrestlemania and if it goes bad :::i doubt i will::: Werstlemania will not be very good. Not one single match has the same hype as the HBK/Taker.

Cena/Edge/Show has become a comety and i think most of you agree with me that this is not the way to go about putting on a manina main even. It would be fine if they did this at a lesser ppv, but i think Cena/Edge could put on a good show without Big show. Really what does he add to this match at all, he has not had much so much momentum that they had to put him in the mainevent. I can not remeber a thing he did this year that would make him get a spot in this match in this environment.

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**********************SPOILER ALERT**********************

Gail Kim returns to smackdown, she takes out Maryse and Michelle McCool, so she's returned as a babyface


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