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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-14 09:52:08 Reply

At 6/14/09 08:15 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Wasn't Superstars supposed to be about guys from different shows wrestling each other?

Don't know where you got that idea, but no. That isn't the case and never was.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-14 21:59:42 Reply

At 6/14/09 12:34 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Taz broke his freakin neck in the ring and then drove himself to the hospital which the dr's didn't believe because they said it was medically impossible. Don't doubt what a determined wrestler can accomplish.

Only Taz could've pulled that off. :P

The same kind of sites that would say Big Daddy V died in a car crash (there were sites reporting that a few years back).

Seriously, where is he now? ECW had a good thing with him for a while.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-14 22:03:53 Reply

At 6/14/09 09:59 PM, Assi9 wrote: Seriously, where is he (BDV) now? ECW had a good thing with him for a while.

here's your answer right here lol


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 00:23:49 Reply

At 6/14/09 08:15 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: I'm not complaining because they put on some good matches but I'm still curious about it.

I remember them saying you'd see all three shows on it, but I don't remember them promising inter-brand matches. It had been said post-draft this year they were looking to re-establish the boundaries again and I don't blame them for that. Inter-brand matches should be a special thing to sell a major show like Mania to people. If the audience can get it all the time, why would they want to turn around and pay for it?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 08:45:51 Reply

I just hope they keep the silly stuff to a minimum tonight. If I'm going to spend three hours watching something I want to be entertained. It will be good to see all three main titles defended though. I haven't had a chance to see Dreamer with the belt yet.

I just got The Wrestler for my birthday yesterday. I'm actually looking forward to seeing the special features since it says it has a discussion with wrestlers and filmmakers. Plus I can now go back and try to spot all the stuff that was going on in the background.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 10:40:50 Reply

At 6/15/09 08:45 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I just hope they keep the silly stuff to a minimum tonight. If I'm going to spend three hours watching something I want to be entertained. It will be good to see all three main titles defended though. I haven't had a chance to see Dreamer with the belt yet.

I know what you mean... with tripple H back on television i hope his imput in the creative department increases because this comedy crap is just getting old. Well it could be good if they even attempt to be creative because DX is the only comedy act by wwe i find funny which is sad if you think about it .

Did anyone here about Ric flair might sign a contract will wwe, not as a wrestler :::god forbid::: but as the new general manager of raw... What do you guys think of this. It could be good, flair draws people and this could give a ratings boost if they use him the correct way and not get him involved in matchs.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 19:44:41 Reply

Chris Jericho defends the WWE Women's Championship

This is beyond sad, and hilarious at that? It is known that professional wrestlers live fact-paced lifestyles due to always being on the road. That's still no reason to forget packing your championship belt.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 20:33:34 Reply

So, who do we think Vince "sold" RAW to?

...JBL? Hah


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 21:14:30 Reply

At 6/15/09 08:33 PM, l0vemetal wrote: So, who do we think Vince "sold" RAW to?

...JBL? Hah

I'd say Ric Flair, but he's broke, so it can't be him. Right?

In my heart I'm hoping for Bischoff.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 21:18:12 Reply

I have a guessbut I'll wait for the announcment..

Trump?! WTF? I guessed Eric Bischoff....

Commercial free? Um...ok. Does Trump have nothing better to do? This is weird.

The WWE title match was decent. Big Show was kicking some ass. I thought he was going to win it for a little bit.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 21:22:39 Reply

Okey this better just be one of there stupid ideas and not the real thing here... I'm shocked none of this leaked out or anything. Well the commercial free part did, but that would never lead you to think this would happen...Man i have to say they are desperate right now...


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 21:23:37 Reply

O_O

That was a bit unexpected. I guess once he got his feet wet he didn't want to get out of the money pool......


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 00:23:03 Reply

After finishing watching tonight, I admit every match was good. I'm still a bit dumbfounded by Trump's appearance, though; I thought it'd be either Trips or, even though I'd never wish this on any of us, JBL. I thought Trump was done after WM23; anyone know anything else about this whole thing yet?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 08:28:55 Reply

At 6/16/09 12:23 AM, Assi9 wrote: After finishing watching tonight, I admit every match was good. I'm still a bit dumbfounded by Trump's appearance, though; I thought it'd be either Trips or, even though I'd never wish this on any of us, JBL. I thought Trump was done after WM23; anyone know anything else about this whole thing yet?

It screams short sighted attempt to grab media attention.
Trump will not be a long term option, probably ending in another trump vs vince showdown and vince "winning back" RAW.
Raw isn't worth watching, this doesn't help.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 15:20:54 Reply

The ppv type match on a commercial free Raw screams desperate to me. I can't imagine the Trump thing lasting too long. Eventually Trump will end up being too busy to be a part of the WWE so they will have to come up ith something else.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 15:37:06 Reply

At 6/16/09 08:28 AM, Shaun wrote: It screams short sighted attempt to grab media attention.
Trump will not be a long term option, probably ending in another trump vs vince showdown and vince "winning back" RAW.
Raw isn't worth watching, this doesn't help.

It actually is in the news that trump bought raw and it's getting some good media :::i guss you could say that::: But this and next week is just screaming desperation to draw a larger audience. We will se the results of this next week and see if this storyline will help out or will just be forgotten by the media.

My over view of raw last night was not that good. Well i can't remeber most of the show but the ecw championship match was short and well not that good. The ten man battle royal was very predictible. Thats about all i remember from the show... that alone says alot.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 19:38:15 Reply

I thought the Smackdown! bits of this show were the best really. The WWE title situation did nothing for me going in, and continues to do nothing for me now.

Trump buys RAW? Might be interesting, we'll see, it'll get them some pub, but it's still the same creative team so can we really expect anything different here.

The World Title match was good work wise, and they continue to develop Punk the right way here and continue to keep him a tweener they could go either way with. I look forward to what he'll do with Jeff Hardy. By far the World Title is the most interesting.

Dreamer winning was good I think, it freshens up the ECW title picture and gives us some unique options, but that was not a good match and probably telegraphs he won't keep it much longer, and really probably shouldn't.

IC Title match was great, everything else was predictable or "whatever" for me for the most part.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 23:14:06 Reply

I know that the sole point of this is to generate a buzz around the WWE and get them some publicity, but these are only ever temporary. This just takes wrestling away from the wrestling fans (lets face it, Vince is the biggest mark of the lot), and puts it in the hands of someone who doesn't give two shits about wrestling.

Trump's presence will get WWE some mainstream attention for a few weeks, but the fact that nothing about actual wrestling will have changed means that no new fans will be attracted. People will tune in to see what the deal with is, but they won't stick around, because chances are they don't like wrestling if they weren't going to watch Raw anyway.

I hope Vince will take the opportunity next week to really showcase all the finest points of his company, and hopefully convince some people that maybe wrestling isn't the worst thing in the world, because if it's as bad as Raw has been in recent memory, then, if anything, more people are going to be turned off permanently.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 23:37:56 Reply

At 6/16/09 11:14 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: I know that the sole point of this is to generate a buzz around the WWE and get them some publicity, but these are only ever temporary. This just takes wrestling away from the wrestling fans (lets face it, Vince is the biggest mark of the lot), and puts it in the hands of someone who doesn't give two shits about wrestling.

That's true, but it can be beneficial. Vince has built his success off exploiting pop culture to his own advantage.

Trump's presence will get WWE some mainstream attention for a few weeks, but the fact that nothing about actual wrestling will have changed means that no new fans will be attracted. People will tune in to see what the deal with is, but they won't stick around, because chances are they don't like wrestling if they weren't going to watch Raw anyway.

I think they won't stick around because the product is so boring and repetitive on RAW these days. When you have a good show on the air, it makes sense to do things like this angle with Trump, it sure worked with Tyson. But the problem here is if you do get lapsed fans to come back and check it out, and/or the general public to come look, what will they find? They'll find essentially the same product they left years ago. That's the problem, this sort of thing gets the attention they want and can use, but there has to be something beyond that initial hook to make people stay. They've done nothing to do that, RAW has no new main eventers elevated, no really hot programs going, there's just nothing there beyond the Trump situation and I just don't see them building anything new up while it's happening. So yeah, this is something that won't work out like they want, not because the hook is bad or there's anything inherently wrong with what they're attempting, it's because they've done nothing to address the real issue.

I hope Vince will take the opportunity next week to really showcase all the finest points of his company, and hopefully convince some people that maybe wrestling isn't the worst thing in the world, because if it's as bad as Raw has been in recent memory, then, if anything, more people are going to be turned off permanently.

Can't see it happening, because in Vince's mind this is the way he should be pushing and promoting shit. He has no clue how to fix it, and truth be told there is no quick overnight fix. For him to showcase the best parts of his company, he'd have to run Smackdown! in RAW's time slot :)


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-17 08:37:55 Reply

Credit: F4WOnline.com

WWE Hall Of Famer Gerald Brisco, best known to present-day WWE fans as one of Vince McMahon's on-air "stooges" (alongside Pat Patterson), suffered from what was at first believed to be a stroke this past weekend.

Updated reports show that Brisco, 62, suffered a blockage in an artery in his neck and is also suffering from heart issues. Brisco will undergo surgery tomorrow.

I wish him a speedy recovery.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-17 11:06:09 Reply

The ratings are in for this week's special "Three-for-All" RAW. According to data compiled by Neilson Media Research, the three-hour June 15th edition of WWE RAW drew a 3.7 cable rating.

If you remove the first "bonus" hour, RAW's typical timeslot (the final 2 hours) did a very strong 3.93 rating.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Hour 1: 3.30 rating (4,561,000 viewers)
Hour 2: 3.75 rating (5,720,000 viewers)
Hour 3: 4.10 rating (6,091,000 viewers)


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-17 12:39:08 Reply

At 6/17/09 12:32 PM, Twilight wrote: Does Avie work for WWE or something?

Not to the best of my knowledge. He's just got a PWI Elite account.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-17 16:24:52 Reply

At 6/17/09 12:32 PM, Twilight wrote: Does Avie work for WWE or something?

Its a well known fact that Avie is actually Joey Styles >_>

Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but WWE blew it big time with Miz on Monday. Miz comes out from under the ring during the Battle Royal, and there's a perfect opportunity to have him eliminate Cena, and score yet another "victory" over him. So what does WWE do? They allow Miz to be thrown out of the ring by Cena and HHH. If HHH was going to win the match anyways, why not let Miz throw out Cena?

Oh, right... Had that happened, we wouldn't have gotten the Super Cena v Super Trips face-off.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-17 16:37:20 Reply

At 6/17/09 04:24 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Oh, right... Had that happened, we wouldn't have gotten the Super Cena v Super Trips face-off.

They didn't even get the super face off. HHH pushed Cena out straight afterwards from behind. But I agree, your idea would have been FAR superior.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-17 21:00:19 Reply

At 6/17/09 04:37 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote:
At 6/17/09 04:24 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Oh, right... Had that happened, we wouldn't have gotten the Super Cena v Super Trips face-off.
They didn't even get the super face off. HHH pushed Cena out straight afterwards from behind. But I agree, your idea would have been FAR superior.

Agreed times three. I had teh same thought when I saw it unfold on Monday. It would have really helped out the storyline between Cena and Miz while Big Show still goes after Cena. It was the perfect timing for it and to The Miz's credit he looked totalyl capable of pulling it off right up until he ran at them full speed.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-18 04:08:42 Reply

Haven't watched ECW yet but apparently there's gonna be a Championship Scramble for the title.

Since Raw's gonna be showing Trips/Orton in a Last Man Standing match six days before the PPV, it would surely make sense for them to announce a Scramble match for the WWE Championship as well. Have Trips/Orton end in some sort of dodgy finish (interference by Show, followed by Cena, followed by Miz) and let the five of them have it out at The Bash.

And finally since I really like the scramble matches I'd throw one in for Smackdown too. Probably including Edge, Jericho and Mysterio, as well as Hardy and Punk. Not sure how you could book that one though since Hardy/Punk has already been announced. Maybe Teddy could come out and say since Raw and ECW are doing it, Smackdown is going to follow suit and show them how it's done.

All speculation of course, but I'd love to see the return of the scrambles.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-19 00:01:45 Reply

At 6/17/09 04:24 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Its a well known fact that Avie is actually Joey Styles >_>

SHHHHHH! Vince will fire my ass from .com if you say that out loud! Oh fuck...

Oh, right... Had that happened, we wouldn't have gotten the Super Cena v Super Trips face-off.

Which again shows you the biggest problem with RAW right now: they do not have anybody fresh anywhere near the top and they're doing nothing to make it happen, where conversely SD! has been building the pushed properties they got out of the draft. I don't want to hear the excuse "well, MITB gave us an excuse to put the belt on Punk and elevate him whenever we were ready" screw that, RAW doesn't need to have guys like Miz or MVP in the main events right now, or even a month from now, but they should be doing better at laying the groundwork for them to move beyond their current station at some point. But why do that when you can push the exact same people you've pushed for the last five years or so to such monstrous success. AmIrightguys?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-19 14:23:12 Reply

In the past we used to blame HHH for keeping guys down but I think in thise case it has got to be Vince on this one. He doesn't seem to be able to see far enough ahead for days when his top stars aren't drawing becuase fans have seen them face off against the same people over and over again. Bringing up new talent is the only way to keep the product fresh but he seems to only want to work with what kinda works now instead of trying new things and building characters.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-19 18:36:01 Reply

A couple of releases today.

From WWE.com: World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of Raw Superstar Sim Snuka as of today, June 19, 2009. WWE wishes Sim the best in all future endeavors.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/10579908

From WWE.com: World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of SmackDown Superstar Candice Michelle as of today, June 19, 2009. WWE wishes Candice the best in all future endeavors.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/10579966

I'm surprised that Candice managed to hang around for so long.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-19 19:03:28 Reply

At 6/19/09 06:36 PM, pepeatumi wrote: I'm surprised that Candice managed to hang around for so long.

Myself too, they'd really done everything they could with her awhile ago, and I'm surprised she even got to return from the last injury.


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