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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-13 11:59:22 Reply

Whats up my fellow wrestling fans... I came to bring you what i have heard as of late. Basista may not be injured but wwe is covering up for a drug violation?

According to their report concerning Batista's injury, he suffered a completely torn left biceps requiring surgery that will keep him out of action for at least four months - not a torn tendon.

A full fledged muscle tear is much more serious than a tendon tear, so something's clearly not adding up. If he did indeed suffer a torn tendon like his official website is saying, the amount of ring time he would miss would be considerably less.

Among some of the wrestlers, there has been plenty of skepticism over the true severity of his injury. The injury supposedly occurred over three weeks ago, but he had been working television, pay-per-views, and live events without any sort of tape on his arm whatsoever, let alone showing any signs of an injury. If the biceps tear was serious, and people within WWE are claiming it was serious enough for him to get surgery two days after his championship victory, it would certainly have been taped up. If the injury was not serious enough to require tape, one would think there would be no need for surgery.

Even partially torn biceps injuries are taped up, but considering WWE is saying he suffered a full fledged muscle tear, it makes the severity of his injury all the more suspicious.

At Monday's Raw in Lafayette%u200E, the wrestlers were told his injury was legitimate and he was having surgery the next day. However, the talk among wrestlers in the locker room is that his injury angle on Raw was a cover-up to have him avoid being suspended due to a violation of the company's drug testing policy.

Did anyone hear if Rey is actually leaving the company? Becuse it does not sound like him. I just hope not..they realy need some top guys right now. Raw really only has randy and HHH right now as maineventers.... Cena is in some random fueds with the bigshow and is being lowere out of the maineven as of late.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-13 14:30:00 Reply

For WWE's sake it better not be a drug related incident with Batista. If one of their top guys is gettng wellness violations it really hurts the company.

SD was indeed really good last night. I liked what they did with Punk and the situation between him Hardy and Edge. It came off great on TV and the angle is believeable. Punk's match with Jericho was really good too.

I also enjoyed the tag match between R-Truth/Morrison vs. TWGTT. Lots of good spots and action. Good stuff.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-13 14:43:24 Reply

I seriously doubt Batista is away because of drug problems, or at the very least I don't believe the WWE would cover it up entirely if he was. They've made alot of progress with their wellness program, and to cover something up at this point would ruin any integrity they'd managed to build from the program.

I'd say the confusion comes from the blurred lines between Batista's injury and how they portrayed the injury. The reality is, Batista suffered a torn tendon, which isn't as bad as a torn bicep, but from the injury angle on Raw they sold it as a torn bicep. This was to sell the severity of the beating from legacy.

You have to remember WWE has a TV show to produce, so when someone goes down to injury, they have to try and make the most they can out of the situation, which was in this case getting heat on Orton.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-13 16:21:12 Reply

I would comment on Batista's violation allegations, but everyone else has already said pretty much what I was going to say already.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-13 20:04:39 Reply

At 6/13/09 02:30 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: For WWE's sake it better not be a drug related incident with Batista. If one of their top guys is gettng wellness violations it really hurts the company.

This is also not a good time to get a violation or even a injury of one of there top guys because they are running low as of late it just seems like there are so meny midcarders and jobbers theres not enough maineventers the people they think about pushing are getting fired :::ie Mr kennedy:::


SD was indeed really good last night. I liked what they did with Punk and the situation between him Hardy and Edge. It came off great on TV and the angle is believeable. Punk's match with Jericho was really good too.

I have to agree i did enjoy smackdown this week another good show. I though they were going to try to beef up raw, but it seems to be going the other way i find my self changeing the channels between matches. Oh i forgot to say this in my last post that soon they are't going to have commercials between matches or at all a stright run of 2 hours of wrestling. This could be very good or vince will fill the voids with stupid shit.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-14 00:34:22 Reply

At 6/13/09 11:59 AM, idiot-buster wrote: Whats up my fellow wrestling fans... I came to bring you what i have heard as of late. Basista may not be injured but wwe is covering up for a drug violation?

No, I don't buy it. Jeff Hardy is a big merchandise seller and was going to be made a headliner last year when he failed a wellness test before Mania. WWE got out in front of it and announced his violation, and suspended him. They totally changed their plans based around Jeff's incident and I think they would do the same with Batista. The only two people in that company I would buy the possibility that they'd cover for on a drug failure are Cena and H. Batista is a big name, but there's all those rumors he may retire soon, so I just don't buy it.

According to their report concerning Batista's injury, he suffered a completely torn left biceps requiring surgery that will keep him out of action for at least four months - not a torn tendon.

Yes, but if you check out PWInsider they have reported that they are saying complete tear because it makes Legacy's attack seem more brutal and devastating. I think it's a load because it's not like they're suddenly going to book that trio as a bunch of bad asses I'd say, so while normally I'd say "sure, exaggerate the injury for story purposes and try to make a negative a positive" I see no point here because they won't use it to their best advantage. But that's the real story there.

Among some of the wrestlers, there has been plenty of skepticism over the true severity of his injury. The injury supposedly occurred over three weeks ago, but he had been working television, pay-per-views, and live events without any sort of tape on his arm whatsoever, let alone showing any signs of an injury. If the biceps tear was serious, and people within WWE are claiming it was serious enough for him to get surgery two days after his championship victory, it would certainly have been taped up. If the injury was not serious enough to require tape, one would think there would be no need for surgery.

How many house shows did Batista work in between though? I don't have the numbers in front of me. Also, wrestlers pride themselves on being "tougher then normal" and gutting through injuries and having a toughness normal men don't have. CM Punk fractured his skull in the ring and finished his match. H worked for 5 or 10 minutes on a torn quad. Taz broke his freakin neck in the ring and then drove himself to the hospital which the dr's didn't believe because they said it was medically impossible. Don't doubt what a determined wrestler can accomplish.

At Monday's Raw in Lafayette%u200E, the wrestlers were told his injury was legitimate and he was having surgery the next day. However, the talk among wrestlers in the locker room is that his injury angle on Raw was a cover-up to have him avoid being suspended due to a violation of the company's drug testing policy.

I have not heard this, not even a LITTLE. This smacks to me of one of these crap bag rumor sites that like to make up newz just to sound like they have an inside scoop. The same kind of sites that would say Big Daddy V died in a car crash (there were sites reporting that a few years back).

Did anyone hear if Rey is actually leaving the company? Becuse it does not sound like him. I just hope not..they realy need some top guys right now. Raw really only has randy and HHH right now as maineventers.... Cena is in some random fueds with the bigshow and is being lowere out of the maineven as of late.

As I said, I've only heard Rey is looking to rehab a nagging knee injury. The Observer is reporting the "leaving the company" story, but I haven't heard it from anywhere else. The Observer does have a good track record but it has fallen off in terms of accuracy over the last decade or so. So I'd file it under "possible" but not so much "likely" and certainly not "definite".


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-14 08:15:03 Reply

This has been bugging me for a while so I thought I'd post it. Wasn't Superstars supposed to be about guys from different shows wrestling each other? Therefore keeping each wrestler tied to there specific brand but allowing them to go at it against each other on Superstars. It seems however that they just have one match from each brand every week.

I'm not complaining because they put on some good matches but I'm still curious about it.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-14 08:23:01 Reply

Some sad news: from www.wrestlezone.com
PWInsider.com is reporting that Pro Wrestling NOAH founder Mitsuharu Misawa died this morning following a suplex he took during a match last night. It's being said that he collapsed following the suplex and did not get up, causing EMT's to hit the ring and attempt to revive him. It is believed at this time that Misawa had a heart attack in the ring. The show was halted and all NOAH talent was told to return to their tour buses.

My best wishes go to his friends and family.

I have also seen that the rumors about Rey are just that. He hasn't given notice. He just needed some time to rest his knee.

(Today is my birthday) :)


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-14 09:52:08 Reply

At 6/14/09 08:15 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: Wasn't Superstars supposed to be about guys from different shows wrestling each other?

Don't know where you got that idea, but no. That isn't the case and never was.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-14 21:59:42 Reply

At 6/14/09 12:34 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Taz broke his freakin neck in the ring and then drove himself to the hospital which the dr's didn't believe because they said it was medically impossible. Don't doubt what a determined wrestler can accomplish.

Only Taz could've pulled that off. :P

The same kind of sites that would say Big Daddy V died in a car crash (there were sites reporting that a few years back).

Seriously, where is he now? ECW had a good thing with him for a while.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-14 22:03:53 Reply

At 6/14/09 09:59 PM, Assi9 wrote: Seriously, where is he (BDV) now? ECW had a good thing with him for a while.

here's your answer right here lol


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 00:23:49 Reply

At 6/14/09 08:15 AM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: I'm not complaining because they put on some good matches but I'm still curious about it.

I remember them saying you'd see all three shows on it, but I don't remember them promising inter-brand matches. It had been said post-draft this year they were looking to re-establish the boundaries again and I don't blame them for that. Inter-brand matches should be a special thing to sell a major show like Mania to people. If the audience can get it all the time, why would they want to turn around and pay for it?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 08:45:51 Reply

I just hope they keep the silly stuff to a minimum tonight. If I'm going to spend three hours watching something I want to be entertained. It will be good to see all three main titles defended though. I haven't had a chance to see Dreamer with the belt yet.

I just got The Wrestler for my birthday yesterday. I'm actually looking forward to seeing the special features since it says it has a discussion with wrestlers and filmmakers. Plus I can now go back and try to spot all the stuff that was going on in the background.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 10:40:50 Reply

At 6/15/09 08:45 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I just hope they keep the silly stuff to a minimum tonight. If I'm going to spend three hours watching something I want to be entertained. It will be good to see all three main titles defended though. I haven't had a chance to see Dreamer with the belt yet.

I know what you mean... with tripple H back on television i hope his imput in the creative department increases because this comedy crap is just getting old. Well it could be good if they even attempt to be creative because DX is the only comedy act by wwe i find funny which is sad if you think about it .

Did anyone here about Ric flair might sign a contract will wwe, not as a wrestler :::god forbid::: but as the new general manager of raw... What do you guys think of this. It could be good, flair draws people and this could give a ratings boost if they use him the correct way and not get him involved in matchs.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 19:44:41 Reply

Chris Jericho defends the WWE Women's Championship

This is beyond sad, and hilarious at that? It is known that professional wrestlers live fact-paced lifestyles due to always being on the road. That's still no reason to forget packing your championship belt.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 20:33:34 Reply

So, who do we think Vince "sold" RAW to?

...JBL? Hah


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 21:14:30 Reply

At 6/15/09 08:33 PM, l0vemetal wrote: So, who do we think Vince "sold" RAW to?

...JBL? Hah

I'd say Ric Flair, but he's broke, so it can't be him. Right?

In my heart I'm hoping for Bischoff.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 21:18:12 Reply

I have a guessbut I'll wait for the announcment..

Trump?! WTF? I guessed Eric Bischoff....

Commercial free? Um...ok. Does Trump have nothing better to do? This is weird.

The WWE title match was decent. Big Show was kicking some ass. I thought he was going to win it for a little bit.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 21:22:39 Reply

Okey this better just be one of there stupid ideas and not the real thing here... I'm shocked none of this leaked out or anything. Well the commercial free part did, but that would never lead you to think this would happen...Man i have to say they are desperate right now...


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-15 21:23:37 Reply

O_O

That was a bit unexpected. I guess once he got his feet wet he didn't want to get out of the money pool......


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 00:23:03 Reply

After finishing watching tonight, I admit every match was good. I'm still a bit dumbfounded by Trump's appearance, though; I thought it'd be either Trips or, even though I'd never wish this on any of us, JBL. I thought Trump was done after WM23; anyone know anything else about this whole thing yet?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 08:28:55 Reply

At 6/16/09 12:23 AM, Assi9 wrote: After finishing watching tonight, I admit every match was good. I'm still a bit dumbfounded by Trump's appearance, though; I thought it'd be either Trips or, even though I'd never wish this on any of us, JBL. I thought Trump was done after WM23; anyone know anything else about this whole thing yet?

It screams short sighted attempt to grab media attention.
Trump will not be a long term option, probably ending in another trump vs vince showdown and vince "winning back" RAW.
Raw isn't worth watching, this doesn't help.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 15:20:54 Reply

The ppv type match on a commercial free Raw screams desperate to me. I can't imagine the Trump thing lasting too long. Eventually Trump will end up being too busy to be a part of the WWE so they will have to come up ith something else.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 15:37:06 Reply

At 6/16/09 08:28 AM, Shaun wrote: It screams short sighted attempt to grab media attention.
Trump will not be a long term option, probably ending in another trump vs vince showdown and vince "winning back" RAW.
Raw isn't worth watching, this doesn't help.

It actually is in the news that trump bought raw and it's getting some good media :::i guss you could say that::: But this and next week is just screaming desperation to draw a larger audience. We will se the results of this next week and see if this storyline will help out or will just be forgotten by the media.

My over view of raw last night was not that good. Well i can't remeber most of the show but the ecw championship match was short and well not that good. The ten man battle royal was very predictible. Thats about all i remember from the show... that alone says alot.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 19:38:15 Reply

I thought the Smackdown! bits of this show were the best really. The WWE title situation did nothing for me going in, and continues to do nothing for me now.

Trump buys RAW? Might be interesting, we'll see, it'll get them some pub, but it's still the same creative team so can we really expect anything different here.

The World Title match was good work wise, and they continue to develop Punk the right way here and continue to keep him a tweener they could go either way with. I look forward to what he'll do with Jeff Hardy. By far the World Title is the most interesting.

Dreamer winning was good I think, it freshens up the ECW title picture and gives us some unique options, but that was not a good match and probably telegraphs he won't keep it much longer, and really probably shouldn't.

IC Title match was great, everything else was predictable or "whatever" for me for the most part.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 23:14:06 Reply

I know that the sole point of this is to generate a buzz around the WWE and get them some publicity, but these are only ever temporary. This just takes wrestling away from the wrestling fans (lets face it, Vince is the biggest mark of the lot), and puts it in the hands of someone who doesn't give two shits about wrestling.

Trump's presence will get WWE some mainstream attention for a few weeks, but the fact that nothing about actual wrestling will have changed means that no new fans will be attracted. People will tune in to see what the deal with is, but they won't stick around, because chances are they don't like wrestling if they weren't going to watch Raw anyway.

I hope Vince will take the opportunity next week to really showcase all the finest points of his company, and hopefully convince some people that maybe wrestling isn't the worst thing in the world, because if it's as bad as Raw has been in recent memory, then, if anything, more people are going to be turned off permanently.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-16 23:37:56 Reply

At 6/16/09 11:14 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: I know that the sole point of this is to generate a buzz around the WWE and get them some publicity, but these are only ever temporary. This just takes wrestling away from the wrestling fans (lets face it, Vince is the biggest mark of the lot), and puts it in the hands of someone who doesn't give two shits about wrestling.

That's true, but it can be beneficial. Vince has built his success off exploiting pop culture to his own advantage.

Trump's presence will get WWE some mainstream attention for a few weeks, but the fact that nothing about actual wrestling will have changed means that no new fans will be attracted. People will tune in to see what the deal with is, but they won't stick around, because chances are they don't like wrestling if they weren't going to watch Raw anyway.

I think they won't stick around because the product is so boring and repetitive on RAW these days. When you have a good show on the air, it makes sense to do things like this angle with Trump, it sure worked with Tyson. But the problem here is if you do get lapsed fans to come back and check it out, and/or the general public to come look, what will they find? They'll find essentially the same product they left years ago. That's the problem, this sort of thing gets the attention they want and can use, but there has to be something beyond that initial hook to make people stay. They've done nothing to do that, RAW has no new main eventers elevated, no really hot programs going, there's just nothing there beyond the Trump situation and I just don't see them building anything new up while it's happening. So yeah, this is something that won't work out like they want, not because the hook is bad or there's anything inherently wrong with what they're attempting, it's because they've done nothing to address the real issue.

I hope Vince will take the opportunity next week to really showcase all the finest points of his company, and hopefully convince some people that maybe wrestling isn't the worst thing in the world, because if it's as bad as Raw has been in recent memory, then, if anything, more people are going to be turned off permanently.

Can't see it happening, because in Vince's mind this is the way he should be pushing and promoting shit. He has no clue how to fix it, and truth be told there is no quick overnight fix. For him to showcase the best parts of his company, he'd have to run Smackdown! in RAW's time slot :)


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-17 08:37:55 Reply

Credit: F4WOnline.com

WWE Hall Of Famer Gerald Brisco, best known to present-day WWE fans as one of Vince McMahon's on-air "stooges" (alongside Pat Patterson), suffered from what was at first believed to be a stroke this past weekend.

Updated reports show that Brisco, 62, suffered a blockage in an artery in his neck and is also suffering from heart issues. Brisco will undergo surgery tomorrow.

I wish him a speedy recovery.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-17 11:06:09 Reply

The ratings are in for this week's special "Three-for-All" RAW. According to data compiled by Neilson Media Research, the three-hour June 15th edition of WWE RAW drew a 3.7 cable rating.

If you remove the first "bonus" hour, RAW's typical timeslot (the final 2 hours) did a very strong 3.93 rating.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Hour 1: 3.30 rating (4,561,000 viewers)
Hour 2: 3.75 rating (5,720,000 viewers)
Hour 3: 4.10 rating (6,091,000 viewers)


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2009-06-17 12:39:08 Reply

At 6/17/09 12:32 PM, Twilight wrote: Does Avie work for WWE or something?

Not to the best of my knowledge. He's just got a PWI Elite account.


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