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WWECW Has promos for wrestlers they don't use unless they're in house, minus CM Punk (1 month, two matches tomorrow)

An hour show? You can't use everybody, I admit it's not a great situation, but it's no different then TNA having a set group of workers that always get used, and a mid-card that has to hope a program will be created for them to get some TV time. At least ECW is still trying to familiarize people with everyone on the roster even when they aren't used. TNA? Not really.

TNA has the fan favorite personalities on camera at the right time. And say, whaddya know, these guys actually wrestle on tv!

So does ECW.

WWECW believes the only way to push their mid-card talent is through squash matches.

Um...TNA does a lot of that also, so I don't see you're point here.

TNA pushes their talent by putting them in an incredible three way Falls Count Anywhere matches.

None of those guys are new, and the only guy in that match that was truly a TNA created talent is Monty Brown, who got jobbed.

WWECW has one, maybe two good matches a week.

That also happens to TNA as well at times...at least the one or two good matches on the ECW show create meaningful storyline, vs. TNA who a lot of times just throw out cool matches to have cool matches that do nothing for anyone involved.

TNA finds a way to not only get all the storylines and promos in, but also put on an average of 3 good matches, one of which is almost always an X-Division Match.

What fucking show are you watching? They have a woefully inadequate amount of time to get everything they need to accomplish done in their show, most of their PPV matches are thrown together slop jobs to fill time, same as WWE tends to do.

WWECW is EXTREME....er, after they check everything out with Sci-Fi, McMahon, the SD! audience. And then only in certain matches. BUT HEY! ITS EXTREME!

TNA has the same level of violence and "non-stop action!" I know how hard it is sometimes to get the old men and has beens to put on a really good match. ECW offers solid matches, no different in my mind from a lot of what the old show offered, people have just mytholigized it I think to make every show seem so much bigger and better then it was.

TNA isn't extreme. TNA is innovative. Not everything amazing has to be Extreme.

I've just proven how not innovative they are, their champion is a guy who's part owner of the company, and held the WCW title while the company sank into the abyss, and most of their "innovations" are crap matches (cept Ultimate X) and using workers that would have wound up in ECW, or can be seen in any other halfway decent indy promotion any night of the week.

WWECW has a watered down Paul Heyman.

Real ECW had NO Heyman, for the most part. Some people would argue that a lot of Paul E's insistence on shooting and always being controversial was a detriment to the company. Paul E. is playing a character, a character I find to be interesting at the moment. How watered down he is, is completely a matter of opinion

TNA has Jim Cornette for business, Zybsko and Slick for comic relief.

Another loud mouth on air authority figure...how original. Two non-wrestlers getting television time...yep, don't see that anywhere else do we.

WWECW uses the same talent.....over....and over.

So does TNA, so does, oh, EVERY PROMOTION IN THE HISTORY OF THE FUCKING BUSINESS!!!!! It's real simple: if a guy draws money, or is perceived to draw money, he will be on TV every week and used so he can...draw money! Clarify this point or abandon it man, because this one just makes you sound silly the way I'm reading it.

TNA utilizes their entire roster.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! What a crock of shit!!! Where the fuck is Lance Hoyt? Where's Bentley? Where's Tracey Brooks? TNA uses quite a bit of their roster, but not all of it, honestly? Nobody uses their entire roster on a show.

TNA's X-Division Championship has, in my opinion, lost some luster after Samoa Joe dropped it.

And there's no reason for that, Senshi is a great worker, and they have many talented guys, TNA was just too busy investing time in Samoa Joe and other former WWE acquistions to build any of them up.

WWECW's Heavyweight Championship has been defended against Flair, Kane, Undertaker, Batista, and, HEY! WAIT A MINUTE! *checks* It SAYS ECW world title....But....Oh well.

They're trying to sell this to a wider audience, bringing in big names to compete for the ECW title helps draw viewers, while establishing the belt as an equal in importance to other world titles.

WWECW has given RVD and Sabu their oppurtunity. It's a shame that Sandman and Dreamer did not.

I think Sandman and Dreamer are being utilized decently, not great, but decently, they're on TV every week, placating the old school fans, and keeping Knox and Test from falling on their faces. Would I like them higher on the card with better opponents? Absolutely, but I think WWE has smartly used them to establish two new heels, and shown faith in their abilities in entrusting them with that assignment.

TNA has lost a great unit in Team Canada.

Yep, it leaves A1 fucked in my mind. Petey will be ok. Eric Young is liked. Bobby Rhoode is getting big deal treatment.

WWECW has gained a decent unti in the Bashams.

Not to mention the FBI, Doring and Roadkill, Dreamer and Sandman in emergencies as well.

I'm kinda stretching to find more flaws in TNA right now, mostly because they pulled off their PPV Impressively well despite the fact that they were under pressure to make it up to the fans (The fire caused some matches to change and the exclusion of the 4-way Tag Match). So I'll stop there.

I'll give them credit for gutting through that, but I still feel the main event finish was lame, and the Sabin win was hurt by the fact that it wasn't Nash he got it over.

Heres the synopsis. TNA is not the old or new ECW, nor are they trying to be. To hate it because you think so is absurd. WWECW is not as good as TNA but that isn't to say TNA is without their flaws, nor is it to say WWECW isn't a good show. What it is to say that three letters, be they ECW or TNA or WWE should not prevent you from watching a good wrestling program.

I agree, I also don't think you're memories of how a company USED to be, should stop you from enjoying it for what it is now. I think the comparisons I've made about TNA are fair, and they are the biggest reasons why I PERSONALLY do not really care to watch TNA, as I PERSONALLY do not feel they are a great wrestling program because what I like about the product is far overshadowed by the fact that they are determined not to give me enough of it, and that I feel they have made it clear they want to disrespectfully rip into the competition to get over. Those are my opinions, if you agree, ok, if you don't, well, that's what makes the world great ain't it?

And on a bit of real news in this marathon, Kurt Angle pulled his groin at the White Plains house show yesterday, he will however gut through it for the show tommorow, and the remaining house show.

I've had my personal issues with things Kurt Angle has said and done, but he has my respect for giving us the fans, his absolute best. I hope Kurt has a safe match tonight and tommorow (though I'm doubting it for tommorow).

In the only spot of potential good news in this, it will shut up the assholes (and I know one of them and I'm bloody sick of hearing it) who think that a WWE guy will always be pushed over an ECW original when it comes to the top spot, as this match is now basically just Sabu vs. RVD in terms of who could potentially win it.

Raw wasn't that bad tonight. The match between Edge and Carlito was amazing. Plus Lita did a hurricanrana on Mickie, but she seemed to be moving slower then in her older matches. I won't be happy until she does a Moonsault.

At 8/14/06 11:15 PM, boloneyman wrote: Raw wasn't that bad tonight. The match between Edge and Carlito was amazing. Plus Lita did a hurricanrana on Mickie, but she seemed to be moving slower then in her older matches. I won't be happy until she does a Moonsault.

I agree with that. I haven't seen her do her moonsault in a while. One thing I noticed since she came back, she really never wrestles much anymore, she's in the whole edge/lita thing. I remember lita as the daredevil girl of the wwe. I remember her as one of the top female wrestlers in the company, its not like that anymore.

Well, I missed the first hour of RAW, so I don't know what happened. Can someone fill me in? Although, I DO KNOW that Lita won the Women's Championship. That, shocked the hell out of me.

As for Carlito vs. Edge, that was a good match. But, as usual, John Seen-It fucked the show up. Fuck John Cena, fuck him up his stupid ass. I hope he loses at SummerSlam so Carlito can have a title with Edge. (and hopefully win the title he deserves!)

As for SummerSlam's Hogan vs. Orton, I'm hoping Orton wins. Not that I care, because knowing WWE, they'll push someone who's over the hill, past his prime, and has a Godzilla sized ego to win the match. I'm not buying SS.

And for TNA, fuck them. They are trying to resurrect WCW and trying add an ECW like edge to it. But, the story lines are too predictable, the matches aren't all that good (minus the X-Division matches, I like them). And, most importantly, they rely on WWE and WCW has beens.

Well, until then, I'll be looking forward to ECW tomorrow. That Ladder Match sounds VERY promising...

At 8/15/06 12:07 AM, Outlaw88 wrote:
Edge and Carlito put on one hell of a match tonight. It would have been nicer if it didn't end in a DQ finish due to Cena but hey we got the match we wanted for the most part. I just hope that the Edge/Cena fued will come to a close soon so they can move on to something else. Edge has a fued with Carlito in the works so who should fued with Cena? Assuming the fued ends soon anyway.

No matter who wins the title at SS, I think Edge and Lita should feud with Carlito and Trish afterwards. Perhaps Carlito and trish will strip Edge and Lita of their belts in October, and this will cause Lita to leave the story. I doubt that will happen though.

Are you guys confusing Lita with Trish? Trish is definitely taking some time off like...right after Unforgiven if I remember correctly. She's getting married and mulling over her career options, so she should be written out of the storylines soon. I've heard nothing about Lita taking off.

So Jeff Hardy is going to RAW huh? Figures, I still say the big money in using Hardy lies within a brief reunion with Matt. Oh well.

At 8/15/06 01:29 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: So Jeff Hardy is going to RAW huh? Figures, I still say the big money in using Hardy lies within a brief reunion with Matt. Oh well.

I dont know if you's remember but when I joined this site in 04' looking for a wwe club my name was bestjeffhardyfan, well yea, that sholuld explain how excited I am he's coming back. Man, I can't wait.

Add a Caption # 3 coming sometime today....look for it!

At 8/15/06 02:30 AM, Jeffaro wrote: Well..this may be a off topic sort of..well...guys and gals whats your favorite wrestling theme song?Mines is kanes orriginal song

Mine, is probably Triple H's, every one of his theme songs, old and new were awesome.

At 8/15/06 02:36 AM, Jeffaro wrote:

Mine, is probably Triple H's, every one of his theme songs, old and new were awesome.

Damn..I forgot about his..umm...yeah..its triple h's themes or kanes or undertakers ministry song...yeah I shouldbve thought some more on my post..

Kane's is good too, I think Finger Eleven does his song.

Just popping in here for a moment. I dunno if you guys knew this or not, but Diamond Dallas Page did a book on manly yoga. I dunno about you but I just might buy it. D: It also has a foreward by Rob Zombie.

http://www.quirkbook..om/Book.aspx?BID=135

Full of smartass humor and a whole lot of attitude, Yoga for Regular Guys is an illustrated fitness program that men can relate to—because Dallas understands the things men care about: improved strength and endurance, a better sex life, reduced stress levels, and (maybe most importantly) access to ridiculously hot yoga-babes. Every chapter offers clear, step-by-step explanations of yoga poses and circuits—along with hilarious full-color photos of “regular guys” in action.

DIAMOND DALLAS PAGE practices yoga daily, and he can kick your ass. In addition to being a three-time World Champion Wrestler (and pioneer of the trademark “Diamond Cutter” move), he’s also appeared on The Tonight Show, Live with Regis and Kelly, Entertainment Tonight, and Access Hollywood. He lives in Los Angeles.

At 8/14/06 10:59 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: So does TNA, so does, oh, EVERY PROMOTION IN THE HISTORY OF THE FUCKING BUSINESS!!!!! It's real simple: if a guy draws money, or is perceived to draw money, he will be on TV every week and used so he can...draw money! Clarify this point or abandon it man, because this one just makes you sound silly the way I'm reading it.

What I meant to the point where you see the same 4 guys, and only those 4 guys. I'm tired of seeing Knox and Test in the same situation they were in last week. Aside from squash matches, the only guys wee see regularly are them, Dreamer, Sandman, Thorn, Show and Sabu. That should change with Angle, Punk, and RVD, but I still see the same narrow match possibilities for weeks to come.

TNA utilizes their entire roster.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! What a crock of shit!!! Where the fuck is Lance Hoyt? Where's Bentley? Where's Tracey Brooks? TNA uses quite a bit of their roster, but not all of it, honestly? Nobody uses their entire roster on a show.

Hoyts injured last time I checkd, Bentley is tagging with Kazarian and will be doing so in that 4-way when it takes place, and Traci Brooks can be found all over the TNA Knockouts DVD. While nobody uses the entire roster (and it was not meant to be taken literally) TNA uses well over 90% of their talent on a regular basis.

And there's no reason for that, Senshi is a great worker, and they have many talented guys, TNA was just too busy investing time in Samoa Joe and other former WWE acquistions to build any of them up.

Which is why it was a negative. Personally, I love the fact that Low Ki has the belt, but since its not Samoa Joe, it's not getting the focus it deserves. A pity.

They're trying to sell this to a wider audience, bringing in big names to compete for the ECW title helps draw viewers, while establishing the belt as an equal in importance to other world titles.

I realize that, but I also realize theres a better way to do that. Heres my idea. Big Show wins the title. ECW alumni get pissed. The likes of Big Stevie Cool, Justin Credible, and Sandman demand to face the champ but always refuses because the championship must be defend under extreme rules and does not want to risk the pain.

There. You've got a giant coward refusing to defend the belt and when he finally does, loses it to Sabu. The chase for the title will rub onto the belt itself. The importance can be established through the Sabu's run of defenses.

Yep, it leaves A1 fucked in my mind. Petey will be ok. Eric Young is liked. Bobby Rhoode is getting big deal treatment.

A1 is fucked, Petey is contending for the title, and Eric Young is over HUGE! No word on Bobby Rhoode though. He may be out for a while.

WWECW has gained a decent unti in the Bashams.

Not to mention the FBI, Doring and Roadkill, Dreamer and Sandman in emergencies as well.

FBI hasn't teamed since ONS2, Roadkill has been used in singles matches, and Dreamer and Sandman were kinda thrown together to compress storylines. There is no Tag Team division in ECW yet.

I'll give them credit for gutting through that, but I still feel the main event finish was lame, and the Sabin win was hurt by the fact that it wasn't Nash he got it over.

Sabin did get screwed, and whats worse, it looks like the injury was legit. I believe the entire Nash storyline is cut, and that just plain fucking sucks. God dammit Nash.

I agree, I also don't think you're memories of how a company USED to be, should stop you from enjoying it for what it is now. I think the comparisons I've made about TNA are fair, and they are the biggest reasons why I PERSONALLY do not really care to watch TNA, as I PERSONALLY do not feel they are a great wrestling program because what I like about the product is far overshadowed by the fact that they are determined not to give me enough of it, and that I feel they have made it clear they want to disrespectfully rip into the competition to get over. Those are my opinions, if you agree, ok, if you don't, well, that's what makes the world great ain't it?

You're refering to the promos that Rhino, Runt, and Team 3-D cut, aren't you? Remember, the competition is WWE, and WWE is evil.

EVIL!

At 8/14/06 10:57 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: ahahahaha! Giving us a break? Oh please. That sort of lameass booking is EXACTLY what WWE does. It's cheap, it's predictable, and it shows absolutely no progression. TNA books like WCW, and tries to "rebel" like ECW. They're a mess, and you're the biased one here Red because you're falling into the "anything is better then Vince" trap.

Oh man, you're all wrong. Christians turn was not predictable by casual fan standards, I just happen to be insightful. TNA's booking is very different from WCW, the only similarity is that Steiner and Sting are there.

And guess what? Anything IS better than Vince.

It isn't, the old ECW improved their ratings, sold out across the country, and forced their way into the public conciousness with cutting edge angles, new ideas, and a crop of misfits who'd never be pushed elsewhere. TNA has a millionaire backer who will continue to pour money in because it's his daughter's company, they keep all their new stars far away from the title picture, which is dominated by has-beens, or mid-card WWE never was's, who they can't draw interest in. You're right, TNA is nothing like ECW...but they sure look a lot like WCW to me.

They push who the fans want to see. The fans want to see Samoa Joe, Rhino, Sting, and Christian Cage. What a concept to give the fans what they want.

TNA has the compelling tag team of AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels. They just came off a huge match with LAX (Homicide and Hernandez) and are looking to defend again against either the newly "franchised" Naturals, or the falling out AMW. Wow, a real Tag division. How odd.

I admit TNA has a good tag division right now, and they're pushing it, which is also good. But Styles and Daniels are together because TNA has no clue what else to do with these guys since they're too busy loading the main events with guys they didn't build, and cooling off the X Division now that Samoa Joe is out of it. The Naturals were made to look stupid by Jarrett and Steiner, LAX is not in any way a big time team right now, but competent. But compared to the three WWE shows? Absolutely, they're better on that score right now. But ECW has as of my count, 5 potential teams to feud for their tag titles when they get those belts back up, and many of those teams have more proven drawing ability then TNA's right now. But obviously, I can't call a division that dosen't exist great, so I will concede that this is something TNA is doing much better right now.

The reason AJ and Daniels are together is well explained and well thought out. Theres new talent in the X-Divison and their feud with Samoa Joe brought them together enough to become a tag team. Perfect sense. The Naturals will gain back the heat they lost this Thursday night when they win the 4-way. And as of now, LAX is a big team. They'll be challenging AJ and Daniels to a Border Brawl 2 weeks from now, but I won't spoil the end for you. *hint*

As for WWECW's Tag Division.....No Tag Belts, no plans for any soon. Roadkill is on his own now, no way in hell they'll push the FBI, and Dreamer and Sandman are temporary.

At 8/14/06 10:58 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: An hour show? You can't use everybody, I admit it's not a great situation, but it's no different then TNA having a set group of workers that always get used, and a mid-card that has to hope a program will be created for them to get some TV time. At least ECW is still trying to familiarize people with everyone on the roster even when they aren't used. TNA? Not really.

The TNA audience is already well acquainted the the mid-card roster, and they do get their oppurtunities. The problem is that its dangerous to push other than your loyal talent because the danger is always there that they'll get injured working for another promotion or getting nabbed by WWE. They give time to people who deserve it though, so really I have no complaints. Well, may be a couple.

So does ECW.

The only time I saw Balls wrestle lately was when he was getting squashed by Cena. haven't seen Moore or Dupree yet, and CM Punk will be having his second match tomorrow.

Um...TNA does a lot of that also, so I don't see you're point here.

You clearly are not able to define "squash" if you can't tell the difference between WWECW and TNA

None of those guys are new, and the only guy in that match that was truly a TNA created talent is Monty Brown, who got jobbed.

Jobbed? Did you even SEE the match? All three guys were crazy, and losing to someone who is undefeated doesn't make you lose very much heat. They may not be new either, but its who the fans want to see!

That also happens to TNA as well at times...at least the one or two good matches on the ECW show create meaningful storyline, vs. TNA who a lot of times just throw out cool matches to have cool matches that do nothing for anyone involved.

...you don't watch the product, do you? Neither do you understand it. I'd rather see 4 good quality matches than 2 horrible matches with a storyline. I'd rather see a fun X-divison match or Tag Team Match than a Kevin Thorn squash or another hacked up angle between Knox/dreamer/Sandman/Test. As would...the fans, thats ight.

What fucking show are you watching? They have a woefully inadequate amount of time to get everything they need to accomplish done in their show, most of their PPV matches are thrown together slop jobs to fill time, same as WWE tends to do.

Now I need to ask you what show are you fucking watching? This is by far the most ignorant statement you made. I challenge WWECW to make a PPV card with 4 hours of TV build and do anything TNA has. Every match had a story behind it and every match was fun to watch. They may not have the time they need, but what they get out there is incredible.

TNA isn't extreme. TNA is innovative. Not everything amazing has to be Extreme.

I've just proven how not innovative they are, their champion is a guy who's part owner of the company, and held the WCW title while the company sank into the abyss, and most of their "innovations" are crap matches (cept Ultimate X) and using workers that would have wound up in ECW, or can be seen in any other halfway decent indy promotion any night of the week.

Look up the word innovative and read the definition. A heel entrance, a face entrance, and by golly all the heels hate all the faces and faces will make the save on a fellow face when attacked by many heels! Whats this? An all cage match PPV!? My god, and the majority is aerial tactics! Ultimate X, World X Cup, an actual TAG TEAM DIVISION, and the fact that the bigger guys are not dominating my screen and do not always win helps a little too. Are those guys talking about another promotion, they can't do that!

Something new, something different. Innovation.

TNA has Jim Cornette for business, Zybsko and Slick for comic relief.

Another loud mouth on air authority figure...how original. Two non-wrestlers getting television time...yep, don't see that anywhere else do we.

You probably don't even know Jim Cornette, not with a statement like that. And if you wanna talk about loud mouth authority figures,...PAUL HEYMAN.

Lita Is The New Women's Champion, there. Maybe if they Gave Carlito the WWE CHampion belt, you guys would stop complaining about things.

Damn, They Didn't waste a minute getting Ol' Jeff back on the tube! I'll bet They're gonna write him in as the Newest Member of DX!

Why Can't Professor Avie and Redangle_Prince learn to love each other? LOVE????

I'm kinda disappointed Jeff's going to RAW. A Hardy Boyz reunion would have surely helped SD! in a big way, but oh well.

I sense the end is near for the Faggot Squad. Out of the Power25 and finally out of Heat, only to lose to Eugene and Duggan with Highlanders interference. The cheerleader gimmick will disappear at, I predict, Unforgiven, where the Highlanders will get the titles, and the Squad will do an MNM and get the crap ones (Mitch, Mikey, Nicky) fired while Kenny and Johnny, the only ones that seem to be in singles action at all, stay on as a tag team.

And when the hell is RAW actually going to get a damn GM? I'm really sick of Shane and Mr. McMahon running things. Vince better get a GM for RAW after summerSlam instead of continuing the feud with DX. Sure it's entertaining, but it goes back to Boxing Day last year when HBK told Vince to move on. DX only really reformed as far as storylines go, to get the odds more in HBK's favour in my opinion. Now you all may have different views on this, but that's just mine.

ECW should be good tonight with the Ladder match. I hope Kurt's fit enough to compete with his groin injury.

As much as I like Cena, I had to laugh at how badly Edge owned his dad. Thing is, I can't see where Cena's going to go if he doesn't win at SummerSlam apart from feud with Edge some more. To me, Cena seems stuck in a title feud cycle, all very good for Cena, but not necessarily good for some of the fans.

I was bored of Mickie James with the title anyway. With Trish elsewhere, there's no psycho gimmick for Mickie anymore. It was time for a change. Kinda hoped to see a moonsault from Lita but to no avail.

btw whoever asked, my favourite entrance theme is probably Edge's, Metallingus by Alter Bridge. Simply awesome.

And who won the first two caption contests, DaRktehClock?

The Standings in the Add a Caption contest are

Outlaw 88-1
aviewaskewed-1

The third installment later.

At 8/15/06 11:55 AM, Outlaw88 wrote:

At 8/15/06 01:35 AM, DaRktehClock wrote: I dont know if you's remember but when I joined this site in 04' looking for a wwe club my name was bestjeffhardyfan, well yea, that sholuld explain how excited I am he's coming back. Man, I can't wait.

I remember that name, and sure enough it's on the list at # 90. So I'll just update the name on it. Welcome back!

Well I have always been here since then, my name was DaRk after that, you just didn't change it. I just haven't been active in a couple month.

I really like this WWECW/TNA debate going on here; I mustv'e spent 10-15 minutes reading all that. Anyway, I missed RAW last night, but I see Lita finally got herself a title. And I'm not surprised to hear the SS lost, not at the least. And Jeff Hardy in DX? I'd like to see a Hardy in there; it should spice up the repetitive one member gets arrested, while the other gets royally jobbed in a humiliating fashion scenario that's been happening recently.

At 8/12/06 09:48 PM, DaRktehClock wrote: Veterans of the club will remember when I would do this, but its time for......

Add A Caption!

Today's Pic:

" Damn, I know I should've eaten before I got here................this belt's starting to look mighty tasty."

At 8/13/06 09:33 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:

At 8/13/06 08:35 AM, redface wrote: Isle Of Samoa

Have some of the best heavier wrestlers. And just one Samoan family has brought the WWE quite a few wrestlers, like Rikishi, the Rock, Umaga.

WtF? They're all related!? (wonders if Umaga/Jamal is Rikishi's brother) And does ANYONE know what happened to Rikishi?

At 8/13/06 12:47 PM, DaRktehClock wrote: OK guys, heres today's......

Add A Caption!!! (#2):

".........................What am I supposed to say now? Let's see..............damn Alzheimer's................oh, right - WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Here it is guys.......

Add A Caption #3!

This one should be a toughie.

At 8/15/06 06:11 AM, redface wrote: Why Can't Professor Avie and Redangle_Prince learn to love each other? LOVE????

Roffle, tis merely a debate. The Professor and I have a mutual respect for one another and our opinions. It's a good debate though.

Now I just want to point out that just because Jeff is coming to Raw does not neccisarily mean the Hardy Tag Team reunion is out. We'll have to wait and see.

As for the caption contest....

"BrotHER!"

"No no no, like this. BROTHER!"

"Brooooother"

"BROTHER, Brother"

"BROTHERR"

"BROTHER!"

At 8/15/06 01:34 PM, DaRkZiEz wrote: Here it is guys.......

Add A Caption #3!

This one should be a toughie.

Alright that's it! Hulkamania's gonna run wild on YOU brother!! I----- wow.... I am one handsome sonofabitch. Uh, I mean, Nick! Stay out of my closet!

Lita is a S L U T and she defiently doesn't deserve the WWE Women's Championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I nominate here for the world SLUT award of the century!!!LOL fuck Edge fuck Lita(i mean that hoe)and ummmmm I like Skittles!!!!

At 8/15/06 04:26 PM, TheUndertaker666 wrote: Lita is a S L U T and she defiently doesn't deserve the WWE Women's Championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I

So? At Least She Can Wrestle! Not That Mickie James Can't wrestle, She Can, In My Opinion :)

ummmmm I like Skittles!!!!

..........Don't Give This Child a Membership, Outlaw.

At 8/15/06 03:07 AM, The_Redangleprince wrote: What I meant to the point where you see the same 4 guys, and only those 4 guys. I'm tired of seeing Knox and Test in the same situation they were in last week. Aside from squash matches, the only guys wee see regularly are them, Dreamer, Sandman, Thorn, Show and Sabu. That should change with Angle, Punk, and RVD, but I still see the same narrow match possibilities for weeks to come.

Again, it goes back to what I said about trying to establish talent, and pushing guys that keep the ratings up and draw money. WWE is of course more likely to use people they want to build up, or promote as the main guys of the brand. It's a hard thing to get people working more when you only have an hour of TV per week to build them up. It's one of the biggest reasons why I feel ECW needs another hour to really show off what they're guys can do, or Vince needs to think about thinning the roster out maybe.

Hoyts injured last time I checkd, Bentley is tagging with Kazarian and will be doing so in that 4-way when it takes place, and Traci Brooks can be found all over the TNA Knockouts DVD. While nobody uses the entire roster (and it was not meant to be taken literally) TNA uses well over 90% of their talent on a regular basis.

Even when he wasn't they didn't, and Bentley and Kazarian seem like they'll probably become a jobber team (which is sad since they're talented). DVD is not the same as TV though. If you don't want me to take a comment like "a company uses their entire roster" literally...then just don't say it, because that is a statement that can't be taken in any way but literal.

Which is why it was a negative. Personally, I love the fact that Low Ki has the belt, but since its not Samoa Joe, it's not getting the focus it deserves. A pity.

Totally, the X Division is something TNA should be pushing, as it's an area that makes them different from the WWE, it baffles me that they seem to continue to insist on pushing the world title picture, which is full of guys that made their names elsewhere, as the main attraction of the shows. Especially when even their own fanbase at the building is telling them that they don't like the repetitive nature of the guys like Jeff Jarrett being handed the belt again and again.

I realize that, but I also realize theres a better way to do that. Heres my idea. Big Show wins the title. ECW alumni get pissed. The likes of Big Stevie Cool, Justin Credible, and Sandman demand to face the champ but always refuses because the championship must be defend under extreme rules and does not want to risk the pain.

I certainly agree with the part about the belt should always be defended under extreme rules. But I don't neccessarily think it's going to make the title match important if Big Show is constantly bombarded by a bunch of unknowns. That's my whole point, I know who these guys are, other old school ECW fans know who they are, but the rest of the fan base dosen't. I do see where an angle where the new WWE influenced guys vs. the old guard might be able to draw some money and get some people over, but I still think WWE was being smart by putting more established guys on the show and giving us solid title bouts to build up Big Show as a strong champion, and make sure the ratings stayed high so Sci-Fi would renew the show.

There. You've got a giant coward refusing to defend the belt and when he finally does, loses it to Sabu. The chase for the title will rub onto the belt itself. The importance can be established through the Sabu's run of defenses.

Problem with that scenario is that Show looks like a weak champ, and invariably slides back down the card like JBL did after his title reign. A coward heel champ works only so far, if he dosen't show some balls and actually defend, he looks unworthy, and once he loses the belt, he loses credibility as a main eventer. I'm not the biggest fan of Show having the belt, nor getting put into a position to have it again once he hopefully drops it at SS, but to book him in such a way that he'd drop down the card to somewhere around the level he was at when he came into ECW, is too much like throwing the baby out with the bath water to my mind.

A1 is fucked, Petey is contending for the title, and Eric Young is over HUGE! No word on Bobby Rhoode though. He may be out for a while.

But at least they're making it seem like he's a desirable piece of talent wth the promos. Now how that comes off when he actually returns will tell the tale.

FBI hasn't teamed since ONS2, Roadkill has been used in singles matches, and Dreamer and Sandman were kinda thrown together to compress storylines. There is no Tag Team division in ECW yet.

Actually, the FBI has worked every house show against the new duo of Ryan O'Reilly and Derek Neikirk. But that isn't exactly the same as TV I admit. Sandman and Dreamer are also not a real team, but that's why I labeled them an emergency duo that could be used as place holder champs or contenders. Knox and Test ARE a duo it would seem, but yeah, let's see how this storyline plays that out.

ECW dosen't have a division YET (you need belts to cement that), but when the decision is made to activate one, they have some teams already in place.

Sabin did get screwed, and whats worse, it looks like the injury was legit. I believe the entire Nash storyline is cut, and that just plain fucking sucks. God dammit Nash.

When you're body breaks down that often, God is sending you a message.

You're refering to the promos that Rhino, Runt, and Team 3-D cut, aren't you? Remember, the competition is WWE, and WWE is evil.

WWE dosen't acknowledge them (though I will fully admit ECW's return has more to do with TNA not going away, then it does with the impressive amount of love the fans have shown), I also think it's cheap heat, and sends a message that TNA can't figure out how to push these guys in any way other then to have them attack the competition, and that is one of the reasons I say TNA is stealing from ECW, because ECW was doing that way before anybody else, and their stuff was actually FUNNY! Not to mention, most of the guys saying it REJECTED WWE deals, the guys saying it NOW have all been fired or let go (not that I'm saying those were good decisions, I'm just saying there's a difference between opting not to go to a place, and being kicked out of it, when it comes to running the place down).

At 8/15/06 04:26 PM, TheUndertaker666 wrote: Lita is a S L U T and she defiently doesn't deserve the WWE Women's Championship

Mickie James was an okay wrestler, but seriously Lita is the best wrestler in the business, the only reason she doesn't seem that good is because those neck problems she has. Also Edge has been the best heel in 2006.

I think Lita and Mickie are both great wrestlers for the Women's Division. Their match was one of the better women's matches that I've seen.