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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-31 16:54:32 Reply

Submissions are okay, I feel cheated if they are used to end a long match, since it is so abrupt. I guess I prefer pinfalls.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-31 18:07:51 Reply

At 8/31/06 12:26 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Shannon Moore Promo: Let's just debut him already, these promos just absolutely suck. Grade: F

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-31 21:30:08 Reply

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-31 23:40:32 Reply

At 8/31/06 11:49 AM, Pineapple_Sock wrote: Paul Heyman is such a loser!!!!

Stop breathing the same air as me...Paul Heyman owns you ALLL!!!!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-31 23:46:39 Reply

At 8/31/06 09:37 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: It soudns as though they are probably making a mistake of having Moore in ECW. How did the crowd react to it? Could you hear them at all? He really should have been brought to SD to go into the CW division.

I'm not saying it was a mistake bringing Moore in, he's a good little worker who I really believe will be an asset. But the way they've presented him in these segments is piss poor, and they've had him showing zero personality. He's going to be like Sabu I think, insofar as his ring work is what's going to get him over, not his promos.

Which type of victory do you guys think has more meaning? A pin or a submission? DQ and count out can be judged separate since those aren't exactly "clean" wins.

DQ and count out are almost always maligned finishes, it's why the original ECW was so against using them. A submission always means more, as making an opponent tap out to a hold proves you are a legit bad ass, whereas pinfalls are something anybody can do, and can also be obtained through cheating, a submission is always a very clean finish because if a guy is trying to do something illegal with the hold, the ref will see it and have the hold broken. There's really no excuse with a tap out...except for Montreal, and that Vengeance finish...Sabu didn't tap there, he was merely patting the canvas as he was bored being in the obviously not painful STFU, and the biased WWE official decided to ring the bell. Montreal 2 I say!!!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-31 23:52:26 Reply

Does anyone remember that piss poor ECW rip off promotion XPW? Here's a column about it on Obsessed With Wrestling. It shows you how bad the promotion was.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-08-31 23:56:05 Reply

At 8/31/06 11:52 PM, LordKooler wrote: Does anyone remember that piss poor ECW rip off promotion XPW? Here's a column about it on Obsessed With Wrestling. It shows you how bad the promotion was.

Yeah, it looks pretty stupid. I think I will stick with ECW even though I don't even have the Sci Fi channel to watch it on.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 04:24:37 Reply

LordKooler's TNA iMPACT! review
1.LAX Segment
Konnan talks about LAX completing their takeover of TNA by winning the NWA World Tag Team Titles. Then A.J. Styles & Christopher Daniels appear on the screen and challenge LAX to an Ultimate X match for the Tag Team titles at No Surrender. This is the first Ultimate X match that involves the Tag Team Division. What's next? Will TNA do an Ultimate X match involving the Heavyweight Division?
2.Senshi & Petey Williams vs Chris Sabin & Jay Lethal
Why did they give Petey Williams generic music after Team Canada disbanded? If I were in TNA, I'd let Petey keep the "O Canada" music. Chris Sabin & Jay Lethal won when Sabin pinned Williams while Senshi was just standing there looking.
3.Eric Young vs Shark Boy
A comedy match. I liked the part where Eric Young was biting Shark Boy's ass. Eric Young won at the end.
4.Abyss vs Brother Runt in a 10'000 Thumbtacks Match
This type of match has been done so many times in various hardcore/deathmatch promotions. This match has thumbtacks near one of the entrance ramps and two bags of thumbtacks on two poles in the ring. After Abyss won, Raven attacked Abyss and put him through Thumbtacks and two tables!
5.Jeff Jarrett segment
Jeff Jarrett comes out with his firing squad who look like Muhammad Hassan's masked men from last year. Jarrett says that he's gonna kill Sting's career at Bound for Glory but then the phone rings and Don West picks it up. Jim Cornette is on the phone and puts Jeff Jarrett on trail next week. If Jarrett passes, He can take a break until Bound for Glory. If he fails, The fans can have a chance to get even with Jarrett.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 06:36:00 Reply

I saw part of TNA last night, but started to fall asleep during it so instead of fighting sleep I juse went to bed. I really think TNA shouldn't over-use the ultimate X match. Doing it to much will make it less meaningful. Kinda how I was sick of the idea of having an entire ppv with nothing but cage matches.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 12:14:48 Reply

Well Sabu and RVD pled guilty to the drug charges they had.

The Ironton Tribune today is reporting that Sabu and Rob Van Dam pled guilty yesterday in the Ironton (OH) Municipal Court. They will pay fines and court costs for their misdemeanor crimes stemming from their July 2 bust, which of course led to RVD being suspended for 30 days and losing the WWE and ECW Titles. They appeared in court yesterday morning around 9 a.m. and waited over an hour for their case to be heard. The paper wrote, "The wrestlers were greeted by several fans, but refused to talk to the media. When Brunk, Szatowski and his wife, Sonya, filed into the courtroom, the two wrestlers directed obscene hand gestures to the media."

Sabu pled guilty to third-degree possession of drugs (they were to remove fatty tissue in his chest). Another charge against him, possession of drug paraphernalia, was dropped as part of a plea bargain. He was sentenced to 10 days in jail but the sentence was suspended. He was fined $500 plus court costs.

Van Dam pled guilty to driving 73 mph in a 55 mph zone and third-degree possession of marijuana. The charge of possessing Vicodin was dropped because he produced a valid prescription for the pills he had. He will pay $140 in fines plus court costs.

Flipping off the media.... Nice!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 12:18:16 Reply

Sorry for the double post but as it turns out, Sabu didn't flip off the media... He just botched his usual point to the sky gesture.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 13:44:34 Reply

At 9/1/06 12:18 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Sorry for the double post but as it turns out, Sabu didn't flip off the media... He just botched his usual point to the sky gesture.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 16:07:18 Reply

At least everything is taken care of now with Sabu and Van Dam.

As far as XPW, they were a terrible product top to bottom, that basically just took the castoffs of ECW like TNA takes the cast offs of WWE. It was just something that scumbag porn mogul Rob Black decided was a good idea. I watched one video of it, and I've seen a couple matches included on the Hardcore Homecoming and Forever Hardcore DVD's because they couldn't use ECW footage. Not to mention them getting their wannabe asses kicked out in the parking lot of the Olympic Auditorium during ECW's first and only (so far) California PPV.

On the TV extension, thank you to everybody who made this happen. It may have been expected, but this just proves that ECW was a truly special product, with the greatest fans in the world. This is vindication for all of the old schoolers who always said we were easily the best product in wrestling, as we are not only back for the next year, and change, but also that WWE's Linda Mcmahon has credited ECW as one of the big reasons their first quarter numbers are so good (I know, I'm surprised they admitted to that myself). All of us together have made this happen, as well as the hard work of everyone involved (yes, that means EVERYONE). Hopefully Paul E. was telling the truth when he said they can now use this time to do more long term planning and building of the show. But in the end, that's all up to Vince Mcmahon.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 16:38:11 Reply

I didn't catch TNA last night, I conked out ;round nine =(

Man, Smackdown! vs. RAW 2007 is lookin' mighty sweet...They're even planning a 2008 version on the PS3!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 17:01:55 Reply

Time for a BIG SPOILER: guess who the NEW U.S champion is: Mister...........Kennedy.......KENNEDY. I personally like the guy a lot, he is superb at both wrestling and mic skills. Since he pinned Lashley in a triple threat match, I see a Lashley vs Kennedy feud going on at No Mercy which will draw. It was a pity that Finlay lost the title without getting pinned or submitted. But he and Regal can go to the tag division for the gold.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 17:03:25 Reply

At 9/1/06 05:01 PM, Dream_of_Duke wrote: Time for a BIG SPOILER: guess who the NEW U.S champion is: Mister...........Kennedy.......KENNEDY.

Man, you can't do it for shit.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 18:29:31 Reply

At 9/1/06 04:38 PM, redface wrote: Man, Smackdown! vs. RAW 2007 is lookin' mighty sweet...They're even planning a 2008 version on the PS3!

Good news, more superstars are now confirmed, including legends! They are:

Batista
Big Show
Bobby Lashley
Boogeyman
Booker T
Chavo Guererro
Chris Benoit
Chris Masters
John Cena
Johnny Nitro
Kane
Kurt Angle
Matt Hardy
Mr. Kennedy
Randy Orton
Rey Mysterio
Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels
Shelton Benjamin
Triple H
Undertaker

Divas:

Torrie Wilson
Mickie James

Legends:

Bret Hart
Dusty Rhodes
Eddie Guerrero
Mr. Perfect

Non Playable:
Vince McMahon

Also expected but not confirmed:
Mark Henry

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 18:44:27 Reply

At 9/1/06 06:29 PM, The_D-Lucks_Edition wrote: Good news, more superstars are now confirmed, including legends! They are:

Batista
Big Show
Bobby Lashley
Boogeyman
Booker T
Chavo Guererro
Chris Benoit
Chris Masters
John Cena
Johnny Nitro
Kane
Kurt Angle
Matt Hardy
Mr. Kennedy
Randy Orton
Rey Mysterio
Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels
Shelton Benjamin
Triple H
Undertaker

Divas:

Torrie Wilson
Mickie James

Legends:

Bret Hart
Dusty Rhodes
Eddie Guerrero
Mr. Perfect

Non Playable:
Vince McMahon

Also expected but not confirmed:
Mark Henry

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Ah, the Smackdown VS Raw series isn't that fun. It's too hard to controll the wrestlers. I think I'll with with Day of Reckoning 2, just because of that.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 19:02:56 Reply

At 9/1/06 06:44 PM, MegaGold wrote:
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There will be a code to play as Vince if you look hard enough I'm sure : )

Anyway, not many surprises here in terms of roster, I've also heard Chris Benoit should be back by about next month...on SD! from the way it sounds. I still say moving him to ECW would be great for him.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 19:20:22 Reply

At 9/1/06 04:07 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: As far as XPW, they were a terrible product top to bottom, that basically just took the castoffs of ECW like TNA takes the cast offs of WWE. It was just something that scumbag porn mogul Rob Black decided was a good idea. I watched one video of it, and I've seen a couple matches included on the Hardcore Homecoming and Forever Hardcore DVD's because they couldn't use ECW footage. Not to mention them getting their wannabe asses kicked out in the parking lot of the Olympic Auditorium during ECW's first and only (so far) California PPV.

I agree with you on this. XPW was the worst wrestling promotion of all time and Rob Black is the worst wrestling promoter of all time. In the part about the ECW wrestlers in Joe. L's XPW column, He says that John Kronus makes Tank Abbott look like Ricky Steamboat. Which XPW video did you watch? XPW treated other promotions like Ian Rotten's IWA Mid South and England's FWA like crap. At one time, Chris Hero, Colt Cabana, and CM Punk were supposed to wrestle at an XPW show. But XPW advertised them as graduates of their training school. All three no showed because of that. IWA MS and FWA eventually broke all ties with XPW. Remember that incident where Rob Black hired hitmen to cut off the Messiah's thumb in 2002 after he left XPW for CZW? That was one of the most disgusting things Rob Black has ever done. Hearing about that incident just makes me feel sorry for the Messiah. Thank god Messiah survived that attack.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 19:59:44 Reply

At 9/1/06 07:02 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Anyway, not many surprises here in terms of roster, I've also heard Chris Benoit should be back by about next month...on SD! from the way it sounds. I still say moving him to ECW would be great for him.

Don't get me wrong, Chris Benoit would be one of the best on ECW, but remember how badle hurt Kurt Angle got, I don't think Chris Benoit want's to be to risky, especially after he just healed up from what crap Mark Henry pulled on him.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 20:26:14 Reply

Submittion manuvers only end a match well when a really cool move is made just before it or when some kind of event occurs after or inbetween the submission.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 23:08:20 Reply

What's XPW now? Never heard of it - it was obviously an ECW rip, sounds like. So, this Joe Black guy really hired hitmen to cut off some gut's thumb? (I'm to guess The Messiah's a wrestler, obviously...)

And the 2007 game lineup confirmations sound kickass. I'd love to actually use The Boogeyman! :P


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 23:13:11 Reply

damn I thought Hardy's match tonight was for the title. Oh well, at least he got the win.

I hope that's just a part of the roster for the game, as some that I would definatly want in it seem to be not there. But who am I kidding, I'll probably buy the game anyway.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 23:14:49 Reply

At 9/1/06 11:13 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: damn I thought Hardy's match tonight was for the title. Oh well, at least he got the win.

I hope that's just a part of the roster for the game, as some that I would definatly want in it seem to be not there. But who am I kidding, I'll probably buy the game anyway.

Dam, I missed tonight's Smackdown, I guess I will have to watch the repeat later tonight. Wicked that Hardy wins, he should have a chance at the World Title, he deserves it unlike Jeff.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 23:26:23 Reply

ah I failed to specify who he pinned didn't I? He pinned Helms in a non title match. Sorry for the confusion.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 23:31:32 Reply

At 9/1/06 11:26 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: ah I failed to specify who he pinned didn't I? He pinned Helms in a non title match. Sorry for the confusion.

No, I knew he was going against Helms, but still I would like to see him pin Booker, he could make it happen, but Vince would never do that, well at least I think he wouldn't do that. :P


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-01 23:50:36 Reply

At 9/1/06 11:08 PM, Assi9 wrote: What's XPW now? Never heard of it - it was obviously an ECW rip, sounds like. So, this Joe Black guy really hired hitmen to cut off some gut's thumb? (I'm to guess The Messiah's a wrestler, obviously...)

Read about it here. That attack got lots of media coverage and made an appearance on an episode of America's Most Wanted (The TV show. Not the tag team.)


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-02 00:55:43 Reply

At 9/1/06 11:13 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: damn I thought Hardy's match tonight was for the title. Oh well, at least he got the win.

I hope that's just a part of the roster for the game, as some that I would definatly want in it seem to be not there. But who am I kidding, I'll probably buy the game anyway.

I am sure that Hardy is going to win the title soon. The fact is that Jeff will get at least an IC title push immediately which means that Matt will finally say goodbye to the jobber land for now thanks to his brother.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2006-09-02 01:01:32 Reply

There's one thing that kinda gets me...

All of these much smaller companies like CZW, XPW, IWA, ROH and more- if these are not televised programs, then how do they become more well-known?