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i know. i hate it. theres just something about us, everyone has fallen so far into our cozy little sheltered world. people ignore all of our bills of rights, they try to mix religion and politics, they try to change school curriculums based on what they think their child should be exposed to. they try to get books banned for bull shit reasons.

somebody actually tried to ban the book 'Farenheit 451'. if yo've read it or know about it, you can see how ironic, not to mention retarded, the situation is. america is becoming a big bucket of bullshit RIFF-RAFF.

At 12/29/06 10:20 PM, LolOutLoud wrote: Americans are a bunch of governmental ass-kissers.
Whatever Bush says is like the word of god. I tell you, Americans have NO idea what
s going on around the word, they just believe whatever CNN and Fox news tell them; both of which are known to be an opinionated form of news.

Not true, most americans by now no longer think Bush is doing a good job and mainly discredit anything he says. The same goes for Fow News. ANd I hate to tell you, but ALL news programs are opinionated. Everyone else has accepted this, so wake up and smell the bias.

I hate it when people say that Saddam should be hanged for the killing of about 100 people wheras their blood-stained president George Bush has killed about 3000 people in Iraq.
Sure, he didn't intend to kill them, but he knew that deaths where inevitable.

As opposed to Saddams killings which weren't? Look at the facts, people could have stoppedd Saddam a LONG time ago . . . Same goes for Bush . . . and I suppose Congress is as much to blame for AUTHORIZING the war . . .

Oh, and by the way, there are still murder trials being brought against Saddma for the murders of MANY more people, not just the original number he was convicted for. I think maybe they should have waited until those trials were over to hang him, but whatever . . .

His whole Iraq plan obviously failed and he was left alone with nothing but a slap on the wrist.

As opposed to being hung for making a mistake ?

Basically, good people died because of Bush "playing games." I don't care how hard it is to actually get things to work, butwhatever the outcome is, Bush should suffer the consequences.

Again, a noose around the neck? How about IMPEACHMENT?

I think Saddam deserved to be hanged as much as Bush does.

(see above)

Saddam was in charge of Iraq; he was allowed to organize assassinations if he felt it was for teh good of his country. Lord knows how many assassinations Bush did in his shitty time in office.

Assassinations? Try mass genocide . . . and for the good of HIS regime, not the country . . .

And frankly, if you are going to put up such a weak argument attempting to hold the American people responsible you shouldnt even try. I am quited offended that you accuse me of watching Fox. Keep your sweeping generalizations directed at YOUR corner of the globe, ok?

At 12/29/06 10:52 PM, LolOutLoud wrote:

At 12/29/06 10:35 PM, fahrenheit wrote:

At 12/29/06 10:20 PM, LolOutLoud wrote:
I hate it when people say that Saddam should be hanged for the killing of about 100 people

Try thousands.

He was charged for around 100 deaths, not a thouthand. He might have killed thousands, but only 100 were proven.

Pending trials . . . obviously he was going to be convicted on the rest of them, so why not execute him in advance? I mean, what kind of defense could he possibly put up? And also, there are many more killings / disappearances realated to Saddam that will never go to trial . . . so yes, THOUSANDS. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

At 12/30/06 01:53 AM, TheMason wrote: Actually the US President has historically been barred from ordering assassinations .. . . .

And I'm sure THAT stops them . . .

At 1/7/07 12:01 AM, thatguy2 wrote: If the ever reinstate the draft, hopefully I will be able to get to Canada (on a side note I would have less of a chance getting picked because females will be involved in the selection process now).

Canada changed their draft dodging laws after vietnam. They catch you, they send your ass back to America, and you go straight to jail. Either buck up and go to war, or accept the jail time. It is one of the downsides of living in modern civilization.

At 1/7/07 03:31 PM, Jose wrote: Canada changed their draft dodging laws after vietnam. They catch you, they send your ass back to America, and you go straight to jail. Either buck up and go to war, or accept the jail time. It is one of the downsides of living in modern civilization.

Yep, the discovery of conscription's a bitch.

At 1/7/07 03:31 PM, Jose wrote:

At 1/7/07 12:01 AM, thatguy2 wrote: If the ever reinstate the draft, hopefully I will be able to get to Canada (on a side note I would have less of a chance getting picked because females will be involved in the selection process now).

Canada changed their draft dodging laws after vietnam. They catch you, they send your ass back to America, and you go straight to jail. Either buck up and go to war, or accept the jail time. It is one of the downsides of living in modern civilization.

That's why dual citizenship kicks ass. You can maintain it at least until you are 21, and if you dodge the draft by going to Canada as a Canadian citizen, you won't get sent back.

At 1/7/07 02:48 PM, reviewer-general wrote: Oh, and by the way, there are still murder trials being brought against Saddma for the murders of MANY more people, not just the original number he was convicted for. I think maybe they should have waited until those trials were over to hang him, but whatever . . .

Actually no, all charges of genocide against Saddam have been dropped.

Saddam killed thousands, not "like 100". Most Americans hate Bush. Most media is left-wing, not right. I dunno how the gov. of Australia works (Grand Supreme Emperor???) but the President doesn't make all his decisions by himself. It's not all his fault, a dick (literally :P) and until recently, Rumsfeld, were making most of the bad decisions.

Oh, and by the way, you can say all that about our country, but at least we aren't the descendents of filthy British criminals that were banished to as far away from the homeland as physically possible because the English couldn't stand the sight of them....have a nice day :)

At 12/30/06 10:15 AM, Tomsan wrote: how come everyone is saying the majority of america "hates" Bush, but he got re-elected?

Electoral College . . . figure it out, I'm too lazy . . . lol

At 1/23/07 08:11 AM, bcdemon wrote: Actually no, all charges of genocide against Saddam have been dropped.

Well it would be kinda pointless now that hes DEAD!

At 1/23/07 06:06 PM, reviewer-general wrote:

Electoral College . . . figure it out, I'm too lazy . . . lol

And his re-election?

What about the military votes from overseas that Gore blocked? Uh oh...

At 12/29/06 10:41 PM, LolOutLoud wrote:

At 12/29/06 10:30 PM, AustinR wrote: Actually the news is Very left sided (if you know what that means) and most Americans Hate Bush

Many think he is a hero.

Anyway, here's are more funny clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0f97DH8TzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZAHRpsR7dU

Those clips are fake. CNNNN doesn't exsist.

At 12/29/06 10:20 PM, LolOutLoud wrote: Americans are a bunch of governmental ass-kissers.
Whatever Bush says is like the word of god. I tell you, Americans have NO idea what
s going on around the word, they just believe whatever CNN and Fox news tell them; both of which are known to be an opinionated form of news.

Definite fail. Not all Americans are ass kissers thats just an ugly stereotype 45% of America think George Bush is doing a bad job and should be impeached.

I hate it when people say that Saddam should be hanged for the killing of about 100 people wheras their blood-stained president George Bush has killed about 3000 people in Iraq.
Sure, he didn't intend to kill them, but he knew that deaths where inevitable.

He killed over 5000 people in seperate countrys not just the 100 in America... get it right once again.

His whole Iraq plan obviously failed and he was left alone with nothing but a slap on the wrist.
Basically, good people died because of Bush "playing games." I don't care how hard it is to actually get things to work, butwhatever the outcome is, Bush should suffer the consequences.

Actually bush was going to be impeached, but he was able to convince them that he had an idea of what was going to happen thats why he declared war on iraq. And not all soldiers are good people :P

I think Saddam deserved to be hanged as much as Bush does.
Saddam was in charge of Iraq; he was allowed to organize assassinations if he felt it was for teh good of his country. Lord knows how many assassinations Bush did in his shitty time in office.

He never assasinated anyone get a life and stop bashing things you don't understand.

At 1/23/07 05:14 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: Saddam killed thousands, not "like 100".

As the post above this stated, the genocide trial against Saddam was dropped, so he went to the gallows for the deaths of 148 people, in a legal sense. Of course, why they didn't wait until he'd faced every single charge that was against him is a diferent matter for debate and/or conspiracy theorists.

At 1/24/07 10:04 AM, D2KVirus wrote: As the post above this stated, the genocide trial against Saddam was dropped, so he went to the gallows for the deaths of 148 people, in a legal sense. Of course, why they didn't wait until he'd faced every single charge that was against him is a diferent matter for debate and/or conspiracy theorists.

Anyone who thinks that is bad or odd, you're wrong. I seem to remember that Ted Bundy was only convited with several murders even though he confessed to tens of them. If you've given the highest punishment why do you need to further try him?

At 1/23/07 06:11 PM, Experimental wrote:

At 1/23/07 06:06 PM, reviewer-general wrote:

Electoral College . . . figure it out, I'm too lazy . . . lol

And his re-election?

What?

What about the military votes from overseas that Gore blocked? Uh oh...

Proof?

At 12/29/06 10:35 PM, fahrenheit wrote:

At 12/29/06 10:20 PM, LolOutLoud wrote: Americans are a bunch of governmental ass-kissers.
Whatever Bush says is like the word of god.

Your a moron, the majority of Americans hate Bush, most of them without knowing why.

This is true. Bush's approval rating is very low among citizens, and if they thought his word was of God, I don't think Democrats would be controlling congress right now. You should really do more research or live in a country before you bad mouth it.

At 1/24/07 05:21 PM, reviewer-general wrote:

What?

He won popular vote on his re-election, you dolt.

Proof?

He tried for a "loophole".

here

And here's another.

At 1/24/07 05:10 PM, Camarohusky wrote:
Anyone who thinks that is bad or odd, you're wrong. I seem to remember that Ted Bundy was only convited with several murders even though he confessed to tens of them. If you've given the highest punishment why do you need to further try him?

Bundy was charged with murders within the State of Florida (which happened to have the electric chair, which helped), so was more than enough to finally get him - he'd been charged in other states he'd committed rapes and murders beforehand, and escaped. Now, John Wayne Gacy killed 33 in the state of Illiinois, and was charged for 33 of them.

So, Saddam was responsible for the deaths of between 200,000 and 500,000 - depending on the estimates - in Iraq, and was tried, sentenced and executed for 148 of them. Falling a bit short, no?

Of course, why nobody bothered to catch, try, convict and execute Idi Amin for killing 300,000 of his own people, or Pol Pot for 250,000-1,500,000 (Pot himself gave a figure of 800,000) people is up for debate...

At 1/25/07 05:24 PM, D2KVirus wrote:

At 1/24/07 05:10 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

Of course, why nobody bothered to catch, try, convict and execute Idi Amin for killing 300,000 of his own people, or Pol Pot for 250,000-1,500,000 (Pot himself gave a figure of 800,000) people is up for debate...

Because we don't care.

At 1/25/07 05:24 PM, D2KVirus wrote:

Of course, why nobody bothered to catch, try, convict and execute Idi Amin for killing 300,000 of his own people, or Pol Pot for 250,000-1,500,000 (Pot himself gave a figure of 800,000) people is up for debate...

Could you tell me the point, other than keeping him alive for years longer?

And ah yes, the typical "what about these people" statement. Of course, depending on who you ask, Saddam could be responsible for up to a million (or millions of deaths, torture ect..), so really, he was worse so there's no need for complain. tsk tsk.

As said earlier there are two sides of political idiocy. There are the people who mindlessly follow the president, because they have niether the means, nor the intellegence to find opinions from both sides of the story, or all of the facts. These people are the ones you will see on youtube.
The few. The proud. The Morons.
Another type are the Micheal Moore types who preach nothing but propaganda, believe anything that, if true, would be great to rant about, and won't look at the facts. These people have no real education or experience in what they are talking about, and when somebody with a wisp of intellegence comes along, (thats about 60% if the US population) that person looks like a total asshole and a moron.
Also, there is no "American Mindset". You may be confusing that term with "The American Stereotype".
Just remember that there is nothing outstandingly profound in the American goverment. Of anything in your vague understanding of it sounds profound, then do more research until your ideas of our system sound even vaguely logical. Then catiously post.

Im going to be very broad here. America has no mindset. There are the pussy liberals, and the conservative retards. If the muslims had come to the south before the christians, they would all be on there knees saying 'praise allah!' In some stupid hick accent. Hehehe.

At 1/25/07 10:03 PM, Memorize wrote:
Could you tell me the point, other than keeping him alive for years longer?

Simple: if you're going to say you're going to depose one dictator to free their country from tyranny and all that, you go for all of them - you don't turn a blind eye to all the other ones.

And ah yes, the typical "what about these people" statement. Of course, depending on who you ask, Saddam could be responsible for up to a million (or millions of deaths, torture ect..), so really, he was worse so there's no need for complain. tsk tsk.

The exact number of people who died as a result of the Khmer Rouge's policies is debated as is the cause of death among those who died. Access to the country during Khmer Rouge rule and during Vietnamese rule was very limited. The Vietnamese-installed regime that succeeded the Khmer Rouge claimed that 3.3 million had died. Neither CIA reports nor Vietnamese claims are considered credible sources by modern historians. While modern research has located mass graves from the Khmer Rouge era all over Cambodia, the causes of death of the people in the graves is open to dispute and interpretation. Contemporary estimates of executions range from 250,000 to 1,500,000. [1]

The United States Department of State and the State Department funded Yale Cambodian Genocide Project give estimates of the total death toll as 1.2 million and 1.7 million respectively. Amnesty International gives estimates of the total death toll as 1.4 million. R. J. Rummel, an analyst of historical political killings, gives a figure of 2 million. Former Khmer Rouge leader Pol Pot gave a figure of 800,000. Khieu Samphan said 1 million had died.

Tsk tsk, didn't I already type that Pol Pol was responsible for up to 1,500,000 deaths? Typical "change the subject rather than make the point" statement.

Thank you (main post dude) for imploding your own post to thinking that Saddam only killed 100 people.

You make Saddam look like some small scale Mafia. He would have had you shot by firing squad for disrespect... as well as the rest of all your remaining family members and their friends and so on.

I take all my news with caution and examine it for shit usually. Use the internet people, stop watching tv news with their opinionated chat sessions and make your own damn opinions.