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At 12/29/06 10:23 PM, Jose wrote: As an Aussie, I really don't think you are qualified to say anything about the American mindset.

I don't stereotype you into the outback, why don't you give me the same respect?

>> The outback like on Mad Max? where he goes around killing punk barbarians, and bomb them with the Gyrocopter, or with the Aussie kid that throws the razor boomerang?

At 12/30/06 03:33 AM, hongkongexpress wrote:

At 12/29/06 10:23 PM, Jose wrote: As an Aussie, I really don't think you are qualified to say anything about the American mindset.

I don't stereotype you into the outback, why don't you give me the same respect?

>> The outback like on Mad Max? where he goes around killing punk barbarians, and bomb them with the Gyrocopter, or with the Aussie kid that throws the razor boomerang?

You know that Mad Max was written, produced, stared by, and directed by Australians right?

Jewish Australians.

Mel Gibson told me so.

At 12/30/06 03:47 AM, Leeloo-Minai wrote: Jewish Australians.

Mel Gibson told me so.

He says some funny things after he's had a few rounds.

how come everyone is saying the majority of america "hates" Bush, but he got re-elected?

At 12/29/06 10:35 PM, fahrenheit wrote:

I hate it when people say that Saddam should be hanged for the killing of about 100 people

Try thousands.

He was tried, and executed for the deaths of 148 people - not thousands. The fact the verdict was read out when the Lancet published that the death toll for Iraqi's was 650,000 points out the perverse hypocrisy at play here.

At 12/29/06 11:21 PM, fahrenheit wrote:

At 12/29/06 10:52 PM, LolOutLoud wrote: So You believe that the war in Iraq was a success?

Did we do what we needed to do?

Invaded Iraq (check) (quite succesfully actually)
Stop/kill Saddam (check)
Install government (failed)

Attack an innocent country under false premises (check)

Oh right, and to topic starter, you're an idiot. Many people hate Bush, don't fucking stereotype.

At 12/29/06 10:20 PM, LolOutLoud wrote: Americans are a bunch of governmental ass-kissers.
Whatever Bush says is like the word of god. I tell you, Americans have NO idea what
s going on around the word, they just believe whatever CNN and Fox news tell them; both of which are known to be an opinionated form of news.

I love how you generalize Americans by the stupid half of us. There's also the people who don't like Bush nor the Iraq War (and if you look at Bush's approval ratings, most Americans disapprove of how he has handled things in general).

At 12/30/06 10:15 AM, Tomsan wrote: how come everyone is saying the majority of america "hates" Bush, but he got re-elected?

Because he was less hated in 2004 and most people thought Kerry was an ass.

At 12/30/06 10:26 AM, D2KVirus wrote: He was tried, and executed for the deaths of 148 people - not thousands. The fact the verdict was read out when the Lancet published that the death toll for Iraqi's was 650,000 points out the perverse hypocrisy at play here.

The trial was a fucking joke, bro. Saddam killed a hell of a lot more than 148, the trial meant shit. He should have just taken a bullet the second they found him. There is no perverse hypocracy if you care to admit he did indeed kill a bitchload more than 148.

Anywho, that 650k (if indeed is ever found to be true) is largely due to infrastructure damage which also had to do with Saddam, since he did not pay for it. The sanctions and the war and insurgency sure as shit didnt help. Neither did the immenes looting following the war. Neither did the CPA's ineptenss in handling the reconstruction but the cold hard fact is the water filtration systems were run down before the war, Iraq needed over 6000 megawats of electricity production and could only produce 4000 megawats, education systems were very underfunded, medical services were rundown, the police were corrupt as shit, the Iraqi Ministry of Industry was corrupt as hell and a giant drain on resources, etc. It all leads back to Saddam. The invasion only tipped the iceberg over the ledge, stressing already overstressed services to the breaking point. You can blame all this on the United States led invasion but the fact is nearly all this blood ultimately leads back to decisions Saddam didnt make: funding essential services for his people. All while he propped up himself and his corrupt government his people starved and died. While he was paying for his Republican Guard, his people died and services worsened. It all leads back to Saddam.

At 12/30/06 01:53 AM, TheMason wrote: However, the blame of the Civil War in Iraq can be traced to Woodrow Wilson, Britian and France and their actions in the ME following WWI.

Our ineptness in handling the country after the invasion helped hugely. I suggest Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraqs Green Zone. Great book.

At 12/29/06 10:52 PM, LolOutLoud wrote: He was charged for around 100 deaths, not a thouthand. He might have killed thousands, but only 100 were proven.

I wish I could transmit the sound of myself slapping my face over the interwebs.

how do we know that bush is the president of the USA?
TV, newspapers, radio, ect
media
and you cant trust the media
so how do we know saddam killed loads of people?
how do we know anything?
just rember that.
dont be too hash on the people of the usa its not there fault

At least Hitler had the balls to end it before his empire fell.

Keep in mind that Saddam suffered more than just death, he was outright humiliated and disgraced. The man had feet of clay.. his death is nothing to get worked up over.

At 12/30/06 05:30 PM, jimbob5555 wrote: how do we know that bush is the president of the USA?
TV, newspapers, radio, ect
media
and you cant trust the media
so how do we know saddam killed loads of people?

I think the Iraqi boy I know named Taufi who has a vivid recollection of his older brothers being round up outside of his house and shot with AK-47s is proof enough.

Oh and the mass graves are a dead giveaway.

And its not just the US who believes this due to 'the media'. Its a well know academic fact IN THE ENTIRE WORLD that Saddam Hussein made orders that intentionally and admittedly killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis throughout his reign (possibly over a million). Hell, on trial Saddam even admitted that he did it specifically with the 148 shiites, but his defense was that he did it for defense of his country.

lolz I h8 teh yankees tw00

At least were not a bunch of beer-swilling criminals who go out and throw boomerangs at kangaroos.

I live in virginia and therefore can speak with authority on all australians.

At 12/30/06 05:32 PM, Der-Ubermensch wrote: At least Hitler had the balls to end it before his empire fell.

Keep in mind that Saddam suffered more than just death, he was outright humiliated and disgraced. The man had feet of clay.. his death is nothing to get worked up over.

For one thing saddam was better than Hitler Saddam had the balls to live through it instead of running away like hitler and I'm democrat and yes most democrats do follow blindly but true democrats believe in absolute freedom Conservatinism is like communism Liberalism is free market these balance each other out making a government for both sides so Democrats and Republicans arguing is the whole structure of the U.S. which is ironic

He didn't run, he shot himself in the head. Sounds more ballsy to me than hiding in some hole for months on end.

Your one of the people I hate the most. That are real fast when it comes to stereotyping. And what I hate most, is that your close to right.

Being Patriotic has turned into doing what the president says. And it pisses me off that I have to take orders from a dumbass!

It's just like what happened back in the 1600s with the English vs. The Native Americans. Bush says, if they arn't one of us, then they are infirior, and deserve to die. Sure, he doesn't broadcast that to the world, but It's what he's thinking.

I'm going to dance the night away the second he's out of office.

At 12/30/06 07:38 PM, Sgrab45 wrote: Your one of the people I hate the most. That are real fast when it comes to stereotyping. And what I hate most, is that your close to right.

Being Patriotic has turned into doing what the president says. And it pisses me off that I have to take orders from a dumbass!

Who graduated from Yale.

It's just like what happened back in the 1600s with the English vs. The Native Americans. Bush says, if they arn't one of us, then they are infirior, and deserve to die.

Um no, he made an address to the nations of the world that if they were against us, and weren't against terrorists, then we would treat them as enemies and consider them against us.

He made no racial reference to people being inferior or deserving to die.

You're a fucking moron.

Sure, he doesn't broadcast that to the world, but It's what he's thinking.

Yes and you are a psychic and you know what Bush is thinking.

Get a clue.

Dude, Saddam killed 100,000 not 100, fucktard.

At 12/30/06 07:19 PM, Banditopants wrote: I'm democrat and yes most democrats do follow blindly but true democrats believe in absolute freedom Conservatinism is like communism Liberalism is free market these balance each other out making a government for both sides so Democrats and Republicans arguing is the whole structure of the U.S. which is ironic

Actually, Republican is the party of free market economics while the Democratic party is more socialist in nature. Deregulation is a Republican policy (free market) while universal healthcare, social security and medicare/ade are Democratic policy initiatives (all socialist in nature).

Furthermore, Democrats would limit freedom of speech when it violates political correctness.

Republicans (the EXTREME Christian wing) would have the US a democratic theocracy.

So you see neither party is about absolute freedom and BOTH parties infringe on the founding principles of the Republic.

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I hate it when people say that Saddam should be hanged for the killing of about 100 people wheras their blood-stained president George Bush has killed about 3000 people in Iraq.

Um... first of all Sadam killed about 600,000 and Bush led he attack the ended the lives of about 600,000 people too. And also your right the americans don't know a lot of the world

There is a very big difference between ordering hundreds of thousands of people to be killed and leading an attack that results in your enemies killing hundreds of thousands.

At 12/30/06 07:42 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

Um no, he made an address to the nations of the world that if they were against us, and weren't against terrorists, then we would treat them as enemies and consider them against us.

He made no racial reference to people being inferior or deserving to die.

I didn't mean literally said it dumbass! And I don't give fuck if he went to yale or not. That doesn't make a difference, he's still a dumbass. Bush is a power hungry piece of shit, but you can protect him as much as you want. I don't really care.

At 12/29/06 10:20 PM, LolOutLoud wrote:
I hate it when people say that Saddam should be hanged for the killing of about 100 people wheras their blood-stained president George Bush has killed about 3000 people in Iraq.
Sure, he didn't intend to kill them, but he knew that deaths where inevitable.

you know that it is the insurgents , and the different religious tribes who are doing the killing in Iraq, They target Innocent unarmed civilians every day in order to cause fear, and because they are cowards , and would rather kill unarmed children that a armed soldier.

How about not making a topic on something you know nothing about, You are not a American , so you do not have any right to presume to know how we feel, And if you have not been to the middle east you are not qualified to speak on that either.

Next time stay with something you have the right to talk about like the poisonous Frog that is taking over your country and killing everything in it's path.

I think Saddam deserved to be hanged as much as Bush does.

Your words are VERY wise. I'm glad to finally see a person with abstract views rather than the close minded dolts we all seem to be, eh?

At 12/31/06 12:41 AM, Boofu-nfsu wrote: Your words are VERY wise. I'm glad to finally see a person with abstract views rather than the close minded dolts we all seem to be, eh?

Close minded dolts = anyone who disagrees with me.

At 12/30/06 10:15 AM, Tomsan wrote: how come everyone is saying the majority of america "hates" Bush, but he got re-elected?

Probably because they were to scared to think how much more Kerry would worsen it.

You're kiding, right? Last year, Bush's aprovel rate hit 31%. That was last year. I don't even know if he has an approvel rate right now. Belive it or not, there are these things called books, and newspapers that Americans read. Not all Americans get their information from the TV. You're sterotyping with no idea what your talking about. Come back with some evidence.

At 12/31/06 04:06 PM, chocolate-penguin wrote: Can you tell me the last time you saw someone on here as stupid as that?

Those questions are very easy, some seem like jokes.

"How many kidneys does a person have?" One

Actually, the answer is TWO.

"How many World Wars?" 2 are "official", but some argue there are 3 because of the Cold War and the Middle East congflicts

Actually the argument is WWIII is over; that we're now involved in WWIV between the Developed/Undeveloped world...

Berlin War happened in Berlin -_-

Berlin War or Berlin Wall?