Political Correctness

[Mistertbones]

I really hate the idea of political correctness. What idiot, excuse me "mentally challenged" person thought of that idea. Those politicaly correct jackasses can't let us say idiot, stupid, midget, jackass, and other words. Too many people use this speech. I am politically incorrect, and I am proud of it!

[Peter-II]

What insightful commentary.

[Neoptolemus]

Well, just look at what's written in my sig and then you'll be able to devise my position on it.

"If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."

And thus poltical correctness is basically trying to limit a persons freedom.. It's alot like NewSpeak and Doublethink rolled into one.. (DoubleSpeak?)

[TonioMiguel]

At 12/28/06 02:04 PM, Mistertbones wrote: I really hate the idea of political correctness. What idiot, excuse me "mentally challenged" person thought of that idea. Those politicaly correct jackasses can't let us say idiot, stupid, midget, jackass, and other words. Too many people use this speech. I am politically incorrect, and I am proud of it!

Not all the reason politically correct started were bad. Yet, one reason was to ensure that religion would stay out of politics. It comes from the belief that God and politics do not mix. It is the basis of the political philosophy outlined by Thomas Jefferson as the "separation of church and state". This also comes from the idea of dualism. A man can be both religious and political but not at the same time.

I would argue this is foolish and brought up out of a feeling that rational thinking is the only process to be valid of a thinking man.

Yet, in a culture like Mexico, insults can also be used if directed toward a friend or family member as a sign of endearment or love.

Like the statement mi gordito which obviously means my little fat son or friend if aimed at friend is a kind gesture. American culture has tried so hard to delete put-downs and yet another facet of society uses as many insults as possible.

Mentally retarded just means slow to learn not idiot or someone stupid like it is used today.

Gay everybody used to use as happy and not odd, queer etc. "That's so gay" is one the most uneducated uses of gay there ever was.

ignorant meant knew nothing of a given topic(or lack the knowledge of) not somebody who refuses to learn about things.

Yet, we seem to think that politically correct was somehow a new thing when Humphrey Bogart was fined for saying "damn" in a movie in the 40-50s. Believe it or not the republicans have never worked for politically correct. Democrats like Hillary and Bill, and especially the Gores were adamant about pushing it. Oddly democratic actors destroyed it and they wonder why the democrats are considered one of the least organized parties.

I for one am happy to see an end to insults especially racial ones. They only seek to divide people and make them seem less than one another. The reality is we do need to work on speaking with a little more caring than insults. America is divided because many people just don't care. Yet, we don't need a system just people thinking a great deal more than just opening their mouths.

[Dragon-Smaug]

General political correctness is definitely good, as in avoiding insulting people left and right. But there are also instances of too much political correctness in society. It can also become a danger, so I advocate limited political correctness as a guideline and not a rule.

At 12/28/06 02:21 PM, Neoptolemus wrote: Well, just look at what's written in my sig and then you'll be able to devise my position on it.

Forget political correctness, Neoptolemus' position is against many forms of correctness.

"If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."

Oh, yer talking bout yer quote. Well, at least your sig is not completely incorrect (i.e. good quote).

[The-evil-bucket]

The politicaly correct term for "Politicaly Correct" would be "Proper specification". Just kidding. I have no problem with people who make everything "Politicaly correct". I don't see why your so annoyed, of course you can say whatever you want. Freedom of speech.

[packow]

The whole idea of P.C. is, ironically, the least politically correct idea ever.

[Slizor]

Sorry, I'm not familiar with this "Political Correctness", can anyone show me some examples of it being enacted?

[Peter-II]

Political correctness doesn't actually exist to any meaningful extent, at least not an extent at which it's worth complaining about. Essentially, the whole idea of it has been blown vastly out of proportion.

For instance, nobody really wants to ban Christmas. That's total bullshit.

However, it does exist in that people will be offended if you call a mentally disabled person a "retard" or something similar. At that level, political correctness has a purpose, namely, so that people or minority groups aren't offended. Although, I do agree that calling mentally disabled people "special" is...retarded, so to speak.

[Neoptolemus]

At 12/28/06 04:37 PM, Dragon-Smaug wrote:

Forget political correctness, Neoptolemus' position is against many forms of correctness.

Strangely enough i found that quite amusing.. Kudos to you good sir!

[Oblivia]

I find political correctness is unneccesary (if not, only optional) and it is only best be used in puns as well as a professional letter to someone.

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

Question: is pc the same as nuancing yourself and trying to have a notsotenced confersation?

[Sigma-Lambda]

At 12/28/06 02:04 PM, Mistertbones wrote: I really hate the idea of political correctness. What idiot, excuse me "mentally challenged" person thought of that idea. Those politicaly correct jackasses can't let us say idiot, stupid, midget, jackass, and other words. Too many people use this speech. I am politically incorrect, and I am proud of it!

You have to understand that there is a line. Being asked to call someone "mentally challenged" instead of "a retard" is a valid request. Being asked to call someone "of Western European descent" instead of "white" is not. Don't get the two confused.

[Der-Ubermensch]

We have become a lazy, weakness coddling society. In this age of science and enlightenment, there should be no excuse for such.

Moderate fascism, moral indoctrination, a healthy belief in the survival of the fittest and a dash of eugenics = what society SHOULD be.

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

At 12/30/06 05:28 PM, Der-Ubermensch wrote: Moderate fascism, moral indoctrination, a healthy belief in the survival of the fittest and a dash of eugenics = what society SHOULD be.

Young lad, pc IS moral indoctrination! And about the eugenics, how are you going to chek if someone is not genitical superior? Measure up his nose?

[Der-Ubermensch]

At 12/31/06 06:00 AM, TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID wrote:

At 12/30/06 05:28 PM, Der-Ubermensch wrote: Moderate fascism, moral indoctrination, a healthy belief in the survival of the fittest and a dash of eugenics = what society SHOULD be.

Young lad, pc IS moral indoctrination! And about the eugenics, how are you going to chek if someone is not genitical superior? Measure up his nose?

Aged sir, pc is fed to us by the corrupt and morally abject. Haven't you ever heard of genetic mapping? I'm not suggesting that we rid ourselves of our current social burdens, but that we spare future generations the plight of enduring needless suffering. Some people should be sterilized for the greater good of humanity.

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

At 12/31/06 08:43 AM, Der-Ubermensch wrote:

:Some people should be sterilized for the greater good of humanity.

Like who, and who is going to decide who is good enough?
I don;'t mind the idea in principle, but practicly it's hard to put it on wheels.

[Der-Ubermensch]

At 1/1/07 12:36 PM, TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID wrote:

At 12/31/06 08:43 AM, Der-Ubermensch wrote: Some people should be sterilized for the greater good of humanity.

Like who, and who is going to decide who is good enough?
I don;'t mind the idea in principle, but practicly it's hard to put it on wheels.

I'm for the elimination of bad genes with regards to serious genetic defects. Vanity also urges me to push for the weeding out of totally unattractive people ( Call me an asshole, see if I flinch). We're far overdue for an evolutionary step up. Humans have the power to become higher beings. We have SO MUCH potential.

[TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID]

At 1/1/07 01:37 PM, Der-Ubermensch wrote:

At 1/1/07 12:36 PM, TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID wrote:

At 12/31/06 08:43 AM, Der-Ubermensch wrote: Some people should be sterilized for the greater good of humanity.

Like who, and who is going to decide who is good enough?
I don;'t mind the idea in principle, but practicly it's hard to put it on wheels.

I'm for the elimination of bad genes with regards to serious genetic defects. Vanity also urges me to push for the weeding out of totally unattractive people ( Call me an asshole, see if I flinch). We're far overdue for an evolutionary step up. Humans have the power to become higher beings. We have SO MUCH potential.

I agree, but like i said, polliticly seen it's hard to put on wheels, since there are so many PC nazi's that think it's cruel. Justice from the underdog position is fatal.
That's why i follow a more careful philosofie. Everyone has a value for something, even if it's seen like a negative one in the first place.
You can turn a disadvantage into an advantage, if you act the right way. But some people even see that as cruel.
People should complimentate eachother instead of concurring.
Many people around here don't do anything, but still are seen as "victims" cause it's obviously not their fault right?
In old times, people around here that lived on the streets, or that we're alcoholics were put in camps!
Yes that's right, camps.
They we're send to a veen colony in Drenthe and put to work.
But these days that's obviously to cruel and injust right?
I think it's injust that someone gets money without producing something!

[Der-Ubermensch]

I see the situation much as a doctor would a patient who's arm is stricken with severe gangrene.
It is preferable to sever the lost limb in order to ensure the health and future prosperity of the patient.

The sooner we act, the sooner we can move forward as a united human race,

[Dragon-Smaug]

WTF I can't beleive I'm reading two people talk seriously about this.

At 12/31/06 08:43 AM, Der-Ubermensch wrote: Some people should be sterilized for the greater good of humanity.

Would you say that even if you would be sterilized?

It is inhuman to perform sterilization involuntarily on any human.

[psycho-squirrel2]

political incorrectness is the way to go.

ex.
man in a weel chair, who cant walk

political correctness:
physically challenced

political incorectness:
cripple on weels

whichs ones funnier?