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At 12/27/06 04:10 AM, SenorPresidente wrote: I have no problems with gays. more girls for us straights
but.........
i wouldn't want them near my children. I want my children to grow up loving woman cause nature wanted it that way. Nature didn't want grown man to fuck little boys/girls cause they aren't ready. So i don't want my children to grow in a way that wasn't meant to be. I also don't have problems with gay marriages.

It's not a choice to be gay. If your kids were to grow up to be homosextual, that they would have been that way since birth.

Oh also, saying that homosextual men rape little kids is just ignorance. There is a BIG difference between homosextuallity and pedophilia. Pedophilia is a mental disorder many times caused by sextual abuse as a kid. Gay people aren't pedophiles and asuming that is incredably bigoted and prejudiced.

At 12/27/06 10:20 AM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

It's not a choice to be gay. If your kids were to grow up to be homosextual, that they would have been that way since birth.

I think choosing to be gay IS a choice.

Oh also, saying that homosextual men rape little kids is just ignorance. There is a BIG difference between homosextuallity and pedophilia. Pedophilia is a mental disorder many times caused by sextual abuse as a kid. Gay people aren't pedophiles and asuming that is incredably bigoted and prejudiced.

Sorry if i gave out the wrong message. I didn't call homosexuals pedophiles. i was using pedophiles as an example. Nature didn't inted for grown man to have sex with children and nature didn't want men on men. I just don't want my future children around gay men cause they make see this behavior an may start acting that way.

At 12/27/06 08:23 AM, Goldensheep wrote:

So to summarise -
Monks are just as evil as gays, because they don't procreate.
It is your 'duty' to society to pass on your genes, to an overpopulated, under-resourced world.

I disagree...

Oh, don't forget Catholic Preists are all evil too since church law says they cannot marry nor can they procreate. All that hard work of their elders wasted. Such a shame.

At 12/27/06 02:27 PM, ReiperX wrote:

Oh, don't forget Catholic Preists are all evil too since church law says they cannot marry nor can they procreate. All that hard work of their elders wasted. Such a shame.

don't forget about the Pope!

Because, most men find gay people around them to be uncomfortable. So, men tend to be hostile toward gays. Why are men more uncomfortable around gays than women? That's still up for debate.

At 12/27/06 02:43 PM, drDAK wrote: Why are men more uncomfortable around gays than women? That's still up for debate.

I'd say because the women know the gays aren't checking them out.

At 12/27/06 03:38 PM, BanditByte wrote:

At 12/27/06 02:43 PM, drDAK wrote: Why are men more uncomfortable around gays than women? That's still up for debate.

I'd say because the women know the gays aren't checking them out.

Whats the problem about being check out by a gay man? Is there really a difference between a woman and a guy checking you out?

At 12/27/06 04:02 PM, ReiperX wrote:

Whats the problem about being check out by a gay man? Is there really a difference between a woman and a guy checking you out?

If a girls checks you out there may be possibilities of you fucking her. if a guy checks you out he may want to fuck you.

People hate gays for 5 reasons
ignorence
stupidity
there own ego
there fucked in the head
and they were probably molested as a child

At 12/27/06 04:02 PM, ReiperX wrote: Whats the problem about being check out by a gay man? Is there really a difference between a woman and a guy checking you out?

Well, if you're straight it'd be uncomfortable for someone of the same, whom you have no interest in, to have feelings sexual and maternal attraction to you.

At 12/27/06 02:43 PM, drDAK wrote: Because, most men find gay people around them to be uncomfortable. So, men tend to be hostile toward gays. Why are men more uncomfortable around gays than women? That's still up for debate.

Women aren't as hostile towards gay men because they have no fear of being labled as gay. A lot of times women hang out with gay men because there is no sextual actraction between the two and if they are seen together in public, the woman won't be looked down upon for being different.

On the other hand, if a strait man is seen with a gay man, that there is the possibility that other people might think that the strait man is gay.

I dob't get why people care,(course I don't get alot of social things due to a slight Autism), It's rediculous "You like men you evil!"? What the fuck? People are so stupid they repeat the same mistake over and over. Racism, anti-semitism, sexism, Homophobia, it's all the same damn thing.

At 12/27/06 04:02 PM, ReiperX wrote:
Whats the problem about being check out by a gay man? Is there really a difference between a woman and a guy checking you out?

I honestly have no problem with gay men hitting on me. I'm stright and just take it as an ego boost.

But from my stand point the major problem with gays comes from people's upbringing. If you go through your whole life being told something is bad, that it is evil, and being isolated from it. Then you will grow up hating it. The longer this continues the more you will isolate yourself from it. eventually you will have kids and then pass on the hate to them. They will pass it on to their generation and so on and so forth. This cycle will continue until someone, breaks the isloation and learns. Its happened like this for mellienia. It honsetly seems to be an outdated survival tactic, if its different then you don't trust it. Its jsut a matter of testing the waters, until understanding can be achived.

Smelly dicks.

Really, I think it's just people feeling uncomfortable about having gay things done to them, not realizing that gay people don't have much sex with heterosexuals.

At 12/27/06 02:04 PM, SenorPresidente wrote: Sorry if i gave out the wrong message. I didn't call homosexuals pedophiles. i was using pedophiles as an example. Nature didn't inted for grown man to have sex with children and nature didn't want men on men. I just don't want my future children around gay men cause they make see this behavior an may start acting that way.

Playing Devil's Advocate...

I believe you are wrong because, if you are still on the "nature's argument" deal, nature would want us to procreate as fast as possible... and for waiting a young virgin to become sexually active and consentual adult will take too much time, thus putting the human population in dire peril of extinction.

But if you allow men to fuck little girls at a young age, this will make those little girls hyper sexualized. They will be experianced and upon the age of sexual maturity (as young as 12.) They will be ready to put back their genes in the human population. This will greatly increase a female's bearing years from age 12 to 50 (instead of 20 to 40 as people more or less plan their families.)

Of curse, this is what nature would want.
And other wise is against nature which is, according to what you may believe, is bad.

Of course, I don't believe in this (unlike you-- perv)
Because I have enough sense to see that has humanity we've done many things that's not found in nature like... using tools, wars, medicine, and anything that's a property of people.

People need scapegoats to hurt and kill. First there were slaves, then Asian-Americans imigents. Now these people. It is natrael. Not neccisarly right, but natruel

At 12/28/06 10:07 AM, The-evil-bucket wrote: People need scapegoats to hurt and kill. First there were slaves, then Asian-Americans imigents. Now these people. It is natrael. Not neccisarly right, but natruel

Why do you consider it wrong?

At 12/27/06 04:52 PM, SenorPresidente wrote:

At 12/27/06 04:02 PM, ReiperX wrote:

Whats the problem about being check out by a gay man? Is there really a difference between a woman and a guy checking you out?

If a girls checks you out there may be possibilities of you fucking her. if a guy checks you out he may want to fuck you.

I check women out all the time, and I'm married. There is no chance in hell that I would ever cheat on my wife though. My wife checks guys out, and she wouldn't cheat on me. I've been checked out by women and gay guys as well, guess what there is no chance in hell either one is sleeping with me ever. So whats the difference? And a person's desire to "fuck someone" does not mean that it is going to happen. Most of the gay guys that hit on me stop hitting on me when they find out I'm straight, and we still have a drink and talk just like normal people.

At 12/27/06 09:18 PM, BanditByte wrote:
Well, if you're straight it'd be uncomfortable for someone of the same, whom you have no interest in, to have feelings sexual and maternal attraction to you.

Why would it be uncomfortable? Have you ever in your life been attracted to one of your female friends even though she has no interest in you what so ever? Have you ever been attracted to a friend's wife? I know I have in both cases, and it didn't seem to bother that person. There is no difference.

At 12/28/06 10:26 AM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

At 12/28/06 10:07 AM, The-evil-bucket wrote: People need scapegoats to hurt and kill. First there were slaves, then Asian-Americans imigents. Now these people. It is natrael. Not neccisarly right, but natruel

Why do you consider it wrong?

Did I ever say it was wrong?

At 12/28/06 04:49 PM, The-evil-bucket wrote:

At 12/28/06 10:26 AM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: Why do you consider it wrong?

Did I ever say it was wrong?

Well, not right = wrong so...

IMO, this is one stupid topic.

Now i'm not one to speak because i'm not exactly happy with gays either. They can all get pushed into the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and get nuked for all i know, or care. I'm sure the only thing standing between that happening and not happening is that human rights crap. Something about freedom? Yeah. Anyways. I really don't feel comfortable being around gay people, no offense, but their "life style" seems to throw me off. I know a few gays in my area, they weren't gay from birth. If you ask me, something physcological must've gone wrong in their system to -turn- gay. Whatever it is, its THEIR FREE WILL. As much as i love to persecute in public and make an ass of myself, gays just aren't worth it in my opinion.

Yeah sure we all have our stay points and view. But whats there to argue about? We're all going to have different opinion on things, heck thats whats make us unique. Perhapes that's why we're all scared of gays, cause they have their view and it's quite different.

"What does everyone have against gay". I think the answers already been presented to us, fear. You fear something, you persecute and hurt it, and then you try to get rid of it. How many gay guys are killed yearly? Why are they killed? Becasue their f-ing gay. What else can be said? I hate gays because of their life style, it's just...gay! What else are we to say? If you saw a guy with a pink strip shirt, wearing a speedo thong thing coming up to you in a bar and started rubbing your back. Yeah, i'd punch someone then walk away.

So all in all...whats there to argue? Something about peanut and almonds? All the man ask for was an answer. Not some arguement about wether or not its right to do this or treat that to gays.

Oddly, hatred for any individual is more than ignorance.

First ignorance means someone blindly hates another individual without knowing why.

If someone says they hate homosexuals with a reason it is not prejudice but blatant discrimination. If it is their parents or societies reason, it does return to ignorance.

I know that even growing up not following everybody else behavior is a usual basis to be discriminated against. Given statistics which put homosexuality between 10-30% of American population, many people look at it as odd or anti-cultural whether it is societal, religious, or cultural.

I do not care if people are now expecting others to agree with their side people will always be against it. It is ignorant to think otherwise. Yet, as a growing society and constantly changing psyche, we all can learn to accept others opinions as valid as our own. This does not mean we must believe what others value is best. We can accept difference.

Difference makes many people cringe and lash out in anger. Many people argue the church procreates much of this hatred for homosexuals; although homosexuality is a sin in both Jewish and Christian circles, the Bible does do teach to condemn people who live outside of the church. Thus, even people of the church should not be discriminating homosexuals.

The church has too been blinded by focusing on individuals and not the sin. Thus, love the sinner and not the sin becomes clouded and gets choked up to say hate the sinner too. This is incorrect and un-Christian.

The biggest procreatory of homosexual bigotry I can see is the news media. The media has always sought to show everything unbiased or that is what they would like us to think. They exploit both the church and homosexual bigotry but they do not exploit churches that protect the homosexual community but do not support their sexual lifestyle. The media is a procreator of change or feel the consequences. Either a church is extreme left or extreme right. Both these factions of churches are always on opposite sides of the what real Christianity means. One seeks to write off homosexuals as monsters and the other tries to hide any trace that the Bible condemns homosexuality.

The media also exploits the bizarre homosexuals but rarely focuses on the normal population. The whole reason why conservatives think there is some kind of homosexual agenda is because of the news media. They want people to tolerate homosexuality but not accept differences. I am very surprised that the homosexual community has not gone after the media because ever since the media has handled this issues it has been either left or right and the moderates cannot be heard.

There are great deal of reasons why homosexuals get discriminated against; yet, it will take individuals who will fight to accept difference and not compromise their own beliefs to truly make a difference. Diversity is necessary but compromise does not always create a better solution.

At 12/28/06 10:16 AM, jAk88 wrote: I have absolutely nothing against gays.

More of you need to be more like this man

At 12/27/06 02:04 PM, SenorPresidente wrote:

At 12/27/06 10:20 AM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

It's not a choice to be gay. If your kids were to grow up to be homosextual, that they would have been that way since birth.

I think choosing to be gay IS a choice.

Despite what you may think, science says otherwise.

And also people hate gays causa religion.

I havn't heard of many instances were gays have been beaten up, let alone killed, and if a couple have, theres been no way as near as many attacks on gays as there is on different races or even over which football team you support.

Theres no big problem of gays being attacked, they may be picked on but then some people are immature.I dont have anything against homosexual,

allthough I think its a bit unfair denying your parents grandchildren.
(only jokin)

In my experience its been either homophobic, a bible beater, or someone who has never met a gay person.