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America is getting ready to get civil administration set to work in Iraq. That's wery good thing acctually, but in the other hand. What the fuck does usa do in the Iraq!!!! YK/UK is the one to create civil administration in Iraq!!!!!!!!!!
This whole war affirm that usa is killing people for oil of Iraq. If you think what does someone poor civilian in Iraq think about this all. Then you'll undersood that United Satates of America is from George W. Bushs ASS!!!!!!!

You're obviously not from an English speaking country, sir. And civilians in Irag are treated like garbage anyway. Who cares if you think it's about oil? It will liberate their people. Oh, and the people matter so much to you, right?

No, I'm not good in English. Offcourse i care about people in iraq if your kind of idiots just goes there and shoot innocent people!!!!
And what the fuck does make oil in Iraq belong to American dogs anyway? I would say that Iraq should have keep their oil!

Despite my negative opinions on the war, I never felt greed for oil was the main driving force behind it. Yes, oil is a factor. It's impossible for it not to be. WMD, Iraqi freedom, these reasons can be the noblest of all intentions. Oil will still be a factor. Arguing that greedy oil companies will get hold of all that oil. Let's just assume that is so. Still better than how Saddam controlled it. Taking the oil from the Iraqi people? They never had it in the first place if Saddam took in all the profits.

Message from ZamiC:
As ya see... i'm from Finland. If i could choose from USA or Iraq, I would deffeneatelly choose IRAQ!!!!!!!
----->Well since you opened yourself up for it

1)You would NOT have a computer much less be able to bad mouth any one in Saddams govt openly so enough with the cyber tuff guy stuff.

2)whats with you and the "its for oil" thing? Its so passe and old...

3)Gee who do you want to admin the country? France? Get real--if it were for oil the USA would have set up garrisons by now

Please come back when your able to make some valid debate worthy points rather than something that has been basicly kicked to death...
On a personal note...hate the USA all you want I seriously doubt (based on the intellect level demonstrated by your not so witty commentary) anyone in the US really cares particulary since you have not participated in any of your countries elections nor have you contributed to your country---basicly your just another kid ranting off and to be quite frank=WTF do you think you would do in iraq for food/money/shelter? Do you even speak iraqi well enough to convince them not to kill a non muslim/infidel?

At 4/8/03 04:33 AM, ichbincow wrote: Message from ZamiC:
As ya see... i'm from Finland. If i could choose from USA or Iraq, I would deffeneatelly choose IRAQ!!!!!!!
----->Well since you opened yourself up for it

1)You would NOT have a computer much less be able to bad mouth any one in Saddams govt openly so enough with the cyber tuff guy stuff.

2)whats with you and the "its for oil" thing? Its so passe and old...

3)Gee who do you want to admin the country? France? Get real--if it were for oil the USA would have set up garrisons by now

Please come back when your able to make some valid debate worthy points rather than something that has been basicly kicked to death...
On a personal note...hate the USA all you want I seriously doubt (based on the intellect level demonstrated by your not so witty commentary) anyone in the US really cares particulary since you have not participated in any of your countries elections nor have you contributed to your country---basicly your just another kid ranting off and to be quite frank=WTF do you think you would do in iraq for food/money/shelter? Do you even speak iraqi well enough to convince them not to kill a non muslim/infidel?

You americans are the same! Stupid and blind! Have you notised that every war what usa have had. You had the best war macines, airplanes, artillery, special forses and stuff like that. But EVERY time when you are in war against someone you get fuckt. You remember Vietnam? Offcourse you do! Those guys didn't have even uniform or any kind of training. What did you have? Everything! helicopters and stuff... I laught to you. And if i kould i spitted to your face!

i feel stupider having just read this...

i don't care how un-American you are, but the second you say this war is for oil, you turn into an idiot. and everyone else that reads it becomes even more ignorant because of you. here's a tip. get a real opinion instead of getting spoon fed the same rubbish every other misinformed human being posesses.

and don't start with Vietnam. i can say with honesty that it may have been one of the most arrogant and, subsequently, stupidest war in the history of man. so many things that were just plain wrong with the whole planning of the war, etc.

At 4/8/03 03:36 AM, evilkate wrote: Who cares if you think it's about oil?

..we care to listen at least :)

It will liberate their people. It's not that simple like GOOD VS EVIL. War is never so simple an issue.

True. Consider, Iraqi cities are now largely without police or government. Tribal leaders will fight for the spoils of post-war Iraq, every oil contract, every inch of dessert territory, members on the new administration.. err, "Quasi-Government" as BUSh calls it.

Every power struggle is Survival of the Fattest - not just good vrs evil.. on that note i say; "power to the people!"

At 4/8/03 03:02 AM, ZamiC wrote: I'm from Finland. I can speak not english well. Sucks America! Bush blows me.

I usually don't make fun of those who have poor english skills, but it's unmistakeable that you are an idiot.

You can be as anti-American as you wish, and you can be as pro-Saddam as you wish. But the fact that you cannot bring a decent arguement to the table to save your life won't help you.

Now I'd like to respond to this last bit... about our wars... Vietnam, etc...

JUST BECAUSE FINLAND BENDS OVER AND GETS ASS-RAPED EVERY TIME SOMEONE WANTS TO CONQUER IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR IDIOTIC OPINIONS AND ACT LIKE THEY COUNT. THEY DON'T. YOUR OPINIONS DO NOT HELP, THEY DO NOT EARN YOU ANY RESPECT. THE USA IS THE ONLY SUPERPOWER. DEAL WITH IT.
And go make me some furniture.
Thank you.

Let's see... every war the US gets into we get fucked...
Aside from Vietnam.... I don't see what you mean. You ARE stupid.

By the way.... If it were not for America, you wouldn't even have a computer. Or your precious Internet.

Yes, because Al Gore invented the internet, that crazy kid. On a distant note, despite my rabid Democratic standings, I wouldn't have wanted to see Al Gore in this situation. Needless to say he wouldn't have invaded Iraq, but I don't think he would have been calm enough to handle the Afghanistan thing without making some mistakes. Oh well, we did forget to put in that government we promised. Ssh...it's just a bunch of rocks anyway.

At 4/8/03 10:47 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

Oh well, we did forget to put in that government we promised. Ssh...it's just a bunch of rocks anyway.

tell that to the afghans.

We hate you, You hate the government, The government hates Iraq.

Interesting.

At 4/8/03 04:17 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: We hate you, You hate the government, The government hates Iraq.

Interesting.

It's what I like to call "The Nemesisz Cycle"

At 4/8/03 07:46 AM, ZamiC wrote:

You americans are the same! Stupid and blind! Have you notised that every war what usa have had. You had the best war macines, airplanes, artillery, special forses and stuff like that. But EVERY time when you are in war against someone you get fuckt. You remember Vietnam? Offcourse you do! Those guys didn't have even uniform or any kind of training. What did you have? Everything! helicopters and stuff... I laught to you. And if i kould i spitted to your face!

Can you name any other war where we got "fuckt". And as for your hatred of the U.S. government, when finland became A democracy It based it's government on America's so you hate the war so much and think it is wrong you only are saying that your government is also wrong, If we could make a "flaw" like that then you sure could.

At 4/8/03 07:46 AM, ZamiC wrote:

You americans are the same! Stupid and blind! Have you notised that every war what usa have had. You had the best war macines, airplanes, artillery, special forses and stuff like that. But EVERY time when you are in war against someone you get fuckt. You remember Vietnam? Offcourse you do! Those guys didn't have even uniform or any kind of training. What did you have? Everything! helicopters and stuff... I laught to you. And if i kould i spitted to your face!

Well... It's good to see you are almost as knowledgeable in the arts of war as you are at Political Philosophy, spelling, grammar, and any other academic discipline you may try your hand at. You scoff at the US Military for not being able to fight an enemy without a uniform. That's called guerilla warfare, douchebag, and it is a huge equalizer on the battlefield. The most difficult thing to do in combat is fight an unidentified assailant. I'm sure you already knew that though, seeing as your scathing wit and unflawed logic have already led you down the path of truth, whether others like it or not. lol.

Success always breeds contempt. America is the greatest country in the history of mankind. Deal with it, you insignifant Scandinavian freak.

Let me see if I can break this down in your own broken English so you'll understand:

You = Finnish
Your psuedo-argument = Finished

At 4/8/03 05:08 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

At 4/8/03 04:17 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote:

We hate you, You hate the government, The government hates Iraq.

Interesting.

That's what I like to call "The Nemesisz Cycle"

O I C ...bicycle analogy :)

"if you're not peddling forwards, then you are peddling backwards!"

..or ironic version;

"..if you're not peddling for US, then you are just as likely peddling pre-soaked American flags to Arabs holding matches"

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At 4/8/03 05:19 PM, jimsween wrote:

At 4/8/03 07:46 AM, ZamiC wrote:

Can you name any other war where we got "fuckt". And as for your hatred of the U.S. government, when finland became A democracy It based it's government on America's so you hate the war so much and think it is wrong you only are saying that your government is also wrong, If we could make a "flaw" like that then you sure could.

Did Finland really base its democracy on the USA or is this an arrogant assumption that the US has the perfect democratic model that all democratic nations follow?

At 4/8/03 07:46 AM, ZamiC wrote:
You americans are the same! Stupid and blind! Have you notised that every war what usa have had. You had the best war macines, airplanes, artillery, special forses and stuff like that. But EVERY time when you are in war against someone you get fuckt. You remember Vietnam? Offcourse you do! Those guys didn't have even uniform or any kind of training. What did you have? Everything! helicopters and stuff... I laught to you. And if i kould i spitted to your face!

You stupid little fuck, You remember WWII? The Germans had the most advanced weapons by far in that war and if our soldiers hadn't fought as galantly as they had you no where you would be right now? You would be screaming "Sieg Heil to the master race!" or more likely if you had the misfortune to not be Germanic your family would have been exterminated long ago.

At 4/8/03 09:10 PM, nomisdp wrote:

Did Finland really base its democracy on the USA or is this an arrogant assumption that the US has the perfect democratic model that all democratic nations follow?

When my friend did his essay in civics he had to do alot of reasearch of other governments and how they were created, I remember him going on about finlands government and the electoral college and stuff I dont remember if he said that finlands government was made from ours but I do remember that Finland's government Is Very much the same as ours. And America is one of the few countries whos democracy was entirely made up,
I cant think of any other country that made thiers up.

At 4/8/03 09:32 PM, jimsween wrote: I cant think of any other country that made thiers up.

The Greeks had a republic thousands of years ago. It wasn't as free as the the current U.S. democratic republic, but was similar to the United States' system when it was first implemented.

Almost every democratic government on the face of this planet is modeled after the US government.

France, for example utilizes a separation of government into 3 sections. Executive, Legislative, Judicial.

At 4/8/03 09:40 PM, TheShrike wrote: Almost every democratic government on the face of this planet is modeled after the US government.

France, for example utilizes a separation of government into 3 sections. Executive, Legislative, Judicial.

but the thing is that the US government came from that of ancient Rome and Greece and look how swell those civilizations did.

At 4/8/03 09:40 PM, TheShrike wrote: Almost every democratic government on the face of this planet is modeled after the US government.

France, for example utilizes a separation of government into 3 sections. Executive, Legislative, Judicial.

The US is just using a modified version of the European Parlimentary system.
So, it is acually the other way around. America modeled it's government after those in Europe. They took ideas mostly from England, but they do have ideas in their government from other countries.
The 12 man jury, for example, was first documented in Iceland in the early 1000s.

Flatty, and Starcleaver...

You both have valid points, but to be more specific-

Many foreign governments have modeled their constitutions after ours. And where applicable, Our Declaration of Independence.

We are building upon old ideas, and we borrowed our leagal code from England, but the point I'm making is that many modern democracies are emulating US. Not the Romans.

We improved upon that system, they use our improvements, they emulate us. I'm not trying to say we invented democracy. I'm saying our version is the most widely used today.

American Democracy V 277.4.8! Get yours today!

At 4/8/03 07:46 AM, ZamiC wrote:

You americans are the same! Stupid and blind! Have you notised that every war what usa have had. You had the best war macines, airplanes, artillery, special forses and stuff like that. But EVERY time when you are in war against someone you get fuckt. You remember Vietnam? Offcourse you do! Those guys didn't have even uniform or any kind of training. What did you have? Everything! helicopters and stuff... I laught to you. And if i kould i spitted to your face!

By the way...if Vietname is your best argument well i guess you just totally forgot about Afghanistan!

and Finland, the land that always gets gobbled up by Russia and Sweden throughout history has its century of sovereignty. Enjoy it while it lasts. And by the way, how's the water, because it's you that needs the oil more than us. I'm glad i'm leaving the burner on.
Oh and by the way....

At 4/8/03 11:19 PM, star_cleaver wrote:

but the thing is that the US government came from that of ancient Rome and Greece and look how swell those civilizations did.

So your Anti-democracy? The reasons those cities fell is because they took the power away from the people, and the rising christianity.

Has anyone noticed the way we scare the original posters out of the thread, then start argueing with other new people/ourselves....

Damn we're rabid.

At 4/8/03 11:46 PM, TheShrike wrote: Has anyone noticed the way we scare the original posters out of the thread, then start argueing with other new people/ourselves....

Damn we're rabid.

n00bs don't have a high success rate of holding their own even on their own topics

The dude was a mental midget, the debating skills of a severly retarded ground squirrel could have scared him off.

actually he's sleeping in finland currently.