End Game

[Jax-Cross]

Now that the war is pretty much over, what do you think will happen to Iraq. What are we going to do with the remains of the counrty and what SHOULD we do with it. WHo deserves the benifits who doesn't that sort of thing.

[bumcheekcity]

At 4/7/03 09:15 PM, Jax_Cross wrote: Now that the war is pretty much over, what do you think will happen to Iraq. What are we going to do with the remains of the counrty and what SHOULD we do with it. WHo deserves the benifits who doesn't that sort of thing.

Iraq shopuld be given IMMEDIATELY to the UN, which should then set up political parties and give them enough money for funding etc. and to fuel their as campaings. they should than have general election (or something of a similar sort) ever 4 or 5 years.

what WILL happen is very different

[TheloniousMONK]

All I have to say is... keep France out.

[TheShrike]

At 4/8/03 03:53 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Iraq shopuld be given IMMEDIATELY to the UN

What he said. If we install a government that does not work for Iraq, we will get all the blame.

If the UN does it, we will still get blamed, but we can hide behind the UN.

[Ted-Easton]

Why keep France out?
Neither France nor the UN supported the war, yet now that it has occured, they must react. And, as a member, and the UN, respectively, they must help to rebuild the country.
Would you put your own intolerant anti-France sentiments above the welfare of the Iraqi people? They need assistance, and France is one country who is offering it.

[Slizor]

Everything depends on the media coverage, if they follow it up it will get done. If they don't then it probably won't. If you control the media, you control public opinion and public opinion is a very powerful thing...fickle, but powerful.

[JMHX]

At 4/9/03 08:40 AM, Slizor wrote: Everything depends on the media coverage, if they follow it up it will get done. If they don't then it probably won't. If you control the media, you control public opinion and public opinion is a very powerful thing...fickle, but powerful.

I can't say it enough: we're going to give Iraq the same government we gave Afghanistan, which is no government. Well, if you count a guy in a robe being shot at every day a "government".

[Jax-Cross]

I can understand that different countries want to help, but for ones that opposed the war because of finacial gain or loss such as France. I think they should not be aload to help in the rebuilding same for Germany and Russia. They didn't risk anything not a single human life untill the very end why should we let them help.

[TheEvilOne]

Maybe not completely related to the issue of governing post-war Iraq, but has anyone seen the footage of Iraqis looting government offices, celebrating in the streets, and toppling that big statue of Saddam? Looks like they're happy to be rid of him. Seeing this alone makes me feel like this was all worth it, regardless of whether we ever find the weapons.

But as for governing post-war Iraq:
1. It may take a while, but eventually, there will be functioning governments in both Afghanistan and Iraq, which will answer to the people.

2. The UN should have a role in rebuilding Iraq, but should not take the lead.

3. The Iraqi people seem to be very ready to rule themselves, and I believe the new Iraq will be a very prosperous nation.

[HernetheHunter]

I don't think it's a good idea to assume the war's over until they find the bodies and definitely know they took out Saddam & his sons. Don't forget who we're dealing with, and they promised us right from the start that there'd be mind games.

Sure, it'd be nice if they did take out Saddam that quickly, but.......I dunno. Seems too easy.

[bumcheekcity]

At 4/9/03 12:40 PM, HernetheHunter wrote: I don't think it's a good idea to assume the war's over until they find the bodies and definitely know they took out Saddam & his sons. Don't forget who we're dealing with, and they promised us right from the start that there'd be mind games.

yer, but even if we take out saddam and his sons, the baath (sorry if i spelt it wrong) party will still remain. they have money and powerful friends. when the first general elections come up they will threaten, bully, promise and lie to people to get their votes, then get in power again.

we cant really win.

Sure, it'd be nice if they did take out Saddam that quickly, but.......I dunno. Seems too easy.

Im just glad we ending the war!!

[karasz]

SHOULD happen: (why it wont happen)

the kurds in the north should be free to develop their own country (turkey & iran kurds would flee those countries into the newly made kurdistan... and turkey and iran arent about to let that happen...)

the money halliburton recieves from selling oil 35% of the profits should be sent to all the members of the armed services that fought in Iraq... (yeah right people give money away like that... and the same people that cut veterans benefits would give benefits to veterans...)

have 50% of the proceeds from iraqi oil go to the iraqi economy, then have every city send 5 people to a 'constitutional convention' in baghdad for them to set up a constitution... then have elections once the constitution is agreed upon (the US just took control of the country... like hell will they let the iraqi people set up their own govt anytime soon)

[Ted-Easton]

I would support anything that happened in Iraq, so long as the new country was named Curdistan.
As in, "...eating her Curds and Way..."(a nursurey rhyme).

[JudgeDredd]

Iraq and every country that borders it should be broken up into lots of little states the size of and including Israel, all of them with their own Casinos, and it should get a new trendy name like "The Democratic Republic of United Arab States" = *U.A.S* =]

(and they should all share a flag with 52 stars on it ;)

[Nirvana13666]

I think the best thing to do is let the people decide what the want. These people may not be accustomed to giving their opinions on the politics that will preside over their country but I think they have gone through enough oppression from their previous government not to be included in the deciding factor of how their society will be governed. Iraq is a very religious nation and that should also be taken into consideration.

[fourdaddy]

At 4/23/03 09:59 AM, Nirvana13666 wrote: I think the best thing to do is let the people decide what the want.

this is a terrible idea right now. they are very fickle people (cheering saddam when hes in power, cheering the troops when they invade) and they are also rather uneducated people. i say there should be a group of military officers set up as a leading council until the intelligence of the nation can rise to the point that they can make informed decisions. my main argument is that the iraqi people do not know what they want, theyve never had the chance to actually acquire what the want, so they will not make the best (or even a good) decision.

[Nirvana13666]

At 4/23/03 10:42 AM, fourdaddy wrote:

At 4/23/03 09:59 AM, Nirvana13666 wrote: I think the best thing to do is let the people decide what the want.

this is a terrible idea right now. they are very fickle people (cheering saddam when hes in power, cheering the troops when they invade) and they are also rather uneducated people. i say there should be a group of military officers set up as a leading council until the intelligence of the nation can rise to the point that they can make informed decisions. my main argument is that the iraqi people do not know what they want, theyve never had the chance to actually acquire what the want, so they will not make the best (or even a good) decision.

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It is their country and they should have a say in it. America needs to stop their oppression right now by letting them know their voices will heard. That is a major stepping stone for the Iraqi people in understanding what liberation really is.

[bumcheekcity]

At 4/24/03 01:01 PM, Nirvana13666 wrote:

At 4/23/03 10:42 AM, fourdaddy wrote:

At 4/23/03 09:59 AM, Nirvana13666 wrote: I think the best thing to do is let the people decide what the want.

this is a terrible idea right now. they are very fickle people (cheering saddam when hes in power, cheering the troops when they invade) and they are also rather uneducated people. i say there should be a group of military officers set up as a leading council until the intelligence of the nation can rise to the point that they can make informed decisions. my main argument is that the iraqi people do not know what they want, theyve never had the chance to actually acquire what the want, so they will not make the best (or even a good) decision.

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It is their country and they should have a say in it. America needs to stop their oppression right now by letting them know their voices will heard. That is a major stepping stone for the Iraqi people in understanding what liberation really is.

The Iraqui people want to vote, but there are no political poarties for them to vote for. They dont know what it is to be able to talk freely. The people have no idea on how to set up (political) parties and they need someone to take control of the country for two-three years so some political parties can be set up and then people can vote every 5 or so years.

That someone should be the UN.