France Sucks!!!

[Dr-Moose]

I really don't like that country.
what's your opinion?

[DarkCyrstal]

At 4/7/03 05:45 PM, Dr_Moose wrote: I really don't like that country.
what's your opinion?

France is just woried that we are gonna find out some stuff about North Korea selling weapons to Iraq using France. I wouldn;t really hate the French people. 1 out of 3 people in France want America to loose. That means the majority is on our side.

[NJDeadzone]

how many of these topics how we had before?

[TheShrike]

I think all Politics Forum threads count as anti-French (Or is it anti-freedom?)

*kicks a frog*

[aviewaskewed]

At 4/7/03 05:45 PM, Dr_Moose wrote: I really don't like that country.
what's your opinion?

Can you make just ONE post or topic that sounds even HALFWAY intelligent? I don't know which thread is dumber...this one...or the one in the General forum where you suggested getting rid of books.

[Commander-K25]

At 4/7/03 07:09 PM, TheShrike wrote: I think all Politics Forum threads count as anti-French (Or is it anti-freedom?)

*kicks a frog*

***Commander-K25 sets mode: +rage

They can KEEP their crusty bread and fancy wine!

***Commander-K25 sets mode: -rage

[MadMax501]

I don't really hate France or the French people. I do think, though they have forgotten how many times the U.S. has helped them.

[Jiperly]

i got nothing against France.....they're a bunch of wine drinking surrender moneys, but they have a right to choose their posision for the war, as much as America

[Jiperly]

sorry- surrender MONKEYS

[Alejandro1]

At 4/7/03 05:53 PM, DarkCyrstal wrote: France is just woried that we are gonna find out some stuff about North Korea selling weapons to Iraq using France. I wouldn;t really hate the French people. 1 out of 3 people in France want America to loose. That means the majority is on our side.

Well, I dont expect all the French people to support us, but what irritates me is the fact that a third want us to lose. I mean, come on, we've bailed their country out tons of times because they dont know how to defend it. Another thing that pisses me off is the fact that troops found French rifles in Iraq. So those bastards were giving Saddam weapons to save their own asses from losing oil. How much of this can we take?

[OpIvy420]

At 4/7/03 08:24 PM, MadMax501 wrote: I don't really hate France or the French people. I do think, though they have forgotten how many times the U.S. has helped them.

The United States wouldn't even BE a country if it wasn't for France. They were our only allies during the American Revolution. I think we're pretty much even with them right now, so they should be able to have an opinion without racist insults.

[aviewaskewed]

At 4/7/03 09:37 PM, OpIvy420 wrote:

The United States wouldn't even BE a country if it wasn't for France. They were our only allies during the American Revolution. I think we're pretty much even with them right now, so they should be able to have an opinion without racist insults.

A good point, seems like everytime somebody decides not to support us, people immediately grab at the whole "they owe us!" thing, well hell, most of these countries have been in existence longer, they've helped us, we've helped them, we've borrowed from them, they've borrowed from us, it's what friends do, would you really ask your friends to support EVERY decision you make? And if they didn't start whining about how they "owe you"?

[Nightshadeplus]

I think France is a lovely country where you can buy lots and lots of neat stuff. There's one restuarant in Paris that has the best pizza I could find outside of the US. And the hotdogs! Yum! The French really know what they're doing when it comes to food!

Ok, back to politics...France can do the hell they like. If they want to disagree with US foreign policy then let them do it! I'm France has never made any bad decisions when it comes to foreign policy... ;)

[Evanauto]

At 4/7/03 05:53 PM, DarkCyrstal wrote:

France is just woried that we are gonna find out some stuff about North Korea selling weapons to Iraq using France. I wouldn;t really hate the French people. 1 out of 3 people in France want America to loose. That means the majority is on our side.

Or the majority just doesnt care

[Squirrel-Assassin]

THE FRENCH SUCK FAT DONKEY DICK. THOSE FAGGS WITH THEIR BUTTY CHOCKIN JEANS AND THEIR $100 PERMS. THEIR AGAINST THE WAR BECOUSE THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO FIGHT.
PUSSIES.

[TheShrike]

Jive, you're asking to get banned.
thought I'd warn you (although I don't know why I am)

[bumcheekcity]

At 4/8/03 02:12 PM, JIVE_TURKY wrote: THE FRENCH SUCK FAT DONKEY DICK. THOSE FAGGS WITH THEIR BUTTY CHOCKIN JEANS AND THEIR $100 PERMS. THEIR AGAINST THE WAR BECOUSE THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO FIGHT.
PUSSIES.

grow up, loser. im imanigning you are a very intellectual person who has an IQ of over 50 </sarcasm>

[nomisdp]

At 4/7/03 09:19 PM, alejandro1 wrote:

At 4/7/03 05:53 PM, DarkCyrstal wrote:

I mean, come on, we've bailed their country out tons of times because they dont know how to defend it.

tons of times? nmae an instance other than WW2 that France has been bailed out by the USA?

[bumcheekcity]

At 4/8/03 04:03 PM, nomisdp wrote: tons of times? nmae an instance other than WW2 that France has been bailed out by the USA?

exactly. and in WW2 france wasnt bailed out. if they were taken over, britain would soon fall. with britain and fraznce down, russia would follow. then Europe. then, you would have a whole continent with unimaginable power, all controlled y the cleverest and most evil man the world has ever nown.

they went i to save their own asses

[nomisdp]

At 4/8/03 04:15 PM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 4/8/03 04:03 PM, nomisdp wrote: tons of times? nmae an instance other than WW2 that France has been bailed out by the USA?

exactly. and in WW2 france wasnt bailed out. if they were taken over, britain would soon fall.

I agree with your sentiments but France was actually taken over by Germany in WW2.

[Jimsween]

At 4/8/03 09:14 PM, nomisdp wrote:

I agree with your sentiments but France was actually taken over by Germany in WW2.

What I think he means is Frances early surrendering and then allying with Germany (which they did do, some soldiers reported french resistance when liberating) but of course France never misses an oppourtunity to surrender so they once again surrendered but this time to U.S.

[MadMax501]

At 4/7/03 09:37 PM, OpIvy420 wrote:

At 4/7/03 08:24 PM, MadMax501 wrote: I don't really hate France or the French people. I do think, though they have forgotten how many times the U.S. has helped them.

The United States wouldn't even BE a country if it wasn't for France. They were our only allies during the American Revolution. I think we're pretty much even with them right now, so they should be able to have an opinion without racist insults.

yes, and where would France be without our support in both world wars? You also have to remember it was the French royalty assisting us, who we later helped overthrow.

[implodinggoat]

At 4/7/03 09:37 PM, OpIvy420 wrote:

At 4/7/03 08:24 PM, MadMax501 wrote: I don't really hate France or the French people. I do think, though they have forgotten how many times the U.S. has helped them.

The United States wouldn't even BE a country if it wasn't for France. They were our only allies during the American Revolution. I think we're pretty much even with them right now, so they should be able to have an opinion without racist insults.

France wouldn't be a country without us saving their ass in World War II. That made us even, now as for us saving their ass in WWI and attempting to save their ass in Vietnam as well as rebuilding their country after WWII under the Marshall plan I would say they owe us pretty heavily.

[implodinggoat]

At 4/8/03 04:15 PM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 4/8/03 04:03 PM, nomisdp wrote: tons of times? nmae an instance other than WW2 that France has been bailed out by the USA?

exactly. and in WW2 france wasnt bailed out. if they were taken over, britain would soon fall. with britain and fraznce down, russia would follow. then Europe. then, you would have a whole continent with unimaginable power, all controlled y the cleverest and most evil man the world has ever nown.

they went i to save their own asses

We did save our own asses but we also saved the world from being dominated by the Third Reich in the process. Being part of the world it is only natural that we saved our own asses.

I still don't see how it is a crime to serve one's own interests while doing good. Take the Marshall plan for example. We rebuilt Europe so that we would have trading partners in the future as well as for humanitarian purposes but that still doesn't change the results.

[Jimsween]

At 4/7/03 09:37 PM, OpIvy420 wrote:

The United States wouldn't even BE a country if it wasn't for France. They were our only allies during the American Revolution. I think we're pretty much even with them right now, so they should be able to have an opinion without racist insults.

Common misconception, the french aided us with Infantary but most of them rarely saw combat, the real people who helped us were the spanish, they cut off the british ships from resupplying thier troops. GOD BLESS SPAIN!!!

[implodinggoat]

Also if you really want to use the "they were only doing it for their own interests" argument then I might point out that France came to the aid of the United States because they hated the British, not because they were huge fans of democracy.

[implodinggoat]

At 4/8/03 09:49 PM, jimsween wrote: Common misconception, the french aided us with Infantary but most of them rarely saw combat, the real people who helped us were the spanish, they cut off the british ships from resupplying thier troops. GOD BLESS SPAIN!!!

No the French were blockading the Brits as well and their navy is what we needed more than their infantry.

With the French navy keeping the British from getting new supplies and reinforcements we were able to polish them off ourselves.

You have to hand it to the French they used to have balls, but the last Frenchman with balls died in WWI.

[Jimsween]

At 4/8/03 09:54 PM, implodinggoat wrote:

No the French were blockading the Brits as well and their navy is what we needed more than their infantry.

With the French navy keeping the British from getting new supplies and reinforcements we were able to polish them off ourselves.

You have to hand it to the French they used to have balls, but the last Frenchman with balls died in WWI.

France's navy wasnt what helped use, mostly because they were in no place to have a navy. They woul have to either go past britan or spain and niether were very close allies. It was spain *shakes fist*

[PreacherJ]

As a general rule, American history textbooks give the impression that what went on in the thirteen transatlantic British Colonies from 1778 to 1783 was the major phase of the War of the American Revolution. Nevertheless, to most contemporaries outside of America, that was only a small part of a much bigger war-one that may indeed be called a ''world war,'' if by that phrase is meant a struggle fought all over the world. Only a portion of the total forces involved were engaged in what is now the eastern part of the United States and Canada. Others fought in the West Indies, South America, Africa and Asia, and on the high seas. The total number of land forces under arms in the United States seldom if ever, reached more than 40,000 on either side. In only one instance did Washington command more than 16,000 men, and that was at Yorktown, where nearly half of them were French. A bigger army in France had constituted one of the most serious threats of invasion that England had ever had to face before l940, and in Spain another army nearly as large had besieged Gibraltar and invaded Minorca. The fleets that fought in the East and the West Indies sometimes numbered more men than were engaged in the most decisive land battles of the American phase of the conflict.

Eventually nearly every country of Europe was involved directly or indirectly in the war, which was only another in a century-long series that France had been fighting against England for world hegemony. Since the Treaty of 1763, the French had made a vigorous effort to fan the ill-feeling between the American colonies and their mother Country into a flame that could be quenched only with blood. After rebellion started, it would probably have resulted in reconciliation between the colonies and England if the French had been willing that it should end in a peaceful manner. Not only did they form an alliance with the United States, they also brought in the Spanish and the Dutch. Before peace was made, a formidable coalition of world powers was lined up against England instead of merely thirteen under-populated colonies.

France also put a great deal of effort and money into the thirteen colonies themselves. True, the forces sent there were small compared to those sent elsewhere. Likewise, the fleets that sailed there went usually on side-trips from their campaigns in the West Indies. But the visit of one of those fleets proved to be the means by which Cornwallis was cut off from aid or retreat, and the half-army that Rochambeau placed under Washington at Yorktown was the deciding factor in winning that decisive encounter.

So, yes, the French Navy and Army both played a very active part in the Revolutionary War.

Word.

[TheShrike]

*kicks a frog*