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Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 22:57:14 Reply

How the United States "armed" Saddam Hussein

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:07:50 Reply

Nice.


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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:24:34 Reply

At 4/6/03 11:07 PM, TheShrike wrote: Nice.

Note: the chart refers to convention weapons, not biological or chemical. Britian, United States and France takes the honours there as the major suppliers of technology and precursors.

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:31:05 Reply

Good find, Commander. Though we like to not mention that on any of the major news channels or put it in the newspapers. Slate Magazine had something about it, but it was a tiny, bottom of the page snippet.


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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:36:26 Reply

We supply the world with technology (warfare & otherwise)... We've been doing that for quite some time.

So?

It wouldn't be fun picking fights with those who have 18th century technology. I mean... look how long the real battles in Afghanistan lasted. We need a challenge (that we can defeat, or course). We need someone who relys on old Soviet weapons...


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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:37:55 Reply

Why not make a major offensive against Ethiopia? They're already nearly dead anyway.


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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:41:38 Reply

So what if you have concrete "facts," the anti-war protestors have inane opinions, and all the fancy charts in the world can't sway THAT!

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:43:47 Reply

Yeah, but they're taken. Eritrea has that job.


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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:45:51 Reply

At 4/6/03 11:36 PM, TheShrike wrote: We supply the world with technology (warfare & otherwise)... We've been doing that for quite some time.

Supplying Iraq with technology and materials to create chemical and biological weapons? I thought the United States looks down at that. In fact I thought that was one of the "offical" reasons for this war.


So?

That means the US critisism towards Iraq for possesing WMB is hypocritical, because it was the US itself that sold it to them in the first place, and allowed them to get away with using the weapons.

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:49:47 Reply

i recall a huge bunker of Iraqi artillery and ammo being discovered and inventoried by forces...maybe it was an investment

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:53:20 Reply

P-Chan, if I may:

Chemical Weapons + Iraq = War
Selling Weapons + Iraq = Revenue

United States:

Now, just who armed Iraq?


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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:54:29 Reply

last time i checked, successful wars are the US's biggest money maker

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-06 23:55:06 Reply

At 4/6/03 11:54 PM, NJDeadzone wrote: last time i checked, successful wars are the US's biggest money maker

When you're the only game in town, you can't lose.

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 00:02:02 Reply

At 4/6/03 11:53 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: P-Chan, if I may:

Chemical Weapons + Iraq = War
Selling Weapons + Iraq = Revenue

United States:
Hypocrite!

Rock on, bro!

I wish I could see that on a major US station just once. That would be nice.

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 00:03:23 Reply

At 4/6/03 11:53 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: P-Chan, if I may:

Chemical Weapons + Iraq = War
Selling Weapons + Iraq = Revenue

United States:

At the time, we had a common enemy, the USSR and communism. A common enemy makes strange partnerships such as the USSR and the other Allies in WWII. Immediately after the war, the US and UK faced the USSR in the Cold War, but they were not hypocrites for arming and supplying the USSR just a few years earlier because they were allies then. This is the same situation. Saddam used to be our friend, just like Stalin was. Just like Stalin, he turned against us when we no longer had common interests.

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 00:37:52 Reply

At 4/7/03 12:03 AM, Commander-K25 wrote:
At 4/6/03 11:53 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: P-Chan, if I may:

Chemical Weapons + Iraq = War
Selling Weapons + Iraq = Revenue

United States:
At the time, we had a common enemy, the USSR and communism. A common enemy makes strange partnerships such as the USSR and the other Allies in WWII. Immediately after the war, the US and UK faced the USSR in the Cold War, but they were not hypocrites for arming and supplying the USSR just a few years earlier because they were allies then. This is the same situation. Saddam used to be our friend, just like Stalin was. Just like Stalin, he turned against us when we no longer had common interests.

This all reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons,

Lisa?: What will we do about the lizards
Skinner?: We will send in the lizard eating snakes
Lisa: but what will we do with the snakes
Skinner: WE will send in the gorrillas
Lisa: but what will we do with the gorrilas
Skinner: the cold winter will finish them off
Lisa: *scoffs*

US hasent had a history of thinking about the future, just look at global warming...

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 09:29:31 Reply

>That means the US critisism towards Iraq for possesing WMB is hypocritical, because it was the US itself that sold it to them in the first place, and allowed them to get away with using the weapons<

You mean the Reagan administration. NOT THE US. Ol' Ronald sold all those weapons, and stuff to Iraq without making the deals public, and as far as I remember, Dubya is not Ronald. Therefore, all of the mistakes made are in the past, and saying that Bush is hypocritical is bullshit, because the Texan DID NOT FUCKING SELL WEAPONS TO IRAQ.

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 09:54:04 Reply

At 4/7/03 12:37 AM, jimsween wrote: ...just look at global warming...

Way to kill your otherwise legitimate argument...

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 12:31:09 Reply

that chart applies to convientional weapons and as selling WMD's is illegal, its not going to be published on the internet is it?

nobody cares about conventional weapons, its the WMD they want to find, but the americans are hardly going to admit to that are they? and why not? let them liberate the country they enslaved.

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 16:48:38 Reply

At 4/7/03 09:54 AM, NEMESiSZ wrote:
At 4/7/03 12:37 AM, jimsween wrote: ...just look at global warming...
Way to kill your otherwise legitimate argument...

How so?

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 17:13:17 Reply

At 4/7/03 04:48 PM, jimsween wrote:
At 4/7/03 09:54 AM, NEMESiSZ wrote:
At 4/7/03 12:37 AM, jimsween wrote: ...just look at global warming...
Way to kill your otherwise legitimate argument...
How so?

You're never supposed to mention Global Warming. Ever.


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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 17:15:36 Reply

Good!!

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 17:41:41 Reply

At 4/7/03 05:13 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:
You're never supposed to mention Global Warming. Ever.

Uhhh... o...k riiight...

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 18:22:01 Reply

At 4/7/03 12:31 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: let them liberate the country they enslaved.

I believe Saddam ensalved Iraq. I'm not sure what source you are speaking from.

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 18:51:27 Reply

radical religion enslaves the Middle East

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 22:50:30 Reply

At 4/7/03 09:54 AM, NEMESiSZ wrote:
At 4/7/03 12:37 AM, jimsween wrote: ...just look at global warming...
Way to kill your otherwise legitimate argument...

NO GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL. It is the exhoaust and methance gas from the cows. Laugh at me now but it was looked as a scientific theory.

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 23:10:56 Reply

At 4/7/03 10:50 PM, DarkCyrstal wrote:
NO GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL. It is the exhoaust and methance gas from the cows. Laugh at me now but it was looked as a scientific theory.

*shakes head in shame* If you were trying to make global warming look stupid, you succeeded but if you werent, that was the funniest thing in the world...

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Response to Now, just who armed Iraq? 2003-04-07 23:50:57 Reply

At 4/7/03 06:51 PM, NJDeadzone wrote: radical religion enslaves the Middle East

Radical religion will enslave anything it is given the power to.


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