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oh and Europe is a white land because whites went there first and set up their civilizations and created their culture there. You know no other place would allow such immigration, do you think that this kind of thing would happen to the people of god? Fuck no they would kick them out fast.

the people of god being the japanese

and that's just an example.

ps why are you so eager to defend islam like it's your child??

Shhh, don't bash muslims, else Lapis will come in and diss you with his Amsterdam knowledge thingy!

At 12/10/06 05:27 AM, TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID wrote: Shhh, don't bash muslims, else Lapis will come in and diss you with his Amsterdam knowledge thingy!

Here I am. Behold my Amsterdam knowledge thingy, cretin.

At 12/10/06 06:02 AM, lapis wrote:

At 12/10/06 05:27 AM, TwO-FaCeD-PaRaNoID wrote: Shhh, don't bash muslims, else Lapis will come in and diss you with his Amsterdam knowledge thingy!

Here I am. Behold my Amsterdam knowledge thingy, cretin.

Your Amsterdamn knowledge thingy?

Does this have something to do with your keen knowledge of different breeds of fine Marijuana, prostitutes, or coffee?

At 12/10/06 01:13 AM, Kasualty wrote: ps why are you so eager to defend islam like it's your child??

Why are you so eager to assault it liked it killed your family and pissed on their grave?

At 12/10/06 06:36 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Does this have something to do with your keen knowledge of different breeds of fine Marijuana, prostitutes, or coffee?

Something like that. I will now use it to diss you. Your knowledge of different breeds of weed and prostitutes is only mediocre, fool.

I am getting quite sick of them. All it ever is here is muslim organisations bitching about one thing or another and the government just carries on sucking up to them. It's pathetic.

At 12/10/06 11:59 AM, Loch-Ness-Monster wrote: I am getting quite sick of them. All it ever is here is muslim organisations bitching about one thing or another and the government just carries on sucking up to them. It's pathetic.

Yeah like this thing in Holland they made up, some Marocan interest organisations claimed that companies refuse workers when applying for a job, if they had a outlandish like name (muhammed, achmed). It might have happened at some occasions i don't know.
But then the goverment let universities investigate it, and they came to the conclusion that the only thing that makes companies not hire someone, is their lack of education or failure at a job interview.

The next thing i heard, was that the investigation was "flawed." They just have to make up their own reality do they.
I think the problem is, that many Marocan/Turkish kids here speak slang, and haven't finished their VMBO.
I've never met a Marocan under the age of 30 that DIDN'T speak slang.
And never seen one on tv.

But on the other hand, i have nothing against minorities themselves.
But the pesky ones, are the women that stepped off from their faith, and became "independand" they are the ones that think they have an expert knowledge about fucking everything.

Thank god i live in the north!

At 12/9/06 04:22 PM, Tri-nitro-toluene wrote:


You have nothing to fear from immigration.

The Roman Empire lost its culture and slowly faded into the distance largely do to Germanic tribesmen immigrating to the Empire.

The wars it had played a part but Rome would have recovered, if it had still been Rome.

The Barabrians saw no reason to have or use the great achievements of The Empire, like Roads, Bath Houses, Barbers, Ampitheaters, The Senate, Aqueducts, Trade, Unified Currency, in short everything that made Rome what it was.

Since it was no longer used eventually people forgot.

At 12/10/06 03:03 PM, Excalibur27 wrote:

At 12/9/06 04:22 PM, Tri-nitro-toluene wrote:


You have nothing to fear from immigration.

The Roman Empire lost its culture and slowly faded into the distance largely do to Germanic tribesmen immigrating to the Empire.

That is pure b.s. while it is true the roman empire fell it fell gradually over a long period of time and it wasn't because of barbarian immagration. The main reason Rome lost its culture because the "Pax Romana" made life so good most of the romanized people that the roman army had to start to use people who were not romanized in there army. They were the often the barbians that invaded Roman so rome screwed itself

The wars it had played a part but Rome would have recovered, if it had still been Rome.

Also the many bad empires destroy the roman's economy and debased the currency, also Diocletian tied people to the land and roman lost its ability to adapt to its life

The Barabrians saw no reason to have or use the great achievements of The Empire, like Roads, Bath Houses, Barbers, Ampitheaters, The Senate, Aqueducts, Trade, Unified Currency, in short everything that made Rome what it was.

They still used the baths, Aqueducts, roads there even still in use today all over Europe but only the most Romanized people had lots of roads and Aqueducts and with the fall a huge body of information was lost and the wealth needed to maintain the infracture did not exist

Since it was no longer used eventually people forgot.

Also the eastern Roman empire lasted till the 1400's so Roman technailly did not fall till after a milliena

Rome never truly "fell" it faded, its true it technically remained as the Byzantine Empire.
However the true Roman culture and identity dissapeared and became the Empire of Charlemagne. That dissolved with his death layed the way for Feudal Europe.

Also Byzantium was almost nothing like true classical Rome, it had more in common with Pheonicia and Carthage than Roma.

Also there were many, many reasons for the disentegration of the Empire and immigration was a big part.

Eventually the Germanic peoples who used a barter system and prefered to live off the land
almost outnumbered the true Roman citizens.
Rome struggled to cope with this and failed, as a result it collapsed.
Rome's natural resources also couldnt supply the barbarians.

There were so many it was as though they had conquered Germania but got none of its resouces.

They had its people but not is food, or timber, or space.
As a result they had an a burden unlike any other they had faced, and with no rivals to conquer for resources they were helpless.

Also only a handfull of Romes engineering marvels, including its roads, remain in usable conditions because they were largely FORGOTTEN.

They fell into disuse and as a result disrepair.

At 12/9/06 11:42 PM, Sinthe wrote:

At 12/9/06 09:45 PM, tawb wrote:

At 12/9/06 07:17 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 12/9/06 07:06 PM, Cybex wrote: The ones who make a big fuss about their rights to wear veil's annoy me, but on the whol they're cool.

Why does that annoy you? Is there any reason that they SHOULD take their veil off?

yes in many circumstances there is!! The main ones which have been in the paper was an MP
Askin to see there faces when talking to them, the other was when muslim teachers were being told to take them off when teaching. And they made massive fuss.

No1 It's scary for children isn't it, they dont like not being able to see whats behind the mask. Same reason masks an clowns are scary.

No2 Facial and body expression is an incredibly important tool of communication.

No3 To fight political correctness with polictical correctness what if there is a death person who mouth reads?

No4 One of the schools was a church of england school the other a catholic school for fucks sake.

1. Not all children fear clowns.

No but alot do, It's a fuckin fact that children like to see the face of someone. It's fuckin creepy for me to see these human shaped people completly covered up

2. Which is why nobody communicates over the phone or e-mail. In fact, I demand you get the fuck off the internet and fly (watch out for them there Moooz-lims; they'll blow yer ass the fuck up!) to Saint Paul, Minnesota, United States of America to talk to me face-to-face.

I'd fuckin Twat you . if you were talkin to me like that face-to-face.
Of course you can communicate over phone an shit but theres mis understandings, Facial and body expression is very important in communication especially when teachin young children.

3. It's not political correctness, it's her freedom to follow her religion (just like providing accommodations for a deaf student isn't political correctness... goddamn, why is making something easier for someone, giving other people their rights, and shit like that always "political correctness?" Jesus fuckin' Christ, lay off the buzz words, or at least use them right!) . I'm not 100% sure, but wouldn't the deaf person be in a special education class?

It's also the childrens right to get givin a proper education and its hard if they cant have proper communication with the teacher. Teachers needs to connect to there pupils and they cant if she's got a fuckin bed sheet over her.

4. So what? They hired Muslim teachers, I'm sure knowing full well that they are Muslim (it's not like it's hard to miss or anything). Can I say that the nuns in the Catholic school can't wear their habits because of some stupid reason? No. Why, exactly, is the fact that two schools are religious schools pertinent?

Thats why they got turned down the job because they refused to take of there stuff.
Teachers in catholic schools don't wear there things. But they dont cover the face. It's not the Muslim dress it's the covered face which is the real problem.

Here's the thing: people have the right to freedom of religion as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of others or otherwise cause harm. How does a Muslim woman wearing her viel infringe upon the rights of others or otherwise cause harm?

It makes others uncomfortable. I know it shoudlnt but it does. Also when things like this happen you get hundreds of muslims taking to violent protests and riots.

At 12/10/06 11:26 AM, lapis wrote:

At 12/10/06 06:36 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Does this have something to do with your keen knowledge of different breeds of fine Marijuana, prostitutes, or coffee?

Something like that. I will now use it to diss you. Your knowledge of different breeds of weed and prostitutes is only mediocre, fool.

Pfft, I bet I have a better knowledge of fine wines. The Netherlands has shitty wine, thats probably why everyone there just smokes a spliff after dinner (and before) instead of drinking a glass of wine like most Europeans do.

At 12/10/06 07:45 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 12/10/06 11:26 AM, lapis wrote:

At 12/10/06 06:36 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Does this have something to do with your keen knowledge of different breeds of fine Marijuana, prostitutes, or coffee?

Something like that. I will now use it to diss you. Your knowledge of different breeds of weed and prostitutes is only mediocre, fool.

Pfft, I bet I have a better knowledge of fine wines. The Netherlands has shitty wine, thats probably why everyone there just smokes a spliff after dinner (and before) instead of drinking a glass of wine like most Europeans do.

Not all Europeans. British, Irish, Germans and netherlands all drink far more beer than wine.
Australia probably does the best wine these days though.

At 12/10/06 07:45 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Pfft, I bet I have a better knowledge of fine wines. The Netherlands has shitty wine, thats probably why everyone there just smokes a spliff after dinner (and before) instead of drinking a glass of wine like most Europeans do.

I've heard that the best wine is the italian one, what do you think?

At 12/10/06 07:45 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: The Netherlands has shitty wine,

Meh, are you sure you've ever even tasted genuine Dutch wine? Most wine is imported, my dad almost always drinks Argentinian or South African wine, for example. There's an official winemaker's guild but most of the members are hobbyists and don't grow grapes for commerical purposes. I have no idea what it tastes like but beer (or weed, although I pretty much stopped smoking about a year ago) beats wine any day of the week anyway. Heineken, muthafucka.

At 12/10/06 11:12 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 12/10/06 07:45 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Pfft, I bet I have a better knowledge of fine wines. The Netherlands has shitty wine, thats probably why everyone there just smokes a spliff after dinner (and before) instead of drinking a glass of wine like most Europeans do.

I've heard that the best wine is the italian one, what do you think?

Too be honest.. and this may sound weird. I think Chile has the best wine in the world. My girlfriend orders that shit by the case because I'm not 21 yet. Primer Paso from Chile is what we get and its the bomb. But I also like Italian wine my favorite is super tuscan red, so good.

At 12/11/06 06:57 AM, lapis wrote:

At 12/10/06 07:45 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: The Netherlands has shitty wine,

Meh, are you sure you've ever even tasted genuine Dutch wine? Most wine is imported, my dad almost always drinks Argentinian or South African wine, for example. There's an official winemaker's guild but most of the members are hobbyists and don't grow grapes for commerical purposes.

I've been to Holland 3 times, specifically Amsterdam twice. I had true Dutch wine and it was crap, the only good kind I remember was called De Lini, it was a Pinot.

... I have no idea what it tastes like but beer (or weed, although I pretty much stopped smoking about a year ago) beats wine any day of the week anyway. Heineken, muthafucka.

I hate Heineken, its for women. I don't really get any imported shit here, I mostly drink Samuel Adams, but I get a good German stout or ale every once in a while.

But anyway, beer in your country is too fucking expensive, and the only American brand beer you had was crap actually brewed in Canada. I was on a 400 Euro budget for a week and I ended up spending 100 on bud, 100 on beer, and I starved for a few days because my hotel was 100 a night and we split it between 3 people.

And it wasn't even worth it because our weed got jacked. Now that I don't smoke weed anymore I don't plan on going to your country ever again, no offense.

At 12/11/06 07:30 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: I hate Heineken, its for women.

Haha, and wine isn't? My dad drinks red wine because he had a heart attack due to high cholesterol levels in his blood and he read somewhere that it fights cholesterol but apart from him, only my aunts prefer wine over beer in my family.

But anyway, beer in your country is too fucking expensive,

Depends on the brand, cans of Amstel and Grolsch beer are pretty decent and not too expensive. Heh, but at least we don't have to wait until we're 21 to legally buy it.

And it wasn't even worth it because our weed got jacked.

LOL! Always watch your weed, I guess.

Now that I don't smoke weed anymore I don't plan on going to your country ever again, no offense.

None taken. It's not like I'm struck with grief or anything.

At 12/10/06 01:04 AM, Kasualty wrote: You just wait and see.

very pretty

Listen to your selves with your larger an your wine, your both women.

At 12/11/06 07:30 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Too be honest.. and this may sound weird. I think Chile has the best wine in the world.

You're tearing my Argentinian pride apart :(

At 12/11/06 12:49 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 12/11/06 07:30 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Too be honest.. and this may sound weird. I think Chile has the best wine in the world.

You're tearing my Argentinian pride apart :(

That's because he's my alt.

OR IS HE?????

At 12/11/06 01:10 PM, Empanado wrote: That's because he's my alt.

OR IS HE?????

I'm not.

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>. >

At 12/11/06 01:17 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 12/11/06 01:10 PM, Empanado wrote: That's because he's my alt.

OR IS HE?????

I'm not.

< .<
>. >

Not you, the other guy. Or maybe you're his alt. Or I'm his alt.

At 12/11/06 01:28 PM, Empanado wrote: Not you, the other guy. Or maybe you're his alt. Or I'm his alt.

Conspiring against me, huh? We'll have to solve it the old Latin American's way. Like an Argentinian dictator said: "First, we'll kill the guilty ones, then their sympathizers, and finally, the indifferents". Therefore, I propose banning every single user in the BBS.

At 12/11/06 02:01 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 12/11/06 01:28 PM, Empanado wrote: Not you, the other guy. Or maybe you're his alt. Or I'm his alt.

Conspiring against me, huh? We'll have to solve it the old Latin American's way. Like an Argentinian dictator said: "First, we'll kill the guilty ones, then their sympathizers, and finally, the indifferents". Therefore, I propose banning every single user in the BBS.

I can see what you're getting at. But let's look at the past, Argentinian boy. We used to be standing at the edge of the abyss. Today, we can safely say that we've given one step forward.

dictator quotes ++

At 12/11/06 08:37 AM, cold-as-hell wrote:
very pretty

you're pretty

At 12/11/06 07:47 AM, lapis wrote:

At 12/11/06 07:30 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: I hate Heineken, its for women.

Haha, and wine isn't? My dad drinks red wine because he had a heart attack due to high cholesterol levels in his blood and he read somewhere that it fights cholesterol but apart from him, only my aunts prefer wine over beer in my family.

I didn't say beer was for women. I said Heineken is. I usually prefer beer over wine as well, but I drink wine instead of beer for difference reasons.

The experience of wine tasting isn't only about getting drunk even though that is a pleasant bonus.

But anyway, beer in your country is too fucking expensive,

Depends on the brand, cans of Amstel and Grolsch beer are pretty decent and not too expensive. Heh, but at least we don't have to wait until we're 21 to legally buy it.

At your freaking coffeeshops in Amsterdam a simple Coors Light was 5 Euro due to your ridiculously high taxes and greedy shopkeepers. Thats about $8.50 US dollars. I could almost get an 18-pack for that price here. Plus, it wasn't even real Coors Light, it was the Canadian-made shit that tastes all chemically. Then, I tried some local brew and it was only slightly less expensive yet also tasted like crap.

Besides, the legal age to buy alcohol doesn't bother me at all. My girlfriend lives with me and does the grocery shopping and shes 22 so its all good for me.

And it wasn't even worth it because our weed got jacked.

LOL! Always watch your weed, I guess.

Pfft, I thought the Dutch were supposed to be hospitable. Guess not. Yeah its true, almost all of you speak English, and yeah you're nicer to Americans than the French are, but to steal weed straight out of someones backpack is just plain cold. And we know it was a native Dutch kid who did it, it wasn't another tourist. So don't use the excuse that its only the foreigners that cause the problems.

Now that I don't smoke weed anymore I don't plan on going to your country ever again, no offense.

None taken. It's not like I'm struck with grief or anything.

Well you should be, American tourists contribute a huge portion of your city's economy.

At 12/9/06 12:56 PM, EternalRabbit wrote: they've pretty much taken over most of europe... i mean common... where can you go in say, france, without seeing them... or in the uk without seeing sikhs? it's changed like crazy and they wanna do away with all the original stuff and change everything to islam and put up their mosques...

It's part of their religon to do that, intentional or otherwise, the koran is almost formatted in a way that describes how a group of people could slowly take over another country. First of all, it's beleived to be a good thing for muslims to have as many childeren as possible, the more muslims in a country, the more influential muslims become (it's just natural). secondly, and similarly to christianity, muslims are taught to spread their religon and try and get others to convert.

I can understand how a leader of a european country might want to be fair and try and balance it out between europeans and the growing muslim countries, and at the same time, be afriad to do so due to the growing threat of islamic extremism and genocide in the middle east. it's kind of a double edged sword, its hard to tell whether you can trust them, even when you really want to trust them because you dont want to look like a rasist.