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Html Help! 2006-12-04 17:49:59 Reply

Ok, no i'm notr a noob, I know your basic HTML by heart actually, but me and my friends are designing a site, and so far i've been the one to do most of the porogramming and flash work, but I just want some programming skills. What i'm really asking is, how do I do all that fancy stuff? I have some code done (I wrote it by heart mind you)

<BODY TEXT= "white">
<TABLE ALIGN="center" BGCOLOR="black"><TR><TD>

<IMG SRC="waffle_logo.png">

</TR></TD>
<BR>

<TR><TD>HELLO! :)</TR></TD>
<TR><TD>THIS IS OUR WEB SITE!!!</TR></TD>

</TABLE>

What can I do to make this site shine with that basic layout plan? (PS our site name is Atomic Waffle)

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 17:51:39 Reply

PSS: The table that says "HELLO :)" wil be like the navigation bar, and the table that says "THIS IS OUR WEBSITE" is for the content.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 17:52:11 Reply

What fancy stuff? Some examples would help.

All I can say is make sure you know HTML fluently as you're going to need HTML for anything you do on the web...

If you want to make a site look nicer, images help, so just my making some graphics in a program like Photoshop can make a site look nicer...


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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 17:55:50 Reply

You could use a template.

www.freetemplates4all.com

But if you want to hand code it. Head down to www.w3schools.com to read up about html

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 18:04:41 Reply

Well, see for the one guy who wanted an example, I basicly want to make it nice, like not so homemade-ish you know how new grounds looks, i sorta want that but different, and also, i do have images, what do you think the <IMG SRC=""> code is for? I asked for HTML here people....

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 18:08:50 Reply

At 12/4/06 06:04 PM, Scottspictures wrote: Well, see for the one guy who wanted an example, I basicly want to make it nice, like not so homemade-ish you know how new grounds looks, i sorta want that but different, and also, i do have images, what do you think the <IMG SRC=""> code is for? I asked for HTML here people....

OK, I don't think you really understand. There's no HTML "code" that is going to make your site look "shiny" or "nice". That's called web design. You need to use HTML (which I don't think you no fluently, so head over to W3Schools) to layout images and content on your site. If you don't want to learn how to design sites, then a template would be better for you. Or if you'd rather use a visual program, Dreamweaver is pretty good for creating templates/layouts.


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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 18:09:09 Reply

At 12/4/06 06:04 PM, Scottspictures wrote: Well, see for the one guy who wanted an example, I basicly want to make it nice, like not so homemade-ish you know how new grounds looks, i sorta want that but different, and also, i do have images, what do you think the <IMG SRC=""> code is for? I asked for HTML here people....

HTML is just mark-up, it alone cannot create a layout for you. You can use CSS to create a basic layout, but if you want a design similar to that of Newgrounds you need to create the images in photoshop/alternative graphics paackage. If you view the source of NG, you will see that the layout is made up of a series of images.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 18:17:57 Reply

there the last post is what i wanted, CSS, i know what it is but have no idea how to program it, thats what I want to be learning. And secound of thats also what i mean, i ment a straight forward, and soild web layout to put stuff into it, i'll put the images into it later. And yes I do sir know HTML, I have a site... a not very good one, or noticed one, but a site none the less check it out and see who knows HTML or not. Scotts Pictures And by the way, I wrote that Link code by hand.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 18:30:24 Reply

At 12/4/06 06:17 PM, Scottspictures wrote: there the last post is what i wanted, CSS, i know what it is but have no idea how to program it, thats what I want to be learning.

Go to http://www.w3schools.com and learn CSS then. Oh and anyone can write a "link code" to put on a site.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 18:33:23 Reply

At 12/4/06 06:30 PM, Jessii wrote:
At 12/4/06 06:17 PM, Scottspictures wrote: there the last post is what i wanted, CSS, i know what it is but have no idea how to program it, thats what I want to be learning.
Go to http://www.w3schools.com and learn CSS then. Oh and anyone can write a "link code" to put on a site.

Yeah I know. I just was saying I ddin't have to push any buttons. But you guys still must not get what I'm coming at. I want just the down and basic HTML to make the site look nice with tables and great stuff like that, Yes i'll add images, yes I'll add CSS, just please can someone tell me how to make the original code I posted into a site layout for me to put up all that jazz you keep shoving down my throat? :(

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 18:34:29 Reply

At 12/4/06 06:17 PM, Scottspictures wrote: And by the way, I wrote that Link code by hand.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 18:36:15 Reply

At 12/4/06 06:33 PM, Scottspictures wrote: Yeah I know. I just was saying I ddin't have to push any buttons. But you guys still must not get what I'm coming at. I want just the down and basic HTML to make the site look nice with tables and great stuff like that, Yes i'll add images, yes I'll add CSS, just please can someone tell me how to make the original code I posted into a site layout for me to put up all that jazz you keep shoving down my throat? :(

It's because you won't listen to us, you can't just gives us the HTML for a table, a bit of text and an image and expect us to make a layout for you.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 18:50:44 Reply

Here You Go. You said your good with html so you should have no prob editing this. Its a VERY basic layout

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="content-type">
<title></title>
</head>
<body>
<center>
<table style="text-align: left; width: 789px; height: 32px;"
border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2">
<big></big><tbody>
<big></big><tr>
<big></big><td
style="font-weight: bold; font-family: Courier;"
align="undefined" valign="undefined"><big><big>Logo
Image Here or what ever here</big></big></td>
<big></big></tr>
<big></big>
</tbody><big></big>
</table>
<big style="font-family: Arial Black; font-weight: bold;">Marquee
Code Here (If you Want)</big><br>
<table
style="text-align: left; margin-left: 22px; height: 32px; width: 785px;"
border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="width: 108px; font-family: Arial;"
align="undefined" valign="undefined">Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
Link<br>
</td>
<td style="width: 657px; font-family: Arial;"
align="undefined" valign="undefined">News System
Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here<br>
News System Include Function Here</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<big style="font-weight: bold; font-family: Arial Black;">Marquee
Here Too (if you want)</big><br>
<table style="text-align: left; width: 738px; height: 52px;"
border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="font-family: Arial;" align="undefined"
valign="undefined">Affiliate 1</td>
<td style="font-family: Arial;" align="undefined"
valign="undefined">Affiliate 1</td>
<td style="font-family: Arial;" align="undefined"
valign="undefined">Affiliate 1</td>
<td style="font-family: Arial;" align="undefined"
valign="undefined">Affiliate 1</td>
<td style="font-family: Arial;" align="undefined"
valign="undefined">Affiliate 1</td>
<td style="font-family: Arial;" align="undefined"
valign="undefined">Affiliate 1</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
Copyright of Scots Images<br>
</center>
</body>
</html>

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 18:53:23 Reply

At 12/4/06 06:50 PM, notprogram wrote: Here You Go. You said your good with html so you should have no prob editing this. Its a VERY basic layout

You can't be serious! That is the WORST "layout" I've ever seen.

To the author, just freakin go to http://www.w3schools.com AND LEARN already.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 19:00:43 Reply

At 12/4/06 06:53 PM, Jessii wrote:
At 12/4/06 06:50 PM, notprogram wrote: Here You Go. You said your good with html so you should have no prob editing this. Its a VERY basic layout
You can't be serious! That is the WORST "layout" I've ever seen.

Hehe, I know, He said he wanted a layout. So I gave him a really crappy layout with horrible tables. and bad fonts. Actually the arial black bolded looked kind of nice. =P

To the author, just freakin go to http://www.w3schools.com AND LEARN already.

Agreed.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 19:09:04 Reply

Screw tables!

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 19:39:09 Reply

At 12/4/06 07:09 PM, Gutya wrote: Screw tables!

Yeah, and screw the <big> tags. I don't think I've ever seen anyone use those before lol.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 19:46:38 Reply

Well if anyone is still watching this, yes That will help, and really? What is a <big> tag? I've never seen one of those in my life. And again, i can edit it all accordingly to waht I need/want so thanks, I kinda like it personally... and I know HTML I don't need to learn anything,.. i already did that...

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 19:49:45 Reply

and by the way, that is the worst layout i've ever seen... jeeze and really horrible fonts! like i cant read HTML, you people must think i'm computer illiterat or something, i'll be able to fix it though, and why with all the boarders on the tables man? ew... and i get the whole spelling my name wrong and calling images.. ha ha, very funny....

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 19:54:21 Reply

You keep trying to reassure us that you know HTML fluently, yet no one has said you don't know HTML...

And you posted saying you liked the layout, then straight after saying you didn't. I smell insanity.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 19:58:14 Reply

well i looked at the layout and liked it but then went back to the code and turned out i found some errors, but they where fixed and, come on, trust i at least know HTML... please believe me... oh and yes, my doctar says i'm a little crazy... maybe... i have an imaginary friend, so what...

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-04 21:06:12 Reply

go learn some freaking CSS or your website will be stuck in the year 2000 for ever >=(


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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-05 11:30:49 Reply

At 12/4/06 07:39 PM, Jessii wrote:
At 12/4/06 07:09 PM, Gutya wrote: Screw tables!
Yeah, and screw the <big> tags. I don't think I've ever seen anyone use those before lol.

<big> is still valid xhtml. ;-)

So is the <small> tag.


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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-05 11:44:22 Reply

If you are so good at html you should know not to write your tags in capital letters.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-05 12:47:28 Reply

At 12/5/06 11:30 AM, different wrote: <big> is still valid xhtml. ;-)

So is the <small> tag.

Really? I looked it up on w3schools last night and was surprised. I just would never use it unless I was doing font-size: big; in my css but even then I'd never use it.

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Response to Html Help! 2006-12-05 14:53:17 Reply

Woah this thread is going round in circles.

Scottspictures if you know HTML so well, then you should know how to make at least a basic looking layout using tables at least. (Did I just say use tables?) CSS is better to use for layouts, and you could pick the basics up pretty quickly. Stop telling us you know HTML dammit.

If you have a propper question, then feel free to ask it, but it's hard for people to help you at the moment. Starting you topic with "Ok, no i'm notr a noob" is only going to make people think you are. Saying "how do I do all that fancy stuff?" doesn't really give people a clear idea of how to help you.

People have recommended you go to W3Schools and learn CSS, which is a very good idea, you'll pick up lots of "fancy stuff" and "jazz" and it's worth while taking the time to read though both the CSS and HTML sections of their website.

If you have a real question, or if theres something specific you need help with, that people can actually help you with, then feel free to PM me or ask one of the other people. Thanks.


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