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This thread reminds me of the X-men 3 movie. The characters thought that they should cure their "X-gene" so they would be liked again. Some of the characters thought there was nothing wrong with them. Hehe that's just like this thread.

Your sexist and close-minded! How can anyone even think like that?!

At 12/23/06 03:54 AM, stafffighter wrote:

Actually it's been noted that homosexuality tends to occure in the younger sons of families with many sons. The possibility that this suggests is that homosexuality might be a natural occurance of population control. That would make it make it both natural and nessesary.

Sounds pretty interesting. Do you have a source for that to read?

why doesnt everyone who hates gays get a gun and shoot a gay person in the street. Maybe that way the rest of the world can see what a horrible cunt you are.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH GAYS!!

At 12/23/06 02:58 PM, qygibo wrote:

At 12/23/06 03:54 AM, stafffighter wrote:

Actually it's been noted that homosexuality tends to occure in the younger sons of families with many sons. The possibility that this suggests is that homosexuality might be a natural occurance of population control. That would make it make it both natural and nessesary.

Sounds pretty interesting. Do you have a source for that to read?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi ?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&lis t_uids=9686486&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum

Somewhat relevant.

Doesn't something have to be a disease or a problem to warrant a cure?

At 12/23/06 07:04 PM, made-4-sex wrote: why doesnt everyone who hates gays get a gun and shoot a gay person in the street. Maybe that way the rest of the world can see what a horrible cunt you are.

I don't like that idea.

I don't want to be shot!

At 12/23/06 06:16 AM, fli wrote:

At 12/23/06 03:36 AM, troubles1 wrote:

But still, I do hope that your children aren't gay, or that if they are that you mustar up all your love. Because your views on homosexuality, as I've read in the past, are ignorant, mean-spirited, and cruel.

It's not the gays that need to change,
It is you--

I Will respond to you because unlike the others who think name calling makes them intelligent, You are just a person who has ideals and believes in them and I respect that.

First I do not hate Gay people, in fact I have friends who are gay, what they do in the bedroom in none of my business, and as long as they don't flaunt it in front of me everything is cool.
I am religious so my views are based on that , and being a Cristian I know only GOD has the right to judge a person. now with that out of the way.

I love my children no matter what, when I was writing the beginning of the topic I was hoping people would understand what I meant . I will try and simplify it.
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this is all hypothetical.
1.if you believe in abortion then you must believe that the child is not a person until birth otherwise it would be murder, I have shown that science is currently looking for behavior gens, and the gay gene is one of them...

so if they isolate that gene they could remove it before birth, so to anyone who says how do you know they want it to be removed? Well that does not matter because in your eyes they are not even a person or capable of making decisions.

once a child is Born such as mine I would think it would be a atrocity to change the genetic makeup. SO if my child is GAY and I hope not, but there is nothing I should be allowed to do. EXCEPT Love them..

And comparing me to Hitler is completely messed up, I don't want you to Die because you are GAY. There is a good chance we could be friends. if science does come up with a way to single out this gene I don't think you should be forced into some mad science experiment to change you.

But before birth is another story we currently have and do procedures that allow a parents to choose a childes sex, why not allow them to insure that there child is heterosexual? It would make the child's life a lot easier, plus there is the Grandchildren issue.

weather you like it or not this is the wave of the future, we will cure many diseases like sickle cell.
when I compare homosexuality to a being a disease I mean it as it is not a natural function, it serves no purpose. it is abnormal, as I have said Gay people even say do you think we would want to be Born this way.

to the person who called me a twerp, I am laughing at your ignorance, your argument is that because gay people have been around for a very long time makes it right, seriously, guess what so has leprosy. how about having some input , you need some ideals to believe in and a reason for believing in it .
otherwise you are simply just following other people without knowing why.

here read this this is written by a gay man, it is not some hate site but I think you will get the idea of what it is I was trying to get people to talk about.link

Last I hope I did not offend anyone because they are gay, Unless you are one of the people that resorted to name calling and did not read the start of this topic. If you are one of those people, then PM me and I will send you a link to hooked on phonics, and one on being a hypocrite, you want to be treated with respect and not be judged or have bigoted remarks , yet you called me names and did nothing to help or prove your views.

Troubles, you are a respectable man in my eyes right now...
I respect your opinion and although I don't accept them, you were able to eloquently put them in a way that didn't offend me directly (unlike other people in the past.)

Knowing how to speak to people a difficult subject in a way that isn't offensive is truly a skill. It's so funny how I used to think you're a troll.

In any case, I'm glad that we were able to communicate our connection of fatherhood and talk about our beliefs.

Okay, Chao darling,
maybe you should come over the lounge once in a while?

At 12/24/06 01:04 AM, troubles1 wrote: this is all hypothetical.
1.if you believe in abortion then you must believe that the child is not a person until birth otherwise it would be murder, I have shown that science is currently looking for behavior gens, and the gay gene is one of them...

You bring up a good point. You can't be for abortion and then be agianst genetic mutation on babies.

so if they isolate that gene they could remove it before birth, so to anyone who says how do you know they want it to be removed? Well that does not matter because in your eyes they are not even a person or capable of making decisions.

But they wouldn't want to remove it because that would mean that the child when it was born, would be asextual for the rest of its life.

But before birth is another story we currently have and do procedures that allow a parents to choose a childes sex, why not allow them to insure that there child is heterosexual? It would make the child's life a lot easier, plus there is the Grandchildren issue.

A mother can choose what sex their baby will be?!?

weather you like it or not this is the wave of the future, we will cure many diseases like sickle cell.
when I compare homosexuality to a being a disease I mean it as it is not a natural function, it serves no purpose. it is abnormal, as I have said Gay people even say do you think we would want to be Born this way.

That's another good point. If we can figure out a way to controll a persons sextuallity, than maybe we can use this tecnology to prevent deseases such as albinism and type one deibetes.

Last I hope I did not offend anyone because they are gay, Unless you are one of the people that resorted to name calling and did not read the start of this topic. If you are one of those people, then PM me and I will send you a link to hooked on phonics, and one on being a hypocrite, you want to be treated with respect and not be judged or have bigoted remarks , yet you called me names and did nothing to help or prove your views.

Yeah, it seemed that the people who were most offended resorted to trying to ofend you, instead of making a valed argument. I see hypocricy in this.

Because a lot of the points that you are making are very resonable and believable and even though I may not agree with you, I can take those points into consideration.

Unlike some people.

And to the people who got really angry resorted to name calling, please leave and go back to General. If I'm able to calmly debate this topic (me being a lesbien), then you people should be able to as well.

I think even if we can cure gay people, we shouldn't.

What we should do is accept and appreciate the fact that they're picking up kids that need to be adopted, and they're not pumping any new kids into the system. It helps to approach equilibrium.

If anything, we should engineer a few more gay people so as to balance things more evenly.

The whole problem is the entire intolerance to gay people. The republican party has seemed to fight to make sure that gays do not have any rights. Personally, I think that is incredibly wrong. Why should one have to sacrifice his rights for something he was born as. It is just the same as the white/black discrimination, except there is no visual warning.

There is no way for us to see which out of a group of people are being deprived of their rights, and unless you know the person personally, you would never know the oppression they are facing.

I'm not suggesting that we invent some way to diferentiate between heterosexuals and homosexuals. It's just that there should be no difference at all whether or not the person you are marrying is of the same sex as you. George W. Bush claims that the reason he is against gay marriage is because in the bible, it says marriage is between a man and a women. The problem with that statement is the basis of the U.S.A.'s foundations. Separation of church and state. Everyone should be equal.

</general rant on homosexuality>

<On topic discusssion>

The whole problem with this research is that it views homosexuality as a sort of disease. I'm sure there is some genetic difference between a homosexual and a hetereosexual, but that's not the question. The question is whether or not it matters whether someone is homo, or hetereo.

I think that if the "gay" gene is discovered, it would only lead to problems. As you have stated, it could lead to an increase in abortions and such. Not only that, but if the child was born into a highly religious family the parent may try to force the child into being strait. Telling him from a young age about how homosexuality is bad, or something like that. This could lead to some really fucked up kids.

I think this study should be stopped. Use the money to fight terrorism or impeach Bush or something.

At 12/24/06 04:38 PM, Twerpo wrote: The whole problem with this research is that it views homosexuality as a sort of disease. I'm sure there is some genetic difference between a homosexual and a hetereosexual, but that's not the question. The question is whether or not it matters whether someone is homo, or hetereo.

There's also the almost inevadable side effects that would occure wiht that sort of genetic mutation.

I think that if the "gay" gene is discovered, it would only lead to problems. As you have stated, it could lead to an increase in abortions and such. Not only that, but if the child was born into a highly religious family the parent may try to force the child into being strait. Telling him from a young age about how homosexuality is bad, or something like that. This could lead to some really fucked up kids.

And then if the parents actually went through with the process, the baby could be born asextual, with pysical mutations, it could be born as both a man and a woman(?????), and so much more.

But agian this is all just hypothetical.

I think this study should be stopped. Use the money to fight terrorism or impeach Bush or something.

Well, not stopped, just refocused. Because you could use this same science to prevent deseases such as type one diabetes, albinism, mental disorders, low/high blood pressure, high colesteral, down syndrome, learning disabilaties, mental imparements, ec cetera.

So, how about not using this science on useless things and use it to cure these diseases, eh?

I find it funny how us men HATE gay men, but love gay woman. Isnt that stange. When I hear a woman say shes a lesbian I get turned on. How ever odd because shes not going to be interested in me.

Must experiment, TO THE NIGHT CLUBS!

I didn't choose to be gay but fukk changin...i luv pussi!!!

At 12/24/06 07:46 PM, leelee974 wrote: I didn't choose to be gay but fukk changin...i luv pussi!!!

Dont do that. im arroused.

At 12/24/06 06:46 PM, made-4-sex wrote: I find it funny how us men HATE gay men, but love gay woman. Isnt that stange. When I hear a woman say shes a lesbian I get turned on. How ever odd because shes not going to be interested in me.

Because you're a man and you find two women making out attractive?

At 12/24/06 06:46 PM, made-4-sex wrote: I find it funny how us men HATE gay men, but love gay woman. Isnt that stange. When I hear a woman say shes a lesbian I get turned on. How ever odd because shes not going to be interested in me.

I get what you mean. If a man is sexually arroused by a gay woman then theres NO chance he is going to get her. Maybe its knowing this that makes it attractive.

I got a vid that I took on my phone where 2 hotties were giving each other tongue. Being the gentlemen I

At 12/24/06 03:23 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

At 12/24/06 01:04 AM, troubles1 wrote:

But they wouldn't want to remove it because that would mean that the child when it was born, would be asexual for the rest of its life.
From what I understand Asexual is like with worms who are neither male or female, so isolating a certain behavior gene would just take away that particular type of urge or behavior.

When I was deciding what and how to write this topic I read a article that used a comparison in behavior, now I am in no way saying that homosexuals are like rapists, but the example was in the behavior, if there are are ways to isolate certain behaviors, such as a person's desire to rape or a Persons attraction to children that causes them to molest, then we take that away they would be better off,and so would society.

so I think that you would still be you, with the exception of there attraction to one particular action or desire. But I am no scientist and therefor can only speculate on what I think they could accomplish and what they are really trying to do.

A mother can choose what sex their baby will be?!?
YES I did a quick search and found this, and altho it is still in early stages and very expensive, they can. My cousin wants a boy so bad he has three daughters witch he loves very much but he said he is going to try again for a boy So I think this is something that could be a very good thing in the future. .

plus in places like China were overpopulation is a problem and they are limited to one child and many terrible things happen to the Girl babies because of them not being wanted, this could also be helpful, in stopping atrocity's like the murders of the girl babies.

Yeah, it seemed that the people who were most offended resorted to trying to offend you, instead of making a valid argument. I see hypocricy in this.
Thanks, altho in the past I have tried to get arise out of people, I am truly trying to change as a person, And I appreciate people like you , and Fli understanding and even though our ideas are different, Giving me the benefit of the doubt that I mean no disrespect , and not trying to insult any person, for the way they live there life.

Because a lot of the points that you are making are very resonable and believable and even though I may not agree with you, I can take those points into consideration.

again thanks for not being one of the people who just insult instead of using reason when debating a subject that can be very touchy. you, and Fli set good examples of how a person on the politics forum should go about debating there points..
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At 12/26/06 04:51 PM, troubles1 wrote: When I was deciding what and how to write this topic I read a article that used a comparison in behavior, now I am in no way saying that homosexuals are like rapists, but the example was in the behavior, if there are are ways to isolate certain behaviors, such as a person's desire to rape or a Persons attraction to children that causes them to molest, then we take that away they would be better off,and so would society.

Really? Well, if they did develup this tecnology, than they should probibly use it to fix the raping problem before curing gay people. :)

But seriously, I can see how this is plausible and could be used in more ways than to cure gay people. I think they really should investigate more into this, just refocus their prioreties. Imagine if you could know and fix it if your baby was going to be albino or diabetic. (or gay, whatever. :) )

again thanks for not being one of the people who just insult instead of using reason when debating a subject that can be very touchy. you, and Fli set good examples of how a person on the politics forum should go about debating there points..

Yeah, I try to be as calm and level headed as posible because you can actually make a better point if you stay calm, instead of losing it. Those people who just used insolts as an argument, only showed their ignorance. They really get upset with touchy subjects but sometimes it's the touchy subjects that are most important to address.

At 12/26/06 10:42 AM, cold-as-hell wrote: didnt finish sentence.

We got to the pub and there were two hotties were giving each other tongue. Being the gentlemen I am all I did was cheer them on and take a video. Fucking sweet

At 12/27/06 05:24 PM, Xyklon-B wrote: Bullshit!

Faggots don't have a disease. Faggots are the disease.

The only disease is you! And like all other diseases you must be killed.

gay people can only be "cured" on a case by case basis, and they can't be converted unless they want to make the change.

Also, it's difficult to make a gay person completly straight. at best you could probably convince them that women are great to fuck as well (bisexual)

At 12/27/06 05:42 PM, cold-as-hell wrote: The only disease is you! And like all other diseases you must be killed.

Don't respond to him, just wait until a moderator sees some of his posts, he'll get banned, (again probably). Society is past crap like him, we've moved on past people who maintain primitive weaknesses like hate. You're just giving him something to get off on.

At 12/27/06 06:51 PM, Sigma-Lambda wrote: Don't respond to him, just wait until a moderator sees some of his posts, he'll get banned, (again probably). Society is past crap like him, we've moved on past people who maintain primitive weaknesses like hate. You're just giving him something to get off on.

Sometimes I wish that were true.

At 12/27/06 05:24 PM, Xyklon-B wrote: Bullshit!

Faggots don't have a disease. Faggots are the disease.

You're not funny. Please leave.

At 11/28/06 03:31 PM, Begoner wrote: Then we can also cure blacks of their disorder while we're at it. Maybe we can cure everybody who is not a perfect replica of a typical white Christian of their "defects."

YES!!! BEST COMEBACK EVER!! Oh my God! ZING!!!

Seriuosly though, I didn't expect that at all! Black disorder, hahahahaha! That's going in the sig if I can fit it in there.

Why do you think we need to get rid of people who are diffrent?

I never knew what a real ass was, until this very moment.

At 12/27/06 05:48 PM, Xyklon-B wrote:

At 12/27/06 05:42 PM, cold-as-hell wrote:

At 12/27/06 05:24 PM, Xyklon-B wrote: Bullshit!

Faggots don't have a disease. Faggots are the disease.

The only disease is you! And like all other diseases you must be killed.

So what makes you so special?

You know, in situations like this... I'm glad that I'm really good friends with the mods, several of whom I've known before they were mods... one of them who is a lesbian... many of them who've known that I'm a "faggot"... many of whom are protective of me...

Cause then I can just casually drop your name and this link to them nonchalantly in one of our conversations--

otherwise,
this would be taddletelling...