History repeats itself

[ben-e]

After reading a recent post comparing amarican tactics to thos of the nazis, it got me thinking. Apon seeing a picture of stalin in my social text book I realized the striking ÿsimilarities between the invation of the USSR and Iraq. Sadam has been turning his peopls minds from the fact that he has gassed them and slaughtered them to the idea of fighting the invader of the mother land. Likely Stalin also averted attention from his purges and killing. The nazis new idea of blitzkreig was quite comparable to the invation of Iraq. The german invation of the USSR was a mass rush of tanks speeding to the capital bypassing russian ÿresistance for the sake of time. These bypassed forces then turned on supply lines attacking from behind. Sound ÿfamiliar? the last comparison that is sticking out in my mind is the idea of the US that the Iraqi's would welcome this liberator and bringer of freedom from the Sadam ÿregime. so far there have been a few cases but nothing comparable to what was expected. Again Hitlar expected the ÿoppressed Russians to throw them ÿselves at his feet and welcom his men with open arms. not so, in both cases men have taken up arms and banned together to fight the "common" enemy.

Now this must be said. I AM IN NO WAY COMPARING HITLER AND BUSH. I am just pointing out the fact that both leaders have similar strategies. I am also not saying that the US will be forced out of Iraq in a long drawn out war. The ratios are quite diferent amaricans in Iraq out number Iraqi's 10-1 and victory is obviously on the Amarican side.

[Der-Ubermensch]

At 4/3/03 12:02 AM, swager wrote:

Now this must be said. I AM IN NO WAY COMPARING HITLER AND BUSH. I am just pointing out the fact that both leaders have similar strategies. I am also not saying that the US will be forced out of Iraq in a long drawn out war. The ratios are quite diferent amaricans in Iraq out number Iraqi's 10-1 and victory is obviously on the Amarican side.

Please don't place Bush on the same level as a tactician like Adolf Hitler...

[Commander-K25]

History of course repeats itself because of recurring patterns caused by basic archetypes within the human psyche.

[ben-e]

I see its only a matter of time then right.

[DarkCyrstal]

Yea, but Iraq is nothing like Russia. Russia is so big it could devour army troops. It's winters are deadly and harsh. Iraq has hot summers , but not compariable to Russia's wicked winters. Besides, US is so technically advanced, much farther than Iraq, so i don't think that well ahve this problem.

[TheShrike]

Interesting idea, but not nearly enough in common for me.
Not that I don't like comparing Bush to Hitler whenever possible (I do), but there are some problems here.

For example, the German assualt upon Russia was doomed to failure.

I doubt we're doomed in Iraq.

[DarkCyrstal]

At 4/3/03 10:42 AM, TheShrike wrote: Interesting idea, but not nearly enough in common for me.
Not that I don't like comparing Bush to Hitler whenever possible (I do), but there are some problems here.

For example, the German assualt upon Russia was doomed to failure.

I doubt we're doomed in Iraq.

HOW DARE YOU COMPARE HITLER AND BUSH SHRIKE I THOUGHT BETTER OF YOU!!

Hitler was a strategic master mind charismatic genious, and GOOD political leader

[TheEvilOne]

I think I'm going to have to set some people in their place...

The reason the Iraqi people are reluctant to show support for US troops is that they aren't sure that victory has been won yet, and are still afraid of Saddam. But yes, you do still see several instances of Iraqis being happy we're there. I think the people will show more happiness and gratitude once Saddam has been toppled.

Oh, and comparing Bush to Hitler is just plain stupid. Hitler was a genocidal maniac, and no matter how much you want to believe he is, Bush is not.

[DarkCyrstal]

At 4/3/03 01:26 PM, TheEvilOne wrote:

Oh, and comparing Bush to Hitler is just plain stupid. Hitler was a genocidal maniac, and no matter how much you want to believe he is, Bush is not.

yes that's what i said. I feel smart now. I am gonna go get a cookie... COOKIE

[panik]

I agree that it is a sort of blitz krieg stratigy but with out the heavy infantry losses. I think we should just keep bombing the perimiter of baggdad for a few weeks and sort of mind fuck them a bit and hpefully we can keep the casualties down for both sides.

[DarkCyrstal]

At 4/3/03 01:54 PM, panik wrote: I agree that it is a sort of blitz krieg stratigy but with out the heavy infantry losses. I think we should just keep bombing the perimiter of baggdad for a few weeks and sort of mind fuck them a bit and hpefully we can keep the casualties down for both sides.

That's a good idea. The only problem is that we need to get this done NOW. It is already triple digit temperature in iraq. If it get's to hot. We won't be able to send in our infantry. Couse they'll ahve to wear chemicle suits in case Iraq uses gases (and they will) and that will add another 50

[bumcheekcity]

At 4/3/03 01:26 PM, TheEvilOne wrote: Oh, and comparing Bush to Hitler is just plain stupid. Hitler was a genocidal maniac, and no matter how much you want to believe he is, Bush is not.

Hitler - Clever, hates Jews, hates Homosexuals, brilliant leader, killed himself.

Bush - Dumb, likes Jews, hates Homosexuals, crap leader and i would love to see that come true...

[DarkCyrstal]

At 4/3/03 04:08 PM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 4/3/03 01:26 PM, TheEvilOne wrote: Oh, and comparing Bush to Hitler is just plain stupid. Hitler was a genocidal maniac, and no matter how much you want to believe he is, Bush is not.

Hitler - Clever, hates Jews, hates Homosexuals, brilliant leader, killed himself.

Bush - Dumb, likes Jews, hates Homosexuals, crap leader and i would love to see that come true...

Yea, Bush does like Jews. What i do not get though, in WW1 there was the Ottoman Empire. Were arabs in WW2 at all? And would they be on hitler's side... I dont think arabs hated Jews at that point. It was only when Britain gave Isreal do the Jews.

[thenark]

Well... Bush and Hitler both won Time magazine's man of the year. So the parallel extends farther than you'd think

[D2Kvirus]

At 4/3/03 12:09 AM, Ruination wrote:
Please don't place Bush on the same level as a tactician like Adolf Hitler...

Yeah, Hitler was an incompetent general (see the Russian Front). Bush has someone else to take the rap for that.