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I think we should slowly do a transition. We should have both SI and Imperial units, slowly moving away from Imperial and into SI. Using SI units for things like international trade, importing, exporting, etc. would be easier and cheaper because we wouldn't have to convert all of our goods from Imperial to SI every time we export to a country which uses SI.

Of course, I think that in the worlds of sports and everyday little measurements that Imperial units can be kept; or not, I could give a care either way there.

At 11/24/06 11:59 PM, Draconias wrote: Metric is not well-suited to everyday applications. Celsius sucks for temperature, since it is far more compressed than Farenheit and lacks the fine differences that humans distinctly notice. Meters suck for measuring small (human-size) objects because it is too large, and centimeters are too small.

It isn't worth the effort because learning the systems requires an insignificant amount of effort. Is it really that hard to remember:
Freeze at 32 degrees
12 inches = 1 foot,
3 feet = 1 yard,
5280 feet = 1 mile

You forgot we have Decimeters, one tenth of a meter. For instance my computerscreen is 4,5 Decimeters. And you can use both systems just as well, but the metric system has a constant value - 1,10,100,1000...- which is way easier.

660 feet = 1 furlong = 1/8 mile
(The last one is optional)

The incentive to convert is too weak because the system we have works well for average life. It is only in science and certain industries that the metric system is actually helpful, and the conflicts with long-established systems cause problems. Traditional systems don't die easily; the British inherited a 5000 foot mile from the Romans, but because they relied on the furlong so heavily, they altered the mile to match the furlong.

At 11/27/06 07:19 AM, Mercator wrote: Nope, sorry. Kelvin is easier. Its already required to be used for EVERY gas equation in chemistry and anything involving volume (because you cant have a negative volume or mass) so why not switch to kelvin as a whole?

Kelvin is awesome for science, sux for weather kind of.

All measurements are arbitrary.
Therefore it doesn't matter one way or another what the country uses. So stop complaining or going off on a righteous tirade.

The usage of miles is just as much of the American identity as being snooty and arrogant is to being European. On top of that it would cost a serious amount of money to change, for something that means nothing. It's all the same, just a different way of looking at distance, wieght, size, heat and so on. Europeans are having a hard time changing their money, so why should the Americans be expected to do the same with their measurments?

At 11/29/06 03:47 PM, Mercator wrote:

At 11/28/06 02:54 AM, Elfer wrote:

At 11/27/06 07:19 AM, Mercator wrote:

How so? The only thing I can think of that it isnt good for is thermal chemistry in which you need negative numbers to represent lost energy or work.

Tempeture Intervals and the tempeture itself both use the same exact symbol.

Besides that there isn't many, just that the idea is to foreign to some people and the aspect of there not being any negative numbers hits hard.

At 11/29/06 03:47 PM, Mercator wrote:

At 11/28/06 02:54 AM, Elfer wrote:

At 11/27/06 07:19 AM, Mercator wrote: Nope, sorry. Kelvin is easier. Its already required to be used for EVERY gas equation in chemistry and anything involving volume (because you cant have a negative volume or mass) so why not switch to kelvin as a whole?

Kelvin is awesome for science, sux for weather kind of.

How so? The only thing I can think of that it isnt good for is thermal chemistry in which you need negative numbers to represent lost energy or work.

Not really, you use change in temperature for most equations in chemistry so technically it wouldn't matter if you used Celcius or Kelvin. Most other equations must use kelvin anyway, such as PV=nRT. I use kelvin all the time since I find it much simpler to use.

At 11/27/06 05:31 AM, Camarohusky wrote:

. Why don't we just convert the entire world to US dollars?

Because dollars are very Look at me i'm from america United states of america written on them & what not

Tee hee i can fold it so it says testes of america we should use that!

every country in the world does use the metric system... o wait... and then there's the us...

actually the metric system in construction is safer, due to the fact that the spacing between members are at a slightly smaller value than their imperial counterpart

At 11/29/06 03:47 PM, Mercator wrote: How so? The only thing I can think of that it isnt good for is thermal chemistry in which you need negative numbers to represent lost energy or work.

It's better for weather because it's based on ambient temperatures instead of an absolute scale, and the zero point is located at a convenient ambient occurence.

Also, in thermo, you use delta T for those types of problems, so Kelvin works fine. Trying to use Celsius will fuck stuff up bad.

At 11/30/06 08:05 PM, Mercator wrote: Its THERMAL chemistry man. You need the negative numbers in celsius to demonstrate the energy or work lost!

No you don't. Negative degrees in celsius do not indicate a loss in work.

At 11/30/06 08:05 PM, Mercator wrote: Its THERMAL chemistry man. You need the negative numbers in celsius to demonstrate the energy or work lost!

A negative temperature in now way means the temp is below zero.

If you were to study an object at 1500 degrees that cools to 1300 degrees, the amount of degree change is -200, i.e. a loss of two hundred degrees. Yet, both tempreatures are in the positive... Strange, huh?

At 11/24/06 08:06 PM, Frenzy wrote: Every country in the world should go by the Metric System.

Why? you ask? Well, because first of all, it's A LOT easier to use. It just goes up by 10 (or down by 10) each measurement, unlike the US's 'Yard, Mile' crap. It's just a lot simpler to use and calculate, and easier for coverting to other measurements.

But really, What's the Point? you say? Well, first of all, for people in careers where measurement is of necessity (construction, etc.) this would make there jobs A LOT simpler. Seriously, the metric system is just waaay simpler, which is good for everybody, I think.

Anyway, I hope that this post gets taken seriously, because I really think that this would be a positive change for the world. Some of you may disagree, but I'm open to suggestions, comments, etc.

I hated learning the metric system, I learned the US's so called "Yard, Mile' crap" and when I learned the metric system I had to learn the US's again. They're not gonna change it that's just it!

At 12/1/06 03:46 PM, Mercator wrote: Yes, but you cannot have a negative kelvin temperature.

He didn't say you could. It wouldn't matter if you used celsius or kelvin in equations that use deltaT, and negative degrees in celsius do not indicate lost work.

Metric is easiest but the transition would cost alot

At 12/1/06 07:47 PM, bigkahuna2020 wrote: Metric is easiest but the transition would cost alot

Americas the richest country in the world. If every other country has done it why can't america.

Not that theres anything wrong with it, it just seems stupid for the 'most advanced' country to still be in the dark ages when it comes to some things

At 12/1/06 09:02 PM, zzzzd wrote:

At 12/1/06 07:47 PM, bigkahuna2020 wrote: Metric is easiest but the transition would cost alot

Americas the richest country in the world. If every other country has done it why can't america.

Because people don't want to.

At 12/1/06 09:02 PM, zzzzd wrote:

At 12/1/06 07:47 PM, bigkahuna2020 wrote: Metric is easiest but the transition would cost alot

Americas the richest country in the world. If every other country has done it why can't america.

Well first of all, we don't want to. Secondly, the 'richness', or the wealth of our country is in the hands of the citizens, because we have low taxes and more of a capitalist system than every other western country (whereas your country has ridiculously high taxes so that your government can enfore nation wide legislation and moderate the economy and the system).

The US government would have to raise taxes in order to fund a conversion to the metric system which Americans don't even want in the first place.

America being the richest country in the world really has nothing to do with it.

Not that theres anything wrong with it, it just seems stupid for the 'most advanced' country to still be in the dark ages when it comes to some things

We don't consider the imperial system to be in the dark ages. It suits are needs perfectly fine for most things.

But you also fail to acknowledge that we use both the Metric and Imperial systems in our country for certain things, just not for standard, everyday things that don't need the realitive ease of the metric system to be efficient.

damn it my car gets 50 rods to the hogs head and thats the way i like it!

Fuck feet!

At 12/3/06 08:25 PM, TheSovereign wrote: Fuck feet!

Eww a foot person.... lol stupid fetishes

Well, this is pretty stupid.

your aware your arguing ease of measure vs ease of calculation.

Its unwinnable from either side.

At 12/10/06 04:12 PM, Excalibur27 wrote: Well, this is pretty stupid.

your aware your arguing ease of measure vs ease of calculation.

Its unwinnable from either side.

How so?

Yeah I totally agree that the metric system is much better. I use it all the time instead of the english system.

At 12/10/06 04:12 PM, Excalibur27 wrote: Well, this is pretty stupid.

your aware your arguing ease of measure vs ease of calculation.

Its unwinnable from either side.

No, metric is easy to measure with too. We're arguing ease of calculation versus random shit that makes no sense.

why not, it makes sense

At 12/1/06 10:46 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

Well first of all, we don't want to. Secondly, the 'richness', or the wealth of our country is in the hands of the citizens

Correction, in the hands of 5% of our population. Plus, our governemnt has more money than the top 5 countries combined, so your excuse for low taxes and such does not make a lick of difference. The fact is, we are still wealthy.

Metric is easier to use. Nuff said.

At 12/12/06 09:54 PM, Elfer wrote:

At 12/10/06 04:12 PM, Excalibur27 wrote: Well, this is pretty stupid.

your aware your arguing ease of measure vs ease of calculation.

Its unwinnable from either side.

No, metric is easy to measure with too. We're arguing ease of calculation versus random shit that makes no sense.

No, you're wrong. Imperial is much easier to measure, and the system already in use. Even if we convert to Metric now, it would be a century or more before we could actually stop using Imperial, and maybe not even then.

A really simple argument for the metric system: *counts fingers* well, look at that, 10 fingers...

the USA is so massive that it would be disasterous after such a change and the majority of the people are used to the other system and millions of books would have to be reprinted