Ucla Student Victim Of Po Brutality

[Russki]

Watch as our country becomes 1940 Germany.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyvrqcxNIFs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyvrqcxNIFs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyvrqcxNIFs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyvrqcxNIFs

Watch as our country becomes 1940 Germany.

The story goes like this;

A student was in the library when an authority asked him to show identification, he
left it somewhere and had none on him, he agreed to leave but needed a minute to
pack up, and leave. This authority had called the police, and they had arrived when
this student was already leaving, he was at the end of the hall near the door. The police
then touch him, to escort him out, the student asks "please don't touch me", they
refuse to listen to his request, and continue, they have no right to touch him.
They still continue to grab him, and the student then yells "Don't touch me!", and
after this the video starts. They then grab him, and he tries to get past them but they
restrain him, he starts to yell "GET OFF ME!". They then taze him. He screams, and
you hear the rest. He then states he has a heart condition . They ignore this and
order him to stand up. Let's use common sense, 50,000 volts went through this man's body,
he isn't fat, he's slim, he has a heart condition, and they tased him for over 5 seconds,
longer than the 2 seconds cops experience in training. He is paralysed temporarily, he
cannot stand up. They say "stand up or we will taze you again.", He refuses because he can't,
and they taze him again. This is the equivalent of saying "Drive this car or I'll blow out your tires!"
So then they drag him down, and you see what happens. Meanwhile a girl is threatened to be
tased just because she asked the cops for their badge numbers. Another man, towards
the end of the video you see him in a white shirt, gets yelled at "get out or we will
taze you too", he was asking them for their information. It is illegal for an officer to not
provide a badge number or name.

Here is what the news and police department says:

He refused to provide identification, refused to leave, resisted arrest, and disobeyed a
direct order from a police officer.

1) He did not refuse to provide identification, he had none, thus he tries to leave.
2) He was already heading down the hall, near the door, not refusing to leave.
3) He was not resisting arrest, they arrested him after they tased and dragged him out
of the building.
4) You could say he disobeyed and order to stand up, but please remember he was tased,
thus temporarily paralysed, had a heart condition, and was weak.

The true story is indeed true because it comes from a witness that was there at UCLA during this
incident.

So please tell people about this abuse of power, make it an issue, make sure it never happens again!
We as citizens need to protect our rights and ourselves! The government is here for the people, we
are to control the government so that we can maintain as a country. The government is not here
to abuse it's creators. Especially in America, this is not 1940's Germany.

Thank you for reading and watching the above video.

more info: http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38 958

[Serphyas]

Bullshit. They didn't call the authorities because he said "he needed a minute to pack up." He refused to leave, and then refused to cooperate with the police officers after they were called. He got tazed.

Somehow I can't classify this as "police brutality." I see an elitist, smart-ass college student who thinks he knows how the world works, i.e. that pussy-ass "Here's your Patriot Act for ya!" comment he made to the police.

[Lost-Chances]

Now, the police officers didn't provide their badge numbers. See the problem?

[ATI-sucks]

At 11/17/06 03:05 AM, Serphyas wrote: Bullshit. They didn't call the authorities because he said "he needed a minute to pack up." He refused to leave, and then refused to cooperate with the police officers after they were called. He got tazed.

Somehow I can't classify this as "police brutality." I see an elitist, smart-ass college student who thinks he knows how the world works, i.e. that pussy-ass "Here's your Patriot Act for ya!" comment he made to the police.

/WIN

it was also kinda funny hearing all those stupid kids bitching and not doing anything ah...i wish i could stab a few of them

[Serphyas]

At 11/17/06 02:49 AM, PimpDevil wrote: 1) He did not refuse to provide identification, he had none, thus he tries to leave.
2) He was already heading down the hall, near the door, not refusing to leave.
3) He was not resisting arrest, they arrested him after they tased and dragged him out
of the building.

Oh PUH-LEASE! What, you think the fuckin' police blocked his exit? You think they wouldn't let him out, and that he really trying to get out of the library the entire time? Give me a fuckin' break.

[BananaBreadMuffin]

If you retain rational thought to scream about the patriot act, you retain enough rational thought to say "ok, I will follow your orders", as far as i'm concerned.

[Serphyas]

At 11/17/06 03:14 AM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: If you retain rational thought to scream about the patriot act, you retain enough rational thought to say "ok, I will follow your orders", as far as i'm concerned.

Honestly. I mean, for Christ's sake, the guy is on the ground screaming "Fuck off" to the police; What the hell does he EXPECT to happen? He sure wasn't interested in cooperating.

[Bolo]

I think both the police and the rebel are partly to blame. Perhaps the police let it get out of hand, and got riled up, but it was the protestor student who really started it all.

[Cereal]

Isn't tazing the last resort, when officers can't restrain a person. They kept telling him to stand up, so they tazed him up, bullshit.

There was a video of a grandma being tazed not that long ago, tell me the officer couldn't over power her.

At 11/17/06 03:07 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Now, the police officers didn't provide their badge numbers. See the problem?

Which is a crime in its own. Absolutely horrible abuse of power.

[Russki]

to clear things up, the guy was screaming at the police because 50,000 watts of electricity was going thru his body.

and the first part he screams wich is a little incoherant is "i said i would leave"

[Lost-Chances]

At 11/17/06 03:23 AM, CrimsonEdge wrote:

At 11/17/06 03:07 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Now, the police officers didn't provide their badge numbers. See the problem?

Which is a crime in its own. Absolutely horrible abuse of power.

Oh god, how could they do something so pure evil. This can only be matched by the holocaust.

[Serphyas]

At 11/17/06 03:23 AM, Cereal wrote: Isn't tazing the last resort, when officers can't restrain a person. They kept telling him to stand up, so they tazed him up, bullshit.

There was a video of a grandma being tazed not that long ago, tell me the officer couldn't over power her.

No, SHOOTING someone is a last resort, that's why tazers are used; they're non-lethal weapons, you know. Just be glad this didn't occur 20 years ago, when the tazer would have been substituted for a nice billy-club to the back of the head.

[LadyGrace]

I like how anything mildly done wrong in this country automatically turns it into 1940 germany and the cops become nazis. Come up with a new metaphor and stop making the holocaust seem like a little buzzword you can smugly spit out anytime something doesn't go as it should. Have some fucking respect.

[Cereal]

At 11/17/06 03:26 AM, Serphyas wrote: No, SHOOTING someone is a last resort, that's why tazers are used; they're non-lethal weapons, you know. Just be glad this didn't occur 20 years ago, when the tazer would have been substituted for a nice billy-club to the back of the head.

I doubt they would of shot him for that, they should of just handcuffed him and escorted him out, not tazing him, then scream "stand up!" instead of helping him up

At 11/17/06 03:21 AM, Talcum wrote: I think both the police and the rebel are partly to blame. Perhaps the police let it get out of hand, and got riled up, but it was the protestor student who really started it all.

The student started it all by leaving after packing his bags? Yeah, that's really starting it. He did as was requested of him. The police getting there and grabbing him by the arm was the first mistake.

The police weren't even needed in the situation.

When the police refused to give badge number, what they did was no longer an act of a police officer, but an act of a violent man. If you are unable to give a badge number, especially AFTER what happened and then threaten somebody who asks, you are breaking the law.

Except those police officers to either go to jail or pay a heavy fine while all things against the student are dropped.

[F00D]

At 11/17/06 03:05 AM, Serphyas wrote: Bullshit. They didn't call the authorities because he said "he needed a minute to pack up." He refused to leave, and then refused to cooperate with the police officers after they were called. He got tazed.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

its hilarious when people don't actually read into a story, and make shit up about it because it is what they want to believe. you based that statement entirely on your biased interpretation of the video, without getting any of the facts first.

I'm a student at UCLA and the full story is as follows:

the student was in the library after 11 pm. during this time, only students and faculty are allowed in the Powell library's lab. the police officers were going around doing random checks for Bruincards when they came upon the student, who realized he had forgotten his ID. as he tried to leave, the police officer grabbed his arm, and this caused the student to become irate and yell "dont touch me." sure, he was being belligerent, but he wasn't making any actual threats towards the officers, he certainly didn't instigate the conflict, and the use of force was unnecesary. why didn't they just let the guy leave, for fuck's sake?
it was at the moment that he began yelling that they tased him. he wasn't warned about it at all, as you see in some other taser videos. they then told him to stand up, even though he was limp and couldn't move. studies have shown that tasers can paralyze people for 5-15 minutes, especially if you tase them 4 fucking times and they have a medical condition. yet the cops kept going, kept telling him to get up then tasing him when he was unable to comply.
this is what every single eye witness testimony states, and the video also supports it.

trust me, there aren't a lot of crimes on this campus, so when the UCPD sees something even slightly out of the ordinary they blow it out of proportion. I'd be willing to bet 100 bucks that this was the first time these officers had even used a taser in a real world setting. and if you think they weren't just ITCHING to test out their equipment, skip to the end of the video where the cop threatens to tase an onlooker for simply asking what his badge number is. this alone is enough to get the officer fired.

if you defend the cops in this circumstance, you are a fucking dumbass. police officers are not always correct and just, for pete's sake. they're human, just like you and me. and they make mistakes. they make poor decisions. this is almost certainly one of those cases.

Somehow I can't classify this as "police brutality." I see an elitist, smart-ass college student who thinks he knows how the world works, i.e. that pussy-ass "Here's your Patriot Act for ya!" comment he made to the police.

oh yeah, because in this country if you make a "pussy-ass" statement, law enforcement has every right to use excessive force on you! if you are talking but aren't making any actual threats, by all means the cops can shut you up! maybe a few socks to the head, club em with a baton, pepper spray em, tase the shit out of them while they lie helpless on the ground. i mean, words are far more dangerous than any of those, right?

At 11/17/06 03:25 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Oh god, how could they do something so pure evil. This can only be matched by the holocaust.

At 11/17/06 03:25 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Oh god, how could they do something so pure evil. This can only be matched by the holocaust.

I didn't say anything about the holocaust or it being evil.

Abuse of power is a horrible thing. It has nothing to do with evil.

[F00D]

At 11/17/06 03:31 AM, CrimsonEdge wrote: Except those police officers to either go to jail or pay a heavy fine while all things against the student are dropped.

the student has already been released from custody. he was never even taken to jail. further proof of his total innocence and the complete idiocy of the police officers.

[LadyGrace]

At 11/17/06 03:31 AM, CrimsonEdge wrote: The student started it all by leaving after packing his bags?

I didn't see that happen. Did someone see something in the video I didn't?

Yeah, that's really starting it. He did as was requested of him. The police getting there and grabbing him by the arm was the first mistake.

How do you know they didn't ask him to leave first?

The police weren't even needed in the situation.

Once again, here say.

When the police refused to give badge number, what they did was no longer an act of a police officer, but an act of a violent man. If you are unable to give a badge number, especially AFTER what happened and then threaten somebody who asks, you are breaking the law.

When you're dealing with a beligerent person, there's more then just, "oh, ok, let me stop what I'm doing and give you my badge number." There's actually lists of protocol when you're dealing with a beligerent person.

Except those police officers to either go to jail or pay a heavy fine while all things against the student are dropped.

They won't because they didn't do anything out of the ordinary. Because he's a white college student from UCLA you expect the cops to pay? It's not going to happen. The kid is a whiney, self-important UCLA student who thinks much more highly of himself then necessary.

[HandsomeJake]

seriously, it's sad. it makes me want to cry. i hate government

At 11/17/06 03:36 AM, LadyGrace wrote: I didn't see that happen. Did someone see something in the video I didn't?

Read the news report. He was allready leaving. If he had intent to stay, the cops would have arrived with him sitting there.

He packed his bags and left.

How do you know they didn't ask him to leave first?

Because of the source listed in the post.

Once again, here say.

He was leaving as said in the source in the post.

When you're dealing with a beligerent person, there's more then just, "oh, ok, let me stop what I'm doing and give you my badge number." There's actually lists of protocol when you're dealing with a beligerent person.

After he was escorted out, several police officers neglected to not only give badge numbers but threatened to taze the people who asked. You can hear it in the video near the end.

They won't because they didn't do anything out of the ordinary. Because he's a white college student from UCLA you expect the cops to pay? It's not going to happen. The kid is a whiney, self-important UCLA student who thinks much more highly of himself then necessary.

Watch the video after he was escorted out. There is enough proof there as well as video tape and several witnesses to not only fine the police officers, but to get them into trouble.

[Russki]

all you skeptics, dig further into this,
i have found news footage and interveiws with student witnesses that saw the whole thing happen.

What if something like this happened to you? You would then try to tell your story right? That the police used excessive force and you're pissed right? That this should never happen

[VeryProudofYa]

"NO I WILL NOT GET UP, OFFICER"

"WHY ARE YOU TASING ME GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"

[Cereal]

At 11/17/06 03:36 AM, LadyGrace wrote: I didn't see that happen. Did someone see something in the video I didn't?

Apparently, thats the story that all the witnesses there saw.

When you're dealing with a beligerent person, there's more then just, "oh, ok, let me stop what I'm doing and give you my badge number." There's actually lists of protocol when you're dealing with a beligerent person.

Do you have an excuse for when te cop at the end says "get back or you'll get tazed too" I didn't see any mayhem around.

[F00D]

At 11/17/06 03:36 AM, LadyGrace wrote: I didn't see that happen. Did someone see something in the video I didn't?

try READING THE ARTICLE ON THIS

They won't because they didn't do anything out of the ordinary. Because he's a white college student from UCLA you expect the cops to pay? It's not going to happen. The kid is a whiney, self-important UCLA student who thinks much more highly of himself then necessary.

nice sweeping generalization about UCLA students, there. yep, we're all elitist white pricks with a sense of entitlement! too bad the student is a fucking MUSLIM, and the vast majority of the school is ASIAN.

and if you think the cops aren't going to pay, you should look at just how big this shit has gotten in the media.

[HandsomeJake]

At 11/17/06 03:32 AM, dicF00D wrote:

Somehow I can't classify this as "police brutality." I see an elitist, smart-ass college student who thinks he knows how the world works, i.e. that pussy-ass "Here's your Patriot Act for ya!" comment he made to the police.

oh yeah, because in this country if you make a "pussy-ass" statement, law enforcement has every right to use excessive force on you! if you are talking but aren't making any actual threats, by all means the cops can shut you up! maybe a few socks to the head, club em with a baton, pepper spray em, tase the shit out of them while they lie helpless on the ground. i mean, words are far more dangerous than any of those, right?

yeah, it's true. i believe there's a philosophy term for the. avail of ignorance. it's basically not being able to put yourself in someone's position who you wish harm to

[LadyGrace]

At 11/17/06 03:44 AM, dicF00D wrote: try READING THE ARTICLE ON THIS

Yeah, I read the article and it was a 4 paragraphed completely biased rag. How about we understand the full story. Seeing as how the UCPD had to have actually come down to ask the guy to leave before calling the police.

nice sweeping generalization about UCLA students, there. yep, we're all elitist white pricks with a sense of entitlement! too bad the student is a fucking MUSLIM, and the vast majority of the school is ASIAN.

Oh, so you're pulling the race card now? Wow, that's not stereotypical.

and if you think the cops aren't going to pay, you should look at just how big this shit has gotten in the media.

Right, because the media always incites punishment for cops.

[Cereal]

Watch at 6.39/6.44, thats when it makes it feel like 1940 Germany when the cops threaten to taze random people.

[Russki]

alright, heres a non-biased report from MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15731040/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15731040/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15731040/

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