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I honestly would like to know why so many hate bush? What has he done that is so terrible and caused you all to disrespect him at every chance you get. I really dont see why hes any worse than clinton or kenedy or the others.

This is what I think is wrong with Bush:
1. didn't win 2000 election
2. delared illegal war
3. pronounces "nuclear" wrong
4. made ashcroft attorney general
5. made rumsfeld sec of defense
6. made cheney vice president
7. supports the death penalty
8. believes in god
9. etc., etc., etc.

At 3/30/03 08:08 PM, OpIvy420 wrote: This is what I think is wrong with Bush:
1. didn't win 2000 election
2. delared illegal war
3. pronounces "nuclear" wrong
4. made ashcroft attorney general
5. made rumsfeld sec of defense
6. made cheney vice president
7. supports the death penalty
8. believes in god
9. etc., etc., etc.

ok how about a good reason now?

At 3/30/03 08:08 PM, OpIvy420 wrote: This is what I think is wrong with Bush:
1. didn't win 2000 election
2. delared illegal war
3. pronounces "nuclear" wrong
4. made ashcroft attorney general
5. made rumsfeld sec of defense
6. made cheney vice president
7. supports the death penalty
8. believes in god
9. etc., etc., etc.

I voted for him my family voted for him lots of people did thats why he did win. THERE ARE NO ILLEGAL WARS. I dont really give a fuck about how he talks. Dont really care who he made what. Killers, Rapists, and other phycos should be put to death. AND I BELIVE IN GOD YOU COCK SUCKER SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GIVE SOME REAL EVIDENCE OF HIM BEING A BAD GUY.

At 3/30/03 08:08 PM, OpIvy420 wrote: This is what I think is wrong with Bush:
1. didn't win 2000 election
2. delared illegal war
3. pronounces "nuclear" wrong
4. made ashcroft attorney general
5. made rumsfeld sec of defense
6. made cheney vice president
7. supports the death penalty
8. believes in god
9. etc., etc., etc.

1. So he didn't. It is only right that Gore would have won. Even though I'm a Republican, I think this.

2. The US is a sovereign nation, is it not?

3. So he has a speech impediment. Big whoop.

4-6. He can appoint whoever whe wants with the Senate's support. He also has a right to choose his VP.

7. Murderers should get their just punishment.

8. What does that have to do with anything?!

9. I'm not even going to adress this one.

He even took the time to mention(actually, not mention) hydrogen powered cars in his State of the Union address. And even though U.S. is a sovereign state, we're still bound by the U.N.(apperantly Bush thinks otherwise)

At 3/30/03 08:08 PM, OpIvy420 wrote: This is what I think is wrong with Bush:
1. didn't win 2000 election
2. delared illegal war
3. pronounces "nuclear" wrong
4. made ashcroft attorney general
5. made rumsfeld sec of defense
6. made cheney vice president
7. supports the death penalty
8. believes in god
9. etc., etc., etc.

Sure sounds like your just spitting out your opinion with no facts. Regurgatated Rhetoric might as well listen to a machine recording. These are not valid responses. beeeep

At 3/31/03 06:15 PM, PoptartKing wrote: He even took the time to mention(actually, not mention) hydrogen powered cars in his State of the Union address. And even though U.S. is a sovereign state, we're still bound by the U.N.(apperantly Bush thinks otherwise)

If a nation is to be truly independent, then the decisions of the UN should not be binding. The UN is a great forum for diplomacy, but it is not a one-world government.

And to be brutally honest, if the UN's decisions are not binding on Iraq, why should they be binding on us?

At 3/30/03 07:59 PM, RageAholic wrote: Why?

The following is taken straight from
15 reasons to hate Bush
(http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=60616)

Veggiemeal---Posted: 3/31/03 03:35 PM

1) He cut a half a BILLION dollars from the Environmental Protection Agency’s budget. Who needs to look after the environment when there’s all that oil drilling going on?

Eviro-what? Huh? Does it have to do with nu-q-lar stuff? No... Scrap it.

2) He approved a bill that denies financial aid to students convicted of misdemeanor drug charges (though convicted murderers are still eligible for financial aid).

Because, murderers don't support international terrorism.

3) He recently sent a delegation to the UN children’s summit to declare that the use of condoms is not a valid way to fight AIDS and that abstinence is the only solution. This is the view shared by some other countries such as Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Syria, and the Vatican. It seems that his policy of, "No child shall be left behind" has a whole new meaning.

Yeah. This is true. The safest sex is no sex. But what if people are still having sex?

4) He wouldn’t sign the Kyoto Protocol agreement on global warming, which was ultimately signed by 178 other countries. He also told the entire European community that he would listen to their arguments, but he would not change his mind, effectively treating Europe like an 8 year old child. This may have something to do with why most of the world hates the US.

Having to make our pollution-plants run like a 1971 Pinto is a good idea. Forget making them clean and efficient! Someone might not make a HUGE profit!

5) He rejected an international accord to enforce the 1972 treaty banning germ warfare. Of course that would mean that the US would have to stop producing biological agents too.

After all, we are fighting a guy who doesn't do what the world wants him to do.

6) And talk about the fox watching over the hen house, he nominated former mining company executive Dan Lauriski as Assistant Secretary of Labor for Mine Safety and Health.

Wow... Didn't know about that. Makes sense, knowing Dubya.

7) He allocated only 3% of the amount requested by Justice Department lawyers in the governments continued litigation against tobacco companies.

Really. Why would they need all that money to fight against rich companies who suppy the public with poison?

8) He prohibited any financial aid from going to international family planning organizations that provide abortion counseling, referrals, or services with their own funds.

This, I don't care about.

9) He provided every member of the Bin Laden family living in the U.S. a chartered plane shortly after 9/11 to fly back home to Saudi Arabia without questioning them. One of GW’s first petroleum venture was partnered with the Bin Laden family and George Sr. has been getting filthy rich selling defense contracts to the Bin Ladens. These are just some examples of the many ties the Bush family has with the Bin Ladens.

I'm not sure about the truth behind this...

10) He officially withdrew from the 1972 Antiballistic Missile Treaty, gutting the landmark agreement-the first time in the nuclear era that the US renounced a major arms control accord.

.... Seems the further I get, the less I agree.. but there is more...

11) Refused to join 123 nations pledged to ban the use and production of anti-personnel bombs and mines, February 2001

Because using mines is so humane. But again, I cannot really gripe this.

12) September 2001: withdrew from International Conference on Racism, bringing together 163 countries in Durban, South Africa

I wonder what Harry Belafonte had to say about that... On second thought... No I don't.

13) Over the past 10 years, the US prison population has more than doubled. This is mainly due to unfair three strikes laws, and harsher drug penalties. OK so maybe W. wasn’t behind this one, but the Republicans are.

Well... This is about Bush, so I won't comment.

14) International Plan for Cleaner Energy: G-8 group of industrial nations (US, Canada, Japan, Russia, Germany, France, Italy, UK), July 2001: the US was the only one to oppose it.

Enviro-what?

15) George replied, "Ken who?" when asked about his relationship with Kenneth Lay, the CEO of Enron, during the federal bankruptcy hearings. This was after Enron gave him their company jet to use for his presidential campaign. George and Kenny were such good friends that Ken was actually seen giving wedgies to the president in the oval office. Yet he still replied, "Ken who?"

I dunno about the wedgies, but it certainly makes for a funny mental picture.

Source: punkvoter.com

Even though I disagree with some of these, there is more than enough for me.
And I'm not a democrat... so don't try to attack Clinton, I may just laugh with you.

ok i'm getting a little bit bored of these, "I hate Bush because..." posts...

-if you're not from America, thank you for pointing out its citizens stupidity...back off!

-if you're american and underage to vote, deal with it and whine to your parents...hopefully that makes two votes for you

-if you're american and can vote...vote in two years and hope you get the results you want.

welcome to america where unlike countries with dictatorships in the middle-east, change is possible.

Veggiemeal---Posted: 3/31/03 03:35 PM

1) He cut a half a BILLION dollars from the Environmental Protection Agency’s budget. Who needs to look after the environment when there’s all that oil drilling going on?

Relax, I'm sure that the EPA wasn't the only agency whose budget was cut. We need to cut back expenses anyway.

2) He approved a bill that denies financial aid to students convicted of misdemeanor drug charges (though convicted murderers are still eligible for financial aid).

One wonders why a murderer would even need financial aid, given that they're likely spending the rest of their lives in prison, if not sitting on death row. But I am opposed to the war on drugs--a war which is supported by both parties.

3) He recently sent a delegation to the UN children’s summit to declare that the use of condoms is not a valid way to fight AIDS and that abstinence is the only solution. This is the view shared by some other countries such as Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Syria, and the Vatican. It seems that his policy of, "No child shall be left behind" has a whole new meaning.

Well, abstinence is the only guaranteed way to avoid it. But you're right, people are still going to do it, so condom use should be encouraged. But putting the Vatican in the same group as card-carrying members of the Axis of Evil™? Just what did they mean by that?

4) He wouldn’t sign the Kyoto Protocol agreement on global warming, which was ultimately signed by 178 other countries. He also told the entire European community that he would listen to their arguments, but he would not change his mind, effectively treating Europe like an 8 year old child. This may have something to do with why most of the world hates the US.

Environmental reponsibility should be encouraged, but if I'm not mistaken, Kyoto went a little far.

5) He rejected an international accord to enforce the 1972 treaty banning germ warfare. Of course that would mean that the US would have to stop producing biological agents too.

Never heard that one before. Can you cite another source besides the one where you got this list from?

6) And talk about the fox watching over the hen house, he nominated former mining company executive Dan Lauriski as Assistant Secretary of Labor for Mine Safety and Health.

Well, whoop-de-fucking-doo. You people act as if "former corporate executive = evil". You'd think someone who's worked in the mining industry might know something about mine safety, or at least know others who know something about mine safety.

7) He allocated only 3% of the amount requested by Justice Department lawyers in the governments continued litigation against tobacco companies.

Make no mistake--the tobacco companies need a slap in the face. But is more litigation really necessary? I think the tobacco companies have already been punished plenty, and will continue to find ways to do what they've always done, no matter how much you try to limit them. Hell, the "youth smoking prevention" ads that the government makes them put out actually make people want to smoke MORE (and it's pretty obvious why--those ads suck, big time).

8) He prohibited any financial aid from going to international family planning organizations that provide abortion counseling, referrals, or services with their own funds.

And this is a bad thing?

9) He provided every member of the Bin Laden family living in the U.S. a chartered plane shortly after 9/11 to fly back home to Saudi Arabia without questioning them. One of GW’s first petroleum venture was partnered with the Bin Laden family and George Sr. has been getting filthy rich selling defense contracts to the Bin Ladens. These are just some examples of the many ties the Bush family has with the Bin Ladens.

Once again, I want a second source.

10) He officially withdrew from the 1972 Antiballistic Missile Treaty, gutting the landmark agreement-the first time in the nuclear era that the US renounced a major arms control accord.

Do we really need to be bound to cold-war-era treaties? The world has changed, folks.

13) Over the past 10 years, the US prison population has more than doubled. This is mainly due to unfair three strikes laws, and harsher drug penalties. OK so maybe W. wasn’t behind this one, but the Republicans are.

Once again, both parties support the war on drugs. And once again, I am opposed. At the very least, legalize marijuana. That would solve a lot of prison overcrowding problems.

15) George replied, "Ken who?" when asked about his relationship with Kenneth Lay, the CEO of Enron, during the federal bankruptcy hearings. This was after Enron gave him their company jet to use for his presidential campaign. George and Kenny were such good friends that Ken was actually seen giving wedgies to the president in the oval office. Yet he still replied, "Ken who?"

This one is really reaching. The wedgies comment suggests that this source isn't really one to be taken too seriously. I want to see more proof that Bush and Lay know each other. And even if they do, I doubt Bush had any role whatsoever in the scandal. Just more of the "Bush in bed with corporate robbers" propaganda.

Source: punkvoter.com

A reputable source indeed.

I like Bush. He is a cute monkey-man. Aww monkey babble. I like when he concentrates really hard and then he makes that silly face. I wish I had a George Bush Jr. dolly. It would be my favorite toy of all.

i think bush has been a great president. The things bush has had go through in his term is unbelieveable.
1.9/11
2.due to 9/11 our economy falls
3.tax cuts.
4.wage war on terroism
5.after afghanistan bush basically informs the u.n.
to do there job.
6.Bush sees nothing is gonna come out the u.n.{pussies}so he takes care of weapon inspections himself with force.
7.bush is now gonna liberate iraq and establish a democracy for the iraqis and rid of any threats coming from there again

*2.due to 9/11 our econoy falls but bush is trying to bring it back up.

forgot to finish 2

<sigh> feel free to verbaly rape bush if you like, this is after all, america, but know this, 20 years from now, he'll be remembered as the great leader he is. He's almost done as much for the world this term as he has for america..... what has he done in afganistan? freed the people. what is he doing in Iraq now? FREEING the people, and better still, making the world safer to live in, god knows what kinda chemicals saddam has... guess we'll all find out just how much Bush will be loved when he finds all those bio weaps saddam is hidding.............

Heres the reason why this whole war started? It started 10 years ago with George Bush Sr and Saddam and they never really finished it. So George Bush Jr is doing what his father had the chance to do but didn't which is kill Saddam!! Thats the real reason and don't let anyone else tell you wrong.

At 4/1/03 06:56 PM, layzkid2000 wrote: Heres the reason why this whole war started? It started 10 years ago with George Bush Sr and Saddam and they never really finished it. So George Bush Jr is doing what his father had the chance to do but didn't which is kill Saddam!! Thats the real reason and don't let anyone else tell you wrong.

LOL, yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

only a dumbass would say that.

bush is there to free the iraqi people and remove threat from the u.s. and any of there allies.

*personal opinion:i also think hes doin a fablous on job spreading democracy.

At 4/1/03 05:22 PM, dlsc187 wrote: i think bush has been a great president. The things bush has had go through in his term is unbelieveable.
1.9/11
2.due to 9/11 our economy falls
3.tax cuts.
4.wage war on terroism
5.after afghanistan bush basically informs the u.n.
to do there job.
6.Bush sees nothing is gonna come out the u.n.{pussies}so he takes care of weapon inspections himself with force.
7.bush is now gonna liberate iraq and establish a democracy for the iraqis and rid of any threats coming from there again

Excellent, I never thought of it like that. I think bush is doing a good job too but i never thought of it like that. And Im a Democrate

At 4/1/03 06:35 PM, Madjik wrote:

what has he done in afganistan? freed the people. what is he doing in Iraq now? FREEING the people, and better still, making the world safer to live in,

Kinda contridicted myself, to clear things up, mostly this is what I belive, but your crazy if you think bushes father didnt play even a small part in all this.

At 3/30/03 08:26 PM, RageAholic wrote:

At 3/30/03 08:08 PM, OpIvy420 wrote: This is what I think is wrong with Bush:
1. didn't win 2000 election
2. delared illegal war
3. pronounces "nuclear" wrong
4. made ashcroft attorney general
5. made rumsfeld sec of defense
6. made cheney vice president
7. supports the death penalty
8. believes in god
9. etc., etc., etc.

I voted for him my family voted for him lots of people did thats why he did win. THERE ARE NO ILLEGAL WARS. I dont really give a fuck about how he talks. Dont really care who he made what. Killers, Rapists, and other phycos should be put to death. AND I BELIVE IN GOD YOU COCK SUCKER SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GIVE SOME REAL EVIDENCE OF HIM BEING A BAD GUY.

1) no such thing as illigal war? well....then he needs to shut the fuck up about the troops beeing held "oh no!".
2) he is not a strong clear headed president. he is scared to do shit!!! he goes to damn lawyers to make sure that he doesnt break "human rights", and how the fuck do you plan to take over a country if you are scared to do shit!? AND HE LOOKS LIKE A DAMN STUPID MONKEY!!!!!
3) you belive on god? well...so does bush, then why dont we let god to take over those "unfaithful ones"?

p.s.
you idiot

oh and excuse my spelling i am in a bit of a rush

At 4/1/03 08:49 PM, Madjik wrote:

At 4/1/03 06:35 PM, Madjik wrote:

what has he done in afganistan? freed the people. what is he doing in Iraq now? FREEING the people, and better still, making the world safer to live in,

Kinda contridicted myself, to clear things up, mostly this is what I belive, but your crazy if you think bushes father didnt play even a small part in all this.

HE IS THERE FOR THE MOTHERFUCKING OIL YOU DIPSHIT! HEIS RUNNING OUT OF RESOURCES!....agh....let me tell you child how it works.....
1) germany, france etc. were giving money to Iraq to help them process oil, and samdam was going to die eventually (cause hs is old) and they were going to claim the oil rigs. That is why they are assisting america.
p.s. oh and when you read the paper where they gave you the number of people lost in WW1 and WW2, Vietnam war, etc......doesnt it make you wonder WHY they gave you ONLY the american deaths? THERE WERE ABOUT 15 MILLION lifes lost in WW2 i belive, and i think they say that 300,000 americans dies.....oh no! well, they do that to get sympathy from their people, and to bubble up the numbers a bit
2) Mr.Tree (bush), wanted the oil also so he used this "terrorists" attack thing as a reason! and yes he DID go against the UN law, which doesnt really make him a team player now does it?.............damn tree

i think i said pretty much all i had to say...and belive it or not, its true...SO BUSH CAN SUCK MY DICK

At 4/1/03 07:54 PM, panik wrote:

At 4/1/03 05:22 PM, dlsc187 wrote: i think bush has been a great president. The things bush has had go through in his term is unbelieveable.
1.9/11
2.due to 9/11 our economy falls
3.tax cuts.
4.wage war on terroism
5.after afghanistan bush basically informs the u.n.
to do there job.
6.Bush sees nothing is gonna come out the u.n.{pussies}so he takes care of weapon inspections himself with force.
7.bush is now gonna liberate iraq and establish a democracy for the iraqis and rid of any threats coming from there again

Excellent, I never thought of it like that. I think bush is doing a good job too but i never thought of it like that. And Im a Democrate

he cut the tax cause he will increase them after! do you have ANY idea how much the war will cost america? no? well....go and find out for your self if you are so sure in your "great" president

At 4/2/03 09:13 AM, TST wrote: 1) no such thing as illigal war? well....then he needs to shut the fuck up about the troops beeing held "oh no!".
2) he is not a strong clear headed president. he is scared to do shit!!! he goes to damn lawyers to make sure that he doesnt break "human rights", and how the fuck do you plan to take over a country if you are scared to do shit!? AND HE LOOKS LIKE A DAMN STUPID MONKEY!!!!!
3) you belive on god? well...so does bush, then why dont we let god to take over those "unfaithful ones"?

the 'illegal war' is just propaganda set forth by moronic protestors who do not actually have their own opinions. im not saying no protestors have their own opinions, but it seems that very few do.

not a strong president? look at what hes dealt with
afraid to do "shit"? and you would prefer clinton's approach to all this? dont even say al ore would have handled it better....he is a robot and feels no emotion
how can you complain about bush fighting an 'illegal war' and then complain about his concern for human rights? you cant agree with opposite ends of the spectrum at the same time
and appearance? that has SO MUCH to do with presidential ability. has there ever been a president who didnt look a little goofy?

as for your comment on God....He created man in his image, He did not program us to be puppets, so He does not have complete control over our actions in this world. i personally think the theologicical aspect of these discussions (arguments?) should be dropped.

At 4/2/03 09:19 AM, TST wrote: HE IS THERE FOR THE MOTHERFUCKING OIL YOU DIPSHIT! HEIS RUNNING OUT OF RESOURCES!....agh....let me tell you child how it works.....
1) germany, france etc. blah blah blah.....

now, let ME tell YOU how it works....

it is not a war for oil. if it were, wed go after a country with more oil than iraq. you think saudi arabia has less oil than iraq? no, they dont. if it were truly a war for oil, wed go after saudi arabia before iraq.

running out of resources? no, were not. do you realize that nearly 20% of the oil we import comes from either canada or mexico? we only get 2.2% of our oil from iraq. and back to saudi arabia, they supply us with 7.9% of our imports.

the war for oil theory holds no water. oil is a plus for when we win, but it is not the reason. its not like were going to get free oil, its still gonna be iraqi oil and were still gonna pay for it.

now i think it is i who is "Bringing you up and taking you down"

2. The US is a sovereign nation, is it not?

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Yes, the US is a sovereign nation. A sovereign nation who has agreed with several other sovereign nations to abide by the decisions made by the UN through democratic procedures. How does one propose to introduce democracy into a country by violating the democratic procedures of the UN ?

President Bush has effectively chosen to override the rules and regulations of the UN by declaring war without a valid charter. How can you violate democracy and claim you´re doing it in order to let others have democracy ?

This war IS illegal. The UN was established in order to AVOID "sovereign nations" from starting wars on their own. The tragedy is that Bush could probably have gone through the proper diplomatic channels - and started this war with massive global backing - instead of causing massive global protest.

The power of the UN has been compromised. Not by Saddam or bomb-wielding-terrorists, but by the arrogance of President Bush. International politics should not be based on macho bravado or on reestablishing the wounded pride of a nation in shock following 9/11.

Bush has managed to remove the authority of the UN and to give Islamic Fundamentalists around the world a valid reason for hating the USA. I fail to see the brilliance of his political decisions.

Bush is the Leader of the pro-war "rallies".....He is pushing for war, He is defying the world, and he is arrogent and doesn't even listen to his own staff, let alone his own people.....

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/dissent.html

At 4/1/03 08:49 PM, Madjik wrote:

At 4/1/03 06:35 PM, Madjik wrote:

what has he done in afganistan? freed the people. what is he doing in Iraq now? FREEING the people, and better still, making the world safer to live in,

Afghanistan is in a fucking chaos right now. Whey do you think you never hear anything about it anymore?

What has he done in afganistan? freed the people. what is he doing in Iraq now? FREEING the people, and better still, making the world safer to live in,

If "freeing" a country involves forcibly removing its' present culture and destroying what little infrastructure and commerce it may have, then yes.

"Making the world safer to live in" - For whom ?
Does anyone actually believe that this war will bring an end to conflict ? Or the next one ? Or the one after that ?

On the contrary, this war is aggravating those who were infavorably disposed towards the US already - and giving martyrs of all kinds a legitimate reason to slay the "Western Imperialists".

We do NOT need any further conflict between the US and those who do not agree with their views. Bush is helping to widen the gap between western and eastern culture.

everything is wrong with bush, and theres no way in hell you can compare him to kennedy or clinton. dont be an ignorant prick

represent.