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At 3/9/07 11:42 PM, Demosthenez wrote:

At 3/9/07 04:03 PM, Boltrig wrote: One fourth. From a country that had not had its manufacturing centres decimated by bombers. And from a country with a much more massive manufacturing capability.

The Whermacht never targeted manufacturing centers like the US and UK did.

The major populatiom centres were bombed indiscriminately. Thats where the factories are. Who works in factories? people! Who gets killed when towns and cities were bombed? People.

At 3/9/07 05:49 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 3/9/07 10:57 AM, Boltrig wrote:

Yeah, like after 9/11 you neede any encouragement from us to go rampaging into Afgahnistan

Haha, I love you hypocrites.

Heh, it was your intelligence and YOU went along for the ride! Hahaha

"The U.S. may have decided long before 9/11 to invade Afghanistan in October 2001. On September 18, 2001 Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, said "senior U.S. officials" told him in mid-July 2001 that U.S. military action against Afghanistan would be commenced by the middle of October 2001." (Source)

Get your facts right.

"The United States and the UK, along with many intelligence experts, asserted that Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of WMD in 2003, and that he must be prevented from building any more. Inspections restarted in 2002, but hadn't turned up any evidence of ongoing programs when the United States and the "Coalition of the Willing" invaded Iraq and overthrew Saddam Hussein in March 2003." (Source)

Theres an AND in there.

Great controversy emerged when no stockpiles of such weapons were found, leading to accusations that the United States, and in particular its President George W. Bush had deliberately inflated intelligence or lied about Iraq's weapons in order to justify an invasion of the country. (same source)

hey ameicans dont say nothing good about our presedent so i dont know where this is cmin from infact we hate the fuck outta him ourselves nor do we brag about bein a powerful nation and we definetly arent barbaric so i suggest u get this shit straight before u talk about americans like that u know wut im sick of wannabees like u who talk about americans sayin this stuff when u dont know shit about us!!!! so think about this kinda stuff before u say stuf like ths again. One more thing why do other nations hate us so much what have we done to u guys???

boltrig i also wanted to say i partially agree with u even thou it wasnt exactly all of americas fault america had no choice with sadam hussain we infact also knew that G. W. Bush ony wanted to get saddam becuse of his father who also wanted to get saddam but didnt have the chance so thats what happened to saddam also please dont put the rest of the united states with that bastard george w bush expecially since u probably dont know if the people had to much of a choice and rest assure bush wont be elected again after this shit he pulled.

At 3/11/07 01:57 PM, xtremedevil wrote: boltrig i also wanted to say i partially agree with u even thou it wasnt exactly all of americas fault america had no choice with sadam hussain we infact also knew that G. W. Bush ony wanted to get saddam becuse of his father who also wanted to get saddam but didnt have the chance so thats what happened to saddam also please dont put the rest of the united states with that bastard george w bush expecially since u probably dont know if the people had to much of a choice and rest assure bush wont be elected again after this shit he pulled.

The full stop was invented roughly at the same time as the language was. Look into it man.
That said ;

i know not all of America wanted the war, I didnt say they did. Im just making a point to the people on here solely blaming the UK for the false intel on Iraq.

And GW probably wont be re elected more because of the fact that he's served his two terms. I cant ever see that bullshit with the patriot act ever happening either.

At 3/9/07 12:52 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

You actually make me laugh how you insist the US won the war.

America may of dominated the pacific and had more in Western europe But you forget that the eastern front inflicted 5million deaths on the axis (out of 8million who died in the war)
Africa was more Commonwealth
I would hardly call the med campaign 50% american. The Italian campaign was 50/50 US/Commonwealth but the rest of the Med was generally dominated by the Commonwealth.
SE Asia were 300,000 japanese died was mostly Commonwealth. And Australia were heavily involved with parts of the Pacific.
And the Atlantic which for some reason always gets forgotten but where the large majority of Axis Battleships, Destroyers,Cruisers and Submarines were sunk was dominated by the UK and Canada.

Yeah guys, we all remember going through World War Two, and we all have strong feelings about it, but it's in the past now.

If you're going to discuss which country is the awesomest, concentrate on what is, not what once was.

At 3/11/07 08:44 PM, zzzzd wrote: rhetoric trying to mitigate America's role

America > all other allies.
That's how the dice rolls.

This is old, but whatever, I didn't see it.

At 3/10/07 07:47 AM, Boltrig wrote:

Get your facts right.

I never disputed that... whoo!

Great controversy emerged when no stockpiles of such weapons were found, leading to accusations that the United States, and in particular its President George W. Bush had deliberately inflated intelligence or lied about Iraq's weapons in order to justify an invasion of the country. (same source)

Hahaha, my god, I didn't think your intelligence could sink any lower. It's funny, by that logic, all the other 40+ nations did the exact same thing. Also, as your link stated, it was to prevent Saddam from building or obtaining more, which we did, as those UN inspectors did say that altho he Saddam was turned down, he was trying to obtain them.

Haha, I love you idiots. You had the exact same look at the exact same information which all said the exact same thing. And what did you people do? You voted to go to war, but now that things have changed and fearing that you were "wrong", you're going to blame the one man known as George Bush and use him as a scapegoat.

Case and point, mother fucker.

This topic is roughly about modern American arrogance.

Why are we talking about WW2? And who cares it's in the past.

I find it quite ironic acually if were all talking about WW2. America aids in helping the countries that colonised it and forced it to become a lot more economically powerful much faster if it was left alone.

Talk about balence in the force young skywalker.

I'll be right back with something cool.

"the strong do what they have the power to do and the weak accept what they have to accept"

If you really think we're arrogant, that's fine. We've got the power to back it up.

End thread.

We also have the finest prison system in the world.

Our inmates get free porn, videogames, food, healthcare and all the weight training they want.

At 3/23/07 01:23 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: ha without the US europe would still be under Nazi control and the UN would not have been established.

kudos to the US!

Ha, without europe the US would not exist at all. Beat you at your own game.

At 3/23/07 07:35 PM, Elfer wrote: Yeah guys, we all remember going through World War Two, and we all have strong feelings about it, but it's in the past now.

If you're going to discuss which country is the awesomest, concentrate on what is, not what once was.

yes but people like to focus on the past and take credit for it.

This thread has degenerated from a topic about arrogant Americans into proof of said statement. I came into this topic with an open mind, but Im being dragged round to the topic starters way of thinking.

"your hatred is evidence of our power".

God, I love these 2000 year old lines, sure do come in handy.....

Thanks Theukydicles!! My man!

At 3/25/07 04:57 PM, Memorize wrote: This is old, but whatever, I didn't see it.

At 3/10/07 07:47 AM, Boltrig wrote:

Get your facts right.

I never disputed that... whoo!

Yes you did. You blamed us for all of the bad Iraq intel, when GW was goin in anyway.

Great controversy emerged when no stockpiles of such weapons were found, leading to : accusations that the United States, and in particular its President George W. Bush had deliberately inflated intelligence or lied about Iraq's weapons in order to justify an invasion of the country. (same source)

Hahaha, my god, I didn't think your intelligence could sink any lower. It's funny, by that logic, all the other 40+ nations did the exact same thing. Also, as your link stated, it was to prevent Saddam from building or obtaining more, which we did, as those UN inspectors did say that altho he Saddam was turned down, he was trying to obtain them.

So youve now gone from blaming the UK for bad intel, to trying to say Americas intel was right. You already said you recieved your bad intel from us so youre chasing your tail on this one. Such a downward spiral of bullshit.

Haha, I love you idiots. You had the exact same look at the exact same information which all said the exact same thing. And what did you people do? You voted to go to war, but now that things have changed and fearing that you were "wrong", you're going to blame the one man known as George Bush and use him as a scapegoat.

Too many uses of the word exact. It clouds your point. Which is full of shit anyway. Tony Blair has been forced out of office because the public is unhappy with his leadership. The UK public is blaming the UK government for leading us into Iraq. That article, pertains to the US contribution. By no means should the UK escape its role in intel gathering, but if the US is the largest contributor to the coallition why shouldnt it bear the most scrutiny.

Case and point, mother fucker.

Yeah, your mother.

I dont see why you need to resort to name calling. It really doesnt put forward an image of intellegence. Mind you neither does your rhetoric.

At 3/25/07 05:40 PM, Imperator wrote:

"your hatred is evidence of our power".

God, I love these 2000 year old lines, sure do come in handy.....

Thanks Theukydicles!! My man!

I dont hate Americans, just mildly dislike the ones on this topic that think spewing insults and rhetoric is acceptable as a cohesive argument. I mean the original point was that the topic starter considers Americans to be the most arrogant people on the Earth, and rather than say something along the lines of "well some ruin it for the rest", they just slander and dredge up WW2. Real enlightened behaviour.

I think people asume America is arrogant is because it's media and movies make it this powerful all good nation that saves the world every single time and hasn't made any mistakes. If that is or isn't true you don't go around saying it in every fucking film you can.

Like the whole NCIS series.

For example, I went on youtube and watched this Fred Phelps thing and the narrator says something like
"God made America to be a wealthy and a religiously sound country. It was his beacon of life, hope and dreams etc etc hates fags etc etc"

No he didn't, the europeans did.

Even if the film was sick and 90% of America hated it, it still made me raise an eyebrow and say, wait what?

So America isn't arrogant, the movie industry is.

At 11/14/06 04:33 AM, Alphabit wrote: Americans have got to be the most arrogant people in the history of mankind.
I'm sick of hearing "We're the most powerful nation in the world," "our president is the most poweful man in the world," "our economy is the best in the world," "We have the best (insert word here)." Americans just can't stop boasting about how good they think they are.

This is partly why they are one of the most hated and isolated nations in the world.
They only have like 3 Major Allies; UK, Australia and Canada! LOL.

Compare that to Germany; France, Italy, UK, Russia, Spain, etc... (all Europan nations)

The US might be a powerful country, but they don't have many allies... In fact they have more enemies than Allies, even China has taken a dislike to the US.

The fact is that the US is just one powerful ship sailing through rough seas... And if they continue to abuse their priviledges, they will sink. They might be greater than any one country, but they're nowhere near as great as the rest of the world. They should stop acting as if they were king of the world because there is no such thing.

German is actually one of Our biggest Economic and Militarly Allies....so is Japan...You FUcking Moron....Jesus...After The Americans Rebuilt bothe Countires into the the 2 other Biggest Economies in the World....they owe us alot...and Fuck you..The french suck, I bet your french....heres how you say french....I SURRENDER I SURRENDER!!!!

At 3/27/07 11:32 AM, germansoldier555 wrote:

German is actually one of Our biggest Economic and Militarly Allies....so is Japan...You FUcking Moron....Jesus...After The Americans Rebuilt bothe Countires into the the 2 other Biggest Economies in the World....they owe us alot...and Fuck you..The french suck, I bet your french....heres how you say french....I SURRENDER I SURRENDER!!!!

Man you have issues. Ive not seen you post on this topic before so I'll let you in on a little knowledge. Randomly slandering other posters doesnt do much for the validity of your argument.

At 11/14/06 04:33 AM, Alphabit wrote:

This is partly why they are one of the most hated and isolated nations in the world.
They only have like 3 Major Allies; UK, Australia and Canada! LOL.

Compare that to Germany; France, Italy, UK, Russia, Spain, etc... (all Europan nations)

The US might be a powerful country, but they don't have many allies... In fact they have more enemies than Allies, even China has taken a dislike to the US.

sorry to correct you, but the US is actually allies with all those countries you listed other than China and Russia

Just as a follow up to my post at the top of this page, I checked my PM inbox today and found this skulking about the place.

From: Memorize
Sent: 3/25/07 5:00:01 PM
Subject: Haha, hello you fucking dumbshit!

It basicly then just re-iterates his last post.

Makes me think though, Memorize has become so dependent on attention from me that he is actually PMing me just to get a response. C'mon man surely you can wait till I respond on the BBS for your fix?

Theres no logic in trying to shoot down my argument via PM. Just makes you seem stalkery