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At 1/8/07 09:05 PM, Experiment wrote:

At 1/8/07 08:45 PM, yodd wrote:

Where's the French when you need them on the forum?

French, both canadian and from France are large haters of america

As opposed to us in America who when people visit we try to make everything acceptable to them, sometimes to try and come as close or better than the country they came from.

>_> Unless they are from a shitty country, fist nation countries have same technologies (with tiny excpetions of course) costs aren't all to far off, America has more expensive housing, and often times utilities, I fail to see how you guys make things better, unless it is a crap nation.

For Americans:
1) Visit another country, they expect you to respect their culture.

Other nations do respect, Americans are completely oblivious to where they are, they are rude, ignorant and arogant.

2) Visitors come to America expecting you to respect their culture.

Given, everyone expects people to respect their culture, but most aren't so assholish.

that's because idiots hate Bush. Why? War, plain and simple, regardless of the facts of it, as soon as someone sees a pint of blood, they get weak and pathetic and decide to leave.

Pointless war, Iraq is a pointless war, abusing power to get oil. And you know it, but won't admit it.

You're everyday existance seems to be based around America and it's Evils. So admit to your those countries having blind hatred.

I explained it isn't, can you explain how it is? WE wouldnt starve, we'd have technologies, we'd have everything but a gap in pop culture, whom half the people fail to care about. I would hate to have everyone hate my country as well, but its the way it is, our hatrid is not blind, and in fact we do not hate "americans" some americans can be nice people, we hate certain things about it.

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The schools here aren't to bad, it gets better in high school. (I think they should treat elementary and middle school more like they do high school.) But compared to other countries its defiantly lacking. The USA really needs to put away their ego and take notes on other education systems. I am fortunate enough to live in a state that generally has good schools but in some other areas they can be really bad.

If you ever wonder why Americans generally can't speak forgine languages its because forign language class' are horrible in the USA. They teach it in high school (way past the age where children learn other language easier) and most language teachers (mainly in middle schools) aren't certified to be teachers, hell some of them can't really even speak the language they are teaching.

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At 1/8/07 08:45 PM, yodd wrote:

At 1/8/07 08:26 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Its because the world WANTS to think Americans are idiots so they can feel better about the fact that in actuality we are superior to them in every way.

Superior in every way? thats laughable.

Dude how many times do I have to fucking school you?

America has the worlds most powerful, most technologically advanced and influential economy in the world. The US the worlds most powerful military, in fact, even according to British military studies, if all national militaries in the world faced the US in a conventional war, the US would win.

The US has the worlds most vibrant culture, political environment, and education system. In fact, the US has THE BEST education system in the world, regardless of what you fucking morons like to suggest to the contrary.

health wise, asians dominate

What?

The US has the most advanced healthcare system, medical science, and medical infrastucture in the world.

Our government just doesn't force other Americans to pay for less-well to do American's healthcare.

economically, americas resources run thin

No they don't you fucking moron. And the resources that Canada has, are basically all moderated by US companies. The US actually has VAST resources, but this means nothing in the modern world economy. Technology, services, and consumer development are the staple of a successfull country, and the US leads in these aspects. Natural resources in the US mean nothing when we control the resources IN YOUR COUNTRY.

America depends on China to manufacture

Not as much as China depends on the US to buy their cheap products. Almost ALL of CHina's economy revolves around the US market. But China-related business only makes up a small fraction of the US economy. In fact, the US has a bigger stake in Mexico than it does in China.

and Canada to supply the goods (iron, copper, gold etc.)

Which we basically control anyways. And we have plenty of steel anyhow.

But the US has more coal than every other country, and that will be fucking important once oil runs out.

politically, no matter how much you think >_> you guys suck.

Um the US is the most powerful political entity in the world. Just because brainwashed teenagers around the world hate America and thing that we 'suck' doesn't mean their government isn't political bound to the US. Your misguided opinions have no bearing in reality. Your hatred for the US is just your childish pass time to salvage your dignity and maintain your fragile national pride.

The US has control or influence over every major economy in the world. There is not ONE single successful economy that doesn't have vast cooperation with the US. Japan, Germany, UK, France, Italy, Russia, China and yes CANADA, all rely heavily on the US banking systems, trade cooperation, and US investment, much more so than the US does on them.

The "ignorance" towards america is because of a few tings. Europeans hate the first one.
1) lack of help in world wars.
It is a known fact that americas roles in world wars were dull, they did bad in WWI and all they did in second was fight Japan because japan wanted more land.

Dude you're just being fucking stupid again. The allies were losing in WWI until the US joined. But the US gave the majority of equipment the allies used since the BEGINNING of the war.

In WWII the US was THE ONLY country to fight in EVERY THEATER of the war. And the US single handedly defeated the Japanese, and lead the campaign against Italy and Germany. The US provided the vast majority of weapons, equipment, fuel, supplies to France, UK, and Russia.

Yes, even the Russians that morons like you think did the most of the work couldn't even fight without the US giving them all of their supplies and PAYING THE FUCKING BILL.

And even though the US payed all the bills, the US was responsible for the vast majority of ground reclaimed from the axis and other strategic victories, while stupid countries like UK and Canada couldn't even command their own troops anymore, supply them, and had to rely on the US controlling EVERYTHING to ensure victory.

The Russians, Brits, French and the rest of the allies all would have been defeated in WWII if the US didn't assist them, PERIOD. Thats a simple fact, anyone who suggests other wise (like your dumb ass) is either biased, a liar, or is uneducated to the point of ignorance.

2) Americas lack of knowlege

Do we have to go over this again. Americans have more education than Europeans, and Canadians. Americans just however know less about current geopolitical events.

Canadians scored lower than Americans on EVERY SINGLE SUBJECT.

lets see, I mentioned as to why everyone hates you, and ask ay america haters, those ARE THE REASONS, plus more. Our whole existence does not rely on the US.

Yeah it does

Now America does play a big role into our lives, but that is because trade.

And culture, and defense, and political support, and everything else imaginiable.

Japan technologically are becoming superior to everyone

Um are you unaware of the fact that almost every major company in Japan is subsidized or affiliated with American companies?

The US has a monopoly on the Japanese technological fields. And most Japanese science and research is funded by or in cooperation with American universities.

it is a fact within the next 15 years they will dominate in all technologies.

Um they already dominate in consumer technology development, but the US is a close second, but still is responsible for the Japanese breakthroughs.

And by the way, who is Japan's biggest ally? Who is responsible for Japan's defense? The US.

Food and resources- USA does help, but everyone would be fine without you.

Thats what they say until they need the US to save their asses, give them aide, protect them, invest in their economy and so forth.

Canada is the largest producer of wheat, flax, barley, canola etc. And some of the largest producers, if not largest of beef, chicken, pork. And biggest producer of fish. Fruits and vergetables would be a bit of an issue (well just fruit) but any tropical fruit we can't grow is grown in otehr places of the world.

That is fucking meaningless you little 15 year old moron. Agricultural output means next to nothing these days to determine the success of a country.

Look at Japan they have almost no resources and no agricultural output yet they are the 2nd most powerful economy in the world due to their business, technological, and market tenacity.

I know you can't face the fact your country is hated, but it really is and there is nothing you can do about it. Our every day existence is based around us.

The US is both loved and hated. If Canada was as powerful as the US (hahaha what a thought) they would be hated by everyone.

People are intimidated and jealous of America's power, and predominance in all aspects of the modern world. This clouds people's judgement and causes people to unfairly depict America for political gains against America.

But the thing is, I don't care that morons in other countries hate my country. I'm not an insecure, pathetic Canadian like you that has to judge your country on the opinions of foreigners.

I KNOW my country is better because I've been to over 20 other countries and have seen them by contrast. I've seen their distorted media, their weak economies, their inferior EVERYTHING. People in Europe are massively misinformed and indoctrinated with irrational hatred for the US by their media and governments. This is just an attempt to salvage national identity and dignity, meanwhile the US dominates them culturally, economically, politically, and militarily and they have to LIE, about the US and deny their own problems to pretend otherwise.

The US has the top 2 universities in the world, 7 of the top 10 universities, 13 of the top 20, 39 of the top 50, and 74 of the top 100 universities in the world.

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At 1/9/07 12:08 AM, MARINE wrote: The american education system is horrible. I Sleep through class and i still pass. Pretty messed up.

Thats public education buddy.

Just because you are a horrible student doesn't mean that people around you can't excel

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At 1/8/07 09:22 PM, yodd wrote:

French, both canadian and from France are large haters of america

And everyone is a France hater.

>_> Unless they are from a shitty country, fist nation countries have same technologies (with tiny excpetions of course) costs aren't all to far off, America has more expensive housing, and often times utilities, I fail to see how you guys make things better, unless it is a crap nation.

Really, care to tell me what kind of accommodation those little nations will provide?

Other nations do respect, Americans are completely oblivious to where they are, they are rude, ignorant and arogant.
Given, everyone expects people to respect their culture, but most aren't so assholish.

Kind of like you.

Pointless war, Iraq is a pointless war, abusing power to get oil. And you know it, but won't admit it.

Opinion, that's too bad. And you're pathetic and weak, just like most of America.

I explained it isn't, can you explain how it is?

I didn't say you couldn't. but it seems you have nothing better to do with your worthless life.

we hate certain things about it.

haha, this is funny. Recognize your own problems, then focus your populace's attention to the problems of the world's superpower. That's one thing i'll give them, they know how to divert their citizen's attention from their own problems, and it works.

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At 1/9/07 12:08 AM, MARINE wrote: The american education system is horrible. I Sleep through class and i still pass. Pretty messed up.

And Einstein flunked math. Your point proves jack friggin shit.

Because in these films they say alomst every single information at least 3 times, they explain even the most basic things, and they fluff these movies length around 3 times longer it should be to tell the informations

The reason is because repetition has been shown to help retention and memorization. It's a proven teaching study method backed by psych research. Repeating it actually makes us retain the information more accurately and for longer periods of time without needing to be refreshed.

Yeah, I don't like Australian education either; It's too fast paced... Nothing has real depth. In European nations; kids are encouraged to explore in-depth.

I actually think that's a fair assesment of American edu as well. The sheer volume of information is incredible. My brother learned stuff in grade school that I was learning in high school! My parents tell of similar stories, meaning that teachers are cramming more and more shit into the school year without extending it much.

That's why Europe is so ace... Although the education system here in Britain is crap up until A-Level (age 16-18) then it's awesome.

Some damn good universities over there.

Teachers are the problem too. If teachers would stop focusing more on how much money that they get in their pockets and focused more on actually DOING THEIR JOBS *coughteachingcough*, then MAYBE our students would get a better education

I don't think that's fair at all. Teachers, firemen, and police are vastly underpaid and underappreciated. Teachers make barely above minimum wage in some places, and not much more after that. I doubt there are very many teachers who are there for the money....cause frankly it isn't there!

Your link must contain a typo, because it lead me to some Japanese (or Chinese, Korean etc.) page. But I beive that your high-education is very good, I didn't open this topic to criticise THAT.

In any case, and for those intereste, I think this is the source he meant.

http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2005/ARWU2005_Top1 00.htm

It's a Japanese study showing the top 100 universities in the world. I'm not sure how credible it is, but I haven't seen any studies out contradicting this one, so it can't be terrible.

The US occupies 20 out of the top 25 in the world, including mine at #21 :)
The US occupies 8 out of the top 10, and Harvard is considered the best in the world.

I find it odd/fascinating/ironic that for as bad as everyone says our science and math and such programs are, slots 3,4, and 5 are occupied by Universities which are known for scientific research.....

sports? not north america, Norway a country of less than 8 million has won the winter olypicis tons, and canada even tied america this year, despite major size difference.

NORWAY winning the WINTER Olympics. Gee, BIG surprise there!! That's like saying it's a shock Brazil didn't win the water polo competiton, or bobsledding.......

economically, americas resources run thin, America depends on China to manufacture, and Canada to supply the goods (iron, copper, gold etc.)

Despite a massive debt, 2 wars, and recessions, we're still here, and we're still strong. Guess that's a testament to our political negotiatons?

politically, no matter how much you think >_> you guys suck.

Maybe not! Last I checked, my country is still the only global Superpower. And we didn't get that way by conquering every country on the globe.......must be our dashing good looks.....

It is a known fact that americas roles in world wars were dull, they did bad in WWI and all they did in second was fight Japan because japan wanted more land.

What history books are you reading? Americans were in North Africa, Italy, the Pacific, the Atlantic, Britain, France, and Germany. We were in every theater of combat, minus the Eastern front. And we STILL helped the Ruskos out through supplies and lend-lease agreements!

You know what, I'm gonna stop and refer you to THIS thread given your profile information........

Japan technologically are becoming superior to everyone, it is a fact within the next 15 years they will dominate in all technologies.

Their population is aging and they are going to have a massive labor shortage and recession in 15 years. I just took a class on Japan, so I'm gonna claim to be more up to date on this than you.

TONIGHT ON NEWGROUNDS, cellardoor speaks shit he does not know about, he thinks people are like rocks and have no mind for their own. TUNE IN

You read that thread about the Knowledge of 15 year olds yet? Get on it yodd....

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At 11/13/06 11:39 AM, TheMason wrote:

At 11/12/06 01:38 PM, Altarus wrote:

At 11/12/06 07:00 AM, Sir-S-Of-ROFL wrote:

At 11/12/06 06:36 AM, Istentelen wrote: I really hope it's just a rumor!

There was some schools that taught that Evolution was just a theory and that the christian way was the most likely but i think that was taken out fairly quick.

Source?

I don't know where you're from Altarus, but the evolution-creation debate was huge in the US media last Spring because some schools were altering their Science cirriculum to include creationism. I mean I was in Korea at the time and still heard about it on the Armed Forces Network. Therefore it should be common knowledge to any American who has a better memory than a goldfish and therefore does not require a source...

The part that got me was the part was he claimed that schools were teaching that the Christian way was more likely. Putting stickers on books saying that students should keep an open mind and openly indoctrinating students into the Christian religion are very very different.

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At 1/8/07 11:42 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

Dude how many times do I have to fucking school you?

America has the worlds most powerful, most technologically advanced and influential economy in the world. The US the worlds most powerful military, in fact, even according to British military studies, if all national militaries in the world faced the US in a conventional war, the US would win.

Give me a fuckin source on that, lol, Theres no way america could take on the whole world.
America is by far the most powerful military but NOOO way could they face the entire world.
What was americas last large scale war. Vietnam. A war in which the most powerful an most advanced military couldn't succesfully beat a 3rd world army.
Of course there were many reasons why america failed, But there have been similar wars not as large on scale but similar which were won.
Also America hasn't actually faced a proffesional modern army since world war 2

The US has the worlds most vibrant culture, political environment, and education system. In fact, the US has THE BEST education system in the world, regardless of what you fucking morons like to suggest to the contrary.

lol don't be so biased, Only an ignorant cunt like yourself could make statments like that.
What do you mean about vibrant culture, I'd say places like spain have more vibrant cultures with there dancing an there carnivals, In my eyes americas more similar to the countries of the british iles, Pubbin, clubbin, binge drinkin, ravin an doin drugs lol
And your education system isn;t the best, I'm not sure about UK allthough I expect it is, places like Japan have incredible education systems far superior to are ones.

The US has the most advanced healthcare system, medical science, and medical infrastucture in the world.

Again I wouldn't say they do, New medical discoverys and succes rates are as frequent in many of the rich countries as they are in america. Get some sources before you make stupid statements.

Our government just doesn't force other Americans to pay for less-well to do American's healthcare.

Luckily for you, your rich, The american healthcare is good for the rich, But poor people can't afford to have checkups or free dental care and if they need to go to the hospital they get a
hefty bill. In Britain we have the NHS which is payed through taxes and is maybe not as good as american healthcare its extremely good and everyone recives it. The more wealthy people in Britain can go to private hospital orginisations which are just as good as american healthcare.

Um the US is the most powerful political entity in the world. Just because brainwashed teenagers around the world hate America and thing that we 'suck' doesn't mean their government isn't political bound to the US. Your misguided opinions have no bearing in reality. Your hatred for the US is just your childish pass time to salvage your dignity and maintain your fragile national pride.

What is this about dignity, You keep bringing this up as if everyone in every other country should be ashamed of there country. It seems your trying to salvage your dignity in america.

The US has control or influence over every major economy in the world. There is not ONE single successful economy that doesn't have vast cooperation with the US. Japan, Germany, UK, France, Italy, Russia, China and yes CANADA, all rely heavily on the US banking systems, trade cooperation, and US investment, much more so than the US does on them.

And in turn America relies extensivly on other countrys. Take the EU for example, Similar size in everyway. Both economys rely on each other near enough the same they both equal 25% of the worlds economy each. actually more like EU 26% an america 25%. And if anything the US relies on the EU more than the EU relies on the US (allthough by such a small margin its irrelivant)
Yea we all have Mcdonalds and Coca Cola But you also have VW, Addidas, Reebok ect.
Both the EU economy and US economy has the same influence on the world.

Dude you're just being fucking stupid again. The allies were losing in WWI until the US joined. But the US gave the majority of equipment the allies used since the BEGINNING of the war.

Mate for fucks sake, I've fucked ruled you before on this topic, America was no more important to the outcome of the war than the British commonwealth or the russians.

Yes, even the Russians that morons like you think did the most of the work couldn't even fight without the US giving them all of their supplies and PAYING THE FUCKING BILL.

The russians did do most of the work you twat, They inflicted far far more casulties than America did you twat. Yes america gave them supplies, But In that case your beloved revelotionry war was won by the french because they supplied you.

Also the commonwealth was in every theater as well. so your talkin bollocks again.

And even though the US payed all the bills, the US was responsible for the vast majority of ground reclaimed from the axis and other strategic victories, while stupid countries like UK and Canada couldn't even command their own troops anymore, supply them, and had to rely on the US controlling EVERYTHING to ensure victory.

lol fuckin bollocks.
the British Commonwealth were responsible for the success in Africa, the Atlantic, the Meditteranean, Middle east, parts of Asia, Italy and sicily and had a huge role in the western front.
So no the US wasn't responsible for the 'vast majority' of land gained and strategic victories.

The Russians, Brits, French and the rest of the allies all would have been defeated in WWII if the US didn't assist them, PERIOD. Thats a simple fact, anyone who suggests other wise (like your dumb ass) is either biased, a liar, or is uneducated to the point of ignorance.

lol, your so fuckin Ignorant an Blind to reality.

The french were defeated for a start you twat and Britain stood alone and succesfully defeating Hitlers Luffwaffe and thwarting his invasion attempts, Hitler then concentrated on russia. So we 'Brits' were saved because of the RAF and by Hitlers stupid desicion to invade russia.

I think Russia probably would of fallen if it wasn't for the allies opening up a second front, Allthough some people would argue with that because russia was in someways getting the upper hand.
But also Theres no way the allies could of invaded europe if hitler hadn't of invaded russia. Without Russia, Europe would of definitly fallen. Without america Europe probably would of fallen. Without Britain europe probably would of fallen.

All in all Russia, the Commonwealth and the US played equally important parts in the victory.

I KNOW my country is better because I've been to over 20 other countries and have seen them by contrast. I've seen their distorted media, their weak economies, their inferior EVERYTHING. People in Europe are massively misinformed and indoctrinated with irrational hatred for the US by their media and governments. This is just an attempt to salvage national identity and dignity, meanwhile the US dominates them culturally, economically, politically, and militarily and they have to LIE, about the US and deny their own problems to pretend otherwise.

Thats your opinion, I've been to america, and I thought the quality of things wasn;t at such a high standard, the media in america treats everything like americas the only place on earth.
People in america don;t have much knolege on the world outside of america. I am suprised you think european mefia is distorted compared to america who seem to be in there own little america world.

The US has the top 2 universities in the world,

Apparently the top 3 universitys in the world are

1.Harvard
2.Cambridge
3.Oxford

Although different sources change dramatically some being heavily biased on british or american.

Anyway I know america has some of the top universitys in the world as does britain.
But I don't belive america has the best educational system.

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At 1/8/07 11:42 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: The US has the worlds most vibrant culture, political environment, and education system. In fact, the US has THE BEST education system in the world, regardless of what you fucking morons like to suggest to the contrary.

University-level, sure. Before that...? Well, don't we rank close to last among developing nations for youth literacy levels? I don't claim to be johnny-on-the-spot with links and statistics for this, but I'm fairly sure of this. I think it's the same for maths and science as well. Our top-scorers may beat out the top-scorers elsewhere, but on average, we're pretty weak.

That is fucking meaningless you little 15 year old moron. Agricultural output means next to nothing these days to determine the success of a country.

Sure... until you don't have it...

Look at Japan they have almost no resources and no agricultural output yet they are the 2nd most powerful economy in the world due to their business, technological, and market tenacity.

Japan has enough Agricultural output to sustain itself (if it needed). No country can gain enough economic oomph without that. To say that agriculture is meaningless in todays world is ignorant of you. And, as much as I despise most of your stances, ignorance is not usually one of your flaws.

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I realised I said 'You twat' alot in that last post. lol

I apologise

but you are a bit of a cunt

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At 1/8/07 08:52 PM, TightRope wrote: jews own america and intend to dumb us down, its this system you speak of, jews are "the man".

OMGZ! JEWSES!

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At 1/8/07 11:42 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Dude how many times do I have to fucking school you?

America has the worlds most powerful, most technologically advanced and influential economy in the world. The US the worlds most powerful military, in fact, even according to British military studies, if all national militaries in the world faced the US in a conventional war, the US would win.

Give me a source, just like all information you claim to know, it is bullshit and or questionable fact, yes you are "technology" leaders, but htat doesnt make you better in every way does it? Nope.

The US has the worlds most vibrant culture, political environment, and education system. In fact, the US has THE BEST education system in the world, regardless of what you fucking morons like to suggest to the contrary.

Give me a link, USA has worst knowlege of other nations, proven fact. Also, if it is so good, why is Japans IQ almost 25 points higher? It is obviously not the best when you dont know what a wisconsin is in when it is in your own country.

health wise, asians dominate

What?

The US has the most advanced healthcare system, medical science, and medical infrastucture in the world.

Your technologies are the same as anywhere, but as for best medical system... Studies have shown that Scandonavian countries have THE best medical system, followed by Canada. Fact, America pays more money for citezens at hospital per person than canada? Your medical system is obviosuly shit when ours is free, yet you pay more. Wait times, the average patient ready for surgery waits 2 days more, so cancer patients would have to wait on average 2 days more for chemo/radiation. On another note, USA medical does not go well for your vast amounts of poor people, given they don't have 90$ to pay for stitches.

Our government just doesn't force other Americans to pay for less-well to do American's healthcare.

.....go die

No they don't you fucking moron. And the resources that Canada has, are basically all moderated by US companies. The US actually has VAST resources, but this means nothing in the modern world economy. Technology, services, and consumer development are the staple of a successfull country, and the US leads in these aspects. Natural resources in the US mean nothing when we control the resources IN YOUR COUNTRY.

About 42% of our resources are owned by American corporations, but America still pays for the goods and all. US companies bought out canadian ones in the last few years (well 20) in many aspects, still the government of Canada could make it Canadian again if we wanted to (but that would cause a pointless ruccuss). America was so needy with their lacking resources, they sent millions to change to their company os trade would be less expensive.

Not as much as China depends on the US to buy their cheap products. Almost ALL of CHina's economy revolves around the US market. But China-related business only makes up a small fraction of the US economy. In fact, the US has a bigger stake in Mexico than it does in China.

I used china as an example, like everyone always does. Or should I say CHina? China needs people around the world to buy their goods to keep running "Strong" however we all know communism sucks and so they aren't running strong to begin with >_>

and Canada to supply the goods (iron, copper, gold etc.)

Which we basically control anyways. And we have plenty of steel anyhow.

(Iron, copper gold) used as examples, steel is made with iron, but iron is needed in other things, but my point is your resources are dry compared to ours. Owned by you? 42% of resources are by other nations, 39% America (most of the rest Germany, Shell owns alot of crude oil).

But the US has more coal than every other country, and that will be fucking important once oil runs out.

Yes, your right, in 50 years or so when oil is thin coal will be important, but that is in 50 years, I bet any money that oil production will turn into hydro wind power, water power etc. Canada has more resources, and without Canada you guys would suck. Fact: USA gets 100% of their Uranium from Canada, and about 94% of their amterials they use on bombs, without Canada your military would be ground forces. Russia and other Asian countries are the only other places with uranium.

Um the US is the most powerful political entity in the world. Just because brainwashed teenagers around the world hate America and thing that we 'suck' doesn't mean their government isn't political bound to the US. Your misguided opinions have no bearing in reality. Your hatred for the US is just your childish pass time to salvage your dignity and maintain your fragile national pride.

Oh cellardoor6, the worst BBS poster nominee, the one most users hate. About 1/5 of American citizens hate president Bush, this includes more than teens, anyone with more than half a brain. WHat you got to say? Shattered national pride? Canada has 4th highest national pride, after Australia (whos number one) and US (number 2) England, Italy. I hardly find something with such high national pride "shattered". And I love how when you get frustrated you just throw in some words calling me a fag, shows how well you can control your self esteem in an arguement.

The US has control or influence over every major economy in the world. There is not ONE single successful economy that doesn't have vast cooperation with the US. Japan, Germany, UK, France, Italy, Russia, China and yes CANADA, all rely heavily on the US banking systems, trade cooperation, and US investment, much more so than the US does on them.

US relies heaviest on US. And yes, you guys do help lots and we do rely on you, which I ALREADY AGREED ON, it is true we rely on your banking systems and all that mumbo-jumbo.

The "ignorance" towards america is because of a few tings. Europeans hate the first one.
1) lack of help in world wars.
It is a known fact that americas roles in world wars were dull, they did bad in WWI and all they did in second was fight Japan because japan wanted more land.

Dude you're just being fucking stupid again. The allies were losing in WWI until the US joined. But the US gave the majority of equipment the allies used since the BEGINNING of the war.

Equipment helps lots, I read war novels all the time, US efforts were slim. Call me fucking stupid all you want, but I won you all the time.

In WWII the US was THE ONLY country to fight in EVERY THEATER of the war. And the US single handedly defeated the Japanese, and lead the campaign against Italy and Germany. The US provided the vast majority of weapons, equipment, fuel, supplies to France, UK, and Russia.

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In world war 2, US fought japan, which was a fight over land. When you guys went into Europe, the red army was defeated and germany had no hope in hell of winning. America was like those people you hate for not shwing up at the wedding, but showing up at the party.

Yes, even the Russians that morons like you think did the most of the work couldn't even fight without the US giving them all of their supplies and PAYING THE FUCKING BILL.

US supplied guns, but not even the most, China supplied over 70%, and russians also hate yu and think you did nothing, when I went to Moscow on my moms buisness trip, these three men said "are you American, because if you are we are going to have to ask you to get out". We responded "we're Canadian", and they sat down and talked to us. You obviosuly don't know how much your country is hated.

And even though the US payed all the bills, the US was responsible for the vast majority of ground reclaimed from the axis and other strategic victories, while stupid countries like UK and Canada couldn't even command their own troops anymore, supply them, and had to rely on the US controlling EVERYTHING to ensure victory.

100% bullshit posted on BBS, come watch 100% bullshit!

The Russians, Brits, French and the rest of the allies all would have been defeated in WWII if the US didn't assist them, PERIOD. Thats a simple fact, anyone who suggests other wise (like your dumb ass) is either biased, a liar, or is uneducated to the point of ignorance.

As I said before, red army was defeated and there was no hope in hell, sorry.

2) Americas lack of knowlege

Canadians scored lower than Americans on EVERY SINGLE SUBJECT.

It was based on an IQ test, where america score 0.4 higher on average, the mojority of IQ test questions are based on problem solving! canadians are known to know more history, and be good travellors

lets see, I mentioned as to why everyone hates you, and ask ay america haters, those ARE THE REASONS, plus more. Our whole existence does not rely on the US.

Yeah it does

Whatever makes you happy ;)

Now America does play a big role into our lives, but that is because trade.

And culture, and defense, and political support, and everything else imaginiable.

Culture, yes. Defence, not needed from you to, haha. Everything else... you just cant name more, wonder why...

Japan technologically are becoming superior to everyone

Um are you unaware of the fact that almost every major company in Japan is subsidized or affiliated with American companies?

Not the Car companies, electronic compaines or engineering in anyway, so no. All sony, honda, acura etc. products are Japanese, not american.

The US has a monopoly on the Japanese technological fields. And most Japanese science and research is funded by or in cooperation with American universities.

Japanese have enough to fund their own. And us has none of their technology advancements.

it is a fact within the next 15 years they will dominate in all technologies.

Um they already dominate in consumer technology development, but the US is a close second, but still is responsible for the Japanese breakthroughs.

Just like Germany is responsible for all of americas before 1950. And US is close, but falling behind faster and faster.

And by the way, who is Japan's biggest ally? Who is responsible for Japan's defense? The US.

And that has so much to do with technological leader how?

Food and resources- USA does help, but everyone would be fine without you.

Thats what they say until they need the US to save their asses, give them aide, protect them, invest in their economy and so forth.

USA is no longer needed to save asses, but rather abuse power. Aid? rofl. invest in Economy, okay thats true.

That is fucking meaningless you little 15 year old moron. Agricultural output means next to nothing these days to determine the success of a country.

Your fucking stupid 20 year old asshole. Agricultural output has to do with we can survive without US of A, like how you said we cant live without!

Look at Japan they have almost no resources and no agricultural output yet they are the 2nd most powerful economy in the world due to their business, technological, and market tenacity.

Power of trade.

I know you can't face the fact your country is hated, but it really is and there is nothing you can do about it. Our every day existence is based around us.

The US is both loved and hated. If Canada was as powerful as the US (hahaha what a thought) they would be hated by everyone.

Canada hated by everyone, no we don't abuse power, travel to Europe they will say nice htings abou Canadian people over American people. Canada can't be as powerful as USA because size does matter (in population).

People are intimidated and jealous of America's power, and predominance in all aspects of the modern world. This clouds people's judgement and causes people to unfairly depict America for political gains against America.

I'm going to pull a cellardoor6. Your a fucking moron, see I to can make stupid remarks.

But the thing is, I don't care that morons in other countries hate my country. I'm not an insecure, pathetic Canadian like you that has to judge your country on the opinions of foreigners.

Call me what you want, I just one. And for the record, insulting me non-stop won't mke you any more right, it just shows that you are immature in political arguements.

The US has the top 2 universities in the world, 7 of the top 10 universities, 13 of the top 20, 39 of the top 50, and 74 of the top 100 universities in the world.

Universities, also made a century ago do not depict intelligence. And as I check the book, oops, oxford university is the highest, located in England. And whats this USA has 3 in the top 10? more questionable fact from you.

Good day.

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At 1/9/07 12:41 AM, Imperator wrote: thread about 15 year olds? Go take a look yodd.

MY GOD, aren't you cool. Basing my age on how good I am at politcs and sending me to a bullsit thread instead of responding. Yep, all your facts were the same as cellardoors, the world hates you live with it I am going hunting bye. All you are is over patriotic americans who can't face the fact your country is hated by all the other top countries citizens.

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At 1/9/07 05:05 PM, yodd wrote:

At 1/9/07 12:41 AM, Imperator wrote: thread about 15 year olds? Go take a look yodd.

MY GOD, aren't you cool. Basing my age on how good I am at politcs and sending me to a bullsit thread instead of responding. Yep, all your facts were the same as cellardoors, the world hates you live with it I am going hunting bye. All you are is over patriotic americans who can't face the fact your country is hated by all the other top countries citizens.

Shut up little kid. You're from Saskatchewan. End of argument. You're about as appreciated by the rest of Canada as Mississippi is by the rest of the US.

Back on topic (finally, after yodd fianlly grows up and cellar stops beating off all over the BBS)

This explains everything. The American education system is only as good as the people who go through it. In my experience that gives lower education a rough image. But hey, as long as it is more important to smoke pot and skip class and fuck around, than to give class at least just a second thought, the system will never recover. I blame it on the uneducated rich.

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At 1/9/07 05:05 PM, yodd wrote:

MY GOD, aren't you cool. Basing my age on how good I am at politcs and sending me to a bullsit thread instead of responding.

Well, you are showing your age.

All you are is over patriotic americans who can't face the fact your country is hated by all the other top countries citizens.

We're facing the facts. And I don't disagree with other nations hating us, I just find them stupid for hating us for "bullshit" reasons. =)

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We're facing the facts. And I don't disagree with other nations hating us, I just find them
stupid for hating us for "bullshit" reasons. =)

I find them stupid for their contradictions.

All Americans are fat. (Except for all our gold winning Olympians, sports teams, and other 40% of the population.)

All Americans are lazy. (Except for the immense industrial output we are well known for, and the fact that studies have shown that Americans are working longer harder days than ever. Not to mention the sheer amount of economic wealth our country possesses. We don't grow Money Trees here.....)

All Americans are stupid. (Except for all those who graduate from world reknown Universities that are the envy of the world. And the fact that we've managed to remain the world's only Superpower for some time now, despite economic crashes, recessions, failed wars, and bad policies).

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At 1/9/07 05:31 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Shut up little kid. You're from Saskatchewan. End of argument. You're about as appreciated by the rest of Canada as Mississippi is by the rest of the US.

My location makes me not wanted by Canada? Wow you really are dumb! Sask leads in many resources. Anyway, I will end this argument.

To person above, yes americans are to stereotyped.

Americans aren't all fat, in fact many good athletes come from there, but understand that you are the fattest nation and you guys need to recognize it.

Americans aren't lazy (well in working sense, you guys are more sit at home on TV thing, but that isn't the point). Yes america does have many lazy people (many of the states that are backwards and are in huge poverty, Missispi, Arkansaw, and yes I know I spelled them wrong. As for working, America has a good attitude, cream rises to the top, so anyone working hard gets rewarded well, thats why america has so many rich inovaters that drive the economy.

I agree with you, we stereotype to much, but than again everyone does that to everyone.
Americans aren't dumb. Americas IQ is 0.4 higher than Canada, but that was based on problem solving (what IQ tests really are). Yes you have many nice colleges, but on that note collages don't say how smart a nation is, but how wealthy and it is in technologgy. Americans on the contrast aren't dumb, they exceed past most (Asia as exception of course) in math and writing skills. Americnas aren't dumb

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At 1/9/07 06:12 PM, yodd wrote:

Americans aren't all fat, in fact many good athletes come from there, but understand that you are the fattest nation and you guys need to recognize it.

We do recognize it. It's not our fault you people are poor.

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I don't think America could take on the entire world, but I did want to clear one little thing up:

At 1/9/07 03:20 AM, tawc wrote:

Give me a fuckin source on that, lol, Theres no way america could take on the whole world.
America is by far the most powerful military but NOOO way could they face the entire world.
What was americas last large scale war. Vietnam. A war in which the most powerful an most advanced military couldn't succesfully beat a 3rd world army.

American casualties in Vietnam: 58,159
NVA/Viet Cong casualties: 660,000

Seems pretty successful to me.

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At 1/9/07 06:45 PM, MightyMightyKirk wrote:

Seems pretty successful to me.

Because they don't care about how many of them die. But we went there to stop the spread of communism from invading into Southern Vietnam and we were successful to stop that. But the agreement was that North Vietnam would not invade the South again, but they did and we did nothing about due to the whiny liberals of that time staging massive protest around the country.

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At 1/9/07 06:47 PM, Experimental wrote:

At 1/9/07 06:45 PM, MightyMightyKirk wrote:

Seems pretty successful to me.

Because they don't care about how many of them die. But we went there to stop the spread of communism from invading into Southern Vietnam and we were successful to stop that. But the agreement was that North Vietnam would not invade the South again, but they did and we did nothing about due to the whiny liberals of that time staging massive protest around the country.

I agree with you totally, but the point was made about Americas military power. I meant strictly power-wise, we were more successful than many people think.

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I think the perspective of the outsider is of a negative polarity by default because of the media. We either see the inner-city school with metal detectors or the backwards, backwater schools of the deep south. As a Canadian, I did think so as well in the past.

Having benefited from the honour of a partial scholarship in the US, I can attest to the country's passion and quality of education. Useless bashing of the United States is so totally unwarranted, especially in this case.

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At 1/9/07 06:59 PM, chocolate-penguin wrote: It's not what they teach. It's just they are too easy on kids and lower almost every standard there is to lower constantly.

Also, in middle school high school it is so easy to fuck your life from the most simple things. Get an F in one class, flunk? Bye college, bye a 50,000 dollar a year job. Maybe if you're lucky the Mexicans will let you work with them.

I have to disagree on this one. I dropped out of high school sophmore year (10th grade), because I was a stupid, apathetic stoner/loser. I later got my shit together and got a GED and joined the military. I went to a community college and now have a job with a salary of $76,000/year.

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At 1/9/07 06:45 PM, Experimental wrote: We do recognize it. It's not our fault you people are poor.

Canada, a nation with pretty much the same technologies for average citizen, less povery, yep we're poor.

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Insulting each other isn't exactly the best way to resolve our differences. Your points are valid, backed up with opinion, and of course reasonable, but don't forget you're on an American forum; which of course has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

As for schools, the crappiness level depends on:

1) Neighborhood
2) Funding
3) Willingness to learn

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At 11/12/06 07:00 AM, Sir-S-Of-ROFL wrote:

At 11/12/06 06:36 AM, Istentelen wrote: I really hope it's just a rumor!

There was some schools that taught that Evolution was just a theory and that the christian way was the most likely but i think that was taken out fairly quick.

Other than that, don't trust american education.

Luckilly for me i live in a majorly jewish community, my edjewmacation owns. [long island] and my highschool is one of the best public high schools in the country.

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At 1/9/07 09:39 PM, yodd wrote:

At 1/9/07 06:45 PM, Experimental wrote: We do recognize it. It's not our fault you people are poor.

Canada, a nation with pretty much the same technologies for average citizen, less povery, yep we're poor.

Key Word: Pretty Much.

Excellent choice of words there, kiddie. Careful, your age is showing.

But lets compare. The United States: 12.7% Canada: 15.9% (according to the CIA World Factbook-altho it's rather funny as it states here that you have no Official poverty line... FactBook

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Many people wrote here that the USA has (one of) the gretest science power. I can't argue with that, but about half of the scientists working there are from other lands - mostly Europe. And the "brain-sucking" has nothing to do with the education.
Some interesting facts: the developer of the nuclear bomb (Ede Teller) , and the developer of computer (John von Neumann) werent Americans too.

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I saw on Oprah something about ghetto schools. Is it true that in poor regions, the statefunded schools are of less quality? Or was it a "black thing." That she was having another " zomg they discriminate" illusion?