Americans are losing their identity

[Jivan]

Americans are losing their identity in these 3 decades. The condition is worsen from years to years. Most likely because of the "invasion" of Asia cultures. As an American (though i'm now living in an Asia country) we must try our best to preserve our own culture and dun accept other foreigner's culture which will eventually make us forget who we are.

After watching many Chinese's martial art movie(jackie Chan, Jet li, Shaolin temple) American tends to be mesmerised by it. Other see them like example and want to imitate them. Don't forget, we are not Chinese. Would you want to abandon our race and convert into other race just because of those silly impression? Wake up.

Why did we have to follow other races' culture? Would you like to see our youngsters only engross in Kung Fu, Japanimation? Are American's own culture bad, unacceptable?

Globalisation and many Asian American are the causes of this crisis. I'm not condemning these races nor a racist, but to remind my fellow American friend, do not forget who you are. You have to respect other races, but this doesn't mean that you can assimilate their culture.

Be a true and real American.

[LightMemories]

Good words my friend........good words......

By the way,i went to where u live for a holiday..........
Just cross the causeway & drive a few hours......

[VigilanteNighthawk]

You are too worried about this. Cultures everywhere are not static. They are always changing and adapting. Look at the culture of the 1950's and compare it to that of the 1850's. There are many differences. Hell, the ideal of masculinity was a man who was thin and not muscular from a combination of hard mental work from running his business and discipline so that he did not over indulge. Such a man would be considered weak and nerdy by today's standards.

American culture has often oscillated between two extremes, that of assimilating from other cultures and that of outright rejection. Many of our modern traditions, though, would not have been formed if not from assimilating other culture's elements into our own. Columbus day comes from Italian Americans. Halloween comes from the Irish. We are a nation of immigrants, and most of our traditions and values can be traced overseas.

Though our culture may be changed, it will still retain a unique character. Often, what you get when two cultures meet is a hybrid of both. In this case of assimiliating ideas from other cultures, the idea being assimilated is usually is interpretted through the lens of the assimilating culture. In the case of the United States, what you'll end up with is an Americanized version of the foreiqn idea. Adding such ideas and growing in such a way can be beneficial, and its one of the things I like about this country.

[Gnool]

I'm with VigilanteNighthawk when I say "take a chill pill". Culture is a thing that changes, and that's a good thing. Go back 2000 years to ancient Rome, their idea of good Sunday afternoon entertainment was to watch captured soldiers slaughter each other and feed religious minorities to wild animals. Go back a few hundred years to Victorian times and people were so crazy in their ideas about sex that they even covered up table legs to preserve a sense of modesty. Go back 150 years time and our culture said that women shouldn't vote. Fifty years ago and Blacks couldn't vote. All these things I've said are examples of parts of "culture" that we've held dear in the past. I think they're all shit, and I'm glad they're no longer a part of our culture.

Just because some people like martial arts movies doesn't mean that you're all becoming slaves to Asian culture. $10 says after these guys finish watching their Jackie Chan movie followed by a 10 minute visit to HentaiLand they go to McDonalds, play some WOW with their friends then go to good old fashioned American church on Sunday. There's no doubt that things from other cultures have influenced your own culture (be it anime, reggae music, eastern philosophy, the crocodile hunter, etc), but I really think it would just absorb into your own and change it a little bit, not destroy it altogether.

And what is American culture anyway? Being American (or Somalian, or German, or Chinese, or a New Zealander, etc) means different things to different people, your idea (which is a perfectly valid idea) might be completely different to the nice old lady down the street (whose idea is also a perfectly valid idea). One person might look at changing culture and say "oh no, all is lost!", whereas another might say "yes! This is the way things should be!"

And just so you know, there's no scientific basis whatsoever for the idea of "race". Once the people who mapped the human genome were done they all declared that there was only one race - the human race. And arguably the one nation that is more responsible than any other for this cultural imperialism you bemoan is America ;-)

[Sir-S-Of-TURBO]

Well if you like american identity as it is go AMISH.

Stop trying to halt the development of culture silly ;)

[AbstractVagabond]

"Real American" is an anti-American term, in my view. For that term is always made under dictative motivations. Anti-freedom. To live as an American is to live your life the way you want to live it. Not how others dictate it should be.

Americans aren't losing their identity. They're losing your identity.

[Jose]

We already killed off the true and real americans with blankets filled with smallpox on reservations.

American Culture is always changing, along with other world cultures. You can find a McDonalds in nearly every nation, would you say that those countries are losing their identity?

[SteveGuzzi]

At 11/8/06 08:08 AM, Jivan wrote: Americans are losing their identity in these 3 decades.

There is no one American identity or culture.

This topic is dumb.

[EnragedSephiroth]

Can someone lock this hateful thread? Good lord man I'm not even asian and I feel offended.

[Jesus-made-me-do-it]

Why dont you just lock up every person who isnt white in america. That will preserve your culture that you love so much.

WILL THAT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER YOU FUCKING TWAT?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Jesus-made-me-do-it]

At 11/8/06 04:46 PM, mofomojo wrote: American unity is dissembling itself, there's no doubt about that. Most likely, as with the roman empire, it will be split into two - north and south.

Split into two? What again? never

[cellardoor6]

At 11/8/06 03:57 PM, Jose wrote: We already killed off the true and real americans with blankets filled with smallpox on reservations.

Conspiracy theory...oooooohhh.

American Culture is always changing, along with other world cultures. You can find a McDonalds in nearly every nation, would you say that those countries are losing their identity?

The difference is, in those countries, people are starting to rebel against the infiltration of American culture to protect their culture. I wouldn't say they are losing their identity, but alot of them would.

But in the US, if someone expresses concern for the preservation of our culture, they will either be attacked as racist, prejudiced, or something like that. Personally, I think our culture is being destroyed, but its not really from foreigners, its from liberals (who most foreigners become).

[tawc]

At 11/8/06 08:08 AM, Jivan wrote:

Would you want to abandon our race and convert into other race just because of those silly impression? Wake up.

Americas not really a race is it.
Mostly Germanic, Romano and Celtic

[cellardoor6]

At 11/8/06 07:53 PM, tawb wrote:

At 11/8/06 08:08 AM, Jivan wrote:

Would you want to abandon our race and convert into other race just because of those silly impression? Wake up.

Americas not really a race is it.
Mostly Germanic, Romano and Celtic

Thats true, but those European ethnic groups are still part of one race. 60% of Americans have German ancestory I believe that is the figure, and 80% of Americans are caucasian European whites. But soon the predominant race will be hispanic, latino due to the massive illegal immigration from central and south American into the US.

So our culture isn't evolving naturally, it is evolving because the predominant culture is becoming outnumbered by people who are illegally entering our country.

[tawc]

At 11/8/06 08:22 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 11/8/06 07:53 PM, tawb wrote:

At 11/8/06 08:08 AM, Jivan wrote:

Would you want to abandon our race and convert into other race just because of those silly impression? Wake up.

Americas not really a race is it.
Mostly Germanic, Romano and Celtic

Thats true, but those European ethnic groups are still part of one race. 60% of Americans have German ancestory I believe that is the figure,

german 15.2%, Irish - 10.8% and English 8.7% there the main american ancestory's

So our culture isn't evolving naturally, it is evolving because the predominant culture is becoming outnumbered by people who are illegally entering our country.

Ah well, Spanish are better than Muslims

[ViolentAJ]

At 11/8/06 08:08 AM, Jivan wrote: Americans are losing their identity in these 3 decades. The condition is worsen from years to years. Most likely because of the "invasion" of Asia cultures. As an American (though i'm now living in an Asia country) we must try our best to preserve our own culture and dun accept other foreigner's culture which will eventually make us forget who we are.

After watching many Chinese's martial art movie(jackie Chan, Jet li, Shaolin temple) American tends to be mesmerised by it. Other see them like example and want to imitate them. Don't forget, we are not Chinese. Would you want to abandon our race and convert into other race just because of those silly impression? Wake up.

Why did we have to follow other races' culture? Would you like to see our youngsters only engross in Kung Fu, Japanimation? Are American's own culture bad, unacceptable?

Globalisation and many Asian American are the causes of this crisis. I'm not condemning these races nor a racist, but to remind my fellow American friend, do not forget who you are. You have to respect other races, but this doesn't mean that you can assimilate their culture.

Be a true and real American.

That's all that I've been saying for years! It's glad to see somebody that agrees with me.

I have been monitoring the youth, and most of them either embrace a hip-hop culture or Asian culture (mainly Japanese, but other asian cultures are also embraced). This actually causes more racism towards Blacks, as the youths trying to emulate their favorite Asians begin to hate Blacks and become totally hostile. Sure, there is less of a worry of being dragged for miles behind a pickup, but my right of entry in certain areas is being denied.

What I say is that if you love asian culture so much, go live there. If you love hispanic culture so much, go live in a hispanic nation. If you love Black culture so much, so live in a Black neighborhood, see how much you like it after awhile (luckily for me and my desires, I do not live in a predominantly Black area).

[cellardoor6]

At 11/8/06 08:31 PM, tawb wrote:

At 11/8/06 08:22 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 11/8/06 07:53 PM, tawb wrote:

At 11/8/06 08:08 AM, Jivan wrote:

Would you want to abandon our race and convert into other race just because of those silly impression? Wake up.

Americas not really a race is it.
Mostly Germanic, Romano and Celtic

Thats true, but those European ethnic groups are still part of one race. 60% of Americans have German ancestory I believe that is the figure,

german 15.2%, Irish - 10.8% and English 8.7% there the main american ancestory's

In the Census, 60% of US counties had citizens reporting German ancestory.

So our culture isn't evolving naturally, it is evolving because the predominant culture is becoming outnumbered by people who are illegally entering our country.

Ah well, Spanish are better than Muslims

You've got a hell of a point there. However, most Muslims that come to the US become very American after a generation or so and become assimiliated.

This isn't true for hispanics in many parts of the US where hispanic culture is predominant and hispanics (almost all of which are illegal) make up the majority of the population.

[tawc]

At 11/8/06 08:59 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

I was lookin at this one

Link

Not sure which are accurate

[DarkNati0nX]

At 11/8/06 08:08 AM, Jivan wrote: Americans are losing their identity in these 3 decades. The condition is worsen from years to years. Most likely because of the "invasion" of Asia cultures. As an American (though i'm now living in an Asia country) we must try our best to preserve

I see where your coming from this but it is an American's fault to be lost in the maze of cultures.

our own culture and dun accept other foreigner's culture which will eventually make us forget who we are.

What culture.....

After watching many Chinese's martial art movie(jackie Chan, Jet li, Shaolin temple) American tends to be mesmerised by it. Other see them like example and want to imitate them. Don't forget, we are not Chinese. Would you want to abandon our race and convert into other race just because of those silly impression? Wake up.

Which people are you talking about to imitate the chinese?
Kids? They do not know the full impression of reality yet.

Why did we have to follow other races' culture? Would you like to see our youngsters only engross in Kung Fu, Japanimation? Are American's own culture bad, unacceptable?

To some people's point of view, yes American's culture is bad, 'unnacceptable'.

Globalisation and many Asian American are the causes of this crisis. I'm not condemning these races

Your condemning us right now...

nor a racist, but to remind my fellow American friend, do not forget who you are. You have to respect other races, but this doesn't mean that you can assimilate their culture.

Pretty words, but what right do you have not to tell someone to be involved in a far away culture, years and years ago it took weeks and months just to get involved a little in other countries' cultures, but now since we have more technology and the internet, americans have a chance to be either immersed in cultures from foreginers wether you'd like it or not.

Be a true and real American.

*clap clap clap*

[fli]

At 11/8/06 04:30 PM, EnragedSephiroth wrote: Can someone lock this hateful thread? Good lord man I'm not even asian and I feel offended.

He doesn't even provide an alternative to Anime...
I mean, when it comes to it...

Japanese anime (and J-Horror by that fact) are superior overall just because they follow a different pattern in creating stories.

Cartoons here are so babyish. So Disneyfied--
Only Anime has animation that adults and teens could enjoy... OMG-- When Lust dies in Full Metal Alchemist... I was about to cry.

Can't be said about US animations...

Anyways,
this isn't about culture wars (although there is one in the US)

You just haven't found a good anime show to enjoy...

[SolInvictus]

your "own" culture, American culture is based on immigrants.

[Jose]

At 11/8/06 07:44 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 11/8/06 03:57 PM, Jose wrote: We already killed off the true and real americans with blankets filled with smallpox on reservations.

Conspiracy theory...oooooohhh.

Are you doubting that we killed millions of Native Americans in our early history?

[cellardoor6]

At 11/8/06 10:23 PM, Jose wrote:

At 11/8/06 07:44 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 11/8/06 03:57 PM, Jose wrote: We already killed off the true and real americans with blankets filled with smallpox on reservations.

Conspiracy theory...oooooohhh.

Are you doubting that we killed millions of Native Americans in our early history?

I'm doubting the blankets filled with smallpox.

But are you doubting the millions of people have died in order to create almost every existing country today? Even France only exists because the Franks conquered and killed other groups.

I don't approve of the killing of Native Americans, but you have to understand that many of them were killed in self-defense because the Indians killed alot of settlers as well, AND more Native Americans died from disease that was unintentionally spread by contact with European settlers.

But Mexico, Canada, Australia, South Africa, and many other countries only exist because they conquered and subjugated other people, this is the nature of human societies. EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY in the world was formed through some sort of subjugation of others in some point in their history.

[JakeHero]

Cultural diffusion does not cause an absence of the original tradition. So I see no reason to be alarmed.

[Jose]

At 11/8/06 10:30 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:
I'm doubting the blankets filled with smallpox.

Link

However, there is at least one documented incident in which British soldiers in North America attempted to intentionally infect native people. During Pontiac's Rebellion in 1763, a number of Native Americans launched a widespread war against British soldiers and settlers in an attempt to drive the British out of the Great Lakes region. In what is now western Pennsylvania, Native Americans (primarily Delawares) laid siege to Fort Pitt on June 22, 1763. Surrounded and isolated, and with over 200 women and children in the fort, the commander of Fort Pitt gave representatives of the besieging Delawares two blankets that had been exposed to smallpox in an attempt to infect the natives and end the siege.

Seriously, would you fight back against a foreign invader?
We infringed on their territory (which was rightfully theirs), and they fought back.

[cellardoor6]

At 11/8/06 10:38 PM, Jose wrote:

At 11/8/06 10:30 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:
I'm doubting the blankets filled with smallpox.

Link

However, there is at least one documented incident in which British soldiers in North America attempted to intentionally infect native people. During Pontiac's Rebellion in 1763, a number of Native Americans launched a widespread war against British soldiers and settlers in an attempt to drive the British out of the Great Lakes region. In what is now western Pennsylvania, Native Americans (primarily Delawares) laid siege to Fort Pitt on June 22, 1763. Surrounded and isolated, and with over 200 women and children in the fort, the commander of Fort Pitt gave representatives of the besieging Delawares two blankets that had been exposed to smallpox in an attempt to infect the natives and end the siege.

Blah blah blah.

Seriously, would you fight back against a foreign invader?
We infringed on their territory (which was rightfully theirs), and they fought back.

And we fought back again. Thats how things work. And now the descendents of those Native Americans live in Sovereign indian reservations and receive massive amounts of federal aide. Its over, why don't you complain about what the Australians do to the Aboriginese.

Um and by the way, there has been no substantiated proof that native Americas were intentionally infected with diseases.

All you did was link to a part of a wikipedia article that addresses a controversial, unproven, unsubstantiated belief held by SOME people.

Until you provide actual proof that we as Americans actually intentionally infected native Americans with disease, you're just basing your claim on a few conspiracy theories.

[zzzzd]

At 11/8/06 11:12 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

All you did was link to a part of a wikipedia article that addresses a controversial, unproven, unsubstantiated belief held by SOME people.

It wasn't the americans it was the British who brought the diseases over.

[Jose]

"However, there is at least one documented incident in which British soldiers in North America attempted to intentionally infect native people."

At 11/8/06 11:12 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:
Um and by the way, there has been no substantiated proof that native Americas were intentionally infected with diseases.

Until you provide actual proof that we as Americans actually intentionally infected native Americans with disease, you're just basing your claim on a few conspiracy theories.

You don't take documentation as proof?

[cellardoor6]

At 11/8/06 11:15 PM, zzzzd wrote:

At 11/8/06 11:12 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

All you did was link to a part of a wikipedia article that addresses a controversial, unproven, unsubstantiated belief held by SOME people.

It wasn't the americans it was the British who brought the diseases over.

Well the British, Dutch, French, Portuguese, Spanish, and Germans all brought over disease inadvertently. Europeans had built up immunity to alot of diseases, therefore it was dormant in them, but would infect Native Americans who had never been exposed to it and therefore had no immunity to these diseases upon contact with Europeans.

There has never been any proof that European settlers, let alone Americans intentionally infected the indians. There is some shady evidence to suggest that British did it, but its still all speculation.