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ladies and gentlemen welcome to the downfall of america.

Now for the real shit.......
PATRIOTIC AMERICANS! RISE UP AGAINS THE ANARCHISTS AND TAKE UP ARMS! THIS A CALL FOR REVOLUTION! FIGHT ANARCHY AND COMMUNISM! FIGHT!

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At 11/8/06 12:21 AM, TheMason wrote: Be interesting to see how al-Qaida in Iraq deals with this. Gut tells me a few big attacks in the next few days to push the Dems to cut and run...

Because all Iraq cares about is who won the midterm election.

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Because all Iraq cares about is who won the midterm election.

Well, it's not like they have problems of their own to worry about. From everything I've seen on FOX, it's all peaches and cream down there, since they participated in free and democratic elections!

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Now I'm no fan of the democrates, but you have to admit that Democrates doing nothing is a better alternative than Republicans getting things done. Their agenda was shit.

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At 11/8/06 03:55 PM, wwwyzzerdd wrote: Because all Iraq cares about is who won the midterm election.

God are you one of the biggest dipshits who frequent here or what?

Mason said nothing about Iraq. He said it about Al-Qaeda. In case you've been living in a hole for the past 3 years, the Democrats have consistently proposed two things:

1.) Withdrawal from Iraq.
2.) A timeline

Now I'll leave you to decide why the mid-term elections might trigger some big time terror activities in Iraq over the next few weeks.....

....if your brain can actually comprehend the idea of Action and Re-Action.

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SuperKooter I wouldn't go as far as to say "America Wins" but you will probably see things change in the future... which is something conservatives fear.

"To let go of the things you hold dear, you must learn" so says Yoda. "Attachment leads to fear of loss, fear leads to pain, pain leads to anger, anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to the darkside." Yoda commands you! :P Only joking but funny enough, itactually makes sense.

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At 11/8/06 05:37 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: 1) Ridiculously high taxes (Canadian-style taxes) "Hey successful business man, you are successful, so give us 50% of your paycheck to give to illegal immigrants!"

Cool, that beats all of my money going to defense contracts, and my property taxes being kicked up to make up for lower taxes. Hopefully the reality that you cannot just keep taxes low will also help improve the enormous debt we've ran up.

2) Far-reaching government involvement in every aspect of American life.

Does this mean that the government will not reach into other aspects of my life like reading my e-mails?

If you or your parents own a gun. You will be forced to register it, therefore the government for ever will know who owns guns. (The first thing Karl Marx said needed to be done in order for America to be converted to Communism.

Because the safest thing for American society is for nobody to know who owns a gun.

3) frivolous lawsuits against anyone who opposes the liberal agenda

Lawsuits? Don't you mean "criminal charges?"

Fuck, cleaning up corrupted government isn't a "liberal" agenda, it should be something that all Americans would want.

4) A reversion to the liberal control of America that has been responsibile for every defeat America has ever faced in its history.

I thought America has never been defeated.

We'll be cutting our military in half, allowing other militarties to catch up. We'll retreat from Iraq and Afghanistan, and hell we'll probably end up GIVING Iran a nuke in exchange for a few smiles and an illusion of peace. We'll pretty much say, hey, attack America, cause we're not going to do anything other than reward attackers with negotiations.

Really? You can only think of scaring the shit out of people in order to get them to vote for your side? Why not mention that we've done nothing to stop North Korea obtain, test, and make threats with a nuclear weapon rather than harp on you bullshit theory of "imposing US policy" on whatever country we hate this year.

Say goodbye to:
1) Low taxes.
Due to tax cuts for college students by the Bush administration, I only pay 10% of my pay check on income taxes.

Oh yeah, nothing says luxury like living on welfare.
Get your numbers right shithole. The US barely allocates 10% towards funding education, and pennies towards social welfare programs (I don't even have the slightest of clues of where you think immigrants get money from the government). Plenty of money (regardless of what party is in control) goes towards defense spending and paying our debt, while the majority goes to social security.

2) individual responsibility
Democrats will decide that I am not worthy to own my own assault rifles even though i've never been charged with a crime in my life.

That law was decided with a Republican Congress.

Now all those hard-working independent Americans that are allowed to decide where THEIR money goes, will be taxed into oblivion and this money will be meticulously distributed throughout the country in the way that Democrats see fit.

I don't get to decide where my money goes now. I'd much rather all my tax dollars go towards education or medical research rather than to fund a warehouse to store no-launch nukes or to hand over to Communist China.

Capitalism will be compromised, socialism will be boosted.

So because I can now may have the chance to get affordable healthcare, a well-funded educational system for my children, and no worries about getting back what I put into social security, the very small amount of people who abuse the system are fucking it all up, and therefore it should all be compromised? I say get rid of your tax cuts then, since a small amount of people exploit it to screw me out of money then.

3) limited government
Since taxes will be raised, the government will need to employ more people in certain sectors of the state and federal government to moderate, over-see, and enforce the social programs and economy manipulation that Democrats love so much.

Who employs soldiers?

The government will grow in size and more aspects of America life will be controlled by the Federal government.

Because that doesn't happen already?

State sovereignity will no longer be a priority. The liberal agenda will be, therefore simple things like our founding principles will be discarded in favor of a Liberal ideaological form of government.

So democracy will fail because the people elected these officials? State rights will be nullified because the Democrats are planning on repelling the 9th and 10th Amendments?

4) Gun rights

OH GOD NO!

You will no longer be able to buy assault rifles even though they are the least likely firearm to be used in crime.

THIS. LAW. WAS. ALREADY. PASSED.

5) Pro-family initiatives
People who get married will know have the marriage tax, essentially being penalized for getting married. Married couples with children will no longer have tax deductions.

Proof?

When you DIE your family will be taxed on your death expenditures. When you have children and you save money for their college fund, this money will no longer be exempt from taxes.

Anything?

the government will take a big chunk of all formerly tax-exempt trust funds, mutual accounts, and other family-related progarms.

Where is the merit for what you say? I've never heard a single person say that they'd support this.

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At 11/8/06 04:14 PM, Imperator wrote: God are you one of the biggest dipshits who frequent here or what?

Sure, why not?

Mason said nothing about Iraq. He said it about Al-Qaeda.

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In case you've been living in a hole for the past 3 years, the Democrats have consistently proposed two things:
1.) Withdrawal from Iraq.

I know.

2.) A timeline

....For withdrawal.

Now I'll leave you to decide why the mid-term elections might trigger some big time terror activities in Iraq over the next few weeks.....

Your logic seems to be that if the democrats are elected, then our security will be in trouble. It seems that our security has been corrupted with the decisions that this administration has made in regards to "combating evil."

....if your brain can actually comprehend the idea of Action and Re-Action.

Action: We invade Iraq for highly questionable reasons
Reaction: The American people; believing that they were lied to, decide to elect officials who will look for answers to "why."

Action: Half the world; mainly the middle-east, is pissed that we decided to take it upon ourselves to "police" the globe.
Reaction: BOOM!

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At 11/8/06 04:30 PM, wwwyzzerdd wrote

Be interesting to see how al-Qaida in Iraq deals with this

Alright, slight problem, I should have said "Iraqis" not "Iraq".

My point still stands, 8th grade English. Subject of the sentence is AL-QAEDA.

"in Iraq" ---Prepositional phrase
"in Iraq" ----Prepositional phrase

"al-Qaeda" -----Subject
"al-Qaeda" ------Subject.

Although poorly worded, I was still correct. Mason was not talking about Iraq, he was talking about Al-Qaeda.

Your logic seems to be that if the democrats are elected, then our security will be in trouble. It seems that our security has been corrupted with the decisions that this administration has made in regards to "combating evil."

My logic does not follow that at all. Put yourself in the shoes of an al-Qaeda member fighitng in Iraq.

You watch your enemies, to see what they are thinking.
You know the Democrats have frequently said we should pull out, or put up a timetable to pull out.

You know American troops are harassing you, killing your comrades, and messing up your terrorist operations. American troops scare the shit out of you, cause they're so good at killing you and your terrorist buddies......

The Democrats now have more power.
A big attack might trigger them to put up a timetable for withdrawal.

If you're a terrorist foot soldier in Iraq, and your enemy has just pinpointed when they will be leaving, it's like counting down to a New Years Party. All you've got to do is wait for the clock to run out, and boom! Your enemies are gone, and you've won!

It's almost like the US Revolutionary War. Minutemen hide in bushes/trees. Redcoats (obvious target), march down road with DRUMS. Kinda lets the enemy know where you are, don't it? And I think we all know the result of that war.......

So you maybe come up with a few big operations to make them put up that timeline......and then sit back and wait it out.

And my hypothesis was correct, you DON'T understand action/reaction very well.....
Everything done has a consequence, both for you, and those around you, including those who you may not think your action will affect.

You deciding where to go for college affects at least 50 people, and you probably don't even realize it. Go ahead, I want you to think of all the people that this decision would affect. List as many as you can think of.

Your action/reaction is typical of a close-minded person. Think outside the box:

Action: War in Vietnam turns sour
Reaction: NVA step up attacks to provoke anti-war sentiment in US. US casualties mount.
Re-Reaction: US elects new leaders. US leaves Vietnam
Conclusion: NVA wins by default, American forces quit and go home.

Action: Terrorists bomb Marine barracks in Lebanon.
Reaction: US leaves Lebanon.
Conclusion: 2nd time Us casualties have resulted in US running away.

Action: US troops die in Somalia.
Reaction: US leaves Somalia.
Conclusion: Whenever you kill enough American troops, the US leaves. Theory above becomes proven.

Action: US troops die in Iraq.
Reaction: President recognizes precedents (and the Theory of American Warfare), decides to "stay the course", thereby negating the theory that troop casualties will cause us to quit and run away.
Re-Reaction: Opposite party (Dems) take opposite stance, strong anti-war stance.
Re-re-Reaction: Terrorists and insurgents in Iraq see anti-war movement growing, step up attacks to provoke change.
Re-re-re-reaction: US elects new leaders (Dems) due to increasing failures in Iraq policy (caused by attacks of insurgents and terrorists on US and Iraqi personnel alike)

Conclusion: I think is fairly obvious......

The insurgents and terrorists don't want Americans in Iraq. The Democrats don't want troops in Iraq. They share the same goals, so obviously they are going to attack in ways which will amplify the anti-war sentiment and force a withdrawal.

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Well, the US has has had good run, (nearly three-hundred years) but the democrats getting elected in this time in age will only echo one thing to come: the death of the US. We can look forward to a bunch of losing battles in our war against radical muhammedans due to democrat influence.

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At 11/8/06 04:57 PM, BanditByte wrote: Wah...

Either way Byte, you lose=we win :D

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At 11/8/06 04:58 PM, EnragedSephiroth wrote:

At 11/8/06 04:57 PM, BanditByte wrote: Wah...

Either way Byte, you lose=we win :D

Correction: I lose = You win = Al-Qaida's victory.

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At 11/8/06 05:04 PM, KemCab wrote: Unfortunately, neither the Dems or the Reps would dare support this plan.

Of course not, but it seems the lunatic fringe of socialist left are trying their earnest to undermine any attempt we put forth to combat terrorism. Since the communists have taken over the democrat party, and they have gained a greater foothold in our government I can only assume our troops will have to deal with alot more red-tape.

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At 11/8/06 05:06 PM, BanditByte wrote:

At 11/8/06 05:04 PM, KemCab wrote: Unfortunately, neither the Dems or the Reps would dare support this plan.

Of course not, but it seems the lunatic fringe of socialist left are trying their earnest to undermine any attempt we put forth to combat terrorism.

You know, like stopping unwarrented wire taps. Or making sure that we stay under the Geneva Convention. THOSE GOD DAMN PINKO COMMIES AND THEIR CRUSADE TO PROTECT THE CONSTISTUTION.

Wait, what?

Since the communists have taken over the democrat party, and they have gained a greater foothold in our government

Communism=/=Democratic party
God you are a fucking moron.
With your logic, Republicans are all Feudalists.

I can only assume our troops will have to deal with alot more red-tape.

Assume. Speculation. Heresay.

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At 11/8/06 05:37 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: 1) Ridiculously high taxes (Canadian-style taxes) "Hey successful business man, you are successful, so give us 50% of your paycheck to give to illegal immigrants!"

How else are we going to pay for this shit hole the cons put us in??

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At 11/8/06 12:20 AM, SuperKooter wrote: Good news the dems won big tonight. They still may win the senate. Mo is up in the air webb is now LEADING in VA and Tester is winning by 6 points.

Now That pelosi is house speaker bush will have lots to answer too. NO more slogans, he need to outline a strategy for iraq.

And while the democrats waste even more money, time, and brilliance comming up with a lawsuite, americans lives are in danger.

I wish nacy pelosy was held to her word, aparently she wants to work with republicans (Which is impossible given her socialist veiws

She's already lied about wanting to impeach bush, as senate majority leader she announced publicly the democrats arn't going to try to impeach bush, after they've all said that's they're number 1 priority, getting supreme control. priority 2, raising taxes, priority 3, apease the terrorists.

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I can't believe the stupidity of this country.

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At 11/8/06 04:05 PM, Begoner wrote:

Because all Iraq cares about is who won the midterm election.

Well, it's not like they have problems of their own to worry about. From everything I've seen on FOX, it's all peaches and cream down there, since they participated in free and democratic elections!

1) i'd be hard pressed if you actually watched fox
2) they report deaths in iraq as well
3) they dont report economical improovements in iraq, debunking your sarcasm a few points further.

4) did i tell you the story about the campain ads on fox?

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I can't wait for the inevitable tax hikes, increased tuition, and continued decaying economy, especially in Michgan!!

Yay Democrats!!

Start counting your pennies everyone, you're gonna need em......

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At 11/8/06 06:09 PM, Imperator wrote: I can't wait for the inevitable tax hikes

Caused by deficit spending by the republicans.

increased tuition

News flash, republicans cut LGA and raised tuition costs. I find it funny that you don't even know that tuition costs are up nearly 40% over the last six years.

and continued decaying economy,

Supply side economics is core what is wrong with the republican party.
They spend and spend and spend, yet don't raise taxes. They then pass the burden to the next adminstration, then attack the next administration for raising taxes to pay for their spending.

Supply side economics (which is used exclusively by the republicans, has increased our national debt and will eventually suffocate our economy.

BUT LIBERALS WANT TO RAISE TAXES!

Current republicans fiscally responsible? Pfft.

Yay Democrats!!

YAY NEO-CONS!!!

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Start counting your pennies everyone, you're gonna need em......

My pennies have gone to Iraq and to the rich. It's 10:00 -- do you know where your pennies are?

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So no one with me on the anti anarchist revolution idea? Come on men this is a time for action not words!

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At 11/8/06 06:34 PM, Begoner wrote:

Start counting your pennies everyone, you're gonna need em......

My pennies have gone to Iraq and to the rich. It's 10:00 -- do you know where your pennies are?

What pennies, what fucking job.

Your 15.

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At 11/8/06 06:46 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Your 15.

And iI am quite sure he will look back at his entire belief system now with shame when he gets older.

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At 11/8/06 10:55 AM, SirXVII wrote: America wins what? Sure there might be some change in the House and maybe the Senate, but the only good thing you have to look forward to is that the President is going to be checked a little more often. That's it.

I think that's the point. The major problem with Bush was that he was giving himself runaway powers and was doing it completely unchecked.

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So no one here is willing to take the anarchist threat head on?

that sucks

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good god the dems are gaining power... well, time to pack up and move on into canada eh?
seriously though, our country is doomed. We are goin to be taxed up the ass. All the dems say bush's tax breaks help rich people, well your all dumbasses. So th child tax credit helps rich people? adults with multiple children usually are in the middle class, colledge tax break, rich kids don't need it, but it shure as hell help us middle class folks eh? There are a few more but i can't seem to recall them.

Oh yeah and there are a little thing called terrorists that liberals like to "TALK" to and like to "BE THEIR FREINDS". We are gonna get attacked again. Terrorists will see the weakness in liberal legislature and attack the shit out of us becasue they know all the dems are against any kind of fighting whatsoever. I live in maryland and even my govenor is now a dem. He Martin O'MAlley (New Gov.) is a total douche. He is complete and total incompetence in human from. He only won because people saw the D. next to his name a said " those no good republicans are going down" WTF? It's like that everywhere people sweep all republicans under the rug with bush and want nothing to do with them... WELL, there's always next election.

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Im sorry but I AM NO PEICE OF SHIT SPANIARD!

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At 11/8/06 04:21 PM, wwwyzzerdd wrote:

At 11/8/06 05:37 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: 1) Ridiculously high taxes (Canadian-style taxes) "Hey successful business man, you are successful, so give us 50% of your paycheck to give to illegal immigrants!"

Cool, that beats all of my money going to defense contracts, and my property taxes being kicked up to make up for lower taxes.

You don't know what the FUCK you're talking about. Property taxes were lowered across the board by the Bush administration. The Democrats were up in arms over it in case you're even more uninformed than I thought.

Besides, heaven forbid that we pay money for DEFENSE! It's much better that we ignore all external threats, forsake our military! Watch how every single weapons research and developement funds will be stricken from the national budget. Even people who voted for Democrats don't realize this. Democrats actually WANT our military to be weak.

Hopefully the reality that you cannot just keep taxes low will also help improve the enormous debt we've ran up.

Um those debts were a result of the economic problem that happened due to 9/11 and a NATURAL recession that had nothing to do with Republicans. Republicans had the majority when we had the largest surplus of all time.

2) Far-reaching government involvement in every aspect of American life.

Does this mean that the government will not reach into other aspects of my life like reading my e-mails?

Once again, you've proven you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Because the safest thing for American society is for nobody to know who owns a gun.

It's only a founding principle. You and every other misguided liberal dipshit is unaware of what our country was founded on.

3) frivolous lawsuits against anyone who opposes the liberal agenda

Lawsuits? Don't you mean "criminal charges?"

You mean those criminal charges that have pretty much all been disproved?

Fuck, cleaning up corrupted government isn't a "liberal" agenda, it should be something that all Americans would want.

It has nothing to do with cleaning up government. It's just a method abused by the Democrats to create propaganda against their political opposition.

4) A reversion to the liberal control of America that has been responsibile for every defeat America has ever faced in its history.

I thought America has never been defeated.

The US hasn't be militarily defeated. But the Democrats have ALLOWED US interests and US allies to be destroyed by refusing to uphold American military obligations and oathes. Vietnam was lost by democrats, not the US military. As long as the US military was there, our goal of protecting South Vietnam was met. But Democrats cut and ran.

Really? You can only think of scaring the shit out of people in order to get them to vote for your side? Why not mention that we've done nothing to stop North Korea obtain, test, and make threats with a nuclear weapon rather than harp on you bullshit theory of "imposing US policy" on whatever country we hate this year.

Done nothing? You mean doing everything OTHER than military operations? Hell, even if it hasn't done that much, its alot better than GIVING North Korea nuclear technology that ended up being used for creating nuclear bombs. Thats what Democrats did dipshit, North Korea would have never had the capability to build nukes if the Democrats didn't use their typical "lets appease them and hope for the best" method of dealing with threats.

Get your numbers right shithole. The US barely allocates 10% towards funding education

Thats because individual states have the responsibility to fund their own education. That is another founding principle of the US.

Democrats will decide that I am not worthy to own my own assault rifles even though i've never been charged with a crime in my life.

That law was decided with a Republican Congress.

Um no it wasn't moron. The assault weapons ban was rushed in 2 months before Republicans gained the majority in the elections of 1994. The Republicans fought tooth and nail to prevent it, their appeals were vetoed by the Clinton Administration.

Shows how much you know.

I don't get to decide where my money goes now. I'd much rather all my tax dollars go towards education or medical research rather than to fund a warehouse to store no-launch nukes or to hand over to Communist China.

You're an imbecile. You don't even know what you're talking about, you're a typical Democrat supporter.

3) limited government
Since taxes will be raised, the government will need to employ more people in certain sectors of the state and federal government to moderate, over-see, and enforce the social programs and economy manipulation that Democrats love so much.

Who employs soldiers?

You never cease to show your stupidity, the US military has intentionally been downsized by the Republicans and evolved into a lighter, more advanced force. Besides, the Military is a civilian-controlled organization. The Legislative branch of the government would be grown to accomodate the massive amount of money they need to meticulously distribute OUR MONEY where the Democrats see fit.

No more free-market, free-market capitalism is evil to Democrats.

The government will grow in size and more aspects of America life will be controlled by the Federal government.

Because that doesn't happen already?

You're so uneducated and misinformed you don't know the difference. Democrats want to get rid of the individual rights of states and citizens to make their own decisions. Democrats want the federal government to become bigger and more powerful.

You will no longer be able to buy assault rifles even though they are the least likely firearm to be used in crime.

THIS. LAW. WAS. ALREADY. PASSED.

In 94 you fucking imbecile, and the assault weapons ban disallowed individual states from making their own gun laws, the Democrats passed that law. The assault weapons ban EXPIRED and the Republicans refused to renew it, but allowed individual states like California and New Jersey to implement stricter gun laws.

People who get married will know have the marriage tax, essentially being penalized for getting married.

Proof?

You don't know anything do you?

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At 11/8/06 12:20 AM, SuperKooter wrote: Good news the dems won big tonight. They still may win the senate. Mo is up in the air webb is now LEADING in VA and Tester is winning by 6 points.

Now That pelosi is house speaker bush will have lots to answer too. NO more slogans, he need to outline a strategy for iraq.

Bullshit.