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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 20:33:22 Reply

i personnaly don't care. i like my name and im willing to stick with it

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 20:40:47 Reply

if it's name changes or personal pages, personal pages all the way.


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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 21:03:18 Reply

I liked the username freedom, but having a user page is defiantly worth it.


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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 21:06:12 Reply

Well, if you want to get all technical about it, if you shell out money for an actual Url, you'll be wanting to stick with the name you pick (or have to compromise into); having to keep a name doesn't seem like such a bad thing -- I mean, when you have different names in real-life that usually means you're a serial-killer or a date raper or the like. And we aren't those, are we guys?
(I gave it up years ago)
But of course, in my case, like many others taking this side of the argument, I have the profile-name I want, of course.

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 21:09:38 Reply

I seemed to have found the perfect name for myself so I have no desire to change it, but I do have another question, will it come bundled with the new layout?


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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 21:17:38 Reply

Well I like my name so if you lock it down, I personally would be happy because no one can steal my name. However, locking down names will piss off a lot of people.

You have been warned Tom.

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 21:42:34 Reply

do like myspace you're allowed to change your alias as much as you want, but you always have the same url. Just make it so you can change the usernames, but not the urls, like they do


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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 21:54:26 Reply

i really dont give a HOOT! but if you have to, go ahead. im probably sticking to my name anyway. although maybe i would change it once in a while idk. i also kinda like the idea some other people said about being able to change your username/display name, but have only one certain domain name. idk just an idea???

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 21:55:15 Reply

Alright, I haven't said my piece here and I guess it's time to do that.

For all of those of you who're saying "Do what [other sites] do", you're blind as to WHY they're doing that. That's basically a band aid on a poor username implementation system.

Luckily, the only thing we've ever had to alter with respect to usernames in the past 7 years of user accounts on Newgrounds is the restriction of underscores (_) from usernames, and that's largely down to Ross' foresight, when he created the user accounts system years ago.

As for going ahead with the "user name/display name" situation. What a crock... Most of the people who're going for this argument have actually complained in the past about not being able to get their desired username. So, if you have a "username" that's unique and then a "display name" that's also unique (and is assigned to every new user), then you also have to check (when signing up a new user), whether: a) the username is taken and THEN b) whether the display name is taken.

Imagine how many people (like you who have requested unique usernames (that were previously taken) for a long time) would feel, given those peoples' situation.

With regards to those who have given input about meta-redirects, header redirects, etc - thanks, but, with respect, those sort of situations should only ever arise after actual data (as in posts to the bbs) has been sent to the script, rather than relatively insignificant handle comparisons.

Let's not forget what a user page is supposed to be. It's supposed to be a user's page.

Changing usernames just for the sake of holidays doesn't cut it with me, change your image in your profile or in your bbs signature instead. Sorry.

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 22:03:02 Reply

At 11/7/06 09:55 PM, liljim wrote: Changing usernames just for the sake of holidays doesn't cut it with me, change your image in your profile or in your bbs signature instead. Sorry.

OK, if that doesn't cut it, what about people who come here when they're little kids and make names like zeldadude6969 or in my case, GamesCool. If they become an active member of the community, and they're not 13 anymore, they may not want to carry that babyish name with them. Just a thought.

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 22:04:53 Reply

At 11/7/06 09:55 PM, liljim wrote: Changing usernames just for the sake of holidays doesn't cut it with me.

Wait, do you want us tu bribe you?

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 22:11:55 Reply

At 11/7/06 10:03 PM, DFox wrote: OK, if that doesn't cut it, what about people who come here when they're little kids and make names like zeldadude6969 or in my case, GamesCool. If they become an active member of the community, and they're not 13 anymore, they may not want to carry that babyish name with them. Just a thought.

In my opinion, GamesCool is better than DFox. People remember you (I'm talking about the hundreds of thousands who DON'T voice their opinions, either way) by your initial username. You might have lost fans (or at least their association with who you are) by changing names.

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 22:21:34 Reply

Well on myspace and youtube you can change your url whenever you want. Surely their coding isn't that advanced? If not why not just set up a deadline day where people have to have stick with thier names after that? I'm it won't bother too many people, and of course there'll be complaints on the forums but that's all forums are anyway, complaints. Do it Tom, userpages would really kick ass. It would be so much better than linking people to a search result that doesn't always work. Also while I'm here would it be too much to ask for some way of sorting people's flashes by the date they were made? It's always nice to see how an animator has progressed.

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 22:26:28 Reply

At 11/7/06 10:11 PM, liljim wrote: In my opinion, GamesCool is better than DFox. People remember you (I'm talkig about the hundreds of thousands who DON'T voice their opinions, either way) by your initial username. You might have lost fans (or at least their association with you are) by changing names.

Oops (didn't know I had fans) :) Maybe I made a mistake, but it's too late to turn back, and personally I prefer DFox. It's short, and like my real name.

Anyway, about people being know by their initial usernames, I'll take your word for it as you know better than be. Hopefully the people who outgrow names and want to change will be the minority. I mean I think you're defined more by who you are on this BBS rather than your name, which is the way it should be, so I guess changing the name you made when you were younger isn't a biggie.

Either way, I'm sure the coolness of user pages will greatly outweigh not being able to change your username. Personally, I can't wait. I despise MySpace, so having a user page on one of my favorite sites will be awesome.

At 11/7/06 10:21 PM, Doki wrote: Well on myspace and youtube you can change your url whenever you want. Surely their coding isn't that advanced? If not why not just set up a deadline day where people have to have stick with thier names after that?

I highly doubt coding is the issue. The only issue is the change in URLs would throw off people and links that were previously created before the name change. Also, looking at what MySpace does is just pointless as it's such a poorly designed site.

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 22:30:11 Reply

I think you should just give us a 30 day deadline or something to change names. If that be the case then, can we take dibs on the names that inactive users have?


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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 22:39:37 Reply

At 11/7/06 10:30 PM, AtomicSponge wrote: I think you should just give us a 30 day deadline or something to change names. If that be the case then, can we take dibs on the names that inactive users have?

You're a bit late there.

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 22:48:45 Reply

It's obvious by now that many users don't like the idea of a username lockdown. But personally, it doesn't bother me in the slightest since my username has pretty much always remained the same and is the same for any site I goto and makes me more recognizeable that way since people see "Vegeton" and know that it's me and not someone else. I support all your decisions through and through Tom, even if at times they shake the foundations of NG.


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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 22:58:47 Reply

actually it would be a good idea to just restrict it, i mean if i really wanna change my user name, I'll just create a new account.Not that i have changed it in all the years I've been here. well once when i accidentally put in a wrong email address when i was changing the password, and back then you had to confirm through the email or something wierd, and i was never able to login. By the way if there's anyway to fix that , it would be kinda cool to have my original user name

"sintech" you can pm me if it's possible to open that again <wink wink>

that and i have 1 alt account


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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 23:10:43 Reply

At 11/6/06 08:26 PM, TomFulp wrote: Consider this post a sort of heads up... There's a chance your name might go on lockdown, so be sure it's the name you want to have. This is also a chance for everyone to share their opinions concerning this course of action. Go for it.

I support the name lock down.


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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 23:12:44 Reply

Well Tom I definitely don’t have a problem with the user name change locking but I have a question. If you guys are managing the sit on a database with a web interface cant you make something else the primary key in the database? I mean if you’re using a relational database we can be given a user ID and create a relationship to that ID. Like on myspace.com my user name is Lupedog but my myspace site is myspace.com/webmasterluke, it was not set up that way I chose it. If we were given that same choice as to chose our site front name then have to stick to that name then we could still change our alias freely.

Just a question?

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 23:21:41 Reply

At 11/7/06 11:12 PM, lupedog wrote: Just a question?

I'm not Tom, but I am a programmer. You're pretty much over complicating the problem. On your MySpace, webmasterluke is associated with your user id, OK, fine. But if that relational username or address or whatever you'd like to call it changes, then that old name is not pointing or relating to your user id any longer because it either doesn't exist in the address table or is occupied and relating to another user id, because only the new name is. Sure, you can store every old name and keep the relation for each to the user id, but that would be absurd being you could have a ton of names and they would become to scarce.

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 23:25:24 Reply

But tom.....

What about BantaClaus?

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-07 23:40:06 Reply

Changing your name is a bonus to newground users everywhere but if its just going to cause a big problem with the urls then don't allow it.

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-08 00:19:27 Reply

My user name is awesome.

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-08 00:24:10 Reply

if you gave people enough warning i think it would be okay but that is a great feature on newgrounds to be able to change your name but it is not crucial the benifits of the new system probably outway the ability to change your name. im sure there is some clever way to solve this problem but none are going to work to well there ias probably going to be a whole lot of mess if you try to do both with either broken links or too many "this page has moved pages" and that will just suck.
no name change= a okay

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-08 00:25:22 Reply

I really haven't got a problem with it.


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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-08 00:25:25 Reply

I guess ultimately I agree with a lockdown because I realize how annoying/pointless name changes are. I still still can't help to think that I could potentially have a better name (which is Dopefish btw... it holds a lot of sentimental value :P) if the opportunity arose.

Whatever happens in the end, I think that people will support it. I love Newgrounds too much to bitch and moan about necessary changes. I'm also a bit drunk at the moment, but all that aside, I support whatever happens and I'm seriously looking forward to this update. Good luck sorting things out you guys.


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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-08 00:50:31 Reply

wait a minute... you mean to tell me we could always change our names?!?!? 0.o

why wasnt i ever informed of this? ah well... its not like i wanna change my name anyway. i have history with this name on this site. its the first site i ever joined and the only name ive ever used on any other site ever. i couldnt change it even if i wanted to cause it also has symbolic newgrounds history. its like a statue of a long dead king! you just cant change it!

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Response to Username Lockdown? 2006-11-08 01:12:58 Reply

All I’m saying is that almost every user on NG has an industry name, you do, "Orange Fox Games", and I do, "Timothy Lane Studios." I think that since Tom is thinking in the direction of dynamic user pages, I think that he could make them less dependant on the user names and more dependent on a subsidiary site name that we can pick, and that would have to bee locked, not necessarily the username.