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At 11/5/06 12:14 AM, bobroolz wrote: but how can u deny:

It's Tahnok!!

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At 11/5/06 12:34 AM, Jon4life wrote: Starfox Dinosaur planet was the worst game on gamecube!

Just shut up.

Stay on topic or don't even mention a game that was actually good.

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At 11/5/06 12:34 AM, Jon4life wrote: Starfox Dinosaur planet was the worst game on gamecube!

Actually it was a pretty good game, Star Fox Assault was much worse and took me only 2 hours to beat.

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At 11/5/06 12:10 AM, Mr-Bungle wrote: 1. He can't fucking jump without being near a wall

yeah that kind of sucks

2. The game involves too much walking

...what the hell? thats like saying sonic or mario requires too much walking.

3. Story is the weakest point

How.

4. Dungeons are boring and unoriginal

...now play Halo 1. its not very uncommon to have repetitive-ness(?) in a game.

5. Who the fuck plays an Ocarina?

Link does. Fuck you.

6. When I don't talk to anyone, I don't end up saving the world

Link does. Fuck you.

7. Nobody takes a shit - ever

actually lol. What do you think loading screens are for?

8. Most of the games could be an expansion pack

How.

9. Nothing is done to change the formula

why would they want to?

10. Time Paradoxes

HOLY SHIT! A VIDEO GAME ISN'T ACCURATE??? HOT DAMN!

11. Gorons like hugging

oooooookay..... and?

12. Redeads aren't scary at all

They weren't going for scary... Zelda isn't a horror game.

13. Most of the dungeons are old dungeons with a fresh coat of paint

DAMN! THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!

14. I can never decapitate a NPC with a hookshot

dude... These games are rated E or T. why would you go to zelda for a bloody game. come on now.

15. No voice acting

It helps keep the mood of the game dude. usually voice actors suck balls too.

16. Back in my day you didn't need to play a fucking song to open a door

yup, the whole game is based on one door that you play a song to get through. uh huh.

17. Gannondorf could have been killed sooner

He always comes back either way.

18. Overrated

lol no.

19. Tingle is a douche, I shouldn't have to pay him to decipher a map

actually.... yes he is...

20. Rupees are for India

Cheap laughs? nope. not laughing.

And I'm spent...

Finally...

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At 11/5/06 12:17 AM, CleansingFlame wrote: FUCK YOU! zelda=tehpwnage

YES! I agree with you CleansingFlame!!!
YOU SUCK! FUCK YOU!!!! Zelda is great! And you are comparing what you said to nowadays stuff. People played Ocarinas back then.

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go get butt molested by a large black convict named giggles

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At 11/5/06 01:49 AM, amaterasu wrote:

At 11/5/06 12:35 AM, Pimplediddy wrote: Name 5 games with better plots

1. Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
2. Final Fantasy 7
3. Shadow of the Colossus
4. Star Ocean: The second story
5. Secret of Mana

Name 5 games with more imaginative bosses

1. Shadow of the Colossus
2. Okami
3. God of War (few, but awesome)
4. Kingdom Hearts
5. Super Metroid

Name any game where people shit.

You got me there. Postal 2 maybe?

I love zelda, but I couldn't resist.

LOL KINGDOM HEARTS, well there goes any credibility your post may have had, kingdom hearts basically created 3 characters, then ripped everything else off from already existing franchises, nothing cool about that at all tbh . . . failed terribly.

PS Zelda owns your face, suck one.

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At 11/5/06 12:10 AM, Mr-Bungle wrote: 1. He can't fucking jump without being near a wall

So? I do not want to to play a platformer when i but a zelda game.

2. The game involves too much walking

Not really.

3. Story is the weakest point

How? Sure the time line is a bit confusing but big deal.

4. Dungeons are boring and unoriginal

Again how? They have puzzles that are hard that you must you beat and a fun boss battle at the end.

5. Who the fuck plays an Ocarina?

Lets see.... People in the 1400 hundred and tribes in ancient south America.

6. When I don't talk to anyone, I don't end up saving the world

So you want a game that people never help you out and you have to figure things out on your own?

7. Nobody takes a shit - ever

Why would you want to see them do that anyways?

8. Most of the games could be an expansion pack

No they could not due to the facts that all are really different.

9. Nothing is done to change the formula

Because the Formula is oh i dunno...Good/

10. Time Paradoxes

Thats a good thing.

11. Gorons like hugging

So? I do to.

12. Redeads aren't scary at all

This is not Silent hill dumb ass.

13. Most of the dungeons are old dungeons with a fresh coat of paint

Take every single dungion from all of the games and line them up. Notice how they are all really different.

14. I can never decapitate a NPC with a hookshot

if you want to do that buy a M game not a G-T Rpg game

15. No voice acting

So? Most voice acting sucks.

16. Back in my day you didn't need to play a fucking song to open a door

You dame kids! Back in my day We left doors unlocked instead of useing songs to keep them shut!

17. Gannondorf could have been killed sooner

Not really.

18. Overrated

How?

19. Tingle is a douche, I shouldn't have to pay him to decipher a map

True. Get over it

20. Rupees are for India

Dont forget about Hyrule.

And I'm spent...

So is your intelligents.

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At 11/5/06 12:10 AM, Mr-Bungle wrote: 1. He can't fucking jump without being near a wall

Because is actually needed, and you don't have too jump all over the place like a douche

2. The game involves too much walking

Walking is good for you tummy

3. Story is the weakest point

It's basically a interactive book

4. Dungeons are boring and unoriginal

Boring to you, all the dungeons have some kind of twist

5. Who the fuck plays an Ocarina?

Link for example, and some good musicians

6. When I don't talk to anyone, I don't end up saving the world

Oh, so you can do it without doing it?

7. Nobody takes a shit - ever

Because they do when you are on dungeons

8. Most of the games could be an expansion pack

Barely, play all of the and come back later

9. Nothing is done to change the formula

Yes and no, there's usually a quirk or twist in the gameplay (Phantom Hourglass)

10. Time Paradoxes

Back to the Future, bitch

11. Gorons like hugging

Sooo what's your point?

12. Redeads aren't scary at all

They are in the Oh-Shit-Its-Raping-Me kind of way

13. Most of the dungeons are old dungeons with a fresh coat of paint

Almost never...

14. I can never decapitate a NPC with a hookshot

Why do you want to decapitate them? they might give you items!!

15. No voice acting

Dialoge is too extensive, and cost precious memory...

16. Back in my day you didn't need to play a fucking song to open a door

So you been there?

17. Gannondorf could have been killed sooner

How?

18. Overrated

A tad, but there are more (Halo)

19. Tingle is a douche, I shouldn't have to pay him to decipher a map

A job maybe? I would do the same to get some cash

20. Rupees are for India

Dollars are form USA, and pesos are form Mexico, YAY!!

And I'm spent...

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jesus CHRIS this thread was painful to read through. so many spazzing 13 year olds...

Zelda was good at the time... if ocarina of time was released today it would get an average rating of 6. I don't see the point in trying to defend it, its a classic.. when there are games like oblivion and bioshock, theres no denying that its a horrible game.

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1. Agreed
2. Garbage. You can warp/teleport almost anywhere
3. Oh, come now. TP had an above average storykube
4. So is your face
5. Link, BITCH
6. What? No. Just no
7. I've never taken a shit in any video game I've ever played
8. The same could be said about any sequel
9. Windwaker /=/ LTTP
10. Storyline makes perfect sense to those who research it
11. Secksy rock bodies
12. Meh
13. Already said that, and no
14. It's Nintendo, dude
15. Fucking AGREED
16. You're 18. Neither you nor I have a day to go back to
17. He's a fucking wizard. Give the man some credit
18. Agreed
19. He isn't in OOT
20. And Hyrule

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At 5/8/08 09:47 PM, Orange-Jews wrote: jesus CHRIS this thread was painful to read through. so many spazzing 13 year olds...

make that CHRIST.

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At 11/5/06 12:19 AM, ScissorHead wrote:

At 11/5/06 12:10 AM, Mr-Bungle wrote: 1. He can't fucking jump without being near a wall

Whats the point of jumping when you dont need to?

Which explains Mario games very well...

2. The game involves too much walking

Which is why you have Epona

Epona cant go into dungeons or caves, which is basically where all the fun is

3. Story is the weakest point

It's better than most games plots

like what? its just a 9 year old kid who gets an unpowered sword, goes in search for magic orbs and comes back only to find ganon under control and you have to kill him with a flashy move

4. Dungeons are boring and unoriginal

Not really, it takes sometimes hours to solve one puzzle

you must suck at puzzles

5. Who the fuck plays an Ocarina?

Link does, thats who bitch

were talking quality of life here...

6. When I don't talk to anyone, I don't end up saving the world

You can't have friends without talking

you dont need friends to save the world

7. Nobody takes a shit - ever

So you want to watch video game characters shit?

which is why nintendo lacks minor details

8. Most of the games could be an expansion pack

Not really

zelda is basically the same game over again with a lameass excuse for it to be better

9. Nothing is done to change the formula

Formula for what?

go to response 3

10. Time Paradoxes

Isn't that good?

not for a game like zelda

11. Gorons like hugging

Hugging is fun though

men hugging each other is mostly gay

12. Redeads aren't scary at all

But fun to kill =)

your obviously missing the original point...

13. Most of the dungeons are old dungeons with a fresh coat of paint

So the bad guys like to keep their dungeons looking nice.\

which is why i would never play a game like that

14. I can never decapitate a NPC with a hookshot

It's called swords

its called nintendo

15. No voice acting

So theres no voices in SMB 3, its still a great game

for nintendo. Compare this to Halo or COD and you will get the picture

16. Back in my day you didn't need to play a fucking song to open a door

How would you know?

how would you know he doesnt know?

17. Gannondorf could have been killed sooner

Well that would make a boring game

that would save me from 4 more hours of playing

18. Overrated

Not really

yes really

19. Tingle is a douche, I shouldn't have to pay him to decipher a map

Well too bad

real mature response

20. Rupees are for India

And for Hyrule

and for douches

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When i was little i was confused at zelda. i'm 15, and i think is one of the most complete and perfect games ever. Why? Fuck... zelda was the first game to have SAVE SLOTS! zelda was the first game to introduce dungeons and massive bosses (really, check out the first one).
Also, riding horses in videogames is fun, but fighting while riding is fucking awesome (LoZ: TP)
The fact of the sea traveling is great, and controlling the wind (windwaker)
The same weapons is a weak point, but don't forget there are improvements for every weapon in each new game.
For the dungeons... HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO PASS THE WATER TEMPLE IN OCARINA ON YOUR FIRST TRY? IT'S SO FUCKING DIFFICULT!
I dislike the fact of the jumping, but it's nice.
It's not like an RPG at all.
It's entertaining.
Conclusion: fuck you.
=P

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At 11/5/06 12:19 AM, ScissorHead wrote:

At 11/5/06 12:10 AM, Mr-Bungle wrote: 1. He can't fucking jump without being near a wall

Whats the point of jumping when you dont need to?

For the freedom.

2. The game involves too much walking

Which is why you have Epona

Still too much.

3. Story is the weakest point

It's better than most games plots

Ever heard of Diver Down?

4. Dungeons are boring and unoriginal

Not really, it takes sometimes hours to solve one puzzle

You're an idiot.

5. Who the fuck plays an Ocarina?

Link does, thats who bitch

But do we care?

6. When I don't talk to anyone, I don't end up saving the world

You can't have friends without talking

You don't need friends to save the world.

7. Nobody takes a shit - ever

So you want to watch video game characters shit?

Fuck yeah.

8. Most of the games could be an expansion pack

Not really

Yarly

9. Nothing is done to change the formula

Formula for what?

The game you idiot.

10. Time Paradoxes

Isn't that good?

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11. Gorons like hugging

Hugging is fun though

I disagree.

12. Redeads aren't scary at all

But fun to kill =)

If you like killing sticks that just stand there, sure.

13. Most of the dungeons are old dungeons with a fresh coat of paint

So the bad guys like to keep their dungeons looking nice.\

They're the same bad guys in the same dungeon nontheless.

14. I can never decapitate a NPC with a hookshot

It's called swords

It's called a hookshot.

15. No voice acting

So theres no voices in SMB 3, its still a great game

Yeah, but it doesn't rely on cinematics constantly with nothing but gasping and sighing, and no one plays story mode for the cinematics.

16. Back in my day you didn't need to play a fucking song to open a door

How would you know?

Because when I play the text version of NetHack, I only need "k" and "o"

17. Gannondorf could have been killed sooner

Well that would make a boring game

Well shit forgive me if I don't wanna fight the same enemy all the time.

18. Overrated

Not really

Yarly.

19. Tingle is a douche, I shouldn't have to pay him to decipher a map

Well too bad

Looks like we've run out of comebacks.

20. Rupees are for India

And for Hyrule

But they're still used in india damnit.

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At 11/5/06 12:10 AM, Mr-Bungle wrote: 1. He can't fucking jump without being near a wall

Because random jumping appeals to idiots. Like yourself.

2. The game involves too much walking

Because all adventurers are within a five foot walking distance of their ovjective.

3. Story is the weakest point

More depth than most games.

4. Dungeons are boring and unoriginal

Yeah, finding out puzzles and using interesting items is such a drag.

5. Who the fuck plays an Ocarina?

Real men.

6. When I don't talk to anyone, I don't end up saving the world

He doesn't need to talk.

7. Nobody takes a shit - ever

No one in most games ever takes a shit.

8. Most of the games could be an expansion pack

Same could be said for the GTA games.

9. Nothing is done to change the formula

Same could be said for the GTA games.

10. Time Paradoxes

There is no official timeline.

11. Gorons like hugging

They're affectionate creatures.

12. Redeads aren't scary at all

Because they're supposed to strike fear in people.

13. Most of the dungeons are old dungeons with a fresh coat of paint

Same can be said for GTA games.

14. I can never decapitate a NPC with a hookshot

Know why? Because they're supposed to live you asshole.

15. No voice acting

A great game doesn't need voices. They want to keep things retro. Also, the people in those games speak Hyrulian. How would something like that sound?

16. Back in my day you didn't need to play a fucking song to open a door

Because shooting down a door appeals more to little kids. Like yourself.

17. Gannondorf could have been killed sooner

Link is too weak when he encounters him.

18. Overrated

So is mostly all PS3 and XBox360 games.

19. Tingle is a douche, I shouldn't have to pay him to decipher a map

I agree.

20. Rupees are for India

They wanted to be original, what other games use and actual and not made up currency.

And I'm spent...

I hope it was worth it.

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Trolling much?

Zelda is awesome, get over it.

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I don't like Zelda

Because I've never played it.

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At 11/5/06 01:49 AM, amaterasu wrote:

At 11/5/06 12:35 AM, Pimplediddy wrote: Name any game where people shit.

The sims.

Fixed.

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At 11/5/06 12:10 AM, Mr-Bungle wrote: 1. He can't fucking jump without being near a wall

Link is an actual human being with no real superpowers, and therefore can only jump within normal human limits. Before anybody jumps on this, yes he is technically a Hylian, but the only difference between Hylians and humans is the ears, nothing else. Infact, Link is called a human throughout Twilight Princess.

2. The game involves too much walking

One, most ADVENTURE games involve traveling great distances to far away lands and seldom-ventured areas. And second, that's what the friggin' horse is for. And to those who complained you can't bring Epona into caves and dungeons, why the hell would you? Most people leave their horses outside enclosed spaces for obvious reasons. And also, the dungeons involve climbing, swimming, hookshots, and some jumping. A horse cannot do these things and would essentially be dead weight.

3. Story is the weakest point

What exactly is weak about it. It's an in-depth story about a lone hero who defeats evil, and also goes into the very nature of the the enemy and his destiny, as well as the history of Hyrule and the Godesses.

4. Dungeons are boring and unoriginal

Obviously you have never played any of the Water Temples, nor the Canyon Temple in Majora's Mask.

5. Who the fuck plays an Ocarina?

What other medieval instruments would you want him to play? The flute? The old-fashioned guitar? The trumpet?

6. When I don't talk to anyone, I don't end up saving the world

Many of the most popular characters are silent. This allows the audience to imagine their own qualities in Link, rather than just being dealt with whatever the writers dish out. This way they can envision Link as any kind of hero they want, as opposed to a strict and rigid personality defined by the writing staff that doesn't leave anything to the imagination.

7. Nobody takes a shit - ever

I'm not going to repeat what has already been said by everyone else.

8. Most of the games could be an expansion pack

It's called staying true to the theme, all great franchizes do it. "Hey, you know that game franchize we made with millions of fans around the world? Let's fuck it all up and make it absolutely nothing like what the fans have come to love!"

9. Nothing is done to change the formula

See above.

10. Time Paradoxes

Zelda has no continuity, infact that's what makes it special. Rather than being bound by continuity of shitloads of sequels, the story re-invents itself in each game, but ultimately involving the general truth. The details and plot my differ, but in the end, the three main characters will be there, and in the end evil will be defeated. It is in this re-telling that gives creative freedom to the many ways this could be done by Link, rather than being bound to what older games tell us what Hyrule is supposed to be like.

11. Gorons like hugging

Obviously you haven't played Majora's Mask or Twilight Princess.

12. Redeads aren't scary at all

They rape you, that's worse than any creature in the game.

13. Most of the dungeons are old dungeons with a fresh coat of paint

Dude, look at the Water Temples. Ocarina's involved a complex and confusing system of rising and lowering water levels, whereas Twilight Princess involved a complex and confusing system of water fflows and rotating staircases.

14. I can never decapitate a NPC with a hookshot

That's what a sword is for. Even if they DID try to make the hookshot more weapon-like, it couldn't realistically decapitate them. It may puncture the skull, but it wouldn't rip the head clean off.

15. No voice acting

There is a VERY good reason for that. They tried that with Wand of Gamelon, and it was horrible....I mean HORRIBLE. Reading dialogue, again, let's the player interpret the tone of the characters in their own way, rather than being forced to watch horrible actors define how their character sounds like.

Just watch this 1:15 clip of Wand of Gamelon, and tell me we need voice actors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mHw5g55o C4

16. Back in my day you didn't need to play a fucking song to open a door

No, you needed to find the BLUE key. Dude, one door opened with a song, the rest of the time he either opens it normally or finds a key.

17. Gannondorf could have been killed sooner

Yeah, let's kill the main antagonist within the first 10 minutes, thus all plot as well as any reason for Link to save Hyrule.

18. Overrated

That's not a reason, that's just a milder way of saying it sucks. You can't say it sucks, and then list one of the reasons as "it sucks", that's just idiotic.

19. Tingle is a douche, I shouldn't have to pay him to decipher a map

Agreed, but he was not central any of the stories, nor was he in most of the games.

20. Rupees are for India

You do know there are several nations who's currency is called the "peso". What's your point?

And I'm spent...

You must be if you're using a line from Austin Powers movies. Dude, that fad was gone in 2000.

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At 11/5/06 12:10 AM, Mr-Bungle wrote: 1. He can't fucking jump without being near a wall
2. The game involves too much walking
3. Story is the weakest point
4. Dungeons are boring and unoriginal
5. Who the fuck plays an Ocarina?
6. When I don't talk to anyone, I don't end up saving the world
7. Nobody takes a shit - ever
8. Most of the games could be an expansion pack
9. Nothing is done to change the formula
10. Time Paradoxes
11. Gorons like hugging
12. Redeads aren't scary at all
13. Most of the dungeons are old dungeons with a fresh coat of paint
14. I can never decapitate a NPC with a hookshot
15. No voice acting
16. Back in my day you didn't need to play a fucking song to open a door
17. Gannondorf could have been killed sooner
18. Overrated
19. Tingle is a douche, I shouldn't have to pay him to decipher a map
20. Rupees are for India

And I'm spent...

Sorry but fuck you, FUCK YOU hard.

1. The enitre point in the jumping thing was to make it stray from games such as mario.
2. If you don't like walking then please donate your legs to charity.
3. Story the weakest point?! It's the fucking strongest point!
4. Go play Majora's Mask... Highly original dungeons.
5. I play an Ocarina...
6. That's bullshit, you need to talk to people to get new information on where to go.
7. Games would suck if you had to give a shit about people taking a shit.
8. No, because the system wouldn't be able to handle it. Fuck wit.
9. Ok OoT To MM Much?
10. There are NO time paradoxes... If there were Hyrule would be innevitably destroyed.
11. Goron's are supposed to be happy, lively and loving creatures...
12. Oh yes they are... Yes they are...
13. I can't agree on that, Water temple > Fire Temple.
14. So what? This isn't GTA 4.
15. Well tough shit, fuck you and dyslexics.
16. It depends on the door, moron.
17. Ganondorf is the main enemy, they're obviously not gonna kill him off that quickly.
18. If anything it's underrated, there are barely any hardcore Zelda fans anymore, it's dissed all the time.
19. Why not? How else is a 35 year old midget gonna make a living?
20. No, 'Rupies' are for India, 'Rupee's' are for Zelda.

Fuck you.

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At 11/5/06 01:49 AM, amaterasu wrote:

Name 5 games with more imaginative bosses

1. Shadow of the Colossus
2. Okami
3. God of War (few, but awesome)
4. Kingdom Hearts
5. Super Metroid

I have to disagree with some of these, Even though okami was a great game the bosses where not as imaginative as zelda ones. I also disagree with kingdom hearts.

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At 11/5/06 12:10 AM, Mr-Bungle wrote:

:: 1. He can't fucking jump without being near a wall
:What's the point of just jumping around. There's really no point to just randomly jumping around.
:: 2. The game involves too much walking
:Most games involves some form of walking and if you don't like walking you get Epona later and in OOT, you can warp almost everywhere. In TP, you have Midna who also can warp you almost anywhere and your wolf form is faster than walking.
:: 3. Story is the weakest point
:How so? It has a very colorful background that usually revolved around good and evil. How's that weak?
:: 4. Dungeons are boring and unoriginal
:Do you remember the Water temple in both OOT and TP? Confusing as hell. Unoriginal isn't what I'd call either of those places. Remember the desert dungeon in Majoria's mask?
:: 5. Who the fuck plays an Ocarina?
:Who the fuck cares? Why do you need a baton in Wind Waker? Why does a wolf sing in TP? Who cares.
:: 6. When I don't talk to anyone, I don't end up saving the world
:It's call story progression. You have to talk to people to progress the story. That's the basic point. This isn't a straight forward action game. It has a deep plot to it.

7. Nobody takes a shit - ever

:No one wondered about it until you brought it up. I don't want to repeat the reasons everyone else have said
:: 8. Most of the games could be an expansion pack
:Most of the game are so different yet so similiar to each other. How are they "expanding" on the other. The only "expansion" technically would be Majoria's mask and that had nothing to do with OOT.

9. Nothing is done to change the formula

:Because it's a good and simple formula and has worked with Zelda so far and the fans like the formula. If the creator changes it entirely now, then there's a risk in losing the current fanbase.
:: 10. Time Paradoxes
:There is no offical timeline in Zelda. It's like Final Fantasy. None of the Zelda games are consistent to each other at all.
:: 11. Gorons like hugging
:and Zora's like swiming, and Navi can't stop bothering you with shit you already know. What's your point?

12. Redeads aren't scary at all

:No, they're tramatic to kids with their raping hugs on you.
:: 13. Most of the dungeons are old dungeons with a fresh coat of paint
:Example?
:: 14. I can never decapitate a NPC with a hookshot
:Cause this is Nintendo. If they make a game or sponsor a show that has that, they'd censor it. And hookshots wouldn't decapitate a person. It would just be stuck on their heads and then Link would get dragged to them for some odd reason because that's how the hookshot works. Does Batman's grappling hook decapitate ppl?

15. No voice acting

:"Boy, I can't wait to bomb some dodongos"....I rest my case. Don't get it. Listen to these. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibK0Nj0sj yU and if that doesn't say it all, then what about "Well excuuuse me, princess" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2IsTEjsQ 34

16. Back in my day you didn't need to play a fucking song to open a door

:Back in my day, we say "Open sesame"
:: 17. Gannondorf could have been killed sooner
:Well then we'd have to switch to Vaati or in TP, Zant - That guy's like the General Grevious of Zelda.

18. Overrated

:That's not a reason, that's a response and not a very good one.
:: 19. Tingle is a douche, I shouldn't have to pay him to decipher a map
:Only thing I'll agree on.

20. Rupees are for India

:Does it matter what the name of the currency is? You're talking about a currency for a fictional middle age style fantasy world that involves ppl like rocks, fish ppl, faries, and a desert ppl of women that pretty much are belly dances with swords in OOT.

And I'm spent...

)An Austin Powers reference?

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Take this bullshit troll argument to the Video Game forum.

Oh, and if I see anyone posting this shit in there I'll ban you.