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At 8/3/05 02:31 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Anyway, sorry to whatever readers I have left.

I read it. I was wondering what was going on.

At 8/3/05 03:23 AM, -Silv3r wrote: I read it. I was wondering what was going on.

Yeah, I've got a topic and and all, just don't think I've really got the time and energy to hammer it out this week, so I think you'll just see it go up next Monday, rather then me putting it up this week, might try to do a quick news round up or something in it's place, since I got some good feedback on the Comic Con potpourri column.

Hey Aview. Man! I reread all of my Brian Michael Bendis issues of DD up until DD runs Kingpin over with a car. Hah ha. Man that's got to be one of the new greatest moments in modern comics. Especially all the guest artist they got to guest pencil panels of DD beating up Wilson. If Daredevil ever ended that would be the defintitive moment. Sure the Kingpins been sent to jail or been made a pauper before and got back to being the Kingpin or close to it, but he's never been beaten that badly. That what happens when a blind man drives a car. ;)

I think it's also nice to get rid of Tubsy an put him in jail (without killing him off to avoid the inevitable retarded story bringing him back to life).

Daredevil needs other villians to focus on. Having the Kingpin run every bad thing in his life from a distance seriously gave me the impression that the Fat man hoggs DD's rogue gallery. You just can't compare any DD villian to him cause there all his pawns.

I really started to apreciate the plot holes and continuity problems I had after this. Cause there is almost none. I was wrong about the whole thing.

Like you know how I said that the story was already done in the old fall from grace story line Aview?

Well I tottally got that story all wrong from not having read it in ages. I skimmed through the issues. When Matt is ousted in that, a cheezy tabloid does it not Jonah's and it's quickly disregarded as bad journalism. Yet Matt changes his identity anyway and becomes Jack Batlin. Don't know much about what happens after.

Also I think I mentioned this, when Foggy's Jewish mother visits him at the hospital and I was wondering who she was becuase it wasn't that Sharpe lady that used to be partners with Nelson and Murdock..... Well Foggy mentions later on "as my adoptive mother would say"
So BMB decided to clean that up which was nice of him. I still fail to see at what point the Rose started working for the Kingpin and still no explanation as to why Vannessa went from the innocent bystander to totally evil. I can assume though.

I still wish BMB didn't kill of the Rose. I have a feeling he didn't have any respect for the character and then the FBI had to go and find his body. I wouldn't want to be the author trying to ressurect him after that explanation.

I guess the character was pretty conflicted. I still never could figure out if he wanted to be a criminal for real or just was in the game to get rid of the Kingpin. He is the best during the old Hobgoblin issues. I think he could of been raised up to be a great DD villian like most of Spidey's underused rogue gallery. It would of been better if he took over as the Kingpin and shown some guts instead of dieing. :(

At 8/5/05 06:50 PM, Dekathos wrote: Hey Aview. Man! I reread all of my Brian Michael Bendis issues of DD up until DD runs Kingpin over with a car. Hah ha. Man that's got to be one of the new greatest moments in modern comics. Especially all the guest artist they got to guest pencil panels of DD beating up Wilson. If Daredevil ever ended that would be the defintitive moment. Sure the Kingpins been sent to jail or been made a pauper before and got back to being the Kingpin or close to it, but he's never been beaten that badly. That what happens when a blind man drives a car. ;)

I think it was definitely great, shocking work. It really hammered home that Matt had reached a breaking point, and was ready to cross a line that most hero's won't, one of those issues that your jaw hits the floor on, and dosen't come back up from until after the last page.

I think it's also nice to get rid of Tubsy an put him in jail (without killing him off to avoid the inevitable retarded story bringing him back to life).

Though he and Bullseye have apparently broken out now as per the second issue of DD vs. Punisher.

Daredevil needs other villians to focus on. Having the Kingpin run every bad thing in his life from a distance seriously gave me the impression that the Fat man hoggs DD's rogue gallery. You just can't compare any DD villian to him cause there all his pawns.

Um, have you ever SEEN DD's rogues gallery? DD himself admits it's a pretty pathetic lineup, that's why everybody relies on The Kingpin, or Bullseye, since they're the only really worth it villians he's got.

Well I tottally got that story all wrong from not having read it in ages. I skimmed through the issues. When Matt is ousted in that, a cheezy tabloid does it not Jonah's and it's quickly disregarded as bad journalism. Yet Matt changes his identity anyway and becomes Jack Batlin. Don't know much about what happens after.

Yeah, cause Marvel hasn't been great with continuity lately, but it seemed stupid to me that they'd have Jonah talking about not having this story if he had reported it before

Also I think I mentioned this, when Foggy's Jewish mother visits him at the hospital and I was wondering who she was becuase it wasn't that Sharpe lady that used to be partners with Nelson and Murdock..... Well Foggy mentions later on "as my adoptive mother would say"
So BMB decided to clean that up which was nice of him. I still fail to see at what point the Rose started working for the Kingpin and still no explanation as to why Vannessa went from the innocent bystander to totally evil. I can assume though.

I think they handled the adoption thing earlier, so BMB was just re-iterating. As for Vanessa, I think what happened there is that Vanessa is a smart woman, she knew what Fisk was, and I mean, she still loved him, this was the most important man in her life obviously, and there was a real chance he had been killed, by their own son. I think it made Vanessa finally decide she needed to strike back.

I still wish BMB didn't kill of the Rose. I have a feeling he didn't have any respect for the character and then the FBI had to go and find his body. I wouldn't want to be the author trying to ressurect him after that explanation.

Doubtful he's coming back, Richard had disappeared completely really, until being used there. The fact that he was a depressive drunk seemed to drive that point home as well.

I guess the character was pretty conflicted. I still never could figure out if he wanted to be a criminal for real or just was in the game to get rid of the Kingpin. He is the best during the old Hobgoblin issues. I think he could of been raised up to be a great DD villian like most of Spidey's underused rogue gallery. It would of been better if he took over as the Kingpin and shown some guts instead of dieing. :(

I think Richard wanted to beat his dad, bottom line, he wanted to get rid of his dad, and be better at crime then his dad, and when he realized he couldn't, he quit and basically lost his drive to do anything, which is where Silke found him.

Congrats on making UOTD Dek!

At 8/5/05 07:23 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

I think it was definitely great, shocking work. It really hammered home that Matt had reached a breaking point, and was ready to cross a line that most hero's won't, one of those issues that your jaw hits the floor on, and dosen't come back up from until after the last page.

YES! I mean BMB has been really putting his hands into everything at Marvel and has been writing nearly everything. He's a good writer though so I'm not freaked out about it. That idea of reading the comic and then at the end being like OH MAN I want the next one because I have no idea what's going to happen next! He literally mastered that. Every issue was a cliff hanger.

The fight he had with Bullseye made me wonder if I was missing a few things. I wonder if I mentioned it before. What was Daredevil talking about when he mentioned Buleseyes real name and his origin? Did that happen in a book I haven't read?

I also wonder when DD told Bullseye to shut up after he made fun of him for his "tattoo" on his forehead-- I was wondering if what Bullseye wanted to say was that DD scarred his forehead before but since DD does it to him again I thought I must be reading to much into it. Well any explantion for having the movie get up is better then nothing.

Though he and Bullseye have apparently broken out now as per the second issue of DD vs. Punisher.

Sounds like I need to get that then. Is it any good? -- That makes me wonder why Punisher has never killed the Kingpin. I know of one occasion during a old Gang war storyline where he attempted to but Daredevil or Spider-man stopped him. You have to wonder if it's those 2 that prevented him from doing that. I wonder what Frank thinks about DD being the Kingpin. He must think that it was a brilliant move and wonders why he never thought of it himself. The nervous breakdown DD, must seem very hypocritical to Punisher since if the Punisher did the same thing Matt would be trying to aprehend him. Punisher's always best when he makes the straight arrows like Spidey and DD look like the irational idiots since everyone always says he is. I remember the recent Marvel VS DC arc where Batman was in the Marvel universe and he witnessed the Punisher blowing people away. He stopped everything to beat him down. He would be Batman's worse nightmare because he's what Wayne could have easily become since they have such simmilar motivations. Do you know of any cross overs between them (that don't involve Azrael). It could be a real interesting read if done well. I heard the Bman and DD crossover wasn't to good. :(

Um, have you ever SEEN DD's rogues gallery?

I know what you mean. But I think that the Kingpin was a second stringer as a Spidey villian until he was given more attention as DD's enemy. I bet we could thank Miller for that.

DD does need some new guys to fight. Was the Owl a Spider-man villian first too before he was a DD one?

DD himself admits it's a pretty pathetic lineup,

Yeah with "Leap frog" If he ever had it out with Spidey, I'm surprised Spider-man hasn't laughed himself to death yet.

I have another question since I also read Pulse. What is the background of the Jessica Jones character BMB is in love with? Was she a superhero or a Shield agent? I don't know why but I keep thinking she was the original Spider-Woman.

At 8/5/05 09:14 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Congrats on making UOTD Dek!

Thanks! I actually thought I might of been user of the day a long time ago and maybe just wasn't online at the time but this proves I never was. Ha ha.

At 8/5/05 09:23 PM, Dekathos wrote: YES! I mean BMB has been really putting his hands into everything at Marvel and has been writing nearly everything. He's a good writer though so I'm not freaked out about it. That idea of reading the comic and then at the end being like OH MAN I want the next one because I have no idea what's going to happen next! He literally mastered that. Every issue was a cliff hanger.

Yeah, he does a good job of just doing good comics, and not just "writing for the trade" like so many guys are doing now.

The fight he had with Bullseye made me wonder if I was missing a few things. I wonder if I mentioned it before. What was Daredevil talking about when he mentioned Buleseyes real name and his origin? Did that happen in a book I haven't read?

You know what happened there I think? Kevin Smith was supposed to have DD: The Target done by then. It was going to be Bullseye's full origin, but he only ever got an issue done. Bendis wanted to use Bulls earlier, but was told he couldn't use him because of Smith's story. But when that didn't pan out so well, Bendis was apparently allowed to use him, but forced to do so as if The Target had come out, and was done and over with. Pissed me off.

I also wonder when DD told Bullseye to shut up after he made fun of him for his "tattoo" on his forehead-- I was wondering if what Bullseye wanted to say was that DD scarred his forehead before but since DD does it to him again I thought I must be reading to much into it. Well any explantion for having the movie get up is better then nothing.

The movie getup was also going to be explained in The Target.

Sounds like I need to get that then. Is it any good? -- That makes me wonder why Punisher has never killed the Kingpin. I know of one occasion during a old Gang war storyline where he attempted to but Daredevil or Spider-man stopped him. You have to wonder if it's those 2 that prevented him from doing that. I wonder what Frank thinks about DD being the Kingpin. He must think that it was a brilliant move and wonders why he never thought of it himself. The nervous breakdown DD, must seem very hypocritical to Punisher since if the Punisher did the same thing Matt would be trying to aprehend him. Punisher's always best when he makes the straight arrows like Spidey and DD look like the irational idiots since everyone always says he is. I remember the recent Marvel VS DC arc where Batman was in the Marvel universe and he witnessed the Punisher blowing people away. He stopped everything to beat him down. He would be Batman's worse nightmare because he's what Wayne could have easily become since they have such simmilar motivations. Do you know of any cross overs between them (that don't involve Azrael). It could be a real interesting read if done well. I heard the Bman and DD crossover wasn't to good. :(

Eh, the book is so so right now. There has been at least one Batman Punisher crossover, I'd have to go tap Stafffighter to get in here and summarize, which I will, since he follows all things Punisher.

I know what you mean. But I think that the Kingpin was a second stringer as a Spidey villian until he was given more attention as DD's enemy. I bet we could thank Miller for that.

Oh yeah, Miller even said one of his prime goals on DD was to steal as many Spidey villians as he could and use them.

DD does need some new guys to fight. Was the Owl a Spider-man villian first too before he was a DD one?

Nope, the Owl has always been a pain in DD's ass, almost exclusively.

Yeah with "Leap frog" If he ever had it out with Spidey, I'm surprised Spider-man hasn't laughed himself to death yet.

Yeah, not to mention The Matador, The Jester, Mr. Fear was alright (for a Scarecrow knockoff), and Stilt-Man. The Gladiator was always pretty tough, fucking hated that old scumbag for making Melvin put that damn suit on again.

I have another question since I also read Pulse. What is the background of the Jessica Jones character BMB is in love with? Was she a superhero or a Shield agent? I don't know why but I keep thinking she was the original Spider-Woman.

Jessica Jones was created by Bendis specifically for Alias, she's supposed to have been a failed super hero, but far as I know, they've never really delved into her past career. Joe Quesada jokes all the time about how they threaten Bendis with killing her off every time he begs to kill someone.

There was a batman, punisher crossover a while back. it was intereiging in tht it put batman into the role of boyscout which is usually what everyone else at dc plays to him.The contrast was brilliant it shows they are very simular with the distinct diffrence being batman hating guns and the punisher going deeper and hating those who use them on innocents. Batman came out vuictorios when the two finally scuffled, which I give credit to frank having a bullet in each arm. They were defined as diffrent when batman actually stopped the punisher from shooting the joker. In short, batman sees the punisher the same way most of the marvel universe does, doing the right thing the wrong way

So while i was in Chicago over the past few days i had the chance to stop by a really cool Comic Book Store (i forget what it was called)... I had a lot of money but only ended up buying 3 comics... The first 2 Doc Savage Comics from Nov 88 and Dec 88, and well i couldnt resist buying a really old Aquaman and the Atom comic presented by The Brave and the Bold (never seen that before), i have yet to open it and find out what year it was from but it looks really old...

HAHHAHAHAHA

I love out dated What ifs? that make the Watcher seem as if he doesn't know what he's talking about.

I guess this should be called what if Marvel wanted to screw up Spider-man really REALLY bad for years.

I have a old What If? where Watcher says the Hobgoblin is Ned leeds. That always makes me laugh. Uatu must only know as much as the readers at the time do. ;)

I should dig thru these covers on this site I'm looking at. I wonder if theres a "What if Gwen Stacy was a dirty slut who had sex with the Green Goblin?" anywhere here? Bad Spider-man plots should stay what ifs? :(

Wow... When i saw Duke of Hazzard there was a preview for some new movie about some guy whose name starts with a V... Its a DC Comic guy and the movie looked horrible... Its a shame cause im probably going to go see it anyway...

At 8/12/05 12:03 AM, Religiously_Rude wrote: Wow... When i saw Duke of Hazzard there was a preview for some new movie about some guy whose name starts with a V... Its a DC Comic guy and the movie looked horrible... Its a shame cause im probably going to go see it anyway...

V for Vendetta based off of Alan Moore's tale of a fascist future in Britain and tied into the Guy Fawke's failed attempt to blow up Parlament in the 1600's (V dresses as Fawkes) from what I hear, you're better off getting the comic book when they do a reprint of it for the flick (which has been confirmed by DC that it'll happen, I think it'll be a hardcover too), and then just avoiding the flick because from what I've seen of the script in reviews, they treat the audience like total retards who can't understand anything unless it's detailed for them, and they change the comic a lot. Moore has sworn off involvement with it, or any project adapting his work long ago, because they always bastardize it, and he just isn't interested in film as a storytelling medium, partly because of the bastardizing. So there you go.

http://www.supermant..zie/new_superman.jpg

I think this is proof that the costume design for Superman is very poor that a fan art looks more impressive.

See it's not his build thats all wrong it's the material they used for the costume and the size of the S. Making the S small draws attention to how skinny he is.

IUnfortunately Singer seems to think it would be like a "billboard" if it were to big. Whatever. I think his costume designers are blind. Bet they are the same bozo's who gave the X-men a leather fetish. That skimpy underwear and the also tiny belt make things worse. I don't think Superman's belt does anything but keep his underwear up but in the new movie it looks like a utility belt.

I've heard some good things about it though one being they will use John Williams main theme song, which I gaurantee will be the only music I pay attention too during the whole thing. To bad they couldn't do the same think with Batman Begins in regards to the main theme in Batman.

Well here is the latest on the whole thing anyway. The question that fan boy asks Singer about the costume makes me embarassed to be a fanboy. If it was me I would have just come out and said that it's not the design or how loyal it is. It's how it looks on the actor.

http://www.bluetight..ideo_large.php?id=22

At 8/22/05 09:44 AM, Dekathos wrote:

If it was me I would have just come out and said that it's not the design or how loyal it is. It's how it looks on the actor.

I just realized I contradicted myself. What I meant is design and loyalty are important but they just sort of failed in regards to the finished product in this case.

i didnt notice this club,
i mean the endless doesent really say anything about comics to my knowledge extent

well can i join and id like to ask...
-do any of you guys read a comic called the runaways

At 8/23/05 10:11 AM, Thief_at_Dusk wrote: i didnt notice this club,
i mean the endless doesent really say anything about comics to my knowledge extent

well can i join and id like to ask...
-do any of you guys read a comic called the runaways

I'm wondering just how big a problem that is. You are not the first to mention it. :(

An sorry never heard of the runaways.

At 8/23/05 12:45 PM, Dekathos wrote:

I'm wondering just how big a problem that is. You are not the first to mention it. :(

An sorry never heard of the runaways.

do you guys read the weekly comic book newspaper?
if so, im pretty sure you should know, but ik

Ugggh. This club is so dead. I sware Aview if you had aim I would never bother. You're the only one who responds to my posts.

- and no I won't become active on your forums because I'll never leave. :(

Any who, about a million years ago I saw the Fantastic 4 movie. Must of been like 2 or 3 weeks after it came out. It was a really small theater and that effects my judgment. >:(

Basically, it was another movie that could have been alot better. There seemed to be more of an interest in the comedic value of the film then the FF fighting actual crime or doing something constructive which is fine to a point.

And they ruined Doom. Or was it the actor who ruined him? Take your pick. Saying he was from Latveria did not make this guy the threatening Super genius most powerful Marvel villian of all time like he should be because as I mentioned before the idea is that he runs Latveria because a multibillion dollar corporation is not big enough for Doom.

He still has his vanity but what's special about Doom is your supposed to believe his love of himself is valid because he really is as great as he says he is or almost as great.

I didn't feel that he was smart. I didn't feel his rivarly between him and Reed was anything more then him wanting Susan.

He didn't even have any real reason to be on screen actually. The end of the movie felt like a desperate attempt to put him in a fight with the FF just so that the flick can come to a conclusion.

I really liked Thing and the Torch though. Man. They were more interesting then Dr. Doom! That's a problem.

And I cannot express how pointless Doom's electric metal skin power was or whatever that garbage was.

Ha and they tottaly used Alba for the sex an no other reason. Seriously! She can't make her clothes invisible?? What's the point of her powers then? What was the point fo the scene where she stripped at all ?? She was the only one that could get through the crowd?? WHAT? By the time she caught up with Ben they were all there anyway. :(

Well hope they can do better next time. Maybe Doom can actually be scary and have a different voice now, Since his mask covers his face.

I was alway hoping for a Galactus FF movie myself but Marvel wants to whore Silver surfer so that's not going to happen. I won't watch that movie that's for sure. I had a problem with the cartoon for the same reason. It had good story animation and acting but it was about Silver Surfer. Why not just make a movie about another second rate character like Namor? O wait.... they are trying that too. How many Elektra Catwoman bombs does Hollywood need before they realize second string nobody characters don't deserve there own movie!

I'll even go so far as to say oftent hey don't deserve there own comic either. >:(

I'll be back later to talk about the new Batman stuff I've been reading. I have mixed emotions about the whole thing.

I've been really busy of late, modding, video games, work, and personal drama. Makes it harder to do keep up with the place as much as I'd like. Yeah, I know the name is misleading, but there's no way to edit it or change it over now, which is why I try to keep the advertisement in my sig, I imagine though that I'm mostly talking to people who already heard this story before since the new guy probably decided he's not going to deal with a club that moves as slowly as this one does.

Hey everyone... I'm in London right now... There are great comic book stores everywhere and they have all these great back issues... I would stay and talk about them but i dont really have the time...

At 8/29/05 04:25 AM, Religiously_Rude wrote: Hey everyone... I'm in London right now... There are great comic book stores everywhere and they have all these great back issues... I would stay and talk about them but i dont really have the time...

Must be tea time...

Hey avie i agree with your take on spiderman definitely the best marvel movie.They got great actors for the villians the story is being kept as close to the original as possible and its jsut fucking awsome.X-men comes a close second.

At 8/29/05 04:41 AM, nitroxide wrote: Hey avie i agree with your take on spiderman definitely the best marvel movie.They got great actors for the villians the story is being kept as close to the original as possible and its jsut fucking awsome.X-men comes a close second.

I liked the original X-Men, but thought X2 was an overrated action flick which wasted Brian Cox as just somebody to push the story along between cool action scenes, I'm also antsy about this third flick because of the rush job they will almost inevitably have to do to get it out by May of next year.

At 8/30/05 12:17 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 8/29/05 04:41 AM, nitroxide wrote:

I liked the original X-Men, but thought X2 was an overrated action flick which wasted Brian Cox as just somebody to push the story along between cool action scenes, I'm also antsy about this third flick because of the rush job they will almost inevitably have to do to get it out by May of next year.

I liked how they set up Pyro...and his future in the x-men storyline but i felt they rushed way to soon into the whole phoneix aspect of things without even introducing space travel in the x-men world and there missing key characters.I think magneto is portrayed with perfection though...

Will juggernaut be in next one?

At 8/30/05 04:48 AM, nitroxide wrote: Will juggernaut be in next one?

Juggernaut is indeed in the next film, forgot who they cast as him though. Anyway, just bumping this back up to plug the new Ghost Rider book, got the first issue yesterday and the story is very interesting as it looks like GR is going to be dragged outta hell to stop a war between Heaven and Hell. The art on this book also is absolutely GORGEOUS! I mean, if your a fan of that Alex Ross type of realism, this is definitely a book you need to try if for no other reason then it is just so damn pretty to look at.

Also, there's an initiative on our part I'll be announcing very soon, when it all comes together, so stay tuned.

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I cant find the hat... Like my mom said i could get it but i cant find it when i go to order the hat...

At 9/10/05 12:04 PM, Religiously_Rude wrote: I cant find the hat... Like my mom said i could get it but i cant find it when i go to order the hat...

Yeah, we've had some problems with that, here's what you do:

1. go to the site
2. pick the hat color and size
3. then when you get to the credit card info, there's a text box on that screen, you can just type in there, "endless crew hat"

That's it.

Who's everyones favorite pencil artist? Mines Ed McGuinness hands down...

At 9/22/05 11:27 PM, -Superman- wrote: Who's everyones favorite pencil artist? Mines Ed McGuinness hands down...

That's a tough call, I think I'm probably digging Alex Maleev the most, but he needs to be on the right project for his style to really be appreciated. Clayton Craine's art really took me by surprise in Ghost Rider, guy just seemed to come out of nowhere. But sadly, I think I usually wind up paying more attention to who's writing the book vs. who's drawing it.