New York Road blocks...

[TheMDude]

God, how stoopid are these freaking protesters!!??! MSNBC reports that protesters in New York are going as far as lying in the middle of intersections to disrupt traffic!

I say the police should call some monster trucks into manhattan!!

[swayside]

peace protests are getting to be not so peaceful. protesting is ok as long as it doesn't involve people who don't want to be (like blocking traffic, locking doors by chaining various bodyparts to then, etc.), then it's starts getting fellonous.

[TheMDude]

Here's a source:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/887126_asp.htm?0cv=CB10

[karasz]

At 3/27/03 04:45 PM, zMDude wrote: God, how stoopid are these freaking protesters!!??! MSNBC reports that protesters in New York are going as far as lying in the middle of intersections to disrupt traffic!

SO, people invoking their first amendment is stupid to you (you spelled it wrong, im going to assume it was for a reason, or u just didnt know either way thats unimportant...)

explain to me why you dislike the protesters, is it just cuz they are anti-war, OR their style OR something else...

I say the police should call some monster trucks into manhattan!!

so while their are people in a desert that are MY age being shot at, and these people want them back home where they WONT be shot at... i just dont see ur way of keeping the soliders in harms way the best way to support them...

ALSO while the soliders are being attacked in the desert fighting to try to install democracy, YOU want to shut people up and want everyone to fall in line with the administration....

THATS NOT A DEMOCRACY, pal...

[swayside]

At 3/27/03 05:24 PM, karasz wrote:

At 3/27/03 04:45 PM, zMDude wrote: God, how stoopid are these freaking protesters!!??! MSNBC reports that protesters in New York are going as far as lying in the middle of intersections to disrupt traffic!

SO, people invoking their first amendment is stupid to you (you spelled it wrong, im going to assume it was for a reason, or u just didnt know either way thats unimportant...)

that's not what he meant. i don't think this topic was directed at the protester's ideals as much as their methods. lying down in the street, throwing things at the police, ect, is pretty stupid. they're only causing discourse in the country they say is off track enough.

explain to me why you dislike the protesters, is it just cuz they are anti-war, OR their style OR something else...

once again, i don't think he was really talking bout their ideals.

I say the police should call some monster trucks into manhattan!!

so while their are people in a desert that are MY age being shot at,

and there are poeple MY age in iraq being oppressed there. the people YOUR age are saving them.

and these people want them back home where they WONT be shot at...

and neglect the thousands more that are being oppressed?

i just dont see ur way of keeping the soliders in harms way the best way to support them...

a soldier's job is to be in harms way. that's why they call them soldiers. they do battle when need be.

[Raptorman]

At 3/27/03 05:24 PM, karasz wrote:

explain to me why you dislike the protesters, is it just cuz they are anti-war, OR their style OR something else...

Alright, I'll make this short and not-so-sweet. I have to deal with these cocksuckers all the time here in Seattle.

Ok, so you have a bitch with someone that has nothing to do with me. You go out and do something assinine that causes me a problem. My opinion of the person you have a bitch with is not changed. However, I am pissed at you for fucking up my day.

[swayside]

At 3/27/03 05:44 PM, Raptorman wrote:

Ok, so you have a bitch with someone that has nothing to do with me. You go out and do something assinine that causes me a problem. My opinion of the person you have a bitch with is not changed. However, I am pissed at you for fucking up my day.

well said, however vulgar.

[karasz]

At 3/27/03 05:37 PM, swayside wrote:

At 3/27/03 05:24 PM, karasz wrote:

At 3/27/03 04:45 PM, zMDude wrote: God, how stoopid are these freaking protesters!!??! MSNBC reports that protesters in New York are going as far as lying in the middle of intersections to disrupt traffic!

SO, people invoking their first amendment is stupid to you (you spelled it wrong, im going to assume it was for a reason, or u just didnt know either way thats unimportant...)

that's not what he meant. i don't think this topic was directed at the protester's ideals as much as their methods. lying down in the street, throwing things at the police, ect, is pretty stupid. they're only causing discourse in the country they say is off track enough.

explain to me why you dislike the protesters, is it just cuz they are anti-war, OR their style OR something else...

once again, i don't think he was really talking bout their ideals.

all of this is understandable... just asking

I say the police should call some monster trucks into manhattan!!

so while their are people in a desert that are MY age being shot at,

and there are poeple MY age in iraq being oppressed there. the people YOUR age are saving them.

TRUE, 110% absolutely true... BUT afghanistan what did we do about the women being oppressed??? NOTHING, until Osama attacked... true it sucks but THEY SHOULD do something about it... if this war was just about freeing the iraqi people and taking out ALL dictators i would be all for it... BUT i cant NOT look at all the other evidence, which points to OTHER reasons for the war... and i know this is falling on opposing ears, and it would seem like i support saddam, which is what i do NOT do, im just giving the rational opposing side to this question...

and these people want them back home where they WONT be shot at...

and neglect the thousands more that are being oppressed?

see above...

i just dont see ur way of keeping the soliders in harms way the best way to support them...

a soldier's job is to be in harms way. that's why they call them soldiers. they do battle when need be.

but shouldnt we be doing something about saudi arabia where 15 of the 19 hijackers came from (where did the other 4 come from? if anyone knows please tell...) or china where human rights is a question... OR TURKEY since they kill the KURDS just like IRAQ, but i guess iraq is the biggest threat to us... not north korea with its NUKES...

[karasz]

raptorman, good enough rational for me

(seriously, im NOT being a dick)

[TheMDude]

At 3/27/03 05:24 PM, karasz wrote: SO, people invoking their first amendment is stupid to you (you spelled it wrong, im going to assume it was for a reason, or u just didnt know either way thats unimportant...)

It was intentional.....

explain to me why you dislike the protesters, is it just cuz they are anti-war, OR their style OR something else...

I don't have a beef with a protester's beliefs. I am on the fence when it comes to whether or not we should go to war.

My problem is that they are doing things as annoying as lying in the middle of the street for attention. Attention is all they really get, this post proving as much. When I for one heard this information, I didn't rethink why we are going to war or if those protesters were right. I thought that they were being disruptive fools.

so while their are people in a desert that are MY age being shot at, and these people want them back home where they WONT be shot at... i just dont see ur way of keeping the soliders in harms way the best way to support them...

Some protesters want the soliders home....some protesters just hate everything America just because they can. Reminds me of how Vietnam vets were treated like garbage upon return.

My way? I never mentioned a stance on the war. Those soldiers are volunteers. They should know the risks of their job. If they don't, then they're idiots.

ALSO while the soliders are being attacked in the desert fighting to try to install democracy, YOU want to shut people up and want everyone to fall in line with the administration....

THATS NOT A DEMOCRACY, pal...

Are you against the war or for it? You support war and bash on it in the same paragraph.

I didn't say that I wanted everybody to fall into the line of the administration. I do want them pulled off the street though!! (In the most literal sence!)

[TheEvilOne]

At 3/27/03 05:24 PM, karasz wrote: SO, people invoking their first amendment is stupid to you (you spelled it wrong, im going to assume it was for a reason, or u just didnt know either way thats unimportant...)

I don't think the first amendment protects the right to block busy intersections.

explain to me why you dislike the protesters, is it just cuz they are anti-war, OR their style OR something else...

It IS their style. Voicing your opinion is fine. But disrupting traffic or breaking any other laws is not.

I say the police should call some monster trucks into manhattan!!

so while their are people in a desert that are MY age being shot at, and these people want them back home where they WONT be shot at... i just dont see ur way of keeping the soliders in harms way the best way to support them...

ALSO while the soliders are being attacked in the desert fighting to try to install democracy, YOU want to shut people up and want everyone to fall in line with the administration....

THATS NOT A DEMOCRACY, pal...

It's not about shutting them up. It's about getting them off of the street so everyone else can go about their business.

[TheMDude]

Spelling fix: Sense!!!

Now that (and other mistakes) weren't intentional! lol

[karasz]

zMDUDE and THEEVILONE... points taken, that is why i took the stance opposing 'zmdude' to see ur rationale behind your stance...

i do have to admit im surprised there was no flaming i thought i wouldve been screamed at quite a few times...

as for my stance: i dont take sides on any issues... i play devil's advocate at all times... that is my style, this way i can piss both sides off enough to where they will see me as a friend instead of an enemy... basically cuz i hate not being liked... cuz im a big big dork

[TheShrike]

It is called 'civil disobedience'.

[NEMESiSZ]

If they're ever there when I take my car into the city, I'm going to run them over and not even think twice about it.

[House-Of-Leaves]

At 3/27/03 07:26 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: If they're ever there when I take my car into the city, I'm going to run them over and not even think twice about it.

Let us know how it is in prison, then.

Don't drop the soap. Unless, of course, you -want- to.

[NEMESiSZ]

"Protestors? I didn't even see them officer, were they the same ones who attacked you while you were trying to preserve the peace?"

"Why yes they were, it was an honest mistake, I'll clean this mess up and you're free to go."

[Jimsween]

*snickers* that kind of reminds me of the story in the literature section.

[MuscleHed]

At 3/27/03 06:35 PM, TheShrike wrote: It is called 'civil disobedience'.

Civil Disobedience? You have to be “civil” first. Besides, Gandhi believe is was a Countries duty to protect it’s people. He also believed if their was an injustice going on, such as the way Saddam treats his people, you should do everything in your power to stop it.

Civil Disobedience, my ass! Your dictionary says it best when it says Civil Disobedience is “characterized by the use of passive resistance or other nonviolent means.”

[Dagodevas]

How more annoying will these protests be? I kinda respected them at first, but now they're becoming more annoying than a case of gangrene. If I was on my way to class and I saw some dork lying down in the middle of the street cause he wants EVERYONE to suffer because he's not getting his way, I'd run his ass over.

Kazuo Kiriyama

P.S.: I'm being a smart-ass. I wouldn't really run him over. Just decided to say that before someone jumps on my ass for saying that.

[swayside]

At 3/27/03 09:30 PM, Kazuo_Kiriyama wrote:

P.S.: I'm being a smart-ass. I wouldn't really run him over. Just decided to say that before someone jumps on my ass for saying that.

i'd at least call the coppers on him. there's no practical reason to block a street in protest of something unrelated.

[TheShrike]

At 3/27/03 08:37 PM, MuscleHed wrote: Civil Disobedience? You have to be “civil” first.[...]

Civil Disobedience, my ass! Your dictionary says it best when it says Civil Disobedience is “characterized by the use of passive resistance or other nonviolent means.”

...
*rolls eyes*

Lying in the street and not getting up when asked would not qualify as violent, and would characterize passive resistance.

Think before you speak.

[implodinggoat]

These protesters or at least the people who make their T shirts are raging anti semites. They are wearing shirts reffering to the war claiming "witness to Jewish terrorism". What the fuck do Jews have to do with anything?

The Nazi party is making a grass roots come back.

[NEMESiSZ]

At 3/27/03 10:03 PM, implodinggoat wrote:
The Nazi party is making a grass roots come back.

Hitler is back, and this time no more Mr. Nice Guy

[swayside]

haile whooping!

[karasz]

At 3/27/03 10:03 PM, implodinggoat wrote: These protesters or at least the people who make their T shirts are raging anti semites. They are wearing shirts reffering to the war claiming "witness to Jewish terrorism". What the fuck do Jews have to do with anything?

there is a belief, that if it werent for israel the ARABs would be quite nicer to all... but dont know and cant find out...

The Nazi party is making a grass roots come back.

super... where do i sign??? and by sign i mean find the fuckers so i can blow them up so there is no hint of dictatorship in the US... (ur next ashcroft... although u would probably be at the meeting anyway)

[NJDeadzone]

this country is really rolling off the hill...perhaps it's time for history to repeat and create the McCarthyism of the past, diversity is an unfair institution.

[NSS-SEPP]

At 3/27/03 10:06 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote:

At 3/27/03 10:03 PM, implodinggoat wrote:
The Nazi party is making a grass roots come back.

Hitler is back, and this time no more Mr. Nice Guy

if Hitler was alive he wouldn´t just want to wipeout the jews but the arabs too, since they dont really fit into his ideology.

[NEMESiSZ]

Hence: "No more Mr. Nice Guy."

[implodinggoat]

At 3/27/03 10:38 PM, karasz wrote: super... where do i sign??? and by sign i mean find the fuckers so i can blow them up so there is no hint of dictatorship in the US... (ur next ashcroft... although u would probably be at the meeting anyway)

Are you calling me a Nazi?.....How dare you! I swear its bull crap like that, that makes me want to annex Czechoslovakia and invade Poland or at least send some troops into the Rhineland.