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At 11/4/06 07:16 PM, SomeNick wrote: NEWS FLASH: "America" isn't a super power anymore. Too many whiners in the USA as of today.

How is America not a superpower? The US has the worlds largest economy, most powerful military and the US wields the most world-wide political influence? The US is the worlds ONLY superpower, China and India might usurpe the US as the worlds largest economies, but they won't have the military strength or influence the US has.

Even if China or India overtook the US in military and political influence (which they won't) the US would still be considered a superpower. The US and the Soviet Union were both superpowers simultaneously. So China, India and the US will be 3 superpowers simultaneously.

But the thing is, China and India or both incredibly reliant on American cooperation, the vast majority of the Chinese and Indian economy revolves around American-related business. And India gets alot of civilian aide and much of their workforce are employed by American subsidiaries. India and China's military power is also laughable compared to that of the US.

CHina and india both don't have the ability to project military power outside of their borders, let alone cross oceans with forces.

The US is the worlds lone superpower, and is therefore a Hyperpower because the US is many times more powerful than the next most powerful countries.

Ask any EDUCATED, non-biased person and they will tell you the US is the worlds Superpower, has been for a long time, and will continue to be for a long time.

At 11/5/06 04:00 AM, FAB0L0US wrote:

At 11/4/06 04:23 PM, Denta wrote: Well, don't forget that the Soviets were the ones who entered Berlin, shut up.

Berlin was a prize and meant nothing. The Soviets lost hundreds of thousands of men in that meat grinder, for what, pride?

Mean't Nothing?! ARE YOU THICK!?! That was the goddamn capital of Nazi-Germany! If the Soviets didn't go for Berlin, Hitler would still be alive and fight for much longer, he still thought he didn't lose! Until the Soviets were just around the corner, then he married Eva Braun and committed suicide.

And yes, America did fight in Africa. Operation Torch.

Yeah, but the UK still won that war in Africa.

At 11/5/06 04:09 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Ask any EDUCATED, non-biased person and they will tell you the US is the worlds Superpower, has been for a long time, and will continue to be for a long time.

Long time? I don't really think so. You can't just be the worlds Superpower that long, especially since 9/11 and the war crippled your economy and military a bit.

Ofcourse, America is the worlds Superpower, but not the best.

At 11/2/06 11:57 AM, BanditByte wrote:

At 11/2/06 11:49 AM, internet-lord wrote: I dont know why but I just cant see America as a superpower

Because of your emotional biased and foolish pride.

I don't see America as a superpower either actually.
When you say "Superpower" the first country that comes to my mind is China.
It might not be this great now. But in a few years it will totally shit on the Americans.
it's got over 1billion people and the world's fastest growing economy.

I'd feel safer with China as the world leader.

Aslo... Please remember; Even the greatest of dynasties eventually tumble.
Should I remind you that the US is under 400 years old? The roman empire lasted about 1500 years before it collapsed. Even the Aboriginal Tibes of Ausralia who has lived there for 60,000 years fell to the Europeans. It's pretty stupid to be a proud American on the grounds of wealth, population size etc...

Europe is way better than teh US.
The European Union has 457 million people.
It's purchasing power is $12.18 trillion

If you compare the Import Vs Exports:

US:
Imports Spendings: $1.727 trillion
Exports Revenues: $927.5 billion

Nearly 1 trillion deficit!

EU:
Imports: $1.402 trillion
Exports: $1.318 trillion

only 100 billion deficit.

Also, The EU military power is far greater than that of the US.
The EU have set up a treaty that will oblige members to defend each other in case of a threat.

If the US attacked any European country; that would cause World war 3. All of Europe against America and We all know Europe would win. The US population isn't distributed enough. All we would have to do is bomb: Washington DC, New York, Chicago and a few others... And teh Americans would surrender.

On the other hand, If the US wanted to defeat the EU, they would have to bomb every caital city of every european nation and 100s of military bases scattered all accross a land area that exceeds that of teh US.

Honestly, Americans should stop boasting how good they are as a nation. Europeans should start boasting how good they are as a people.
As a European myself, I believe that we are one people oprating under many governments.

If the US were a bully, they would have taken land from Iraq and would be more concerned with the arms economy than any other area of policy.

Also: ask the kurds.

At 11/5/06 11:18 AM, ZeroAsALimit wrote: If the US were a bully, they would have taken land from Iraq and would be more concerned with the arms economy than any other area of policy.

*Coughyouwantedtheoilinsteadcough!*

At 11/5/06 11:23 AM, Denta wrote: *Coughyouwantedtheoilinsteadcough!*

ORLY?

Oil only has about 30 or 40 years left. If America really were a bully, they would have taken and kept Iraq. There would be no talk of withdrawal, there would have been no basis for attacking them either.

If they want fucking oil so much, they sould've taken Scotland.

But, oh no, it isn't crude oil, so it must be for oil.

Fucking conchies make me sick and I hope they all apologise to the families of our brave troops.

At 11/5/06 11:15 AM, LolOutLoud wrote:

Europe is way better than teh US.
The European Union has 457 million people.
It's purchasing power is $12.18 trillion

If you compare the Import Vs Exports:

US:
Imports Spendings: $1.727 trillion
Exports Revenues: $927.5 billion

Nearly 1 trillion deficit!

EU:
Imports: $1.402 trillion
Exports: $1.318 trillion

only 100 billion deficit.
.

Now I didnt know that. But you do realise that some people are going to say that America is one country and europe is many different countries and those figures mean nothing.

Austraila is in the EU? Learn something new everyday i suppose.

At 11/5/06 01:09 PM, internet-lord wrote:

Austraila is in the EU? Learn something new everyday i suppose.

Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, WOAH! When the hell did this happen? That doesn't make sense! How can a country that's not even in Europe be a part of the E.U.?????

At 11/5/06 01:25 PM, SovietClock wrote:

At 11/5/06 01:09 PM, internet-lord wrote:

Austraila is in the EU? Learn something new everyday i suppose.

Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, WOAH! When the hell did this happen? That doesn't make sense! How can a country that's not even in Europe be a part of the E.U.?????

Well in that huge text that LolOutLoud did he said he is in the EU and his profile says he is from austraila

At 11/5/06 01:25 PM, SovietClock wrote:

At 11/5/06 01:09 PM, internet-lord wrote:

Austraila is in the EU? Learn something new everyday i suppose.

Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, WOAH! When the hell did this happen? That doesn't make sense! How can a country that's not even in Europe be a part of the E.U.?????

Australias not in the EU.

Theres a country in SOuth america which is in the EU though as well as overseas territory like Falklands, British virgin Islands etc.....
Turkey recently joined the EU even so only 5% is in europe the other 95% is in asia.
Russia is a contendor for the EU, even so most is in asia.

EU is Political not geographical.

Why the hell dont we just ask him.

LolOutLoud is Austrail in the EU??

At 11/5/06 02:08 PM, internet-lord wrote: Why the hell dont we just ask him.

LolOutLoud is Austrail in the EU??

No it's not. Maybe he's a european in australia.

At 11/5/06 02:22 PM, zzzzd wrote:

At 11/5/06 02:08 PM, internet-lord wrote: Why the hell dont we just ask him.

LolOutLoud is Austrail in the EU??

No it's not. Maybe he's a european in australia.

ah yes of course. What county do you think hes from. I say germany,

At 11/5/06 03:08 PM, internet-lord wrote:

At 11/5/06 02:22 PM, zzzzd wrote:

At 11/5/06 02:08 PM, internet-lord wrote: Why the hell dont we just ask him.

LolOutLoud is Austrail in the EU??

No it's not. Maybe he's a european in australia.

ah yes of course. What county do you think hes from. I say germany,

I mean what country do you think hes origionally from

At 11/5/06 10:41 AM, Denta wrote: If the Soviets didn't go for Berlin, Hitler would still be alive and fight for much longer, he still thought he didn't lose!

Yeah, with the tremendous factory facilities in bombed out Berlin and the millions of young, ready recruits in bombed out Berlin.

It meant nothing, the war was over and Hitler could do nothing but try to escape (which he refused to do) or sit and wait for death. The battle for Berlin was just a formality, nothing more. And given enough time I believe the city would have been surrendured and Hitler assasinated and betrayed by his own people. The only reason the Soviets attacked is the city likely would have been surrendured to the Allies if it was surrendured and they didnt want that.

At 11/5/06 11:15 AM, LolOutLoud wrote: I'd feel safer with China as the world leader.

Heh, a country that is totalitarian and culturally much different from the West. Cant say I expected a Westerner to say that. I hope you like censorship :P

If the US attacked any European country; that would cause World war 3.

Why the fuck would the USA ever attack Europe you fuckin stupid crackhead? Its not even worth debating who would win in a war because we wouldnt fight against eachother, you fucking retard.

america will be better when george bush gets his retarded @$$ out of office!!

until then, gomen to those harmed due to how retarded bush is.

At 11/5/06 11:15 AM, LolOutLoud wrote: I don't see America as a superpower either actually.

When no country will risk going to war with you because they're scared you'll whip their asses back to the stone-age, you're a super power. When no country will risk going to war with another country because they're afraid you'll whip their ass anyways, you're the United States or the UK.

It's really not up for fuckin discussion.

I'd feel safer with China as the world leader.

You'll read that in a year and think yourself as stupid as I do of you right now. China has among the worst human rights laws of any country on the planet. Their social netting is total shit. For whatever eason you seem to think the United States is a bunch of dicks, China beats us hands down in being total dicks about being the best "upper crust" in society. If you honestly wanted to show how little you know of what you're talking about, you just did it with that coment.

Europe is way better than teh US.

Last time I checked Europe wasn't a country. Also last time I checked, Europe was so good that everyone got as far away as humanly possible from it and started a new country. I wonder which one that was...

Also, The EU military power is far greater than that of the US.

EU, also not a country. I like your imagination, though. This dream that the EU acts like congress, or even parliament for that matter. Everyone eating crumpets and dick-tickling eachother. The EU bickers and bitches with eachother all the time. It works as a quasi confederate system. That is, if your plan is to talk easily amongst eachother but still never get anything done.

The EU have set up a treaty that will oblige members to defend each other in case of a threat.

Gee, that little strategy didn't fuck up your continent at all when it started World War I.

At 11/5/06 01:54 PM, internet-lord wrote: Well in that huge text that LolOutLoud did he said he is in the EU and his profile says he is from austraila

Hehehe, you guys need to learn to think outside teh square.
I've got two nationalities; I was born on French soil and moved to Australia when I was 11.
Se yeah... I'm european and I live in Australia. Australia is not part of the EU (DUH)

At 11/6/06 02:52 AM, Nylo wrote:

I'd feel safer with China as the world leader.

You'll read that in a year and think yourself as stupid as I do of you right now. China has among the worst human rights laws of any country on the planet. Their social netting is total shit. For whatever eason you seem to think the United States is a bunch of dicks, China beats us hands down in being total dicks about being the best "upper crust" in society. If you honestly wanted to show how little you know of what you're talking about, you just did it with that coment.

Hehe, China is moving towards democracy... In fact it's the only way it will completely escape poverty. Once China has set up a fully-functioning Republic, they'll be fine. Right now it's still a bit caught up in comunism... But now the rich parts of China are under a near-total republic.

Europe is way better than teh US.

Last time I checked Europe wasn't a country. Also last time I checked, Europe was so good that everyone got as far away as humanly possible from it and started a new country. I wonder which one that was...

Does it actually matter if it's not a country? We all know Europeans would fight together. The cultures are mixing... People from spain have family living in germany, france, swittzerland, etc... They might have different nationalities, but they have the same interests.

Also, The EU military power is far greater than that of the US.

EU, also not a country. I like your imagination, though. This dream that the EU acts like congress, or even parliament for that matter. Everyone eating crumpets and dick-tickling eachother. The EU bickers and bitches with eachother all the time. It works as a quasi confederate system. That is, if your plan is to talk easily amongst eachother but still never get anything done.

The EU have set up a treaty that will oblige members to defend each other in case of a threat.

Gee, that little strategy didn't fuck up your continent at all when it started World War I.

The EU is fairly new. It didn't exist back then... European nations get along too well with each other to fight now... I mean they even have the same currency. It's like if Australia and New Zealand went to war. It just wouldn't happen. Australia has strong cultural links with NZ. It's the same with members of the EU. There are no laws to define that link, but it exists.

At 11/5/06 11:15 AM, LolOutLoud wrote: I don't see America as a superpower either actually.

Because you're a misguided dipshit.

When you say "Superpower" the first country that comes to my mind is China.

Because you WANT China to be the superpower in your own clueless little mind

It might not be this great now. But in a few years it will totally shit on the Americans.
it's got over 1billion people and the world's fastest growing economy.

Yet it's income per capita is 1/5th what it is in the US, their military has no ability to operate outside of its borders, and it is a communist nation that opresses it's people. China won't usurpe the US as the superpower for a long time

I'd feel safer with China as the world leader.

You just completely proved that you are a moron and from henceforth have absolutely no credibility

Europe is way better than teh US.
The European Union has 457 million people.
It's purchasing power is $12.18 trillion

And the US has 300 million people, and has a purchasing power of $12.4 trillion and has DOUBLE the economic growth rate.

US:
Imports Spendings: $1.727 trillion
Exports Revenues: $927.5 billion

That disregards domestic market dipshit. Which the US has the largest in the world, bigger than the EU (Which in case you didn't know is not a single country ANYWAY)

Also, The EU military power is far greater than that of the US.

You're so fucking wrong its hilarious. Europe has more military personnel, but is ENTIRELY INFERIOR to the US in strength, technology, and force projection. The only 2 European countries that can even fight outside of their borders without American aide is France and the UK, but they each would still need American military aide to sustain war for longer than a few months.

You're just proving you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Europes combined military's would be bigger, yet they would get annihilated by American forces because they lack the cohesion, equipment, and strategic positioning to even threaten the US significantly. Not to mention that the US already technically occupies Europe having 100s of thousands of troops in Germany, UK, Italy, Spain, and so forth. This is while Europe doesn't even have the ability to send troops to attack America, and if they tried, they would leave their cities and capitols defenseless against overwhelmingly superior American air-power. Europe doesn't even have stealth aircraft and most of their anti-aircraft systems are provided by the US.

American airpower would quickly cripple the European infrastructure, communications, electricity, factories and so forth and the government buildings would all be destroyed. Europe would cease exist as a functioning opponent for longer than a few months at most.

Europe is a lameduck without American military support, if you actually think Europe is more militarily powerful than the US you are either completely uninformed and uneducated, or you're just saying that because you WISH that was true.

The EU have set up a treaty that will oblige members to defend each other in case of a threat.

This is while the US is the backbone of almost every individual military of each of those countries. How many EU countries are in NATO? Who leads NATO? Even if Europe actually united against the US, which it COULD NOT and WOULD NOT, they completely lack the sheer power, cohesion, technology, and sheer overwhelming force that the US has.

No European country could even strike the US homeland with anything other than nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles. But considering the US has missile silos INSIDE OF EUROPE ALREADY that would be an act of suicide.

Europe is COMPLETELY reliant on America aide and cooperation for their own defense. The US has more forces in the Europe than any other military, the US controls the nuclear deterrent of the UK, and has missile silos in Germany and Italy, hundreds of airbases, and over 100,000 combat troops that are equiped, trained and supported by a much more advanced communications, command and control than any European country.

If the US attacked any European country; that would cause World war 3. All of Europe against America and We all know Europe would win. The US population isn't distributed enough. All we would have to do is bomb: Washington DC, New York, Chicago and a few others... And teh Americans would surrender.

You're a fucking imbecile. Anyone who thinks Europe would win is a moron. In order for Europe to attack US cities they would need to cross the ocean that is DOMINATED by American naval forces that are vastly superior. Meanwhile, Europe's ability to wage war would be completely destroyed by the forces the US already has in Europe.

You sir, are an uneducated, misguided, irrationally confident little moron. Do some research. Anyone with a shred of education and knowledge of things pertaining to world militaries would laugh in your face.

On the other hand, If the US wanted to defeat the EU, they would have to bomb every caital city of every european nation and 100s of military bases scattered all accross a land area that exceeds that of teh US.

No they don't The US has more military bases in Europe than the native national militaries. Europe doesn't even have the ability to strike at the US, the US would have a complete free-ride to bomb the shit out of Europe because the US already controls most of Europes airdefense system, and has stealth aircraft that would fly and bomb freely with impunity while European militaries wouldn't know where the fuck US forces were, where their own forces were, and what their orders were because the European command and control systems would be bombed into oblivion.

Honestly, Americans should stop boasting how good they are as a nation. Europeans should start boasting how good they are as a people.

Even though Europe is divided by politics, languages, races and national identities. Europe is completely reliant on America economically and militarily. They can't boast about anything and attack the US when their VERY EXISTENCE depends on the goodwill of the country they love to hate.

As a European myself, I believe that we are one people oprating under many governments.

You're deluding yourself.

Theyre bullies pretending to be saviors !

At 11/6/06 05:17 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 11/5/06 11:15 AM, LolOutLoud wrote: Europe is way better than teh US.
The European Union has 457 million people.
It's purchasing power is $12.18 trillion

US:
Imports Spendings: $1.727 trillion
Exports Revenues: $927.5 billion

That disregards domestic market dipshit. Which the US has the largest in the world, bigger than the EU (Which in case you didn't know is not a single country ANYWAY)

I told you someone would say that. "The EU isnt one country" I fucking knew it. I can predict the future Mu ha ha ha

America is a big bully, but personally I they keep up their actions. Sooner or later the underdog countries are going to work together, and attack america. I think.

At 11/5/06 04:09 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

Ask any EDUCATED, non-biased person and they will tell you the US is the worlds Superpower, has been for a long time, and will continue to be for a long time.

No, it won't.

Great... Another bullshit Anti-American thread.

Yes, America is the world power, and yes, it does piss off a lot of countries, but I doubt all of those countries would band together to fight America.

So in short, America will, without question be the World Power for years to come until they become divided, far more divided then they are right now.

At 11/6/06 05:17 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

Yet it's income per capita is 1/5th what it is in the US, their military has no ability to operate outside of its borders, and it is a communist nation that opresses it's people. China won't usurpe the US as the superpower for a long time

It will though, the rate it's growing, There already designing an aircraft at the same level of the Eurofighter an F-22 Raptor

I'd feel safer with China as the world leader.

You just completely proved that you are a moron and from henceforth have absolutely no credibility

lol I wouldn't feel safer with China as a super power, I don't like it one bit.

Europe is way better than teh US.
The European Union has 457 million people.
It's purchasing power is $12.18 trillion

And the US has 300 million people, and has a purchasing power of $12.4 trillion and has DOUBLE the economic growth rate.

At the moment, Growth rate changes regulaly, in the last 40years Europe as gone from an Economy 5 times less than americas to basically equal.

US:
Imports Spendings: $1.727 trillion
Exports Revenues: $927.5 billion

That disregards domestic market dipshit. Which the US has the largest in the world, bigger than the EU (Which in case you didn't know is not a single country ANYWAY)

The Eu doesn't need to be a single country.
The US relies more on European imports than Europe relies on Us imports

Also, The EU military power is far greater than that of the US.

You're so fucking wrong its hilarious. Europe has more military personnel, but is ENTIRELY INFERIOR to the US in strength, technology, and force projection. The only 2 European countries that can even fight outside of their borders without American aide is France and the UK, but they each would still need American military aide to sustain war for longer than a few months.

It's not entirely Inferior to the US. America is more technology advanced. Howether, Britain and france are at pretty much the same level as the US, Not sure about France but Britain could send its army anywere in the world and sustain for a large period of time.

You're just proving you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Europes combined military's would be bigger, yet they would get annihilated by American forces because they lack the cohesion, equipment, and strategic positioning to even threaten the US significantly. Not to mention that the US already technically occupies Europe having 100s of thousands of troops in Germany, UK, Italy, Spain, and so forth. This is while Europe doesn't even have the ability to send troops to attack America, and if they tried, they would leave their cities and capitols defenseless against overwhelmingly superior American air-power. Europe doesn't even have stealth aircraft and most of their anti-aircraft systems are provided by the US.

If a war was to break out (which is so stupid) the american troops in Europe would of instantly been seized. Britain has a number of large Naval bases Around the Americas.
Falklands, Carrebian and Bemuda.
If America was to attack Europe, they would fail, and If europe was to attack America they would fail. And also other countries would most likely step in on either side.
If america Invaded europe, I expect the commonwealth would most likely help the EU as well as Russia.

American airpower would quickly cripple the European infrastructure, communications, electricity, factories and so forth and the government buildings would all be destroyed. Europe would cease exist as a functioning opponent for longer than a few months at most.

Europe could equally do that to america, it's not like invading Iraq, Most EUropean Countries are extremely advanced.

Europe is a lameduck without American military support, if you actually think Europe is more militarily powerful than the US you are either completely uninformed and uneducated, or you're just saying that because you WISH that was true.

Europe is not more Militarily powerful than the US, But far to powerfull for america to succesfully take out europe.

The EU have set up a treaty that will oblige members to defend each other in case of a threat.

This is while the US is the backbone of almost every individual military of each of those countries. How many EU countries are in NATO? Who leads NATO? Even if Europe actually united against the US, which it COULD NOT and WOULD NOT, they completely lack the sheer power, cohesion, technology, and sheer overwhelming force that the US has.

The US isn't anymore though, NATO isn't what it was, EU has started telling the US what to do on occasions. THe US has no say in EU policies,
The EU couldn't attack america an win but america couldnt attack europe an win.

No European country could even strike the US homeland with anything other than nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles. But considering the US has missile silos INSIDE OF EUROPE ALREADY that would be an act of suicide.

Britain and france could quite easily send cruise missiles at america within minutes.
As soon as the war started, aircraft could of taken off from any of the naval bases around america

At 11/6/06 05:17 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

Europe is COMPLETELY reliant on America aide and cooperation for their own defense. The US has more forces in the Europe than any other military, the US controls the nuclear deterrent of the UK, and has missile silos in Germany and Italy, hundreds of airbases, and over 100,000 combat troops that are equiped, trained and supported by a much more advanced communications, command and control than any European country.

thats bollocks europe isn't reliant on america at all. Europe allows america to have bases in there countries, because americas so far away from the rest of the world. American bases arn;t there because they need the US support, the US is allowed them there so there nearer to the middle east an stuff. lol Any european country could tell them to go when ever they want but as america and europe are close allies they let them. Britain could have bases in america but theres no need. we own a fair amount of islands in the area anyway and theres no threat on that bit of the world anyway (except argentinia, whom Britain has a close eye on)

If the US attacked any European country; that would cause World war 3. All of Europe against America and We all know Europe would win. The US population isn't distributed enough. All we would have to do is bomb: Washington DC, New York, Chicago and a few others... And teh Americans would surrender.

You're a fucking imbecile. Anyone who thinks Europe would win is a moron. In order for Europe to attack US cities they would need to cross the ocean that is DOMINATED by American naval forces that are vastly superior. Meanwhile, Europe's ability to wage war would be completely destroyed by the forces the US already has in Europe.

It would be difficult for europe to take out major cities, but not impossible, same with america takin out european cities.

You sir, are an uneducated, misguided, irrationally confident little moron. Do some research. Anyone with a shred of education and knowledge of things pertaining to world militaries would laugh in your face.

And anyone with a shred of education, knoledge of things pertaining to world militaries would laugh in your face when you said america could take out europe, lol It's stupid

On the other hand, If the US wanted to defeat the EU, they would have to bomb every caital city of every european nation and 100s of military bases scattered all accross a land area that exceeds that of teh US.

Honestly, Americans should stop boasting how good they are as a nation. Europeans should start boasting how good they are as a people.

Even though Europe is divided by politics, languages, races and national identities. Europe is completely reliant on America economically and militarily. They can't boast about anything and attack the US when their VERY EXISTENCE depends on the goodwill of the country they love to hate.

lol your such a biased twat, Europe isn;t reliant on american military, the bases are there because we let them be there not cause we need them, If we didnt let them be there you'd have to crawl across the atlantic all the time.
And althrough the EU has been divided by polotics, they still have the same overall goals, ands it's definitly coming more together, as for language which is apparently the main factor
57% of the people in the EU speak English as a second language as well as 8% speaking it as a first
Economically, america and Europe are eachothers biggest partners, They both relie on each other hugely, So if there was a war both the US and the EU would collapse,

America and the EU amount to 57% of the worlds trade USA 28% EU 29%
they also are both each others main trade.

the USA spends 251.3 Billion on imports from the EU
the EU spends 162.9 Billion on imports from the US

So they both relie hugely on each other

the EU doesn;t even want a massive Military at the moment the EU is becoming a super power a different way, in the next 10years the EU will definitly be able to be classed as a super power if not already now.

I hate America cous it makes crap cars

Are you implying taht Scotland cars are better? HaHa! if you are saying that American cars suck then your saying that your cars suck as well as European cars and just about everyother country. the reason i say that is because we dont make cars in are country very much anymore, cost to much, instead we have other countries make them and ship them over. that is why our car companies have weird names for an American company.