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At 10/30/06 03:35 AM, Deadpool wrote: Christians are called christians but do not worship christ they worship god.

Jews are called jews, but do not worship jew, they worship god.

*sigh*

At 10/30/06 04:54 AM, Leonardo-Da-Finchy wrote: Paganism is an umbrella term, used for most polytheistic religions. Wicca is a form of paganism, but paganism includes Hellenicism, Shamanism, Druidism, and more, including worship of Roman, Norse, or Egyptian Gods.

but they call themselves something relevant to what they believe.

At 10/29/06 09:29 PM, BanditByte wrote: Call it what you like, but the fact remains that's a basically a way for individuals to lash out at an over-bearing Christian society.

You know BB, you’re not as stupid as I once thought.

Now if only you’d stop calling Muslims Mohammedans…

At 10/30/06 02:17 PM, MickTheChampion wrote: They call themselves Satanists to try and outrage us - it's the same reason they wear make-up and cut themselves.

It's not outrageous these days, just irritating.

Did I miss something? Since when are satanists either emos or goths?

At 10/30/06 02:33 PM, Athlas wrote:

At 10/30/06 02:17 PM, MickTheChampion wrote: They call themselves Satanists to try and outrage us - it's the same reason they wear make-up and cut themselves.

It's not outrageous these days, just irritating.

Did I miss something? Since when are satanists either emos or goths?

Someone's getting the wrong end of the proverbial stick, here.

At 10/30/06 02:42 PM, Leonardo-Da-Finchy wrote: Someone's getting the wrong end of the proverbial stick, here.

Err...what?

At 10/29/06 11:09 PM, Vrael wrote:

At 10/29/06 05:34 PM, Bassistic wrote: who says satanists do not worship satan??

most satanists dont worship satan they are pagan only like 20% of satanists actually worship satan and most of that 20% are americans theres like a million followers or so

did you know 70% of statistics are made up on the spot?

satanism actually sounds much more practical and realistic compared to most religions, sort of like a type of paganism but without bothering with gods or anything like that. one thing i dont get- if they dont worship satan, didn't they ever think calling themselves after him would give the wrong impression?

At 10/30/06 02:43 PM, Athlas wrote:

At 10/30/06 02:42 PM, Leonardo-Da-Finchy wrote: Someone's getting the wrong end of the proverbial stick, here.

Err...what?

Cool, I found another brit saying that's uncommon everywhere else.

To "get the wrong end of the stick" is to get the wrong meaning of something. Like thinking you've been insulted when someone tries to compliment you.

getting the wrong end of the stick is a proverb, hence, it is sometimes said that you "get the wrong end of the proverbial stick".

*bows* thankyou, thankyou.

At 10/29/06 05:41 PM, fli wrote:

At 10/29/06 05:36 PM, Peter-II wrote: Luciferians

Yeah--
They believe he is a Tragic Hero and that he set an example for humanity to follow.

Your reading to much Paradise Lost Fli.

A tragic hero was someone like Romeo, Ulysesuee's or maybe Macbeth and Brutus.

At 10/30/06 03:17 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: A tragic hero was someone like Romeo, Ulysesuee's or maybe Macbeth and Brutus.

Nah, Macbeth can't be classed as a tragic hero, he's not admirable.. Now Oedipus is a great example of a tragic hero.. An admirable man who committed the ultimate crimes out of no fault of his own and yet he still constantly aimed for the truth.

At 10/30/06 03:35 AM, Deadpool wrote: Christians are called christians but do not worship christ they worship god.

Christ is God, and Christians do worship Christ.

At 10/30/06 03:22 PM, neoptolemus wrote: Nah, Macbeth can't be classed as a tragic hero, he's not admirable..

Okay…so he murdered a few people, so what? He was originally a good man who was corrupted by his wife’s ambition and other things. He realised his sins and repented.

That’s why I like Macbeth, he’s an imperfect hero, which adds to the tragedy.

Of course….it goes without saying that Shakespeare’s vision of the king is nothing compared to the real Macbeth (who’s castle incidentally, was in my wee town).

At 10/30/06 03:17 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 10/29/06 05:41 PM, fli wrote:

At 10/29/06 05:36 PM, Peter-II wrote: Luciferians

Yeah--
They believe he is a Tragic Hero and that he set an example for humanity to follow.

Your reading to much Paradise Lost Fli.

"Oh miserable of happy, is this the end of this new, glorious, world?" - John Milton, Paradise Lost.

Amazing book.

A tragic hero was someone like Romeo, Ulysesuee's or maybe Macbeth and Brutus.

I agree with Romeo and MacBeth, but I'd hardly call Brutus a hero, let alone a tragic one.

At 10/30/06 03:37 PM, Athlas wrote:

At 10/30/06 03:17 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 10/29/06 05:41 PM, fli wrote:

At 10/29/06 05:36 PM, Peter-II wrote:

I agree with Romeo and MacBeth, but I'd hardly call Brutus a hero, let alone a tragic one.

If you read Shakespeares Juluis Ceaser.

He comes out to be a tragic hero.

At 10/30/06 03:49 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: If you read Shakespeares Juluis Ceaser.

He comes out to be a tragic hero.

Hmm, you'd figure I realised you were refering to Shakespeare, with the names Romeo and MacBeth dropping, wouldn't you?

At 10/30/06 03:54 PM, Athlas wrote:

At 10/30/06 03:49 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

Hmm, you'd figure I realised you were refering to Shakespeare, with the names Romeo and MacBeth dropping, wouldn't you?

Maybe, maybe not.

You would think that on this board.

But unlike Cassuis, Brutus had deep doubts and regrets much like Macbeth did.

At 10/30/06 03:35 AM, Deadpool wrote: Christians are called christians but do not worship christ they worship god.

No, Christ is god.

I tihnk there might be something wrong with me, i never really liked Shakespeare as a playwright, i mean i prefer the good old three tragedians of Greece (Sophocles, Aeschylus and Euripides)

At 10/29/06 08:59 PM, Musik-of-Anarchy wrote: Satanism is about the god in men right?

Correct. Oddly enough it carries principles similar to those found in black magic cults such as Dragon Rouge or even the Operating Thetan concept in Scientology... *rubs chin* hmm...

This entire topic is full of Satanic Lore and I loathe its presence on this site. We all know, or should know, that the Holy Trinity is the One True God, and all others are false. The idea of the Dark One being worthy of worship makes me sick. Let us not go down that road. No one should ever be permitted to dabble in such dark sided stuff as it only leads to one place...

At 10/30/06 04:55 PM, jlwelch wrote: No one should ever be permitted to dabble in such dark sided stuff as it only leads to one place...

The restrictions of the first ammendment and basic human freedoms.

At 10/30/06 04:56 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 10/30/06 04:55 PM, jlwelch wrote: No one should ever be permitted to dabble in such dark sided stuff as it only leads to one place...

The restrictions of the first ammendment and basic human freedoms.

The Laws of man are flawed, the laws of God are higher and just.

1st Commandment: Thou shalt haveth no other gods before me.

At 10/30/06 04:59 PM, jlwelch wrote:

At 10/30/06 04:56 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 10/30/06 04:55 PM, jlwelch wrote:

1st Commandment: Thou shalt haveth no other gods before me.

Secular nation.

First Ammendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

At 10/30/06 05:01 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: First Ammendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Dude, he's just going to come back with "the laws of God are higher than any man's laws" and it will just become a cyclic argument of whose laws are superior. jwelch you've no place in this topic if you're going to argue pro-God and contribute nothing to a better understanding of the thinking behind Satanism. You are exactly the type of person the thread-starter was trying to get away from when he formed this thread. Either contribute something to the thoughts fueling Satanism or stick to the other threads. This is not a Christianity/God thread, it is stirctly about Satanist ideology.

At 10/30/06 05:08 PM, EnragedSephiroth wrote: Dude,

Whoops, sorry about that. The thread starter I was talking about was concerning the Atheist "Does God Exist" thread. The thread starter here was talking about satanism only though.

since when did jwelch go super Bible troll?

At 10/30/06 05:11 PM, UnusQuoMeridianus wrote: since when did jwelch go super Bible troll?

Since when was he anything but?

I’m backing him for Best Troll in the awards.

If you are reffering to Lucifer, the 'Devil' former angel in the bible who goes against god and is cast into hell, It's called Luciferianism.

Although even then, philosophical Luciferianism isn't even about the real devil.

At 10/30/06 03:32 PM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote:

At 10/30/06 03:22 PM, neoptolemus wrote:

Blah blah blah, Roman this, Greek that, Sig Heil Shakespear.

Puh-lease. Those 'heroes' are all panty waists. You want 'tragic hero', read the Norse Saga's. Saying 'Tragic Hero' about them is like saying "Smart Genius"; is there any other kind?

At 10/30/06 05:53 PM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote:

At 10/30/06 05:11 PM, UnusQuoMeridianus wrote: since when did jwelch go super Bible troll?

Since when was he anything but?

I’m backing him for Best Troll in the awards.

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