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i bet most of you clicking on this are thinking " no you fucking moron" or " do you watch full metal alchemist or sumthing." Well actually i hat full metal alchemist and no i go to a decent school with decent grades ( 11th grader b's and c's). So this is about REAL alchemy. I was thinking about buying sum alchemy books for entertainmenr,fun, and even a little science purposes. so if you think it's real giv me sum tips and just talk about it i'm bored. Well i hope you enjoy this blog or thread or whatever you wanna call it.


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Sigh alchemy is very real, think of it this way If we boil a pot of seawater, have that steam go into a bucket then it seperates the salt and water then you boil the bucket and get seawater
we use alchemy, equivilent exchange is a law of it but its also a law of life as far as im concerned, i mean we cant Take Non existant elements and make things with them.
so have a trip w that one.


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Well, when the Ancient Chinese alchemists were trying to find immortality, they made gunpowder. Maybe alchemy is real in some ways.

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No.

You can't change lead into gold.

You won't be creating diamonds.

Alchemy is fake.

If you want to get into this scientifically, you could note that lead is 2 spaces away from gold on a periodic table. This means that lead would have to gain or lose (I forgot if it was 2 spaces before or after)2 protons. Removing a proton from a cell causes a nuclear reaction and all participants would be dead.

Alchemy is fake.

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no, you are still a fucking moron- real alchemist tried to put together diffrent atoms and elements to make gold, but this task is impossible. you will learn about it in Physical Science.

i have no idea why Full Metal used those circle things to do this... is it religeon?


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Let's just say, you won't be resurecting some annoying ass suit of armor any time soon.

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Alchemy isn't real. Chemistry, on the other hand, is.

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At 10/27/06 10:41 PM, dumbbannaman wrote: i bet most of you clicking on this are thinking " no you fucking moron" or " do you watch full metal alchemist or sumthing." Well actually i hat full metal alchemist and no i go to a decent school with decent grades ( 11th grader b's and c's). So this is about REAL alchemy. I was thinking about buying sum alchemy books for entertainmenr,fun, and even a little science purposes. so if you think it's real giv me sum tips and just talk about it i'm bored. Well i hope you enjoy this blog or thread or whatever you wanna call it.

b's and c's just mean you're the best of the stupid.

Alchemy is not real. Neither is Mary Shelly's Frankenstein. The study began with knowledge they didn't have that we do now that can be used to prove Alchemy doesn't work.


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I'm level 72

I can make mega health potions.

It's very real.

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At 10/27/06 10:45 PM, xPaRaDoXx wrote: no, you are still a fucking moron- real alchemist tried to put together diffrent atoms and elements to make gold, but this task is impossible. you will learn about it in Physical Science.

i have no idea why Full Metal used those circle things to do this... is it religeon?

no they are greek symbols like the Triangle represented the element sulfur
thats how it worked.


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Ugh, to all the people saying "lead can't turn into gold", shut up.
Yes, it is true that it can't be turned into actual gold, it can be turned into a substance similar to gold. It's called "synthesis", it synthesizes gold as opposed to becoming it, it gives the illusion of lead being gold.


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At 10/27/06 10:47 PM, Shady-Joe wrote: I'm level 72

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At 10/27/06 10:51 PM, xPaRaDoXx wrote:
At 10/27/06 10:47 PM, Shady-Joe wrote: I'm level 72
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Rofl looks who's talkin

Wher'd you get this?-

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no, you are still a fucking moron- real alchemist tried to put together diffrent atoms and elements to make gold, but this task is impossible. you will learn about it in Physical Science.

i have no idea why Full Metal used those circle things to do this... is it religeon?guys why are you trying to insult me i'm just asking a question. If alchemy some how offends you but geez. i'm just looking for sumthing to do. I'm bored and i kno that you can't turn lead into old i just thought the subject would be interesting.


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Full Metal Alchemist >>> you

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Anyways. Yes alchemy is real. It's fact. It's not the same as the FMA kind though.

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No shit is real. You would have to mix metals that are the equivalent to gold.

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At 10/27/06 10:57 PM, dumbbannaman wrote:
i have no idea why Full Metal used those circle things to do this... is it religeon?guys why are you trying to insult me i'm just asking a question. If alchemy some how offends you but geez. i'm just looking for sumthing to do. I'm bored and i kno that you can't turn lead into old i just thought the subject would be interesting.

READ My response in the above post about the symbols i researched alchemy for a Chem project once


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besides guyz i'm just so fing bored so i though of alchemy. And by the way the circles aren't a religon like that guy said.


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At 10/27/06 10:57 PM, RyanKajito wrote: Anyways. Yes alchemy is real. It's fact. It's not the same as the FMA kind though.

Then explain to me some kinds of "alchemy" that isn't chemistry.

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At 10/27/06 10:57 PM, RyanKajito wrote: Full Metal Alchemist >>> you

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Fucking agreed.

Anyways. Yes alchemy is real. It's fact. It's not the same as the FMA kind though.

Exactly. Like I had previously stated, it is about synthesizing substances, it isn't some kind of magic that makes precious goods from nothing. I really wish the people who don't get this would keep shut about it.


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At 10/27/06 10:48 PM, Gendo wrote: Ugh, to all the people saying "lead can't turn into gold", shut up.
Yes, it is true that it can't be turned into actual gold, it can be turned into a substance similar to gold. It's called "synthesis", it synthesizes gold as opposed to becoming it, it gives the illusion of lead being gold.

My main arguement was how alchemy is fake, this "lead to gold" thing was an example. It is the cliche people think of when they say "alchemy", right?

In your paragraph, you more or less state that

A) Lead can't turn to gold
B) Alchemy is fake

You say right here "it synthesizes gold as opposed to becoming it, it gives the illusion of lead being gold."

This, we must then infer, means that alchemists who attempted this practice made an illusion of gold, ie: fake gold. We could state that alchemists are in reality masters of illusion. Illusion=/=real, therefore alchemy is fake.

I don't mean to be rude, but you basically called me a dumbass and then said that I was right, I needed to refute your claim.

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i did read it i just copied it from that guy ithought it'd turn all gray and stuff.


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Looking at your grammar I really doubt you are in 11th grade. Also, alchemy isn't real, alchemy is usually referring to turning various metals into gold.

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Yes it is possible to turn lead into gold, if you have -alot- of money and a few scientists at your disposal.

Other Alchemy type things that they figured out on the way to trying to turn lead into gold is just chemistry.


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Well, the idea of a sorceror's (philosopher's) stone is impossible. Eternal life may be possible, I don't know. However, changing metal into gold is not. As gold is a single element, as are most metals, changing its entire structure isn't possible.

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Technically, it is possible to turn lead into gold (we know enough science to know that it is possible).

However, the energy required to perform the task would cost more then the weight of gold. Basically, it would cost more to just make the gold then it would profit to buy lead and sell the resulting gold.

Thus, no one wants to develope the technology to do it, simply because it would only be for novel purposes.


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It could be possible to reach everlasting life by increasing the length of the DNA primers in your cells to your cells can split forever but there would be way more to it then that (and that isn't a simple task either, it could very well be impossible).


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Alchemy as in chemistry is obviously real, but alchemy as in FMA obivously isn't either

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Lol, with your grammar and spelling, I bet you did go to a "decent school wit decent grads and such" But yeah, Alchemy is real, but it's not as exciting or cool as it's shown in FMA :\

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At 10/27/06 11:01 PM, Unimportant wrote: I don't mean to be rude, but you basically called me a dumbass and then said that I was right, I needed to refute your claim.

I wasn't inferring you were a dumbass, I just hate it when people just say "lead can't become gold" and automatically assume that means alchemy isn't real.


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