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At 3/25/03 09:13 PM, Muton_flash wrote: I guess i did. Thanks for accepting you loss...

im a little lost, i thought he was making fun of benisveryc00l....maybe i misunderstood.

Boooo, bring out the rapping granny.

At 3/25/03 09:41 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Boooo, bring out the rapping granny.

The rapping granny? Am I unaware of something? Please, further enlighten me on this phenomenon that is mysterious to me that you call the "rapping granny".

Kazou Kiriyama

At 3/25/03 08:19 PM, Kazou_Kiriyama wrote: I agree. Bush is a pretty under-appreciated man. So far, I think he's done quite an acceptable job with running our country. I know that's not the cool thing to say, but I can't lie to myself. I think he's just the man our nation needed to pull our ass out of the dark ages of the Clinton administration.

Yes, how horrible it was to have a prosperous economy, peace, an intelligent and coherent leader, the admiration and cooperation of much of the world, the ability to go abroad w/o being loathed, and our civil liberties intact. I know I much rather having things the way they are now. Dark ages indeed.

Bah. Things just HAPPENED to go good while Clinton was in power. You can’t credit him on everything. Think about it, in the eight years he was in power the only crisis he ever faced was the Oklahoma City bombing and the questioning of who was waxing his wang that week. When Bush Sr. & Reagan were in power, they had REAL issues in front of them. I shudder to imagine what it would be like today if he was still in power. We need a real man of action like Bush Jr. in a time like this.

Kazou Kiriyama

At 3/25/03 10:15 PM, Crack_Smoker wrote:

At 3/25/03 08:19 PM, Kazou_Kiriyama wrote: I agree. Bush is a pretty under-appreciated man. So far, I think he's done quite an acceptable job with running our country. I know that's not the cool thing to say, but I can't lie to myself. I think he's just the man our nation needed to pull our ass out of the dark ages of the Clinton administration.

Yes, how horrible it was to have a prosperous economy, peace, an intelligent and coherent leader, the admiration and cooperation of much of the world, the ability to go abroad w/o being loathed, and our civil liberties intact. I know I much rather having things the way they are now. Dark ages indeed.

HA! the only reason he was so loved by the world was because he had no backbone! if they asked or demanded, he gave it! hell, he was spilling nuclear bomb secrets to China the whole damn time. As for intelligent and coherent? riiiiight... so THATS why he f'ed the interns! and the civil liberties? they have been in the constitution for a long time, he just decided to give all the "gimmes" a buttload of money in the form of welfare. Oh and then he kept the borders unchecked so now those of us living here in cali are faced with a HUGE illegal immigrant problem. Clinton was a brainless slimeball who went to the white house just in time to hose the country over.

At 3/25/03 10:43 PM, Kazou_Kiriyama wrote: Bah. Things just HAPPENED to go good while Clinton was in power.

this is very true.

some say the economy went to crap after bush got into office, they also clinton helped build the economy to the point it was at before that, but this is not true. the economy was in good shape under the clintonistas because programs set up by the reagan and bush years put the economy in motion.

clinton was not a very good president, he tainted the image of the office and i refuse to see him as more than a filler between the bushes

Wow...

Such cool Bush pictures.
Long Live Bush!

Saddam

Bah. This is the worst thread I've ever laid eyes on. So many general forum "OMG BUSH ROXORZ" people in one place is a recipe for disaster. The Politics Forum didn't do anything to deserve such raving idiocy. Please, someone close this before people start hurting themselves with their own idiocy. The Council has spoken.

At 3/26/03 12:14 AM, fourdaddy wrote:

At 3/25/03 10:43 PM, Kazou_Kiriyama wrote: Bah. Things just HAPPENED to go good while Clinton was in power.

this is very true.

some say the economy went to crap after bush got into office, they also clinton helped build the economy to the point it was at before that, but this is not true. the economy was in good shape under the clintonistas because programs set up by the reagan and bush years put the economy in motion.

clinton was not a very good president, he tainted the image of the office and i refuse to see him as more than a filler between the bushes

People also conveniently forget that the internet just happened to explode when Clinton was in office. His policies did nothing to facilitate it, but he was the lucky recipient of the economic windfall it caused. Of course, just like his presidency, it was shown for the artificially inflated entity it was and it came back down to Earth. The economy was already on a downturn his last year, year and half in office. Of course, Bush gets the blame.

Note to President Bush: When we get Saddam Hussein out of power(that's a WHEN,not an IF) why not turn your attention towards the French? You did say after Sept. 11 that anyone who did not support us in the war on terrorism was against us, right? And the French sure as hell ain't supporting us!

At 3/26/03 10:03 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: Bah. This is the worst thread I've ever laid eyes on. So many general forum "OMG BUSH ROXORZ" people in one place is a recipe for disaster. The Politics Forum didn't do anything to deserve such raving idiocy. Please, someone close this before people start hurting themselves with their own idiocy. The Council has spoken.

Don't be calling for the deletion of a thread because it's politics don't agree with yours. I thought you could hold a better argument than that.

Kazuo Kiriyama

He's the man.

At 3/26/03 02:22 PM, BinLadenmustdie wrote: He's the man.

*vomit*

You should save that vomit for your anti-American...er....anti-war protests. How's that demonstrating thing going anyway? Slowing those bombs up a little bit are we?

hehe
i love these comics

Obviously doctored, but funny nonetheless.

Though I'm not Jewish, I found this amusing.

more for the collection

I hope you all realize that if 9/11 hadn't occured, this war would never have happened. It wouldn't have gotten backing from anyone, and I wonder too if it was on W's adgenda before 9/11. Other than this "War on Terrorism", there's no reason to attack Iraq. They've been dormant for all the years following the Gulf war, but now they're a threat apparently. Notice that not a single chemical warfare plant or anything of the sorts has been found stocked. Iraq has been fighting back well, but its been all conventional weapons. If anything, this war provokes terrorist attacks on America. I know a lot of you people thrive on GI JOE, spread Democracy, kill the commies, fight for freedom attitude, but this is an unwarrented premeditated strike.

When "W" tries to liberate the REALLY oppressed peoples in South America and Africa, places that have little economic gain for the US, then I'll believe that the intentions and reasoning are legit. But that's never going to happen, and even if he tried to make it happen, it would have no support from the American public. Because what happened in El Mozote? and what is the "School of the Americas"... they don't know. Saddam is a big name and has been made out to be the worst dictator currently, but I can think of several others that are equal or worse.

Do you think the "war on terrorism" stops at Iraq? Because there are 100s of terrorist groups.

Maybe Bush will be seen as the great leader you all think he is, but I doubt he'll be re-elected, and further more he will be downplayed in US history books as many failures have, bay of pigs, 1812, etc.

Thank you, VasIndustries.
My sentiments, exactly.

... And our leader speaks

At 3/26/03 03:48 PM, TheShrike wrote: ... And our leader speaks

Are you using that quote to call Bush a hypocrite? If so, look at the wording again:

"No political cause can justify the deliberate murder of citizens."

Yes, civilians die in war. That is a given. And I also see that you don't exactly agree with the reasons for war. But to accuse Bush of "deliberately murdering" civilians is just plain wrong. We go out of our way to avoid civilian casualties.

At 3/26/03 02:34 PM, BinLadenmustdie wrote: You should save that vomit for your anti-American ...er....anti-war protests.

I would prefer that American soldiers are not killed without a just reason, you would prefer that they are, whos the antiamerican there mother fucker?

At 3/26/03 07:50 PM, PitaPunk wrote: Fuck bush!! Bush sucks. Everyone knows it. No one wants to go to war except fags like the person who started this topic. Bush is crazy. I dont want to come back to this stupid "George Bush Rocks" topic anymore........................ fags.

Wow. What an outstanding argument you can hold. I really can't debate against THAT! It's no wonder you're not coming back to debate the issue of President Bush's quality of character amongst us "fags". You're just WAY too smart for all of us!

Kazuo Kiriyama

More super-fun bush stuff

I'm not going to get into the war in Iraq, because quite frankly, I don't feel like it. However, I do have some things to say concerning Bush's domestic policy...

Education
His idea for national testing is decent, but he doesn't give the states the money to enforce the provisions of his program. Result? Education still being poor and state governments being pissed at Bush on this issue

Environment
When Bush went into office, he undid a shitload of envirnmental acts. Moreover, he continues to allow SUV's to have crap fuel efficency under a loophole. Add to the fact that he pulled out of the Kyoto treaty, and we've found that Bush is a envirnmentally unfriendly President. Even his supporters admit that they are putting business interests above the environment.

Corporate Accountibility
Before Enron, Bush took the opinion of "trust Big Business. They regulate themselves" With this in mind, Bush, in the name of removing economic barriers, reduced several regulations on businesses in regard to accounting. Bush changed his public statements after Enron and Worldcom, when he realized that, shit, one can't always trust big business. His Corporate Accountibility act, fell well short of its intended goal, as the loopholes that plagues it have left the rate of scandels before the acts equal the rate after its passage.

Fiscal Responsibility
Bush, in a nutshell, wants/ed to cut taxes and increase spending. Um, anyone see a problem here? Two minus's do not make a plus. With the Clinton era budjet plans, the US managed to get a surplus, a surplus squandered by the Bush administration. The tax cuts did not "pay for themselves" even before 9-11, and the loss of the surplus preceeded that tradegy.

In conclusion, it is inaccurate to say "Bush Rox" because his domestic policy is not that good. It's 2:42 AM here, so I'm going to bed now. I hope stopping this debate from becomeing a flame war.

Here's one for the pro-war, anti-dissent (that means anti-anti-war, Nemmy) crowd.

At 3/27/03 02:38 AM, Disguy_youknow wrote: I'm not going to get into the war in Iraq, because quite frankly, I don't feel like it. However, I do have some things to say concerning Bush's domestic policy...

Education

Environment

Corporate Accountibility

Fiscal Responsibility

In conclusion, it is inaccurate to say "Bush Rox" because his domestic policy is not that good.

AMEN!

Thank you. Thank you for putting it all down for people to read. To think about. Because frankly, I'm tired of trying to explain all of it, too.

Every president has his plusses and minuses. I happen to feel that the minuses here are just...outstanding.