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Jim, House....

you each get a cookie!

At 3/27/03 11:51 PM, NJDeadzone wrote: it's really difficult to comprehend a sponateuous creation of a universe...at least for me

Actually, that is the leading scientific theory for the creation of the universe. It came into existence as a random vacuum fluctuation.

I think that it is in physics that we can see and know the true genius of God, the first scientist. The study of the reality, and the universe, which is God Himself, is, to me, as beautiful as any chapel or basilica.

Ohh oh! I want an oatmeal rasin!!!

At 3/28/03 04:27 PM, jimsween wrote: Ohh oh! I want an oatmeal rasin!!!

hmmm ah! here we go!
*tosses it over*

At 3/28/03 04:06 PM, jimsween wrote: I'm all for homosexuality but I wouldnt want them teaching my kids to be homosexual, thats forcing your beliefs on someone.

*LOL*

Sorry, but you're taking it a little far, and I think you know it.

Teaching your kids to be homosexual. I agree with that. Teching kids to have sex at ALL is awful. That's not what sex ed is. It's about reproduction and stuff like that.

I don't think we'll ever see a day where schools will teach the lessons brought to you by 'FDA'. But come on. There's a huge difference between saying, 'This is out there, and it's alright.' and saying, 'BOYS SHOULD LOVE OTHER BOYS!'

NOW! I'm done with that. ;) I'm not gonna let myself get into that un-related debate in a thread about something completely different.

What kind of cookie did I get??

At 3/28/03 04:27 PM, Commander-K25 wrote:

At 3/27/03 11:51 PM, NJDeadzone wrote: it's really difficult to comprehend a sponateuous creation of a universe...at least for me

I think that it is in physics that we can see and know the true genius of God, the first scientist. The study of the reality, and the universe, which is God Himself, is, to me, as beautiful as any chapel or basilica.

Nicely put, Commander. :) It's beautiful to me, too, even if I'm horrible at it. *lol*

At 3/28/03 05:07 PM, House_Of_Leaves wrote:

At 3/28/03 04:06 PM, jimsween wrote: I'm all for homosexuality but I wouldnt want them teaching my kids to be homosexual, thats forcing your beliefs on someone.

*LOL*

Sorry, but you're taking it a little far, and I think you know it.

Teaching your kids to be homosexual. I agree with that. Teching kids to have sex at ALL is awful. That's not what sex ed is. It's about reproduction and stuff like that.

"This year I am going to teach you how to have GREAT sex" my health teacher

I don't think we'll ever see a day where schools will teach the lessons brought to you by 'FDA'. But come on. There's a huge difference between saying, 'This is out there, and it's alright.' and saying, 'BOYS SHOULD LOVE OTHER BOYS!'

"do not rule out same sex relationships with peers as an option" my health teacher

The reason he gets to talk like that is because of a bill that was passed in Minnesota protecting homosexual couples, somehow they found a loophole.

At 3/28/03 05:07 PM, House_Of_Leaves wrote: What kind of cookie did I get??

What kind would you like?

When it all comes down to it, here's what I think:
Creationism should not be taught in schools. It's like setting aside a day to teach the kids about Jebus. Or Mo. Or Davie.
Creationism is, at its roots, a religious thing (again, God made us).

On the other hand, I'm not advocating that darwinism should be rammed down the throats of the kiddies. Creationism should be mentioned. It is the only other reasonable explanation.
I suggest that rather than teaching religous beliefs in school, studies in creationism should be capped at "... and that is the theory of evolution. Some people don't agree with that, and that line of theory is called creationism. Creationists believe God made us. Ok, Don't forget, pop quiz tomorrow."

That way, children will know of both, and should they need more information, they can ask mom and pop.
But I stronly disagree with it being taught in school. The main reason behind this is the separation of church and state.
And then there are teachers who would (rather-do) teach creationism in relation to their religion.
You wouldn't want your kid coming home with nonsense [take your pick... catholic/presbyterian/lutheran/baptist/jewish/etc.] ideas, would ya?

Going off-topic here....

I know where I stand on homosexuality.

I'm a fuckin hypocrite.

My religious belief is against it, but damn if I don't get hot watching lesbians go at it.

Personally, I don't consider homosexuality a lifestyle. I don't consider it a disease like some religious nuts like to call it. I consider it a preference. I don't bother anyone for preferring redheads over blondes. I won't bother any guy perfering another guy over a girl.

You also heard the debate where some say it's natural and others say it isn't. I consider both to be right. How so? There's more than one way to interpret "natural". Those who say it isn't are right based on the fact that the human body was not designed for two same sex beings to procreate via sexual activity. Not the way nature intended. Those who say it is are right based on the instinctive definition of "natural". You've heard the expression "He's a natural at this" or "Do whatever comes naturally". The attraction is instictive, the attraction came naturally.

1)Sorry for going off course. I know this was about another topic, but since this came into the picture, I felt like giving a thought -- 2)This is only my opinion. I'm ok with having disagreements. It's a touchy subject. Much like Creationism v Evolution.

In all honesty, this is a very tough debate, but you have two options: you can teach both theories (creationism and darwin's theory) or you can teach none at all. Frankly, I think we shouldn't teach either of these two because too many people can get offended by hearing one side or the other. Its best to leave this subject to the church and parents.

If anyone is interested in this subject, I highly recommend reading into the Scopes Trial which took place in the 1920's and had to do with this debate.

At 3/27/03 05:25 PM, swayside wrote: well, the both of you are wrong. do you think only christians believe creationism? do you think all creationists are christian? if you do, then you lack the basic knowledge to post here.

Hey, check up on your facts before you flame me. Genesis is believed by Jews, Christians, AND Muslims. Furthermore the institutes of "creation science" found in the US argue on behalf of Noah, Adam and Eve, etc, not pagan gods. So don't start getting into a "you're too stupid to post here" rant. I want debate, not name calling.

Swayside's arguement about evolution causing a lack of morals, etc. is faulty. Science is completely separate from morals. There is no "ethical code" involved with believing science. There are moral and immoral people that believe evolution, just as there is moral and immoral people who believe in creationism. As for your complaint about evolution teaching our childen that science says they come from monkey, is that a bad thing? Knowlege should not be excluded simply because it considers man to be an animal.

Both creation and evolution require some degree of faith. Either you are willing to accept that God created man. Or you believe that man evolved from monkeys. I haven't seen any proof one way or the other. If you happen to have any evidence please send it to me.

Man is turning back into monkeys, I didn't know man advanced beyond monkeys

Sarcastic response to a Weekly World News headline.