Boys or Girls Classrooms?

[NumaNuma6]

They have been recently (and in the past) talking more and more about seperate classes for boys and Girls so there are less distractions. It is proven that higher grades are more prevalent in single-sex classes. I just think that what you lose in grades you make up for in human relation skills especially with the opposite sex.
I think the sexes are equal in the classroom and should stay the way they are.
What are your opinions on this matter?

[MortifiedPenguins]

They already have them.

There called Boys Catholic Schools.

[SolInvictus]

At 10/25/06 07:08 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: They already have them.

There called Boys Catholic Schools.

and girl's Catholic schools, don't forget those. (hehe, and those poor nuns think they're helping stop sin)

[EnragedSephiroth]

I have socially-awkward family members and friends who went to girls only schools. A cousin of mine went to an all-girls school and now that she's in college she doesn't know how to deal with boys so she's very socially awkward (considering she was an athlete and not a nerd). Basically she just tosses herself to the arms of any willing guy. One of my coworkers went to an all boys school and he has trouble keeping any comments about women to himself even if a woman within audible distance. I guess he's not used to being around them so often and that kind of shit was acceptable where he was socially conditioned (if youc an even call it that). Thanks a lot socially-numbing schools.

[SolInvictus]

i went to an all boys high school and i'm all right...no?:S

[NumaNuma6]

im talking more about public but i guess thats still the kind of feedback im looking for

[FeargusMcDuff]

Nah the number of them has come down In recent years for sure, In Britian anyway.

[Begoner]

If people want to screw up their chance to become successful by flirting (or whatever) instead of taking notes, that's their prerogative. If such activity occurs on a such a large scale that many other students are negatively impacted, however, action needs to be taken (although nothing so extreme as segragating the classes by sex). But, really, this problem can be easily rectified by instructing teachers to be more tough with the enforcement of classroom rules. Nobody can force a student to pay attention in class -- that decision is solely up to that student.

[stafffighter]

Are gay students particularly at home in single sex enviroments? They seem to be left out of all of your arguments. Infact according to your arguments they might suffer grade wise but socially they would be much more active and accepted. Has anyone seen examples of that?

[Durin413]

I personally believe the idea has merit, mostly based on the difference in the male and female brains. If this segregation occured they would literally have to teach teh subjects etc differently, to achive maximum potential.

As for the social thing, school should not be your only source for social development. However, I also belive that enforcing discipline harshly, strong, and always would also help. Howver, all teachers and administrators would have to participate to make that work.

[Scobbanatur13]

NO WAY!!!! having boys and girls in the same class is cool. sorta. this is stupider than my thread. its called bush vs. kim jong il

[SolInvictus]

At 10/25/06 08:17 PM, stafffighter wrote: Are gay students particularly at home in single sex enviroments?

its even worst, one might think an all guy school is gay fest but its pretty homophobic.

[Camarohusky]

Many other people have hit on a good idea here. There is more to school than books and essays and tests. I would personally have to say that a VAST majority of what students learn comes from things other than the cirriculum. For example, how to follow rules when ordered, or how to act when you get hurt, and other such social rules.

Frnakly, as long as society is mixed, ALL public schools should be mixed. It's not like the workplace is segregated, nor is the mall, or the park or pretty much any public place for that matter. So if a student is heading toward an integrated society, why take away the opportunity to learn how to function in an integrated society?

[poxpower]

High School is so extremely useless that if people don't at LEAST learn minimal people skills, its a complete waste of time.

People use to teach LATIN for fuck's sake! LATIN! They make people read plays and do math at a level only 1% of people will ever need to. What the fuuuuuuuck? You can go through high school and never learn how to change a tired, a diaper, how to fix ANYTHING in the house, cook, clean, take care of your finances... but BY GOD, you'll have read SHAKESPEARE and ANN FRANK'S DIARY!!!!!!

*hum*
Yeah fuck that shit, keep kids together. How are we supposed to uphold the image of a fair and equal society in work and life when you teach kids that they shouldn't touch ??

[Jesus-made-me-do-it]

Well I think NumaNuma6 has a point becuase I was sitting behine this really hot babe. I mean my God than some crazy fucker for making me a man.....

....It was the teacher LOLOLOLOL

Haveing seperate sex classrooms is just a load of bollocks. Even having seperate sex schools is a load of crap. You cant deny the most basic of human nature. Its imprinted into our chromosomes.

[kidray76]

Maybe in elementary classrooms, but statistics past that probably wouldn't support anything since maturity sets in.

[Leonardo-Da-Finchy]

I say, go the other way, and stop segregating toilets. There's always a queue for the women's, because of their tendancy to go in groups, and the men's is usually relatively abandoned. Combine the two, and any overflow of women's needs can take up the space previously unused by the men. There's the efficiency side of it.

We have something that's half-way there at a local club. The sinks and hand dryers are shared, and the toilets themselves are separate. It works pretty well.

Segregation can only lead to ignorance. That's why I back the move to make faith schools allow 25% of places to be available for out-of-faith students here in the UK.

[AdamRice]

I enjoy having girls in my classes to flirt with. I don't learn that much in school anyway.

The only class I can actually remember everything I learned is chemistry and physics.

[BhaktaLali]

Yeah, there are usually fewer distractions in places where boys and girls are seperated, but from Middle school and higher, that's when the most education about social interaction happens...and also when distraction by the opposite sex is at a max.

I'd say that, in the end, mixed classrooms are better. If a child is distracted by the opposite sex and gets bad grades, repeating a grade, tutors, and extra study are all available.

But if you seperate kids while they're supposed to be learning proper social interaction, there's no going back to fix that kind of lack in adjustment.

[Me-Patch]

I think that sex is a huge distraction in school. I know it was for me. Not that Id'e support seperating boys and girls classrooms. Part of your education is the socialization skills you pick up from being stuck with a bunch of different kids, you start excluding certain groups of kids and you distort or inhibit a childs perceptions of that group. Instead of knowing about boys or girls from first hand experience these kids now rely on television and other garbage like that.

Kids need life experience, not abstinance.

[denster1991]

My opinion is that the seperation whould help in different areas not everwhere but for most could bring up the focus on work not attraction my school has been having major problems in the couples a showing affection as seen will affect there school work ,generaly people will always whant to change things in manner of trying to make better

[Dash-Underscore-Dash]

This would totally ruin my math class.

[dustsgirl]

This idea has its benefits and drawbacks.
I personally see a few more drawbacks in this situation because women won't know how to interact with men, and vice versa. But parents can choose where they want to send their kids - whether they want them in a regular school where everyone is welcomed in a classroom, or a less public school (private school, or religious school where it's gender based).

[riptyde]

I go to a single sex school in england. (called a grammar school) It's a load of crap, but after 4 years you kinda get used to it. I think some people in a higher year did a video documentary of sorts on it you can find it here
If your not into violence, please don't watch.

[riptyde]

At 10/26/06 10:15 AM, poxpower wrote: People use to teach LATIN for fuck's sake! LATIN! They make people read plays and do math at a level only 1% of people will ever need to.

They still taught us latin until year 9! (8th grade) However most people give it up. Latin is kinda important if you are planning on becoming a lawyer, doctor or vet. You probably right in saying that only a small percentage of people will ever need to use latin however in our class, around 10% have taken up latin (3 in a class of 30) Other than that, it is a really lame subject

[SirLebowski]

I think men with force their social skills on women regardless of how we seperate the sexes. So will chalk this one up to the 'why not?' factor.

[Zytogen]

99% of what you learn in school is never used in life. The more important thing about school is learning good people skills. Good people skills matter a lot more than knowledge. If they split up classrooms kids wouldn't develop good people skills and therefore be at a disadvantage later on in life.

[Kings-Cant-Fall]

Unconstitutional. You cannot seperate on the grounds of religion, ethnicity, or sex. Not to mention that segregation is unequal by nature.

[riptyde]

At 10/28/06 02:54 PM, TCStyle wrote: Unconstitutional. You cannot seperate on the grounds of religion, ethnicity, or sex. Not to mention that segregation is unequal by nature.

huh, tell that to my headmaster!
I also think that Zytogen is right in saying that a lot of school life is developing people skills. I leared all my people skills in primary education.
I'm not a particularly anti-social person, it's just that most of my cultural knowledge is male-orientated. Although, there are girls on my bus who all go to same-sex schools. I don't really think it is as much of a problem as everyone thinks it is.
Incidentaly, my schools page on wikipedia can be found here , for anyone bothered to look.

[Kings-Cant-Fall]

At 10/28/06 04:29 PM, riptyde wrote: Incidentaly, my schools page on wikipedia can be found here , for anyone bothered to look.

The U.K. doesn't follow the same regulations as the Untited States, so your personal experience is irrelevant.