When did we become scared?

[Commander-K25]

When did we become so scared of casualties? We're scared of the thought of hundreds of causalties, much less thousands. How did we get to this state?

Personally, I think it started after Vietnam.

[Slizor]

I would say it was with the ascendency of Isolationism in the 20s. People were soooo scared they didn't even want to go to war and we all know that bombing people is America's favorite hobby.

[Disguy-youknow]

I think it started after the fall of the Soviet Union. Once that happened, many Americans became arrogent and felt themselves to be untouchable. Each casualty is a direct assult on this mindset.

[NEMESiSZ]

I'm not scared of casualties.

What would you prefer if you were president, explaining civilian casualties from extensive bombing, or your own soldier casualties because you were afraid of the aforementioned?

[Ted-Easton]

I haven't thought so much in that sense.
After looking at the figures of previous wars, today's are humane.
The US conquered Afghanistan with maybe a couple dozen casualties.
That's nothing compared to WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea, etc.

[JudgeDredd]

At 3/23/03 06:34 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: I'm not scared of casualties.

What would you prefer if you were president, explaining civilian casualties from extensive bombing, or your own soldier casualties because you were afraid of the aforementioned?

NEMZ, "civilian casualties" defeats the purpose of why America is in Iraq - "removing weapons of mass destruction" and "liberating the Iraqi ppl" .. how can you possibly suggest that mass killing of civilians might be necessary to achieve such and objective???

[NEMESiSZ]

Kill 1 to save 10, makes sense to me.

Go ahead, say "UNLESS UR THAT 1, OMG I GOT U NOW, HAR HAR," it's not a predictable response at all.

[implodinggoat]

At 3/23/03 06:23 PM, Slizor wrote: I would say it was with the ascendency of Isolationism in the 20s. People were soooo scared they didn't even want to go to war and we all know that bombing people is America's favorite hobby.

Oh yes the isolationist movement was a wonderful thing. If only the U.S. had stayed isolationist we could all have a great time goose stepping up and down the square.

[JudgeDredd]

At 3/23/03 07:42 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Kill 1 to save 10, makes sense to me.

it's NOT about numbers, it's about objectives..

If America feels it has to pre-emptively kill innocent ppl to stop the killing of innocent ppl then it's a betrayal of human logic.

If America feels it has to hunt down global terrorists, despite causing obvious anti-american feeling that will only lead to further terrorism against America, then it's gonna defeat it's own purpose.

If America thought the force of sanctions would have brought about a stable capitalist regime, then it was a flawed methodology from the outset.

If America thinks that Weapons of Mass Destruction are only foreign ordnance, and not simply a box cutter on a commercial flight, then they've learnt nothing from 9-11.

If America thinks that the death of Saddam and a few of his radicals will lead to a stable peaceful government in the Middle East, then i'm quite sure they're in for a surprise.

[NEMESiSZ]

Thankfully, you're not smart enough to fill out the registration forms needed to run for office.

[JudgeDredd]

At 3/23/03 08:12 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Thankfully, you're not smart..

just settle to differing opinions, not 1 line personal attacts - history will tell, and i'm not involved in that process - kthnxbooya.

[implodinggoat]

At 3/23/03 08:26 PM, Judge_DREDD wrote:

At 3/23/03 08:12 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Thankfully, you're not smart..

just settle to differing opinions, not 1 line personal attacts - history will tell, and i'm not involved in that process - kthnxbooya.

Jesus....if you don't want people to think you are an idiot than stop typing like a little wanna be hacker bitch. You see what I just wrote? It is written in a language know as english perhaps you should try using it.

[JudgeDredd]

At 3/23/03 08:36 PM, implodinggoat wrote:

At 3/23/03 08:26 PM, Judge_DREDD wrote:

At 3/23/03 08:12 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Thankfully, you're not smart..

just settle to differing opinions, not 1 line personal attacts..

Jesus....if you don't want people to think you are an idiot than stop typing like a little wanna be hacker bitch.

Don't Tread On Me Mother Fucker!

[implodinggoat]

At 3/23/03 08:47 PM, Judge_DREDD wrote: Don't Tread On Me Mother Fucker!

Well at least you are using English. Now for your next lesson try typing a sentence of your own with it.

[Ted-Easton]

At 3/23/03 07:42 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Kill 1 to save 10, makes sense to me.

Go ahead, say "UNLESS UR THAT 1, OMG I GOT U NOW, HAR HAR," it's not a predictable response at all.

UNLESS UR THAT 1, OMG I GOT U NOW, HAR HAR

[House-Of-Leaves]

Why is it so hard to keep personal attacks OUT OF THIS? Christ Almighty.

I'm just wondering...because I can't remember who said what, but whoever attacked typing skills instead of ideas needs to readjust and try again.

If you disagree? Disagree. Don't call names and sink to childish levels.

After all, this war is about fighting for freedom. Perhaps not OURS, but freedom. Aren't we free to have differing opinions? Especially in America?

Just a thought. I enjoy this forum. I'd hate to see it filled with petty bullshit rather than intelligent debates.

[MarijuanaClock]

When technology progressed and people could see the horror of war in their own living rooms.

It's good that people are afraid of death though. War is a serious thing, and as such deserves serious thought.

[Timethian]

At 3/24/03 04:21 AM, MarijuanaClock wrote: When technology progressed and people could see the horror of war in their own living rooms.

It's good that people are afraid of death though. War is a serious thing, and as such deserves serious thought.

I would have to agree here. Although I personally think this war is necessary, the eventuality of the loss of life, any life, is nothing to simply set aside lightly.

I doubt it will be over with Sadam's ousting... but a step that we need will be taken.

[House-Of-Leaves]

If we weren't scared, we wouldn't be human.

Also, fear sells. some of it's propaganda. But I agree with MJC. It's war, and it's serious. It's alright to be scared.

[Der-Ubermensch]

At 3/23/03 08:12 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Thankfully, you're not smart enough to fill out the registration forms needed to run for office.

What makes me even more thankful is that psychological testing and background checks are necessary in order to do such.

[NEMESiSZ]

From the idiot with the radiation symbol in his profile...

[JMHX]

At 3/23/03 07:51 PM, implodinggoat wrote:

At 3/23/03 06:23 PM, Slizor wrote: I would say it was with the ascendency of Isolationism in the 20s. People were soooo scared they didn't even want to go to war and we all know that bombing people is America's favorite hobby.

Oh yes the isolationist movement was a wonderful thing. If only the U.S. had stayed isolationist we could all have a great time goose stepping up and down the square.

Hahahahaha! Oh, why did I laugh? I've been gone for too long. Goose stepping up and down the square.